As Abraxas is Hope's denizen, I think it's related to magic, knowledge and/or technology :U . And he looks like a basilisk, lol.

Aww, no dancing Snoop on that blingee?

>>65864
Seriously, Jake, who DOESN'T use at least three dancing Snoops in their blingees?

>UU: i am scared oUt of my wits to go to sleep now. i don't know what will come of me.
Okay, the fact that UU said "come of me" instead of "become of me" makes me think it wasn't a minor slip of the keyboard. I bet something is going to come out of her/them like how LE came out of Doc Scratch.

>>65860
Homestuck seems to work off a collective consciousness theory, so if that mind-Dirk came from Jake's subconscious (which often has a more accurate portrayal of other people than our own conscious self does), it may be as well close enough to being the real thing. Memories also have a way of hanging around the dream bubbles, like projections.

>>65863
I think Abraxas looks like Excalibur.
Idiot! My legend begins in the 15th centry!

>>65866
It'd be cool if mind Dirk stayed.

I'm thinking, perhaps any copy, effigy or iteration of Dirk becomes a separate being, that would be a really interesting power/quirk of being the Prince of Heart. Just like Dave's quest was about realizing his own worth and not just moping in the shadow of Bro/Davesprite/John/his future selves, Dirk would have to find all these splinters of his personality/soul/whatever and, as the Prince, either destroying them or working out how he can use them for destruction.

>>65862
well it makes me think of the giant worm that beta Jake had filling up his hallway. that one had a round head instead though.

>>65869
You mean the Typheus Minion?
All the Denizens (apart from Hephaestus) look pretty much the same, Abraxas is just the first one who doesn't have a human(oid) head.

Don't most of the denizens have an animal lower half, but hephestus doesnt? He's just a giant fire titan, and the others are all mosntery.

>>65871
Hemera and Nyx both seem to have humanoid bodies. They still have some colourful wavy thing in front of them, though. Cetus doesn't have a human upper half either, just a head, and I don't even know what's going on with Yaldabaoth.

I wonder how is Hussie going to reveal the denizens, it's getting kinda late in the story and there's a whole bunch of them to introduce properly.

>>65873
While I'm not much of a pessimist, I'll just say:
Don't get your hopes up, pal.

>>65873
There was a theory that they have something to do with ancestors/guardians, like people thinking John's denizen was some form of Grandpa Harley. If that was true, it'd make sense to not reveal them yet.

>>65874
this is hussie anon

he's probably had all the names of the denizens worked out for a long ass time, probably thinking that he will never introduce them all. he inevitably will because that's what happens when he thinks up extra information.

see: god tier titles, god tier uniforms, existence of hivebent

The denizens are pretty important in the fact that they're the most powerful beings that are vaguely on the player's side, compared to the horrorterrors and Lord English. Both the denizens and players are a product of the game. The reason that we haven't really gotten around to them is the fact that everything up to the EoA5 was the kids entering and escaping their doomed session, and learning how the game works.

Only now are we going to delve into the whole Lord English vs. Horrorterrors vs. Paradox Space ordeal. All our players are going to need some guidance as the plans of the Condense and Lord English unfurl, and we learn more about his true nature and such. That won't really happen though until everyone enters the B2 session, though.

>>65877
I could have sworn Hussie said something like that, that act 6 was going to introduce all the uber big players behind the game, and act 7 was to be the epilogue.

>>65877
Aren't the horrorterrors on players' side as well? I mean, the kids are doing all that bullshit to save them from dying or something.

looks like LPOS is back in the story
and by extension, eridan

>>65879
The Horrorterrors might stretch a tentacle a player's way if they believe it will help them in the long run, but they are ultimately opposed to Skaia and the creation of universes, for whatever reason.

Hussie has been writing them so vaguely, it's hard to tell whether they're trying to help the Kids and the Trolls, or if they are trying to stop them. I mean, sure, they sent Scratch / the Condesce / Feferi a city-sized monstrosity capable of wiping out all living trolls, but they also helped Feferi set up the whole dreambubble corpsedrama conspiracy meet-up and they are actually helping them all along by tampering with the Furthest Ring so the meteor can reach the alpha session. They corrupted Rose, but they also helped her and Davesprite reset their bad timeline, and it's arguable whether the whole grimdark phase even was that bad, since it was what allowed her and Dave to reach god tier, and Hussie still isn't telling us whether she still can use their magic or not.

I'm not sure what I wrote due to being tired and sorta rambling, but the horrorterrors' alignments are ambiguous and probably beyond human understanding or some shit.

The only concrete thing we know about the Horrorterrors is that something is killing them and they are crying for help.

>>65881
I always figured that the player species being wiped out was a requirement of a successful session.

>>65883
Yeah, that's obligatory. The home planet is always destroyed, but since the trolls had already spread across the galaxy Gl'bgolyb was necessary for the extermination to happen.

But since the Condesce had such might over her, she was able to wipe out large parts of the population if she felt like it. The looming threat of possible doom was the only thing keeping the lower blood castes in line, and Alternia would not have been anywhere near as shitty otherwise.

>>65882
>The only concrete thing we know about the Horrorterrors is that something is killing them and they are crying for help.
Do we? We know that Rose/Feferi said so (don't remember who), we haven't actually seen evidence for it even though we assumed Jack to be said threat. What stops the horrorterrors from lying to anyone if they want something done for them?

>>65881
I interpret the horrorterrors as a metaphor for the chaotic internet voices controlling the players' actions early on in the comic. They have millions of different agendas, so they are constantly infighting and contradicting each other whenever any of them are trying to get things done. If Rose needs to decide which direction to turn when navigating a maze, some will say "go left," some will say "go right," some will say "plow through the wall Kool-Aid Man style," and one of them will whisper "Dave grunted as he pushed the terrified cucumber into his ass."

It is meaningless to try and paint them collectively as good or evil or having any single motive in any way at all.

>>65887
Remember the Squiddles?
They are a subconscious manifestation of the Horrorterrors in the form of disgustingly cute cartoon squids. Humanity does not know of their existence and yet we're apparently able to realize that something is wrong.

I don't think they're lying about being slaughtered by whoever this Skipper Plumbthroat is supposed to represent coughenglishcough. If they really wanted to wreck the Kids' shit, there is no way they would be as helpful as they've been thus far.

get a load of this

http://www.google.com/patents?id=Y3V7AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>65893
wat

>>65894
he made a computer program 10000 years ago with his brother (i think), it's old news actually

the only new thing i have learned is that his middle name starts with f. what is it? f names are lame. frederick? frank? ferdinand? i think he looks like a ferdinand.

If someone makes a Liv memorial thread I will put it in the box

Just don't do it okay just don't

ive made a huge mistake choosing now of all times to get caught up on homestuck

>>65898
why?

>>65899

because that was uniquely bad

I think this is pretty much the saddest update in Homestuck. The untimely death of a truly loved, completely innocent character who did so much for everyone and didn't ask for anything in return, except to occasionally be put back in its box.

)':

Raagh, seeing the incredibly bone-chilling part of Flare/Cascade being overridden with this makes me MAD and ANGRY!

So I just turned my volume off and had it play in my head. nbd

>>65895
There is definitely no way he's not Andrew Ferdinand Hussie, except for the part where it's so unlikely.

It is the most fitting F name though.

well guess we know for sure now that lil' sebastian isn't an even more upgraded liv tyler.

that was odd to type out.

>>65904
I though Lil' Seb had already been confirmed to be the B2 Con Air bunny encased in a robotic exoskeleton?

Welp. Photo of Hussie and Radiation did it for me. Homestuck's culled the shark.

That was a pointless update.

It's gotten worse? Glad I got out earlier.
Now I only end up on mspa when I accidently click it instead of a or op

>>65906
Yeah man. Putting a silly photo into a silly blink-and-you'll-miss-it flash that has nothing whatsoever to do with the story? Fuck this webcomic. Seriously. Fuck it.

I always thought How Do I Live was, like, the nadir of Homestuck. I hated every second of it, and it left a really bad taste in mouth.

Just imagine how I feel about this. Especially when paired with some of the most awesomely epic moments in the whole damn comic.

>>65906
You're just now thinking this? No offense, but really?

I chuckled at one part, but overall that was a bad flash. What are you thinking, Hussie?

>>65911
Dude.
People have been going "Hussie jumped the shark, time to storm off in a huff" at about every tenth update since like two years ago, and they'll continue to do so up until the very last one.
And hey, I'm okay with that.
But if you're gonna do that, don't fucking come back all the time. Nobody wants to hear you whining about how you don't even read the comic this board is about any more. Just go and find something else to do.

>>65909
>>65911
Hahahahahahah

Now kiss

That flash just seems unnecessary to me. It's not that funny and doesn't it provide up with any new information.

I guess Hussie really wanted to use that song somewhere.

It is totally unreadable ever since the ectobiology update![i]

I only come here to complain about how I can't complain to enough people about how bad it is[i]!

>>65916
Well, that, and it's another one of those mini-recaps. Like the other "fast forward" flash in Act 6, or the Scratch exposition by Rose. I think he started using those because the large ones would be really impractical at this point.

Also, it confirmed that Liv did not in fact survive by any miraculous circumstances. Like Rose stuffing her into her indestructible God Tier robe really quickly or her getting stuck in LE's Cairo Overcoat or something.

Seriously, I can just ignore it. I have no idea why people bitch at an optional recap. All he did was a fucking recap.

>>65920

song was really bad

>>65921
Aerosmith - I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing

>>65925

the song used in the flash was objectively bad

>>65926
Aerosmith - I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing

>>65927
are you deaf and blind

>>65928
I'm not deaf. I'm blind though. I can hear your words.

>>65929
1 C4N T4ST3 Y0UR W0RDS

TH3Y T4ST3 L1K3 F34R

>>65914
how would you know, bro? We're all anonymous here

>>65930
Hey Terezi, where's your comeuppance already, bitch? Seriously, the other trolls are leaving you way behind.

>>65936
Well she did feel kinda bummed.

>>65934
Not everyone. And this isn't exactly the only place to discuss this comic.

>>65934
chainerman

>>65934
>>65940
Yo.
Though I no longer stop in just to complain anymore, and when I was complaining, it was simply part of the weaning process. Like when your body throws fits while kicking an addictive substance.
Now I just enjoy the artwork the fandom continues to churn out, and the happy memories I have of my favorite characters.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, though, whether positive or negative. This is an open forum after all.

>>65941
you're only supposed to appear after someone says your name three times

>>65943
and THIS is why I love this fandom.

>>65960
samefagging turns me off personally

>>65961
>>65943 is me but i'm not >>65960, i don't even know why they bothered to respond to me because it wasn't that funny

i just think chainerman is a whiner and my face squishes all tiny-like whenever i see him post

OK OK enough.
Who actually sang the terrible song? I never got round to figuring it out from his last contribution.
>>65920
And they're bitching because, I think, Andrew intends it and everything else in Homestuck to be wildly funny. And maybe he thought it was; but the joke sort of fell flat. And got dragged along the ground for a little while. Myself, I'm having trouble seeing how this joke is at all different from "How Do I Live", other than the obvious change of the song.

>>65963
radiation did

Well that was pretty darn neat, at least to someone who sucks at chess. Seems it took the Huss quite some time to set it up the way he wanted.

Probably contains all kinds of foreshadowing, too.

UU and uu have to sign on/off each time they want to chat to the other. More fuel to the "UU+uu share the same body" theory?

>>65966
I don't see how they could share the same body, considering it's been confirmed that they have different blood colors. Unless there's some REALLY weird stuff going on here. Which I guess is always a possibility.

I like how uu is straight up unpleasant. Vriska might be a bitch but at least she can talk normally once in a while, and Eridan might have been clingy and/or annoying but he has his moments. With uu you have none of this shit, he's grating from start to finish.

>>65967
Different blood colors doesn't mean a thing. Squids and the like change colors all the time, no?

uu said the disguised piece caps were well crafted, weightless and such. But they're "his" pieces. Why would their weightlessness be an issue to fooling UU if "she" wasn't also moving them around? They're both in the same body.

uu "eating" the dead pieces and hiding them, messing with them. Sounds like metaphor for horrorterrors manipulating dead players in the dream bubbles.

UU naming her pieces and giving them bloodcastes, etc. could link her as the LE-equivalent in this exchange. These two seem like the progenitors of S___ game and the shebang.

>>65967
Might just be their dreamselves.

Another thing is that UU could apparently not see what uu did to the chess pieces he took. Also makes more sense if they alternate control over the same body.

Or they're just the same person with two personalities.

>>65972
I'd say that those personalities are different enough to be called, well, people. Two of which seem to be in the same body.
Also dreamselves.

If they're just two dream selves then how can uu kill her twice?

>>65974
Well he already killed her dreamself. He just needs to kill their 'normal' body. His dreamself would have a little while after that to get to a questbed before dying, so he would be able to survive even after taking out their main body.

So what are the chances that Dave is going to die, leaving Davesprite the last Dave standing?

Why would God!Dave die before the possibly still doomed Davesprite?

>>65977
It was a theory over at HSG about the whole "The Knight is Dead" thing. Surplus Daves and so on, one of them has to go. Although the knight could also mean Karkat.

Also, when do you think the chess game is set, before contacting the alpha kids or during? Pre UU getting stabbed at least.

This was actually a really interesting update.

Not to get off topic but what are those blue alien things that Jake likes? I Know one is the Deva from The 5th Element, the others are from Avatar, but what's the one with the bigg tentacles on her head?

>>65980
Are you thinking of the Twi'lek from Star Wars?

>>65980
>>65981
It's a Twi'lek bro

>>65978
Out of all of the three knights in this story:

--One of them already died in the alpha time line and was resurrected
--One of them is still stated to be "doomed"
--And one of them might be still doomed or has an unknown future of his fate after the game ends

Out of the three, God-Dave seems the least likely to perma-die during this story.

>>65978
It'll be Karkat. He's going to reach godtier somehow, I just have a feeling about this one. This whole time, allusions to him have been subtly made through things like conversation regarding the ancestors, UU/uu's type color, and just the over fact that Karkat has yet to make his big character developing stand on the pedestal.

>>65986
But going god tier doesn't really go along with character development.

>>65987
Going god tier is all about character development. It is literally the reward the characters get for finding their proper role in the story and playing it.

>>65988
two things, here.

first, attaining god tier seems to be correlated with the resolution of a character's issues, but it's not a strict correlation. vriska... didn't undergo any significant change of character as part of becoming the luck fairy.

second, I daresay there's quite a bit of character development you can do without going god tier. karkat's chance to shine, if/when he receives it, might not be anything so blunt.

10 bucks he dies unceremoniously and is quickly forgotten about within the story.

>>65988
That's the theory, but really like half of the characters ends up falling ass backwards into it.

>>65988
That's the ideal, but it's really hard to play the game correctly when every session in this comic is off the railz.

For all six characters that we have seen go god-tier, they all just kind of happened, with the exception of John, maybe Aradia, none lend to any new character development.

>>65992
>For all six characters that we have seen go god-tier, they all just kind of happened, with the exception of John, maybe Aradia, none lend to any new character development.

Dave and Jade are easily the clearest cases

Dave came to grips with his own mortality (something Aradia said was of crucial importance for Time players) and went on a suicide mission to protect Rose. It was really obvious to everybody that he was having a Character Development Moment and next thing you know he gets tiger

Jade brought Jack under control (for a while) and talked to her denizen in order to finish making the frog. And Jadesprite finally stopped whining and used her Bec powers to help her friends. There are different theories about which of these was more important but I think both count.

>>65964

no it was bowman

>>65992
>>65994
While Rose's whole quest revolved around her NOT becoming the Seer of Light to ensure that she wouldn't be able to put the pieces together on her own, she ascended just seconds after she understood her mistakes and how badly she'd been fooled. Considering she went through the game completely convinced of her own autonomy, that was character development.

Why is red miles after Roxy too?

>>65997
Well, Red Miles hasn't exactly been shown to be very, uh, particular. It's probably not so much "after her" as it's "wrecking shit all over the place".

So who wants to bet this Red Miles isn't the Red Miles DD is sending after Dirk back on Derse, but a Red Miles Jack will use on B2 once he arrives?
I mean, it's preposterous to think all the rings can do such a ridiculously large scale attack, it's probably just Jack's RM that has that much power.

>>66001
I think this is just the Red Miles that Jack already used in Cascade. It's just wrecking the pre- and post-Scratch universe at the same time.

>>66002

Check >>65590. It looks like it's coming through a defense portal, not from the far reaches of space like it did in Cascade. Since Skaia has all that energy saved up for the the reckoning that will never happen, it probably redirected the Red Miles that ended up towards it somehow.

>>65996
I am going to guess that John ascended because he was starting to fill his role as the leader of his session.

>>66004
john ascended because vriska

>>66004
>>66005
If you interpret Breath as the prankster aspect and Heirs as heroes who solicit help from others, then the major turning points on John's quest (ectobiology, putting out the fire, going god tier) are all due to him being on the business end of very lethal pranks

>>66005
Pretty sure we aren't talking literally.

So update.

Why are there all these transportalizers to weird places in the medium? First the one from LOLAR to the Viel in B1 for ectobiology, and now this one from LOCAH to Derse in B2 for "gettin' into dangerous shit". Will it never end?

>>66011
they appear when it's convenient for them to appear. it won't ever be explained it's just a thing you have to accept as fact

>>66011

John's planet must've had a transportalizer between itself and Derse. If anything they're just a means for agents to get around quickly.

>>66011
>>66013
Exactly, agents probably planted them there to access player planets easily.

>>66013
Didn't AR use one of these to go to Derse?

>>66019
And the Parcel Mistress followed him there.

Does anybody else find it frustrating when characters put themselves into shitty situations because of their darn needless curiosity?

Damn it, Jane!

>>66021
I find it annoying and frustrating that Jane would give up to go lookfor her father instead pf trying to save Roxy. I mean, Ican understand why, but come on Jane,there's fire and shit and she is your friend. Sit your little tightass down and HELP Her.

Also, is this the first time we've seen a person on prospit/derse that wasn't their dreamself?

Glasses is quickly becoming one of the best characters in Homestuck.

Yeah, I'm pretty much on the same boat of getting upset at characters needlessly being retarded. "OH NO IT'LL BE FINE NO WAY I MIGHT GET MYSELF IN DANGER WHILE SOMEONE NEEDS MY FULL ATTENTION." Your dad punches down walls, he doesn't need help and OP rabbit can find him better than you, sit the fuck down.

>>66022
Mr. Egbert spent some time on Derse. Punched Jack and all.

I see no reason to get upset, mostly because I'm not worried about Roxy in the slightest.

>>66022
She's probably less worried because shades seems to have things under control and Roxy's due back anyway. Jane figures she can both help Roxy while at the same time doing *something* to help look for her father instead of sitting around doing nothing.

Jane, you are such an idiot.

>>66031
Jake, you are also such an idiot.

Seriously, can't these kids do anything on their own without messing up big time?

Fuck fuck what the fuck???

JANE
PRIORITIES
WHY DOES SHE NOT ORGANISE HER PRIORITIES

>>66027
Yeah, but I meant someone as in one of the kids. Dad doesn't count because he is dad

>>66032
Hey, where else would he be after the bit with the lotus timer thing. For all we know this could be part of Dirk's plan, sans the accidental Jane.

Focus Jane, focus!

JAKE JAKE JAKE

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN DERSE?

>>66037
Guess he found the same transportilizer that allowed Granny Jade to swipe that fourth wall ages ago.

>>66038
For all we know, transportalizers don't go inter-universe.

>>66039

They do, but they're called something different, are apparently incredibly rare, and require ridiculous amounts of energy to power. So, they don't.

>>66040
Someone should catalog all those transport devices. There's transportalizers, that thing Jade used to snapshot biomaterial, gates, lotus pads, window devices, and the machines for transportalizing stuff between universes. Missing anything?

>>66041
Let's see.

We have transportalizers, which have been shown to go between places within a universe or an incipisphere, but have not crossed over from on to the other.
We have Roxy's windows. They seem to go from one place in a universe to another, but cross through the Furthest Ring in the process.

We have Gates and Return Nodes, which go from one place within an Incipisphere to another.

We have defense portals, which go from an incipisphere into the universe it's being played in.
We have the SBURB victory door thing, which leads from an incipisphere into the universe contained in it.
We have the SBURB entry mechanism, which leads from a universe into the incipisphere of the game played in it.

We have appearifiers and sendificators. These are one-way only, but can cross between a universe and the incipisphere of the session that's being played in that universe.
We have whatever the thingie in WV's station is called. It can go from a universe to the incipisphere that universe is located in (as opposed to the incipisphere of a game being played in that universe). It also has a second setting, we don't know what that one does, but it seems likely that it would lead into the icipisphere of the universe's game.

We have the Transmaterializer, which can apparently go two-ways to any point in a universe or its scratched counterpart.

We have First Guardians' bodies, which can lead from anywhere to the Green Sun.

And finally we have brute-force travel through the Furthest Ring, which should be able to get you from any incipisphere to any other incipisphere. And the Green Sun.

Oh and there is the fourth wall, which can lead from anywhere to Hussie's place, and the fifth wall, which can lead from anywhere an in-universe narrator is to Hussie's place.

Myeah, I think that's all the transport devices I can think of.

When presented with a Mystery (missing dad) and Clues (punched open wall, strange teleporting pad), what red-blooded gumshoe worth their salt wouldn't barrel headfirst into danger?

>>66045
One who cared about not letting her best friend die.

>>66045
An intelligent one.

>>66046
Is she not supposed to care about letting her family die?

I mean, okay, we know the players are Main Characters and it is probably inevitable that her dad will die and Roxy will survive one way or another. But how does that translate to Jane figuring out that trying to save her dad is totally futile and she should just worry about her friend?

Speaking of friends she could save, how about Jake? What the fuck is he doing there? He has no extra lives, and no lifey powers. He's in even more distress than Roxy! What if ignoring AR was exactly what she needed to do to show up in time to rescue Jake?

guys GUYS it's not like she just left her computer behind you know

Jane cares for her dad just as much as John does.


not at all

>>66049
Time shenanigans.

God damn it Jane you incompetent pile of brainless fuck why are you so adamant on fucking EVERYTHING UP?

JAKE HASS THE WINDOW.

ALSO VOLCANO.

ALSO TWO TRANSPORTALIZERS CHECK EM'.

>>66053
Everyone is a fuck up in this story. Karkat fucked up by ignoring Sollux's order on not to activate that double reach-around virus, for example.

With Jane's logic she thought she could save both Roxy(why do people forget that brought her computer?) while searching for her Dad she was also worried for.

I wonder if dream!Dirk can exit through Jane's or even Jake's transportilizers or is there an unknown rule that he's not allowed to do that?

>>66053
Oh no is somebody sad about their Dirk/Jake ship being in danger? Because that's what is really important here!

There are actually lots of people upset over this update for this very reason :\

>>66055
>why do people forget that brought her computer?
Uh, we don't? The problem is that if she's running from death rays, she can't give full attention to Roxy who is also in danger. Besides Lil Seb is already on Derse to find her Dad and give the others backup. There's not much she can do here.
>I wonder if dream!Dirk can exit through Jane's or even Jake's transportilizers or is there an unknown rule that he's not allowed to do that?
I think he can use it, which may or may not be because of his Mind aspect. Either way, I don't see why it wouldn't allow him given the amount of ways normal playing can be broken.

>>66058

Yeah, Jane is such an idiot because that teleporter was clearly labeled "TRANSPORT TO DERSE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING DESTROYED BY RED MILES. DO NO ENTER"

So far she's just been on a giant, dead, empty planet with lots of open ground to cover. She probably thought that her Dad was just going through some more caverns or crypts.

But I guess everyone's gotta flip out that Jane doesn't know that it would lead to some purple city-planet, where an alternate self of Dirk would be, which pissed off a black-carapace pseudo-alien, which had access to a magic ring, which had the power to destroy said planet with stringy fire-lasers, just because the flippant auto-responder said "No, Jane. Do not follow the rabbit." Pretty stupid of her!

>>66059
THANK YOU

I don't see why everyone reading, who has such access to so much meta-narrative, is flipping out and calling Jane a fuck up for doing something not too crazy that a million people probably would have done in her place. Not to mention that her character doing makes about a million times more sense than even some random schlub doing it. I will not even bother writing out how many ways it makes sense for her to have done this, above post did it well enough, though there are even more reasons that can be thought of easily.

Rather than calling her an idiot, stop for a second and notice how you're making quite a similar mistake in raging at her for doing things that are quite reasonable from her emotional and logical state of mind.

>>66056
You made the mistake of looking at the #homestuck tag on tumblr too?

>>66056
And if Jake/Dirk ever happens, tumblr will do its KILL THE FAGS thing it did with Gamzee/Tavros and when Dirk became canon gay

>>66062
Wait what? I've never heard of this, especially on tumblr, explain.

>>66061
When will I learn to look at less tumblr. Oh wait but that's where all the nice fanarts are...

So I guess that's that explained.
Kind of surprised there's such a simple way of getting into an incipisphere.

If Jake can get into the game just like that, what need does he have for all the usual devices and entry item? He can access anyone else's devices for game needs.

>>66066
Well, in a normal session, entering the game like that would prevent you from prototyping anything, but that's kind of a non-issue here, isn't it.
You'd also be unable to build your house up and you wouldn't get any Gates, and at least the house building aspect has been kinda implied by Hussie to have a yet unknown endgame purpose.

Which reminds me, did Jane get any Gates? I seem to recall that John's gates formed when his kernel divided, and Jane didn't get that.

>>66065
Maybe there usually isn't such an easy way, but because their session is screwed over from the beggining, skaia doesn't "care" so much about how it's players get into the session. For all we know Jake might stay in the medium now and this is how he enters the game.

Basically, this session is meant to show how almost everything can go horribly wrong.

>>66066
From what we've seen both in A1 and A2, the Lands don't seem to be accessible to the players until its Hero has entered the correct way.

Poor Shades Dirk, his advice is sound but none of these idiots are willing to stay the fuck put.

>>66072
What sound advice?

Withholding information ("by using this transportalizer, you are gambling with your life and others'") is not a responsible model of leadership. That only works in the military. These guys aren't soldiers. If you want to keep them out of trouble, you have to tell them that trouble is happening.

I honestly hope we'll get to see the kids alchemize a ton of shit, that was always one of my favorite parts of homestuck. Or at least an interesting aspect of the game.

>>66073
We haven't seen the whole thing with Jake play out yet. But in Jane's case, he can't exactly be blamed since 1) he has no way to monitor her at the moment, 2) had no idea that the mysterious transportalizer would lead to Derse of all places and 3) Jane refused to listen to him anyway, despite repeated warnings that she could get in trouble.

>>66072

Shades Dirk is a robot, and all robots are inherently untrustworthy.

>>66074
I'm also hoping for this the creation of WRINKLEFUCKER is still one of my favoruite parts of the comic

>>66073
Trouble? More like telling them both to put their full attention on getting their friends safely in the game because they're obviously in danger.

everyone is going to be fine, but damn are Jane and Jake unreliable. Especially Jane so far at in regards to what makes her freak out.
"Roxy needs to not die, and I need to find my dad. Wow, everything is on fire and where am I??? BUT OH NO IT'S MY CRUSH."

>Oh yeah. Jane too!
/facepalm

>Hey Jane, don't do that. Roxy is in mortal danger and she might need your help any second now, so please just stay put.
>OOOOOOOOH MYSTERY. I BETTER GO EXPLORE, WHO KNOWS, I MIGHT FIND DAD :D
>OH NOES MY LIFE IS IN DANGER D:
>Told you.
>OMG ITS JAKE I BETTER STAND HERE LOOKING LIKE A TOOL WHILE THINKING ABOUT DRAMA BULLSHIT

>Hey Jake, don't do that. Dirk is in mortal danger and he might need your help any second now, so please just stay put.
>OOOOOOOOH ADVENTURE. I BETTER GO EXPLORE, WHO KNOWS, IT COULD BE FUN :D
>OH NOES MY LIFE IS IN DANGER D:
>Told you.
>OMG ITS THE WHITE RABBIT!!!!!!!!! AND HEY LOOK JANE TOO

It's not even funny how unlikable they just became.

Oh Jake! You stupid dense boy!

I predict Jane or Jake are now in the mortal perils. And I'm going to hope this isn't some scenario about Dirk making a choice who to save, or getting killed himself making sure they both vamoose.

Also, I can't. I can't with these updates right now. At least not with the pace of that drawn out frustration you get during horror movies where you yell at the stupid characters who keep investigating/exploring because they suddenly stole the idiot ball.
I'm not touching HS for a week so I can pretend I'm an archival reader D:

>I think this may be where my grandma used to go during some of her expeditions.

...they just explained how grandpa harley got into the session didn't they?

...I was gonna hold it over hussies head that he forgot it but then he just explains it anyway

>>66086
OH WOW

Well that was my single biggest mystery in Homestuck. It's depressing how much of a weight off my shoulders that is.

I hope Jake gets to his planet before he even enters the game.

>>66083
I still don't see was is so abnormal about Jane attempting to both save Roxy and find her Dad without a real sense of not knowing how dangerous the other side of the teleporter would be. She probably thought it was no more dangerous as her own planet.

As for Jake, you could argue he has less of an excuse to go into that transportilizer since he didn't have any guardian to worry about. Though he was raised on an island full of dangerous beasts and he probably though he could take what was coming....

...yeah, it probably would have been better if he stayed put.

All this would have been avoided if AR said "that red deadly stringy stuff is on the other side of the teleportilizer", though that probably would have made Jane more determined to jump in there in an attempt to save her father.

>>66088
This session is a lesson in fucking everything up, so naturally he won't ever officially "enter" the game at all.

>>66089
But AR didn't even know what was on the other end of Jane's transportalizer. Jake's was obvious, but Jane's was just plain ol' grey.

From reading the update, it looks like Jake went through first.

We know how Grandpa got to the Medium! How he saved John form that basilisk and got all those hunting trophies.

He went through the same gate in the frog temple as young Jake just did.

>>66090
He has to to complete the chain though.

No wait, he's supposed to get in last, right? So "entering" won't matter at all if he can manage to get to his planet. Do I have this right?

>>66095
The chain didn't even exist in the original human session, remember?

>>66096
Huh?

John <- Rose <- Dave <- Jade <- John

They didn't break the chain until after everyone had entered.

>>66097
Didn't Dave set up as server for Jade so she could enter because John was too busy?

>>66095
>So "entering" won't matter at all if he can manage to get to his planet.
How true this is depends entirely on how important it is to have your house on your planet, and whether or not you CAN get to your planet without entering the way the game provides. So right now a big "MAYBE", but I'll bet that it is important to do the normal entering sequence.

>>66096
>The chain didn't even exist in the original human session, remember?
Ah, but it did. John did connect with Jade and get her into the game. The odd connection with Dave being the server for Jade was done after the critical game entry was complete, and was just a workaround to deal with the terribly debugged SBURB mechanics after John's computer was lost.

One interesting thing to note though is that this chain will be normal as long as Roxy is the one to be the server for Jake.
Entry Order/Connections (clients on left): Jane -> Dirk -> Jake -> Roxy (Jane servers for Roxy)
Instead of a mobius double reacharound, it's more of a simultaneous reach ahead (Jake server for Dirk) and behind (Jane server for Roxy), skipping the third connection in the interest of getting the fourth one done quickly.
Consequences?

>>66086
>>66087
What it doesn't explain is his huge battleship. Although I guess he could have commissioned in wherever the Prospitians build theirs maybe?

>>66089
I honestly just can't get over the comparison of intelligence between John and Jake.
John is smart when he knows about something, or if he manages to get brought up to speed; just youthful ignorance and derpy attitude.
Jake is stone cold stupid and practically states ignorance is bliss with his actions. Plus he has yet to be much of a reliable authority on anything.

>>66101
It'll be interesting if the game doesn't recognize him until he enters the legit way. Like he ends up killing minions but can't collect grist.

>>66103
Now, now in another time and in another universe, Jake is more intelligent than his post-Scratch self.

Besides, both Jakes seemed to be proficient enough to construct robots so that's something.

Jake operates on trope logic.
It's literally MY NAME IS JAKE AND ITS TIME FOR ADVENTURE, EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR THE HERO IN AN ADVENTURE, WHY BOTHER WITH PLANS AND CAUTIOUSNESS.

Vol. 9 is out, it's pretty damn awesome, and "Pumpkin Party in Sea Hitler's Water Apocalypse" is the best song title.

>>66108
GameGrl manages to be both pretty good and extremely fucking annoying. I love it.

>>66121
The best song. In all of creation.

So it looks like scratched sessions are all within the same Bilious Slick. Alright.

AHAHAHAHAHA! uu's masterpiece is even better than Karkat's shipping diagram.

So, anyone care to draw over this in an attempt to interpret this amazingly shitty "gift"?

>>66128
I like that uu had to include "the bitches" and them "making out" in his gift.

>>66128
Looks kinda like Jake is giving Jigsaw a piggy-back ride while fondly stroking Dirk's hair???

Wow I actually feel pretty bad for uu now. He's probably got some serious mental disorder.

hmmm....methinks uu is blind or partially blind. Also uu inhabits the right and UU inhabits the left half of their/Calmasis' brain.

Are Jane and Roxy turning into a table on the lower-left?

>>66131
Bless you good sir/madam.

>>66131
>>66134

I tried my absolute best but I know this can't be right

this looks fucking creepy

I wonder if uu will be able to draw when/if he kills UU. Maybe that'll become a running joke and he'll either have to draw to access important stuff or he'll end up struggling with a pictionary and earning all kinds of shitty equipment.

>>66128
I half think this is just Hussie making the shittiest scribble ever, just to see if his fans will attempt to read into it.

Wait, uu said someone HIRED Jack to take out B2.
What does that mean? Is it a different Jack with another ring?
Is it Spades Slick given a ring by English? I mean, Slick and English are still in the same place, and it's unlikely English killed Hussie just to spare us his inserts in the story.
HUSSSSIIIIIIIIE

>>66146
> Is it a different Jack with another ring?
He also mentioned
>AND ALL ITS INTERNAL ITERATIONS.

A pair (or even cluster, who knows) of universes (here: the B universes) is contained within one universe frog. That's why he said "internal iterations" and it's why the Miles hit both the B1 and B2 universe.
As for the guy who "hired" Jack, well, remember that the circumstances around the destruction of A2 and B1 and the Scratching of the kids' session were facilitated by Doc Scratch and, by extension, Lord English.

uu probably said "hired" because that's the way he thinks. Didn't he hire his Jack to kill dream UU?

>>66146
Oh, and I don't think there are enough Scotty Dogs in the multiverse to make Spades Slick do Lord English's bidding.

>>66147
Well uu is a proven nutcase, and he did say he ''skimmed over'' the story, so yeah that was probably an assumption on his part.

>>66147
So essentially, every session bears two rings capable of destroying multiple universes, not just the universe it is hosted in. Sounds like pretty shitty odds to me.

>>66150
Well not really.
Jack can destroy both B1 and B2 because he's attacking it from the outside, not the inside. Normally, Jack would never be able to find BS because he lives in the progenitor session of the universe,therefore something no one would typically have access to.
Now, why Bec Noir's Red Miles can utterly decimate a universe is explained by either:
a)Jack's Red Miles are First Guardian enchanced
b)Since he's attacking the universe from the outside,where it's much smaller, the Red Miles can stretch enough to tear it a part with some wibbly wobbly spacey logic

>>66132
Yeah, this pretty much cemented it for me. He's a huge murderous dick, but he shows the same pride in his shitty drawing as a kid would, and while he does seem to, well hm, get off, he is
completely clueless as to what even bodily contact between people actually is.

>>66128
how did hussie even manage to do something this bad

does he have like, a two-year-old niece or something that he handed his tablet to and told her to copy a picture he drew in certain colours

it's literally incredible

>>66150
The thing is that these multiple universes are not just multiple universes, they are also, literally, a great big frog. Which is understandably far more fragile than a universe, and susceptible to attacks that can fuck up planetoids.
Now in an ideal SBURB game, this would probably not be an issue. The players are supposed to win the game before creating their Bilious Slick, so there shouldn't be anything willing and able to destroy him left in the session. Maybe destroying the rings, as the trolls did, is even the way it's supposed to go. There are still many things about the Ultimate Alchemy that we don't know.

>>66153

1. Use non dominant hand (I used my left.)
2. Use mouse on pad (Not sure about this step because one I get into the zone I can draw pretty well with a mouse.)

>>66155
Closed eyes and/or a touchpad may also have been involved.

>>66156
Hmm, you are right I think. A touchpad could explain this sheer suck.

BS is the universe right? So where is he? Is he like the Horrorterrors in that he exists in the Furthest Ring outside of time and space?

But I can understand that B1 & B2 take place in the same universe, just in different sub-pockets of reality? Or Time? They're both connected in the B1 created B2, but seperate timelines?

>>66158
We've seen this particular Bilious Slick. He floats inside the huge pond that the trolls' Skaia has turned into.
And yeah, B1 and B2 are both part of the same frog. Thinking of them as separate timelines works just as well as thinking of them as separate universes.

>>66158

He's in the troll's Incipisphere, probably where Skaia was. UU referred to "internal iterations", so B1 did create B2, yes. It looks like the Red Miles from Cascade made their way through B1, and now are going into B2, if UU is correct.

>>66158
Well, I'm not sure myself, but from what I've understood it works like this: When you scratch the game, the universe/BS creates a new timeline which splits from the previous one right at its creation, and then makes that universe the new alpha timeline. So instead of B1 being the real universe and the real timeline, B2 takes its place. It also recons a few things that happened in the session, such as changing the Skaian portals so that the meteors carrying the babies end up in the new universe and in the right order.

So yeah, they are basically different sub-pockets of reality, space and time.

And BSlick resides in a huge blue pond-thingy in the Trolls' session. Jack killed him after wiping out their Lands and Prospit and Derse, remember?

>>66161
No see, what happens is that BS DELETES the current main timeline/development of the universe and starts anew.
The only way to escape this process is to jump ship into another universe/the void between. There is no more B1, it is not a timeline that's still continuing or anything.

>>66162
>There is no more B1

Then tell me, who is the girl Jake is penpals with? Where did he send that bunny? Where did Roxy get Jaspers from, and where did she send him back to?

It is not possible to "delete" a Homestuck universe, for the very simple reason that "deleted" means "does not exist from now on". The universes in Homestuck are not in a continuum where "from now on" makes sense. A timestream or whatever you may want to call it exists within each universe, but the universes themselves are not in one.

>>66163
A better way to put it is that to anything in the B1 universe that timeline is now reached its end and in so longer running. As the B2 universe runs alongside it they can contact the people in B1 at any point in time before it ends.

>>66164
Exactly. It's possible to end a universe, i.e. cut off its internal timestream/line/whatever, but it's not possible to erase it.

The way I figured it, both universes existed at once, and the one that get's scratched "dies" making the other universe the "true" one. It's like the moment where Dave debates killing black suited Dave.

>>66167
really?

Oh Roxy, I have missed you <3

It is a null session, the enimies will never get any stronger and so the kids will never need to alchmize anything. You could probably take out an imp with a well placed slap.

>>66170
The war between Derse and Prospit is still a thing, though. And since Derse has agents such as Jack, CD and ring-wearing DD and is ruled by the superpowered Condesce with her army of Drones and her own personal First Guardian... I'd say they need Alchemy pretty damn much.

>>66171
I doubt alchemy could do jack shit for their odds unless there's plentiful sacred powerful relics involved. Along with a helping of glitch manipulation.

Is UU giving Roxy her juju? I thought that was intended for Jane.

Or maybe another shitty drawing only it won't be so shitty because UU made it this time.

>>66179
Maybe she has multiple Jujus?

Also:
>Roxy has that drawing Dirk made as her phone background
Ha.

>>66179
Perhaps she got uu's Juju?

Yeah, there is no alchemy in this game, remember with Jihn he'd already made some items before going into the medium. Jane didn't, and won't get the chance and neither will the other B2 kids. I mean, it's not like there is anyway to improve their weapons with what they got.

>>66182
>with Jihn he'd already made some items before going into the medium. Jane didn't
Neither did Dave. Or Rose. Or Jade.

I swear, reading Roxy's logs is EXACTLY like reading Bea's posts. They've got the same typing style, use similar terms, speak with the same "rhythm"... it's fuckin' eerie, man.

Plus she's saving all the carapaces which I'm PRETTY SURE that's exactly what Bea would do what with her love of the Exiles and Jack.

>>66189
Actually, she even kinda looks like Roxy in the couple of drawings of herself I found by clicking through back pages. HMMMM.

>>62684
>>58957

Is it just me or does the evidence pile just not stop getting taller?

http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/25156009290/reddit-or-not-here-we-dumb

Not too many new insights, not too many new jokes. But hey, he answered the rap question.

>>66192
> I think my dad actually caught up with it fully about two years ago, when the archive was more manageable. He’s the sort who gets really hyperbolic about how great the things I do are, so I got a pretty good review from him. But then I had to wonder how much he actually understood. He started going on about how he really liked Rose, and kind of tried to name the things he liked about her, and it became clear he was actually referring to Jade the whole time.

That's really adorable actually.

>>66194
I was going to post exactly this.

I liked this one too:

>Do you consider characters with traditional nicknames having those names as their full names? That is, is Dave’s name just “Dave”, or do you consider the characters actually being named David or Roxanne or Solluxander and so forth?

>No, their names are their names.

>Except Sollux, he really is Solluxander.

Update!

Oh no, not the Gamecube! Also the SNES/PSone, can't tell which one it is.

I wonder what is so necessary about those ancient 20th century game systems that Rose found it was crucial to stock Roxy's room with them. Is Roxy destined to be Game Grl?

>>66200
Well you know how theses kids are. The only think they do is play video games.

kinda canonical Trickster Roxy

Roxy continues to have the best female conversations. I can't wait to see her and dave talking when they eventually meet.

>>66217
And just what the fuck are you implying, anon

Roxy is sounding more and more like the drunken femDave she is.

>>66217
I think it's pretty cool how we keep seeing different aspects of Dave and Rose in Roxy and Dirk as time goes on, like we can see where each got different tendencies and how they were combined and not all entirely inherited in either Rose or Dave. Yay for retroactive character trait recombinations (the DNA of fictional characters)!

It's fun.

No no no no NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

WE DO NOT NEED TO GET INTO ANOTHER RACE IN HOMESTUCK GOD DAMN IT MOTHERFUCKER

OH MY GOD

I WAS EXPECTING THIS
BUT NOT LIKE, RIGHT NOW
I WAS THINKING MORE LIKE A TRANSFORMATION

OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

>master classes
>Muse
>Calliope was the muse of poetry in Greek Mythology

so kawaii

>>66229
Okay okay

So that's Lord English's race. That's as far as we have to go. Let's all just calm down

Well, even if there's a whole race of these cherubs it's very likely this special pair with their unique biological circumstances with their unique special player titles will end up becoming English. Probably through uu killing Callie, since I can't see her becoming an immortal demon of death and destruction. :(

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

(uu is totes LORD E as a youngster)

Roxy is now the most important character in the comic

>>66235
Oh yeah, and Callie's the Muse of Space. uu is [the most active class] of Time. Their session can only truly be played by one, and Callie thought that she could win and go on to "Use my abilities do something no one had ever done."

Rather than simply creating a universe, I'm guessing the winner got to choose their own reward. Callie would have become a force of good across PSpace had she succeeded, while uu became the ultimate time travelling destroyer we all fear and hate.

Turns out the fanartists saying it was a headband were right!

So LE as a child may have had a fetish for drawings of people hugging and shaking hands, and was a generally shitty brat of a kid? Ugh. No thanks.

so wait.. this means LE isnt a game construct at all but rather another player. Does this mean Doc Scratch lied about him? And how does this relate to the computer code which summons him into the game? So many new questions because of this >.<

So, why was Calliope so against telling Roxy uu's title? Is it because it's "Lord"? Saying LE's name would affect her, even though he took the name from Jake? I'm kind of confused here.

I also kind of doubt LE was uu, because why would he be Slick's nemesis if he likes that particular game construct?

i don't even know what the fuck

i actually read >>66236 and was like "wow, that's a weird theory, better go check the update and see what's what"

and then

yeah

i just

huh.

But... lil Cal + cueball = Doc Scratch -> LE

I guess we shouldn't take that exchange literally, and Scratch could merely be a formal gateway instead of actually becoming LE.

>>66246

Lil Cal is a juju and there can only ever be one juju. Which means the one that Dirk has in the Alpha and the one that Dave has in Beta are the same thing. Gamzee summoned the juju into Dave's dream possible from the Alpha timeline.. So the original juju probably comes from uu.

How can UU and uu already be assigned their classes and aspects when they, supposedly, have yet to start the game?

I bet she was lying about the lime blood too, because limebloods were apparently "plentiful", despite there not being many of her actual race to begin with.

Perhaps her troll identity was a limeblood?

>>66248
"The page is dead. Our hope is lost."
Classes are assigned before Entry, probably at the same time the contents of the incipisphere are initialized. If such a thing is even a thing.

>>66243
>Is it because it's "Lord"?

Lord, you say? A Lord of Time? Perhaps even a Time Lord, if you would?

>>66248
remember, the caduceus (UU's symbol) is the symbol of Mercury, protector of merchants and liars

>>66248
>>66249
Oh wait, I forgot about: http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006875

>>66250
Yeah but how would players know that

Hey look at this!

Uh, guys...
What the unholy fuck am I looking at?

>>66254
> Yeah but how would players know that
She obviously knows a shitton of stuff about the game from some unrevealed source. I mean she's been talking about other peoples' classes too.

>>66256
the death of a fuckload of tumblrs, fan art and, sadly, delicious porn of bendy-horned troll babes from the future.

Love how huss is trying to keep the reveal secret with the costumed version alternative.

A cherub? As in, the kind of angel?

Hmm. Remember back when Eridan was talking about his time on Lowaa? He mentioned the angels prophesying the lord of all angels or something like that, some really evil destructive force. Looks like we know what that was referring to now.

HAHAHAHAHAHA IM FUCKING HORRIFIED BUT YET I CAN'T STOP LATHING!

>>66260
Yeah there have been a couple angel/LE references in Homestuck so far.
Like this one.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005751
Changes made by Hussie:
-Weird snake dudes made more sinister
-Changed lions (griffins?) to crocodiles (->time)
-greatly emphasized angel wings

SO IS uu LORD ENGLISH OR WHAT
THAT WOULD BE LAME
I HOPE LORD ENGLISH IS JUST LIKE, THE BADDEST MOTHERFUCKER OF ALL CHERUBS
THAT WOULD BE LESS LAME

>>66261
But where has all the grist gone?

Wow, Hussie managed to pull a LORD ENGLISH IS ACTUALLY X after he already introduced him.
bravo

In my distress I called upon the Lord, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.

Psalm 18:6-15

guys
Calliope is space
uu is time
Together, in one body, they master both space and time. Now, imagine if they would go God Tier.
Bam, lord motherfucking English, born out of a technicallity.
Also something else that foreshadowed this:Gamzee being the prophet of English's religion, and having a two messiahs within him, one calm and one angry.

>>66269
Pretty sure Calliope shot down the "one shared body" theory, since cherubs don't see other cherubs until it's mating time.

Unless they are like angler fish, where the male attaches to the female and becomes a small genetic material dispensing parasite?

>>66271
Pretty sure we're not reading the same comic.
And that you can't use logic for shit. What does meeting OTHER cherub have to do with sharing a body? UU/uu are obviously the product of multiple personality, and are just one entity. With twice the class power.

>>66272
How do you intend to confront and mate with another of your species if you're in the same body, and after you killed their dream self, the apparently only way to successfully mate unless you are actually two separate individuals?

>>66271
Or they don't see each other because there is nothing to see.
Because they're in the same body.

Besides, the whole thing about saying her name to put her brother to sleep and wake her up?
Yeah.

>>66275
Are you honestly fucking stupid?
Who's talking about ''mating'". uu wants to stab the shit out of UU, but he can't since they're in the same body. Their plan was probably some shit like ''die on a quest bed and get both of us reborn in different god tier bodies", but since uu murdered UU's dreamself, that ain't possible anymore. Also, if you say uu's name to Calliope he ''wakes up'' which pretty much translates to "takes over the body''.

>uu is obsessed with playing games
>and also the bitches
>his blood is red
>Lord English styles himself after pool(a game)
>his blood is also red
>he surrounds himself with ''da bitches''(Handmaiden and Condescence) as his servants

Calliope is Muse of Space
uu is obviously LORD of Time.
You wanna make a Doctor Who reference dear post reader?
Doc Scratch

Heh, I had a feeling about this after uu's last "chat" with Dirk where he revealed more of his odious nature and fascination with violence and death. I didn't say anything though because I still thought it was far too implausible Plus I think everyone has had a X is Lord English! theory at some point.

I never noticed before but that design is very ...frog-like

>>66284
Yeah, I noticed that too.
And combined with UU's mention of how cherubs never had a home planet, I think their origins are going to be pretty interesting.

>>66285
inb4 Cherubs are like, evil Billious Slicks.

>>66285
>>66286
In before the combined session winds up creating the entire cherub species....

I kind of think cherubs are just what UU is. LE will be a higher ranking angel name which would be Seraph if AH is even using angelology. Unless he's actually referencing those little naked angel children you see all the time. That would be kind of weird

>We're never going to see a limeblood troll
That kind of disappoints me actually. Any chance still for the other prescratch ones to show would be nice.

But yeah, I'm having a hard time figuring out how this can happen, more specifically involving the Scratch was English deal. And where the hell is all this Jake English is related to LE stuff going?

>uu: YOuR JuJu.
>uu: REMEMBER I TOLD YOu TO BRING IT TO THE ROOF.
>TT: Cal? Yeah, I remember.
>uu: SHHHHHHHHHHH. DON'T SAY ITS "NAME" YOu IDIOT.
>uu: NOW TAKE OuT THE JuJu.

Lil' Cal comes from Little Calliope, and uu was so scared of Dirk saying it because that would wake UU up, delaying his plans.

So, how's that whole "DON'T POST THIS ON TUMBLR" thing going?

>>66294
Surprisingly well actually. Most new fanart and such is behind 'read more's.

So uu's juju is either John's bunny or the imp doll in John's room. Neither have official names as far as I recall. Unless it's... Lil Seb?

>>66291
>But yeah, I'm having a hard time figuring out how this can happen, more specifically involving the Scratch was English deal.
The thing is, Scratch was not literally English. He was the portal through which LE was able to get into that universe (and many others). We've pretty much always known this.

>And where the hell is all this Jake English is related to LE stuff going?
It's still possible that LE gets his name from Jake. Or... something more.

First, a reaction.
OOOOH MAAAAH GAAAWWWD!
Now that that's over with, looking at all the THEORIES, I've gotta say I originally considered UU might have been a third species when her first pesterlog was revealed, but I will admit i was fooled by the troll costume like probably everyone else.

Also, more than 12 classes CONFIRMED in the FACE. I'm a little worried about these "master" classes though. I had kinda thought/hoped that each class would be formidable in their own way in the end game (God Tiers), but "master class" makes it sound like there are definite ranks to the classes, meaning that some can be much more "OP" than others. HMMM.

Also, CHERUBS. How does their session relate to the human/troll mess? Was their Bilious Slick the Troll's universe (Universe A?). Are they from the universe that the Kids/Teens will hopefully make? Or are they from a completely unrelated universe/session? If so, why pick Humans/Trolls to bugger out of all of paradox space?

Ohh, I just had a THEORY, but I'll put it in the ideas and theories thread.

>>66291
>And where the hell is all this Jake English is related to LE stuff going?
It's going nowhere, already been explained. Jade found out the Batter Witch was working for Lord English, decided to take that name and theme her products after LE to stick it to her. The end.

>>66299
>It's going nowhere, already been explained. Jade found out the Batter Witch was working for Lord English, decided to take that name and theme her products after LE to stick it to her. The end.
People said the same thing about Lil' Cal after the ectobiology update. Don't ever count on it being so simple.

I wonder if the Felt were adult Cherubs. That was my thought the moment I saw the green hand.
Alternately, for Cherubs "bursting out of someone else's body full formed" is just their normal reproductive process, and Lord English is just a big, powerful Cherub.

>>66299
>I'm a little worried about these "master" classes though. I had kinda thought/hoped that each class would be formidable in their own wa
Well, the word "Master" makes it sound like that, yeah. But from her actual description, I'm just getting the impression that they're simply the classes on the very ends of the active/passive spectrum.
Which (THEORY TIEM) might not normally make them overpowered, but if you somehow managed to combine the benefits of both classes...

I don't know what's the issue people are having with the possibility of uu being English. Kids aren't often super cool/badass, a lot of time they end up being dorks and ridiculous even if they're complete assholes. The brutality develops over time. Kinda like young Ocelot.

>>66313
And it would be perfectly consistent with the general tone of Homestuck if the big scurry ridiculous skull demon was a secret dingus. I think Snowman and maybe Droog are the only purely dignified antagonists in the story.

>>66313
young ocelot actually killed people and was interested in spy intrigue

uu nearly disregards the game to focus on his creepy death pact metagame with his sister

>>66291
"Limebloods" might not be a real thing. Calliope was basically roleplaying a Mary-Sue troll character the entire time. The special powers and tragic backstory with Calliope being the "last of her kind" could easily be all made up. The real limebloods don't have bright blood like Calliope did, they have the yellowy-green colour on the Grand Highblood's wall and probably aren't super special or extinct. Or, well, I guess they are extinct, because none of the troll characters are limebloods, but they weren't systematically exterminated or anything.

That clears up this discrepancy here >>65593 real nice. Our first big hint she was LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Also: Calliope is a Cherub. Instead of pestering/trolling people she cheers them. Ha.

OH SHIT I JUST REMEMBERED THAT
>LE guns down Hussie-Calmasis with a machinegun

>>66318
Eh. I don't think she was outright lying about them. She's an overenthusiastic fangirl, sure, but she's not deluded.
Plus, if you look at the exact wording, all she says is that she has green blood and that she'd be an outcast on Alternia for it.

GG: But your race has varied blood color?
UU: yes.
GG: Then what would yours be?
UU: i am a lime blood. UuU
UU: while he's got the bright cherry blood, jUst like yoU all do.
UU: not that this matters since we are alone here, bUt interestingly, in ancient troll cUltUre we woUld both be considered pariahs.

Nowhere does she say she's a limeblooded troll.

>>66320
Lies by omission are still lies.

Tangentially, lies of omission were Doc Scratch's modus operandi. Not sure if that's relevant or not but we all do know what Doc Scratch was hiding in his cueball head.

>>66320
Yeah, and the way she worded the parts about limebloods sounds in retrospect like someone roleplaying the part instead of fabricating their existence entirely. Didn't Hussie somewhat confirm that trolls with limeblood existed in one of his QAs?

So yeah... I'm going to need those TPS reports by Tuesday.

>>66313
For me it's mostly that Lord English doesn't really have much going on, he's just evil and powerful and that's it. Being lame as a kid doesn't help him much.

Also, I doubt it'd be that simple. Could be their guardian, for example.

>>66322
Yeah, I think he also said that is where Karkat would be if his blood wasn't mutated.

That was...SOME update, like a real fuckin' shocker. The only thing that could possibly top this is possibly the Denizen reveal. We haven't seen them at all in the flesh just as icons or silhouette statues in the case of Echidna.

Also I remember an way old theory way before LE's reveal that a few folks thought LE was a godtier time player who went corrupt after his game was over. ...Welp...

I can't wait for when it's time for Roxy to say UU's name, and she's all like

callipope
*calilpoe
**calipopple
ohs hit do u guys
remebmer popples

If uu was Lord English that would make LE into more of a joke than he already is. Which might indeed be Hussie's style, but come the fuck on.
>YOU THERE
>GIRL
>I WANT TO PLAY A GAME
>tumut
Or:
>HELLO PLAYERS
>I ASK OF YOU
>WHERE ARE THE BITCHES?
Wait, the last one would fit with LE's pimp persona.

I burst out in laughter whenever I remember fanart UU, with her pretty looking face and anime white hair.

wait, so are the felt members cherubs as well?

>>66356
Obviously not, they're green carapacians.
Their heads aren't skulls and they don't have anything on their cheeks.

>>66322
Hussie once confirmed that limebloods would fill the space between yellowbloods and greenbloods. The same position that Karkat was assigned.

>>66370
Man, we're never going to see a lime blooded troll unless Hussie pulls something with the prescratch trolls where one of them basically says, "oh yeah, we keep that one in a cage; crazy and all", or "s/he 's perma-dead."

>>66367
The Felt look different from the carpacians also, and it's not just their color. They are possibly a different race of beings altogether.

I guess next update will be a prelude to an "Enter" flash and the start of a new thread.

This made me wonder about something: We've seen that humans, trolls and cherubim were recruited to play the game, level up, complete the task and all that jazz. There are probably shitload of races that play Sburb. We've also seen that carapaces can influence the game from both the inside and the outside. Given that carapaces are a created race for the war they are supposed to be only an internal part of the game, but we've seen how lenient Sburb is with requirements.

Do you think there are sessions played by carapaces? I think it's possible, but it demands a whole set of crazy circumstances for it to happen, like carapaces being sent to an universe devoid of sapient life and bringing the needed tech with them. Or maybe being part of a chain mixed with other species. Either way I don't see why Skaia would "refuse" them.

At one point it was mentioned that the carapaces are meant to repopulate your dead world and eventually prepare it for another session. So presumably there have been at least some sessions played by, like, the distant descendants of exiles and such. It's just that both Earth and Alternia were destroyed with their universes, so that never had a chance to happen.
Of course, if I recall, Karkat said that. Or maybe Terezi. Either way, it might have simply been a mistaken assumption.