I'm not sure what's happening but you don't have to be Terezi to smell the fanfic coming.

For some reason this bitchiness isn't as entertaining as her other tricks and traps. It's more elaborate, but it's more just mean than insane and lethal like her other escapades. It's like she's out of tricks and has resorted to just kicking him while he's down, literally.

>>81079

how do you know she's not being sincere

>>81081
>To be honest, you hardly know a damn thing about Pupa Pan. But you do not care.

I just keep hoping it'll be like someone else mentioned earlier, the sparkle powder is actually a sleep aid and she's sending him to Prospit.

it was her plan all along

>>81082
it could just mean she's trying to appeal to Tavros's love of fairies but is ignorant of them herself.

>>81078
I can hear the keyboards feverishly clacking away.

>>81079
The fact that she'd set up something so elaborate just to be mean is itself entertaining to me. Not to mention that once again using his fantasies to torment and mock him would be pretty cruel.

However, it's kind of unclear just where this is going. It's Vriska, so it's hard to imagine her acting altruistically, but if she is actually doing something nice in her peculiar warped way, that would be so amazing.

>>81085
Also the whole "literally kicking him while he's down" thing. She is sincerely treating him like crap.

>>81087
i dunno vriska's pretty messed up could be her twisted way of showing her feelings but it's kind of hard to say. "trying to make him a better player" and all that stuff

could go either way at his point

He's fallen out of his chair, but he still isn't crying, Hussie. Please.

Aradia and Equius already had a hate-to-love scene.

Here are two of the most -dysfunctional- characters in the beginnings of what -could- be a similar scene.

There will only be pain and frustration.

I think this is all a set up to get Tavros' dream self to wake up (and FLY). For all we know Kanaya is MIA because she woke Vriska up in Prospit, and then moved on to Tavros, convincing Vriska to do it in an elaborate, symbolic, and silly (SEXY) way.

or maybe she is just going to powerfuck him to near-death to get him to wake up i dont know anymore

I like to imagine that all of this is just Vriska setting up some sort of bullshit to be extra mean. Remember how she said Pupa would teach her to fly? What if this whole thing was so a fairy would steal his awesome rocket chair?

Don't forget to post images.

>>81098

oh my god

so this is why kanaya is so red for her

and this is why for all the horrible things he's been put through, tavros is a lucky bastard

>>81099
Verily!

That art is adorable. Vriska as a cute, hellraising pixie just fits so perfectly.

vriska is mean and i still do not like her because i do not like mean people :[

To quote a famous American doctor and action hero, "WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY WORLD?"

>>81104
:o

>This update
I LOVE IT :3

Tavros needs to channel his inner Taurus and gore Vriska something fierce.

So, a guy made a fan-album of music for the trolls. It's... okay? You guys have probably already seen it, but I am posting it anyway.

http://tindeck.com/users/EidolonOrpheus

>>81108

I think that's basically what she's been going for this whole time :B

>>81109

yeah I bookmarked that guy because his music is amazing

I don't see how this is sexy.

>>81109

His music owns hard. I love Clockwork Apocalypse.

Also: Good OP Chainerman! :D

>>81109

Some of these are pretty obvious, but does anyone know who Eternal Laughter and Blight are supposed to be about?

I'm not sure about a lot of the ones just under Jungle Cat either.

>>81114

Some aren't trolls songs, but just other songs he's created.

>>81115

Yeah, it's obvious a lot of them aren't, but I wasn't sure if I was missing something. Grudgebearer isn't obvious either, but I know it's a Karkat theme.

>>81112
>I don't see how this is sexy.
he is in the same room as a girl!!! with no one else there!!!

>>81117
she is TOTALLY being a tease right now

>>81118
then why isnt she dressed as rufio

Her feet were totally on backwards before. Gave the toes some shape, better?

Also fixed the borked shadow on her sleeve. Should I add a background or no? I'm not terrible fond of the text bubble either, worth changing?

>>81120
Looks fine without a background, and maybe drop the outline from the text bubble

I forget if I posted this or not.

>>81122

Awwwww! gdi your line work is makes everything seem delicate and adorable.

>>81121

ugggghhhhh now seeing it not on photoshop's little checkerboard background that text bubble looks terrible. Imma nuke that whole thing and start again.

Hahaha, oh Vriska, you crazy bitch. I am finding this last slew of updates so amusing you don't even know. I'm starting to like having her in updates. I'd still put a bullet through her heart like putting down a rabid dog, but still.

Tavros' face. He is making the best faces.

>>81117
So?

The thing about Vriska is that she's so messed up in the head that I can't tell whether she's just being sadistic or actually thinks she's helping him.

>>81125

Okay I think what this Anon is saying here is that Tavros is laying helpless and dazed on the floor of a batshit insane bitch who's obsessed with him in some odd fashion, and is probably attracted to him judging from some of the monologue lines. And the buildup to this has included her insisting he wears a Pupa Pan outfit while she secretly dressed up in a Tinkerbell outfit in some weird and slightly creepy mobius double reacharound roleplay fantasy and lured him to her home saying he would find the greatest challenge of his life thus far but he could handle it.

>>81126

This is the best part.

>AG: I have picked apart their tiny little lizard 8rains and seen through all the smoke and mirrors of their riddles.
>AG: I have gotten to the truth they are guarding. The great 8ig mystery 8ehind this planet. And you know what it is, Tavros?
AT: nO,
>AG: It's 8ullshit!
>AG: Meaningless, 8oring, fanciful 8ullshit wrapped in flowery poems to keep you guessing.
Hussie's commentary on his own creative process and our relationship to the lore of Homestuck.

>AG: Well, it's a good start. You are 8ending the rules and getting stuff done.
>AG: Ok I will admit, I am fairly impressed with your progress so far. Even though you still pro8a8ly haven't even killed a single enemy!!!!!!!
AT: uMM,
>AG: No, don't 8other. I know you haven't.
>AG: 8ut may8e that's ok. May8e it's just your style, and your real strength is surrounding yourself with allies who are much stronger than you.
Vriska actually being NICE. Or as close to nice as she can be to anyone. She is all over this kid.

>AG: Tavros, I know no8ody 8elieves me a8out this, pro8a8ly not even a gulli8le dope like you.
>AG: 8ut I actually care a8out your advancement as a player.
>AG: Everything I have done has 8een to make you stronger!
This is probably true. She does WANT a strong adventuring partner, she's just romantically retarded.

>>81128
I fail to see of its eroitic and not just stupid.

>>81130

>>81130
Well that's okay then. Why are you arguing about it? :\

>>81130

Oh, well. I guess to each his own. Although I am little saddened to hear you just think it's stupid because this shit is hilarious to me.

She just called him a silly goose and a stupid sack of shit in the same page. This is incredibly silly.

>>81130
It's a femme fatale thing. She's the deadly vixen who's ensnared our hero.

obviously shes trying to make him hate her so they can be hatelovers

but he cannot hate, and she will go unfulfilled

which makes me happy because i do not like her >:[

hey hey guys

so i heard you like homestuck parodies of soviet era posters

(the original thing is here just for reference: http://www.communisme-bolchevisme.net/images/urss_soviet_poster_75.jpg)

(also i hope this is worth the all the time i spent on it)

>>81138
THE BEST FANART

>>81138

God dammit that's amazing and I'm not even on the propoganda train

>>81138
GOOD SOCKPUPPY
BEST FANART

>>81138

Hooooolllyyyyyy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitt

the little details make this so amazing! oh my gosh Nepeta riding on Tavros' shoulders! :3

Your shading is crazy amazing too!

>>81138

I would buy a print of this. Dem kids looks so badass.

Oh and I really love Nepeta getting a piggyback ride from Tavros dskfjasjfdf so cute :3

>>81150
Yeah it's on dA now in the Homestuck group. And there's another link to it in the fanart thread.

http://luzerna.deviantart.com/art/soviet-homestuck-174505630

>>81138
And this kind of thing is exactly why you were specially picked for the art team.
Jesus fuck, I would hang this on my wall.

>>81138
AHHH MOTHERLAND

Really nice stuff, Sockpuppy.
>>81152
this

It's funny and hot when girls abuse and rape boys! ^___^

>>81154
This but unironically

>>81149>>81152
Let us put our energies into getting posters of this made and sold. I think it's something we can all believe in!

>>81154
Yeah, there's a bit of a double standard there. When Equius revealed that he implanted a love chip everyone went nuts, but when Vriska tries to head in this direction people find it cool. But don't get all worked up because of it, it's just fiction that relies exactly on exploring the absurd side of something and making a dark caricature of it, that's Hussie's work in its entirety. Some stuff will be unfunny to some people, but he wouldn't cross a line in an obnoxious way just to be "controversial", that's not like him. If anything happens, it will serve as characterization, not as a retarded crass joke about rape lololol.

And since we're talking about Vriska:
Personally, I hate femme fatales, I consider them humongous bitches (bluh bluh). It's exciting to have a badass character, but the manipulative aspect is a huge turnoff. Not that Vriska is a femme fatale, she's way more of a narcissistic psycho than anything.

Nah, this is what attractive badass looks like in my book.

>>81154

If this goes in a "rape" direction I will be super uncomfortable but so far it's just Vriska being completely socially inept.
I also don't get why people were super outrageously upset over the Equius thing?!?! Maybe I am a dumb.

>>81159
Pretty much the only reason I support Vriska/Tavros is because femdom is my fetish

>>81160
People were mad because they were furiously shipping Sollux/Aradia

>>81160
People were upset over the Aradia/Equius thing because literally in the panel before it Aradia is fucking LIVID, just incredibly furious at Equius for putting that chip in her to make her love him

and then she kisses him.

I mean, what?

>>81163

Equius is a skeeze but the kiss was on her own terms, right? It's blackrom I guess?

Troll love sure is confusing!

>>81165
Ah, but that happened before the black/redrom was explained or hinted at.

>>81164

:D

>>81166

Ahhhh that would explain it! I'm over here looking at it with the knowledge I know now instead of how people saw it then. That would explain it!

>>81159

Yeah, I think that if you read this troll thing long enough you're going to find something that just doesn't sit well with you. I was actually way more bothered by the fact that Tavros ran over Tinkerbull than I am about either of the ridiculous socially inept "romances" going on now.

:O Andrew's mind got blown by sockpuppy's pic!

>>81169
My mind is blown that his mind is blown

this is a weird feeling!!

>>81167
aw shucks Bea, you are my only fan

>>81170

You're just both gonna be blowing each other's minds over and over again each time one of you blows a mind you will live your life in a state of MIND BLOWINGNESS
and that's awesome

>>81172

If I were a million times less mature, I would make a joke about this.

>>81172
okay that went to a kinda dirty place real fast.

>>81171

Then when you become famous I can say "I liked you before you were cool!"

>>81176
And then I can fake my own death like Tupac and keep releasing art!

>>81173

>>81174

bluh.gif

didn't even realize the awkward shit i was postan

>>81177

BEST PLAN

>>81138

It's just so beautiful.

Man, am I the only one that sees this not as Vriska
A.) trying to get all up on Tarvos' bone bulge, or
2.) trying to be mean?

I personally think with all the bits about walking that this is how Vriska express her guilt about crippling him. Not entirely different to the thing with Aradia and the robot.

Wait hang on I think I've found out at least a little about whats going on.

>AG: I have 8een designing a quest for you that should test your true limits.

This is some twisted introduction to some custom made quest just for Tavros. Vriska does have DMing experience after all.

The real reason people got mad about Aradia/Equius is because the glasses wearing nerdy guy with a broken brain got dump in favor of the athletic rich guy.

A million internet dwellers had spontaneous flashbacks to highschool and started to cry.

>>81164
I like where this is going.

>>81138
So. Fucking. Gorgeous.

>>81171
Can I be your fan? :3

>>81181
I think I said something to that effect last thread. Except, it's motivated by guilt, acting like romance and going to end in cruelty once Tavros acts in any way that displeases her.

>>81183
That's stupid. No one else could physically handle a relationship with a robot other than the guy with the body of a demigod. Not to mention he's the reason she even has a physical form in the first place.

>>81189
Just copy the other foot you already did, hell actually copy & paste it if you need to.

I hate posting without an image so here's a doodle inspired by Waltz with Bashir and unrelated to Homestuck.

>>81189
That is a good picture and watching the differences from the original sketch shows you learn and improve quickly. We look forward to more of your drawfaggotry.

  Also, this.

You know i went a relooked and just realized how short that dress is she is wearing.

>>81190

The foot in the back? I barely even touched that one...did I position it really weird?

...oh shit, you're right! I just tried to turn my foot to the side that way and feet don't work like that! I LIED I AM STILL GOING TO WORK ON THIS

>>81191

Thanks! I feel really bad for filling up the threads with my junk but the help from everyone here was incredible! Would it really bother people if I did that again for my next not hastily doodled piece of junk or it is too annoying?

>>81194
If you start to feel awkward about it, you could always make a homestuck thread in /draw/.

>>81189
Right foot is facing the wrong way, that's why it looks wierd. Toenails!

>>81183
I think Equius is possibly more fucked in the head than Sollux though, and at least some people actually like Sollux. They're both losers, in any case.

>>81195

>/draw/

>>81196

Are you sure? I just tried to lay in the position and I couldn't get my feet to face any way but with the pads facing toward my head (if that makes sense?!)

>>81196
Sollux is one of my favorites, and I really like Equius. He's...odd, but interesting.

>>81198

Like, am I still doing this ass backwards? This is how I'm trying to fix it atm

>>81194

I am bothered it is very annoying I hate it.

I hate you.

If I still went to #bluhbluh I would ask you to make me op so i can ban you.

draw forever

>>81196
I am almost certain human ankles can not do that and stay intact.

>>81200
I'd turn it so it was almost sideways. Big toe should be on the other side, too.

>>81199
I love them both (:

>>81200
I know less than nothing about drawing, but if you ask me it'd be better if there was an angle between the leg and the foot. It kind of looks like the toes are just attached to a continuation of the leg.

>>81200
Is there anyone else around? Get them to do that foot position and take a picture so you have a good idea of how the feet and shading look.

>>81200
LOOK BEA
LOOK AT THE FEETS

>>81201

Thank youuuu

>>81203
>>81204
>>81205

Oh! Oh! Wait I think I get now! More like this +some more angling on the other foot?

>>81109
It feels a bit too basic at times, but still, very good.
I like aquatic aristocracy.

>>81207
Yeah, I think that's it

>>81209
Nice pic! The color choices are very striking.
I just had the most blinding moment of clarity because of you guys. Thank you thank you thank you

>>81210
I can't take any credit for those, Ari Folman is a brilliant director is all.

>>81151
No joke, I just printed this out and blu-tacked it to the wall.

My printer started running out of black ink halfway through, but THE RED BANNER REMAINED STRONG. Obviously the workers' control of the means of ink production vastly outclassed pitiful capitalist monochrome.

>>81207
Arg, I can never get extremities right. I keep forgetting that hands are, like, half the size of your face (and I only remember that because my ex-wife pointed it out, which just adds to the embarrassment). These things are important. Maybe.

?!

>>81214
Yes yes, is good, is very good.

>>81214
Left toes are wat.
Forearms should taper down to wrists, and then widen out to palms.
Everything else is quite good.

Tavros is SO CONFUSED.

and then he faints
and learns to fly on prospit :3

UPDATE

oh my god

oh my god

OH MY GOD

My ship, validated.

>>81218

I will...another day

>>81224

AHHHH! No Tavros say no!

>>81227>>81226>>81225
OH

GOD

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

GODDAMMIT HUSSIE, I SUPPORTED ANOTHER SHIP FOR VRISKA, BUT NO, YOU MUST RUIN IT WITH THE MOST OBVIOUS THING

FUCK YOU, HUSSIE, I MAD

I hope it told me a lesson to never ship characters I like and get disappointed at the end.

do not reward her for crippling you and being mean tavros :[ she is not a nice person and does not deserve your hatelove or whatever the hell is happening here

I see it like this: Vriska wants Tavros as a matesprit/kismesis (or whatever), but Tavros is all WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON. I predict a strong punch in the gut from Tavros to Vriska or something. Either that, or a blatant cutaway to CC or CA.

>Vriska: Make Pupa have happy thoughts.

Dammit Hussie, stop making me have indecent thoughts about thirteen-year-old aliens

>>81231
hey man, it wouldn't be very tavros-like to hold a grudge.

oh my god this just keeps getting better

>>81227
Yesssss!
YESSSSS!
It's all coming together!

he's gotta reject her

come on, tavros, you are the personification of do not want right now

Despite the fact that I called this waaaaaaaay back in the Rufio conversation the fact that it actually happened makes me a feel a bit bad and unfulfilled.

Just goes to show that nothing good ever comes of shipping.

oh god I am so unhappy with this turn of events

please punch her Tavros PLEASE GOD PUNCH HER

HOLY TODDFUCK DO.NOT.WANT.

oh my god this is the best day ever

>>81230
Which pairing? Also it's canon that they're... kinda polyamorous, sounds from Karkat's log like it's not unusual for them to have multiple interests as long as each one is a different type of rrrrrromance.

Oh man it's like one really bizarre drug trip.

The best part is how many forum people are going SHOULD NOT WANT right now.

>>81235
It's always been clear Tavros doesn't like her, he's just too much of a wimp to stand up against her. He's like a ten year old and Vriska's a bully, which makes this sort of/really disturbing.

I am laughing so hard right now. People are flipping out and I'm just loving every second of it.

>>81245

I know that feeling
It's like it's surprising but I'm not feeling very surprised

>>81242
I supported KarkatXVriska, because of Nepeta's shipping wall D:

Oh well, then its obvious that Terezi is with Karkat.

Or Vriska is just a whore and flirts with every boy.

Blurgh, shipping sure is weird.

I would like for this to turn into some semi-long-term mindgame of Vriska's that ends with Tavros manning up and going "no, you know what, screw you."

>>81227
Haha, I was wondering if he was going to fix the wings. Sage for double post.

Here's some not xTavros Vriska art for the hes and shes mad.

Tawa, the person who draws manly powerlifter Tav, seems to be very pleased with this turn of events. I'm pretty stoked to see what kinda drawings come out of it.

Steady-on there, Pupa! :D
Grab her ass!

Poor Tavros. He probably is barely processing just what is going on. One can hardly blame him though. Vriska's some major wo-mon.

>>81138
This, this is awesome!

>>81171
I is also a fan of you!

>>81214
Your art makes me happy. :)

>>81248
I think Tavros is going to mega-friendzone her. He'll eventually pull away and be all "uM VRISKA? tHAT WAS NICE AND ALL, BUT I DON'T LIKE YOU LIKE THAT. wE CAN STILL HANG OUT THOUGH, IF YOU DON'T TRY TO KILL ME ANYMORE. }:) "

>>81247
I like it too, I'm gonna draw it no matter what this update's like.

It's too late to get all depressed about it anyway. I thought he shut my flagship down twice but he's actually left it alone. Maybe for you too??

>>81252
"uHHH, vRISKA, nO OFFENSE BUT, i DON'T REALLY LIKE YOU THAT WAY, oR IN ANY WAY AT ALL REALLY, cOULD YOU PLEASE STOP DOING THAT,"

Oh my God this shit is unbearably bad.
I don't care. This is all pandering shipping bullshit. That's all the trolls are. Why do a bunch of 12 year olds need to make out? They don't.
Move the fuck on. Where's the main cast? Jesus.
We did NOT need to waste two months on all of this. Oh my God why is this so bad Hussie why is this so bad you used to be so good stop it stop it stop it.
BLUH BLUH BLUH BLUH.

>>81255
Well hey man, thats, uhhh, just your opinion.

>>81252 >>81254
And then she does something horrible to him. :(

See my theory is, Andrew himself is a nasty red-candied blood fucker, and he his angry and confused as to why the world hates him. So he plans these story plots that turn viewers into haters so Andrew can take small pleasure by causing them pain. This also explains why nothing bad ever happens to Karkat

THEY ARE BLOOD BROTHERS

>>81138
holy shit, sockpuppy <3

I guess I could say something about the update but my mind is just full of fuck right now.

>>81257
all she wants is for him to get some balls and stand up for himself

if he rejects her she'd die of happiness

holy fuck that is weird

>my face when more people seem upset by this than the Aradia x Equius kiss

Now you know the paaaaiiiiiinnn...

>>81260
what if he just starts crying
that's kind of like rejection, but not the manly sort
then she will be unfulfilled in all ways

Oh god he's shaking

Nooo I just feel so bad for him

Say no, Tavros, just say no.

Not that 'no means no' works with Vriska

>>81260

Any relationship of any kind between these two is going to be incredibly weird and mostly hilarious. Probably why this is the only pairing I'm interested in in the whole HS cast despite the fact that I find one party the most loathsome villain I ever encountered.

>>81263
then she will sock him in the nuts.

She'd do it if he accepted it too, probably. She doesn't want the redrom (meaning Nepeta's version of Karkat/Vriska is still open anon you can rejoice).

is this her way of trying to be nice? then it will probably turn out even worse than if she is being malicious

Newfag mode engaged.

Kanaya is managing Vriska's game, right? Can she still see them?

>>81268
thats rad, i wanna see how people react

also why is the title "drive by camwhore"

>>81270
General speculation is that she's busy with something else at the moment.

>>81271

some forum injoke

>>81255
hey so

chill out man

>>81255
I think you're forgetting that this whole act serves two purposes.
-Tell us how games usually go down
-Troll the readers

>>81255
Thank god I love the troll arc. I hope it lasts forever.

>>81276
really the latter is always Andrew's objective
Intermission:
-Provide character development
-establish future plots
-troll the readers

every time someone says they hate the troll arc, a huge bitch gets her wings

>>81278
I could also see Andrew having a to-do list and at then end it says
-troll the readers

get groceries
-milk
-eggs
-bread
-bacon
-orange juice
SBURB/SGRUB mechanics exposition
clean room
make calls
troll the readers
go to that thing w/friends
dinner
nap
troll readers

It makes me a bit sad that there are people that don't realize that:
a. everything is important, especially what you think isn't
b. the fanbase it the joke, and it nearly always is

It makes me wonder if they haven't read Problem Sleuth or realized that Hussie is the grandmaster puppeteer and Homestuck is the strings he uses to make the fanbase dance for his amusement.

>>81268
omg what's the link

I've never actually heard the song "Bad Romance", but I feel certain that MSPA fanvids will be set to it.

>>81264
>>81249

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPoHgKcqag

Apropos of nothing, she must be pretty strong to be holding him up like that.

>>81286
she has a robo arm and its safe to assume his leg muscles have likely atrophied to nil

>>81286
I'm sure the robot arm helps.

next scene

http://fancysanta.com/tavthrust.swf

who knew luring someone you crippled to your house and being aggressively sexual towards them while they are confused and frightened could be so ~funny~

>>81290
it's not funny at all

what it is is hot as fuck

>>81289
>fancysanta.com
:I

Oh man, this is the BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER!
THANK YOU HUSSIE!

part of me acknowledges this is hilarious and contributes hugely to characterization, but the part of me that does not care about 13-year-old romances is le tired.

why did andrew suddenly cut loose on the romance for the trolls? it's like the people who are weirded out by kid-shipping are emboldened by gray skin and horns to push past the taboo and ship like crazy. it wearies me somehow that andrew seems affected by this as well, but passes it off as a significant segment of troll culture, whereas the earth kids act their own age (largely clueless about romance in the earth sense) and are caught up in their own external circumstances with little regard to internal relationships; because we already know a bunch about the game and external circumstances in this arc, those interpersonal relationships dominate the troll storyline. a little disproportionally, imo.

i guess what i am saying is i love the influx of art showing new and interesting character dynamics but i don't see us coming back to the very platonic earth kids feeling satisfied with those relationships.

>>81282

I think people really need to stop treating MSPA like a novel and stop taking things so seriously. Just because it's well thought out and written/told doesn't mean it's a commentary on the human condition- though Andrew certainly does like to make jokes about that when he feels like it. But that's the point, everything happens as he feels like and he incorporates things just because he likes them or wants to see a reaction. His tales started out more surreal with Bard Quest and the prison one and though to the reader, Homestuck may seem more grounded, it isn't really at its' heart. The characters are now much more complex and the dynamics between them are so much more engaging, but they're still stick figures doing ridiculous things for amusement and sheer "haha what the fuck is happening?"

A person's going to have a hard time enjoying MSPA if they treat it like any sort of normal comedy, tragedy, drama, etc because really it's more like playing a pen and paper game with a batshit insane DM. No, we're not going to spend a session exploring your PC's psyche and I know this doesn't make sense and in reality it'd actually be really disturbing but fuck it, it's awesome! Man, some of the comments I see, it's like hearing an adult scold some kids having fun with their action figures because they didn't formulate the conflicting interests of protagonist and antagonist in a way the audience can relate to. We're playing fast and loose here, folks.

tl;dr whoa man, just like... chill, alright?

>>81290
is this an ironic way of saying that it is creepy

because tavros has always been portrayed as so sweet and innocent and seeing him put in this situation feels kind of weird :|

  >>81284
I'd love to see one using this Lady Gaga and Behemoth mashup.

Next it will skip to some of the other trolls, and when we come back to this Kanaya will how found Vriska has chained Tavros to a wall, playing kissy face, and she will have the shocked face of all shocked faces.

>>81298
I dunno I think you can disagree with something an author does without "taking it too seriously". I've gotten that argument from two people now and it really surprises me.

Has Hussie posted anything in the forums lately? The search is a clusterfuck on my phone and I want to see what he's saying.

I had a search of his posts bookmarked in the old forum but it don't work no more. :C

>>81303

I'm pretty sure it'll cut to something else now before we see any coherent reaction from Tavros. 'Coz, you know, to do: troll the readers

>>81297
I'm actually looking forward to returning to returning to the kids because their relations are so much more, well, mundane. Trolls are a peculiar breed, and it's interesting looking at their apparently emotionally-charged people, but a return to the more relatable kids will be refreshing.

>>81298
The crazy DM analogy is a good one, and rather appropriate, since this started out as a faux-text adventure. It seems easy to forget that many things are happening on the fly, especially since the readers' input has become considerably more limited in affecting the story.

>>81227
I like this, I really like this.

>>81307
Oh man yeah, time to CUT AWAY TO SOMEONE ELSE.
But maybe we can meet new trolls?! I hope we see CA before CC.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Holy shit this is hilarious.

Also he probably can't even see shit, that glitter probably blinded him like mace.

>>81298
Also Askal you just spoke my feelings on the issue way more effectively than I could have.

>>81304

Disagreement with a person making an alteration to their own creation while you're just there for the ride? It may just be a reflection of my personality but I don't see any reason why the reader should stop and say, "hey that's wrong" unless they are putting importance on the alteration. And considering they have no entitlement to the direction of the creation, it seems taking it too seriously to me.

But I think this is a conflict of semantics. It sounds like you mean disagreement as in "that's not what I would have done" or "that doesn't seem quite right to me" while I mean disagreement in "this is stupid, why is this guy doing this?" or "ugh, he's ruining the story for me" in the context of my post which I stopped caring about halfway through bluh

>>81308

I agree. I find the trolls so fun because they're over the top but I do miss my kid bros and their much less dramatic, more to my speed interactions.

The DM analogy was used because I did actually consider what my reactions would be to a psychotic bitch forcing herself on a sweet guy who wanted nothing to do with her:
... in a novel I'm invested in (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS. [Authour], YOU BETTER HAVE A GODDAMN GOOD REASON FOR THIS)
... in a game session (HAHAHAHAHA DON'T STOP DUDE, KEEP THE SCENE GOIN)

>>81308
I just can't wait until things start HAPPENING again. IT seems like every time the trolls story hints at really interesting stuff with the characters, they just cut away to shipping. Then cut away from that for more shipping. Then cut from that for a little more shipping, then something interesting, which then cuts back halfway to shipping.

I don't know if I have an image that can accurately reflect my reaction to this update.

This will have to do for the time being.

Is it really shipping if it's the author doing it? Honestly, I don't think so. In my mind, shipping has a "what-if" quality, where people consider the emotional and romantic qualities of the characters divorced from the details of the plot. If the author construes the plot in such a way that two characters become romantically engaged, that's not shipping, that's the story the way it was intended.

To suggest that the author is engaging in shipping seems to me to be suggesting that the author is perverting their own work for the sake of the relationships, that there is some higher version of the story that the author is ignoring. I think that's silly.

Theory: the troll arc is meant to get people accustomed to weird shipping shit like the intermission was meant to get people accustomed to weird time shit and murder. You heard it here first.

Holy fuck you guys. Look at his face. Look at it. He's so fucking terrified ahahahaahhahahahahahahaha.

>>81317

On one hand that's a rational stance to take but on the other Andrew draws fanart, romart, and crackship romart for his own stuff, so who knows?

> AH: Be abruptly accosted by Vriska.

>>81317
Ship pandering then.

>>81317
Of course it's shipping! Romance obviously has no affect on characterization or emotional arcs, and those things are entirely dissevered from an essentially humorous plot whose primary purpose is the development of a character ensemble.

Maybe the trolls' version of the game is meant to ensure the survival of their species?

Man, the troll arc is starting to drag for me too and I also don't care about the relationships, but I liked the intermission, which was torture for some people apparently, so this too shall pass and I will patiently wait.

Also my fingers feel itchy when i don't draw now

Ok so it's becoming more apparent that Vriska really likes him but apparently watches troll porn in order to understand relationships. Kayana is going to have to some serious damage control to sort this out.

>>81321

Tavros confirmed for Gary Stu

>>81322
>>ship pandering

That would mean doing this for the gratification of readers, though. But he's just mashing his toys together in smoochy sounds cause it's funny to him; otherwise he'd actually be following the popular trends of shipping. Aradia/Equius and Tavros/Vriska are, as you can see, both pairings that garner a lot more of the feelings that are pretty much the opposite of gratification. This thread's just so happy about it because we're a chan :3

>>81329
Maybe it's just that the way he's messing around with the readers and forums this way seems immature.

Which just brings us back to the "he's just fucking around with funny pictures" thing you were talking about.

>>81330

Homestuck: a mature series for mature audiences

And now he goes somewhere for a week.

>>81319

this guy got the right idea. blah blah words words i can't stop looking at his face he is so fucking scared hahahaha

>>81330

Yeah, I can see why people would feel like that. Don't mind if they do either if they're cool about it but the way the posts I have in mind while responding just so... they mad.

>>81331

Yes.

>>81333

I know right! This is the first time since the other kiss that I've laughed out loud.

>>81333
>>81335

Look at his pupils
they're fucking wigging out
and he's all
he's doing jazz hands, he's so upset
jazz hands

THAT'S MY PURSE I DON'T KNOW YOU I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad right now

>>81336

I know it's kinda shallow way to read the comic ignoring a lot of the stuff in favor of the goofy faces but oh my god its too funny

>>81317
>To suggest that the author is engaging in shipping seems to me to be suggesting that the author is perverting their own work for the sake of the relationships, that there is some higher version of the story that the author is ignoring. I think that's silly.

Yeah, you're right. I think my main point in >>81297 is
>i don't see us coming back to the very platonic earth kids feeling satisfied with those relationships.

On that note, >>81318 might be the case I guess. it just feels apropos of nothing after so long with a sometimes overtly platonic overtone with the first four acts (up until the Mom and Dad shipping joke, which in retrospect seems to be Andrew loosening up a little in preparation for some ribbing in the future).

Up until now we've been caught up with the game and external plot shit, and we've been forced to read between the lines of kids' chatlogs to speculate and infer stuff about their relationships with one another. With the trolls, we already know about game mechanics and don't need to hear them have "hey look, we're learning things" conversations. What you have left to explore is relationships and a lot of characterization, which is, storytelling-wise, a good thing. But I feel like this is overshadowing the kids and making them ... I don't know, flatter. The trolls are much more intense, probably because their arc is condensed by necessity.

>>81298
ok I will chill. I like to think these characters are more developed than paper dolls or action figures, though. On rereads there is not a whole lot that supports this in-story and I am probably taking this way too seriously. tl;dr Andrew does shit because it's funny or he likes it, and I have to DEAL WITH IT

>>81327
>Also my fingers feel itchy when i don't draw now
Excellent.

>>81338
no this is a perfect way to read this comic

i always empathized with tavros a lot, even down to his twitchy not sure if want reaction to current events

but he and i are such pushovers, he'll probably just go along with whatever she does, even if she is a bad person

unless he faints from excitement first

Aradia/Equius and Vriska/Tavros are likely to be the only canon pairs (as far as main characters go). He's doing this partially because it's funny/to make people angry a la Tav-in-a-wheelchair ("haha you wanted canon ships right? well here you go ENJOY"), but it's also character development for both of them and it's another one of those contrasting callbacks. I'm not sure what his incentive was for Equius/Aradia in the first place, but he did this update because it's another blueblood/lowblood pair with conflicting personalities, only the outcome is opposite for both.

Aradia is a spitfire who lost her emotions, and one of Equius' motives is to give them back to her. Tavros is a pussy who can't feel what the trolls think of as half the emotional spectrum, and Vriska wants to make him feel it. The difference in how they go about it is that Equius' method is positive and actually works, while Vriska is destructive and is doomed to end in failure. Dominance is reversed as far as colour goes--Aradia(red)/Equius(blue) and Vriska(blue)/Tavros(red) though it's dominant women all the way, maybe AH has a thing for that, I dunno. Equius repressed it pretty deep, like he represses basically everything I think, Vriska was pretty open about it and blathers about how much she hates him if given the chance. And then, you know, redrom vs. blackrom, love vs. hate, but that's obvious. There are more ties but I'm not gonna bother typing them out because blah blah no one cares.

Half the fun of Homestuck is figuring out patterns in the story. Who cares about the pairing, the reason behind it is where it's at.

>>81327
These lines! They are good!

The length of the troll arc is a lot more manageable if you think of it not in terms of months spent but rather in terms of a summer vacation.

Homestuck, the main story, has been going for a little over a year. So, Andrew's taken a summer vacation from it and told this side-story where he can afford to play fast and loose and absolutely wacky because when the summer's over these characters go back to the supporting cast.

We'll have learned a few things and have had some laughs and smiles for their own sake (as not everything need build towards a main story purpose) but really this is our vacation from the main story, as well as the authour's.

Also, remember that a lot of serialized stories (including webcomics) flow a lot better read all at once rather than drip-fed a few updates a day. It's hard to clear your mind and start over but if you read how much we have of Hivebent or Homestuck so far it flows much better. No week-long hiatus, no days spent fretting about this or that tense situation. This makeout scene's taken like three days so it feels all-encompassing. Read it in the archives and it takes maybe five-minutes and feels like a brief diversion.

>>81344

>Aradia/Equius and Vriska/Tavros are likely to be the only canon pairs

Well at least you said that here instead of in the forums because if anybody says something like that in the forums we all know what would happen, right?

I had a feeling something like this would happen.

>>81264
It's just going to get worse from here. In a proper kismesis, "BOTH PARTIES HAVE TO HATE EACH OTHER EQUALLY, I MEAN LIKE TRUE HATE." In that case, the relationship may be an ugly one, but at least it's stable, with each side getting what they "want" out of it. But here we have Vriska on one side of the relationship, who actually holds that kind of hate, and Tavros on the other side, who is simply afraid. And while Tavros is strong enough to say "no" - the "apologize" incident proved it - he's may or may not be strong enough to actually *do* anything about it. Which leaves him in the situation of being at the mercy of someone who despises him in a romantic way. There may be a lot of ways this could go, but none of them will be good for Vriska's likability as a person (and the most obvious answers are probably the worst).

Also, as an aside to bring this up to the current topic instead of being a post from three hours ago: personally, I find the exploration of an alien culture's concept of attraction fascinating (and feel as though it will serve some vague, important purpose later), but I can absolutely understand why people would be superlatively tired of it by now. Whatever it's all supposed to mean, it's definitely not what a lot of us "signed up for".

>people dismissing homestuck's literary complexity
What's the matter? Too DEEP for you?

Oh, and I don't know why you guys want the troll arc to end so quickly. After we get to cA you'll want another 100 pages, I can feel it in my heart.

>>81347
That is why I am not going anywhere near the forums with that phrase.

Somebody did formspring him about GATA though and he's only pretended to break that up (:

-Troll readers with tedious side-story
-Troll readers with disturbing, manipulative couplings
-Troll readers with the simple knowledge that you're trolling them
-Risk losing your hold on the audience because they get bored and/or frustrated into apathy
-???
-...profit?

>>81344
>while Vriska is destructive and is doomed to end in failure
I keep thinking along those lines, too. It's established that Vriska often makes lousy choices, fails, and then blames it on bad luck. I think we can all agree that what she's doing is not well-researched. So whatever it is, it's probably going to backfire.

>>81339
>>I like to think these characters are more developed than paper dolls or action figures

They are, now, but I meant that's what it is at the crux of the matter and that's likely how Andrew is regarding them instead of really sympathetic realistic people. Anyway, just putting my views out here and I guess you can DEAL WITH IT but I've been typing this bullshit mostly to present this other way of seeing the adventure which seems to be much more enjoyable. I would much rather you, and every reader really, enjoy the story.

>>81344

Bro. Agreements and shit all up in here.

>>81345

TOO DEEP
AND YOU ARE COMING DOWN WITH ME, HAND IN UNLOVABLE HAND

>>81327
>Also my fingers feel itchy when i don't draw now
That's something good Bea.
You'll get used to it.

>>81289
oh shit, someone saved this bullshit I whipped up?

>>81352

Andrew doesn't give a shit. He's punted obnoxious dudes off the forums without banning them by typing up large posts about how they're dumb before.
He's doing this for fun,

>check to see if anyone responded to >>81268
>No one gives a shit about Tavros
>lmao

>>81344

thank you!

Look, guys, psychoanalyzing these characters has seriously diminishing returns! Look at you people, you're at the point of claiming the author doesn't know what's the REAL direction the story should take.

>>81360

homestuck will tear this family apart!

I come home, and you're at each other's throats!
GOD DAMMIT WOMAN I CAN'T STAND THIS HOUSEHOLD

honestly i think vriska is doing this facetiously

by the way for some reason i really like her pose when she wakes up

>>81359
fwiw I think that whole odyssey is pretty amusing. just didn't have anything to say other than "lol".

>>81346
>>81348

Agreeing like a motherfucker over here too. Especially that last part of got horns' post. I do like romance in stories more than I'd probably admit but I blegh at super mushy kissy couples. These fucked up pairings and aspects of attraction are immensely cool to me.

>>81359

Hahaha, they're probably as confused and unable to say anything as we are. There's really nothing to say on the matter.

>>81364>>81365

I'm waiting for someone to try and advise him, why won't anyone save Tavros?!!?

Also the person who I responded to who's dog died. ( :( ) is very nice and is the only one on that board who reads Homestuck!

>>81355
aw yeah

>>81363
I think she's doing it because she thinks it'll freak him out and make him push her off and reject her. And then she'll pat herself on the back because she Taught Him Something.

>>81355
The thing about taking it less seriously though is that it cuts both ways, and both your positive as well as negative responses are muted. The unpleasant parts are less bothersome, but the happy moments also become less potent.

I used to be way more emotionally invested, but after a few of the more unsavory updates I started to shut things out a bit. I miss feeling as pumped about the story as I used to.

>>81362

I'm sorry Mister Sollux, sir :(

Although the comic I'm posting probably detracts from the credulity of my apology Sollux you're my favorite troll don't be mad we're still friends right? ;A;

PS since I was too busy typing walls of text, I didn't have a chance to give you and Bea props for the art. Fucking props.

wait a sec
is beesmygod bea?

>>81371
Yes.

>>81371
Yeah, obviously.
Spleen posts here anonymously too.

>>81371
Did you know that WV is not an imp?

>>81370
I appreciate it, I had a lot of fun just drawing silly 80's tshirts on him to procrastinate the harder parts of that drawing.

>>81371
MY BRAIN
SHE IS-A BUTTFUCKED

nah jk just wondering

>you're at the point of claiming the author doesn't know what's the REAL direction the story should take.
But he doesn't! At least not until he gets stoned on Peeps and the dog quaaludes he orders from Pets.com.

It used to be we had somebody saying that every thread, but now that we go so fast it only happens every week or so.

>>81374
WHAT
I HAD THIS ELABORATE THEORY TOO
AUGHGHG MY WORLD IS ENDING

slowpoke.exe