Battle startups still look a little slow, but man is it pretty.

Any word on the story? Is it still "10 year old with only his/her mom goes on a journey to collect Pokemon, defeat 8 gyms in a fairly specific order, and somewhere after the 7th gym have a throw down with the leader of the Big Bad"?

It's been that way since RGBY and I'm sick and tired of it.

>>26487
You're just upset that Black, White, Black 2 and White 2 dialled it back down to saving the world from being ruled by an evil organization instead of saving all life on the planet/in the universe.

>>26488
If Plasma was actually out to do what they claimed they would, that would've been interesting. Unsurprisingly, they were another evil team that wasn't Team Rocket, so people complain.

Personally, I'd rather have an open world roguelike sorta deal. You can challenge the gyms in any order and they scale depending on how many badges you have, for starters. Once you clear the league, you can go off routes which were sanctioned for safety reasons. And you can accept daily challenges from trainers as the champ. Hell, they could do ANYTHING with this series and they don't because it prints money as it is.

>>26489
>roguelike
>and pokémon
Is that not just Mystery Dungeon?

And yeah that should have gone with the thing from the Adventure manga where they point out that releasing tame animals into the wild is a really bad idea and thats why Plasma most be stopped.

I'm always surprised to find out there are people who play Pokemon for the story.

I can already tell that the long pause between the battle starting and the bottom screen becoming functional is going to piss me off by the time I'm halfway through with the game.

I know that the ridiculous zooming in animation every time you entered a door last gen was just mind-boggingly long and frustrating. There is no reason for there to be blank screens where you cannot do anything when no action is taking place by now

>>26492
Face it, the days of quick start battles died with Red, Blue, and Green and they're not coming back.

>>26492
loadtimes.

>>26494
Given the fact that other DS games or 3DS games are much better at hiding or minimizing those load times, there's still no reason for it.

I mean take something like animal crossing. Yes there are still load times, but they're so minimal that it's not an issue.

>>26495
Hopefully there's still an option to turn off animations and that it improves the situation.

>>26491
It's not that I play Pokemon for the story, it's that changing the story might make me interested in Pokemon. We've had the same damn gameplay and story for the main Pokemon games since RGB. Hell, Yellow had more of a different story than the following Gens.

Every game can be boiled down to what I posted in >>26487: "Fatherless kid goes on adventure to collect Pokemon and 8 gym badges, and sometime after Gym 7 faces off against the leader of Team Badguys, then goes on to beat the Elite 4." It's not even tradition at this point, it's either stubbornness or lack of imagination.

Why do the bad guys have to be Team Whatever?
Why does the big showdown have to always be after Gym 7 but before the Elite 4? Why does there always have to be 8 Gyms?
We have 18 types now, and only 12 of those see themed Gym Bosses. Why do we have to do them in a certain order and always start from the same, sleepy hamlet?
I've always been a fan of >>26489's idea with the scaling, or each gym has "tiers" and you go back to fight a higher tier as your Pokemon become stronger (this is also how they would make a Pokemon MMO work.)
Why do the past games/regions get paltry lip service and one or two cameos, if anything? Prof. Oak seems to be the only thing really tying them together now, even Bill has been forgotten. Gold/Silver was awesome because once you complete the region, BOOM, you get access to last gen's region to see how it has changed and get those badges. I'm not saying each game should have to include every prior game's region (though that would be awsm, and great for a Wii U entry in the main franchise), but having just the prior with a few changes would be great in extended the life of the game beyond "collect more pokey manz".

The narrative of Pokemon is so dull and repetitive that even having the cliche twist of the Elite Champion revealing himself as your dad after you defeat him would blow my fucking mind.

And this is just the story. I can complain for hours about the gameplay, as well.

tl;dr: It's like we've been driving the same damn 1965 Chevrolet Impala for forever. Yes, it's still a nice car, but there are cars with far better gas mileage and safer interiors now. But instead of getting a new car, we just keep adding trinkets and racing stripes to the Impala, changing the type of tires now and then. Replacing the engine or the interior would do worlds of good to make it interesting again.

>>26499
But that not a problem when you have tons of other cars and vehicles.
Its the same with other samy nintendo game.

>>26500
>Its the same with other samy nintendo game.
At least they sometimes try to significantly change up the gameplay in those.
Except for the NSMB series. That's pretty much a constant.

What do we get in pokemon? One more person to team battles and a nonsense rotation mode. And really, we don't need that much. The game design is solid. It just wouldn't hurt to put more variation on how you actually progress through a story.

I don't hate them? I like the pre-gen 3 color schemes though. No more random clashing markings please.

So you can upload Pokemon to "the cloud" from a new 3DS app with an annual fee, but you an only transfer from XY and BW2 and you can't store "hacked" Pokemon.

>>26505
So not only would I have to buy B&W2 (and most likely beat it) in order to trade Pokemon over to XY, then pay money to store them on the internet where nothing bad could ever happen and I have access to them all the time totally; but I can't trade over my GTS Pokemon because Game Freak and Nintendo get ruffles in their panties that people "cheat" to get their 30000 DLC timed event exclusive Pokemon so I can complete my Pokedex?
No thanks.

Good hacks are indistinguishable from real pokemon. Stop being bad at hacking.

It's going to be 500 yen= $5 a year. I can't even image your financial situation if you can't save up $5 in a year. I recommend not buying X or Y. How do you even own a 3DS?

Also no shit you have to buy an older Pokemon game so you can transfer pokemon from it to new game. What, were you planning on materializing them out of the fucking aether or something? What? Why is this even a thing.

>>26504
I like Venusaur but Blastoise looks like it was drawn by some bootlegger and Charizard is just fanfiction-tier.

>>26507
I have Black and it was shit, so I don't want to buy BW2. It's for the DS and they've made shit crazy backwards compatible in the past so it's not unrealistic to think they could have made that game compatible or hell why not just trade between games like in all the other iterations?

I don't want to pay for something that's been in every other game for free. I don't give a shit about storing 3000 Pokemon. I can't imagine the kind of person that would need that. All I give a shit about is transferring my old ones.

I know you're mad that someone dislikes something you don't, but if you're going to get that bent out of shape about it, the internet isn't a good place for you.

>>26504
SO HYPE, MOST DANCE!
Boys Are Back In Town Thin Lizzy

>>26509

Bank and Transporter work for all gen 5 games. It's not for DS, it's for 3DS. Trade between gens hasn't existed since gen 2. There will be more a free trial for more than a month if for some reason you're so poor that you can't save up less than 2 pennies a day for it.

Have fun.

Holy shit I just realized that for 5 bucks I'll be able to endlessly start my games over and over without losing pokes or having to buy a second copy to use as a temp storage box. HELL YES.

Megastoise looks pretty great, Venasaur looks... pretty uninspired and un-mega and Charizard... looks like gen 5 and gen 1 fused. I'm not sure how I like it.

>>26509
That's what Bank is going to be for, though.
Bank will be how you transfer Pokemon forward from now on.

>>26511
Oh man I hope Heart Gold counts as a Gen 5 game because I traded in all my other DS Pokemon games so I could put it toword a 3DS...

Also I think I'm the only person who likes Mega Charizard, I will say his little arm nibs are a bit off though.

>>26519
Nope!
BnW only.
Hope you can find one cheap.

But I love the Bank even if its going to be a pain to put all my GBA dude into Pearl/SoulSilver then all of them into Black.
Good thing I can watch movie or something at the same time.

>>26520
... well it looks like I not only need to buy a copy of Black or White, but one of the DPP's... and then beat it.
Fuck my life.

>>26521
Wait, no; just a copy of Black or White (since B2W2 are more expensive)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Migrating_from_ruby_to_soul_silver._What_exactly_needs_to_be_done

This week on Pokemon Smash Masuda is going to show us the same Mega Mewtwo well all know and love
ポケモンスマッシュ！
Or is it??

>>26530
Well back when MegaTwo was first shown, they said it would be one of its forms, so I can't say I'm too shocked here. Just means that some pokemon will have more than one Megastone most likely.

>>26520
For some months now I've been working on a list to easily track which of my games have which Pokemon and which ones I am missing (I extended it to all post-GBA games in case others would like to use it). I have Emerald, FireRed, SoulSilver, and Pearl, so it's going to take some time once the list is actually complete.

Starter evolutions, spoilered for anyone who wants to be surprised.

Oh god Chespin why are you a balloon, I might get Froakie instead now

>>26533
Never mind, I take that back.

Chespin might still end up a knight since Fennekin looks like a mage and Froakie looks like a thief and those were the ideas /vp/ has been throwing around since the beginning. Knight Chespin is all I ever wanted.

More new Pokemon. Won't spoiler these, hope that's okay.
>dem dinosaurs

Fucking disgusting.

>>26533
>Ya blew it

>ow the edge

>>26535

Better than MegaMewtwo at least.

>>26533
>sultry bipedal fox with a skirt
No way this won't be the next big new flavor of the year for a certain "fandom".

>>26534
On second thought, the two on the bottom left are strong candidates. No idea what they're supposed to be though...

>>26535
OH SHIT FRIZA

>>26537
Because Garchomp needed more power.
I'm starting to wonder if that once touted fake list of megas is fake after all...

>>26534
Top right makes me think of a mean Agumon. So, yeah, we Digimon now.

>>26537
>No Gigain chainsaw chest
Missed opportunity

Paint a skull on its torso, change the blue to black and the red to silver, splash on a little blood and you have a good start for a fantasy death metal album cover

>Mewtwo has two Mega Evolutions! The latest one is called Mega Mewtwo X and is exclusive to Pokemon X. It is Psychic/Fighting, has Steadfast as its Ability, and its Mega Stone is called "Mewtwonite X." The original Mega Mewtwo is obviously called Mega Mewtwo Y, is exclusive to Pokemon Y, is Psychic-type, can learn Hypnosis, and its Mega Stone is called "Mewtwonite Y."

>Mega Garchomp has Sand Force as its Ability.

>Fairy-type is super effective against: Fighting, Dark, and Dragon; weak to: Steel and Poison; resists: Fighting, Dark, and Bug; is not very effective against: Steel, Fire, and Poison; and is immune to: Dragon

>Steel's Dark and Ghost-type resistances are gone now. (!)

>Hariboogu is Chespin's evolution, Grass-type, and learns Mud Shot. Teerunaa is Fennekin's evolution, is Fire-type, learns Psycho Cut, and has a twig in its broom-like tail (will it evolve into a witch or something?). Gekogashira, Froakie's evolution, is Water-type and learns Bounce.

>Two Fossil Pokemon are revealed: Chigorasu (the brown T. Rex) is a Rock/Dragon type has Hard Chin as its Ability, which increases the attack of moves involving the jaw, like Crunch. Amarusu (the blue Pokemon) is a Rock/Ice type and has Freeze Skin as its Ability, which changes all its Normal-type attacks to Ice-type attacks and boosts their power as well.

>Torimian, a white Normal-type Pokemon (the one from the Pokemon Direct), has Fur Coat as its Ability, which cuts the damage from moves that come into contact with it in half. A new game mechanic allows you to trim its fur to change its appearance. Round Eyes is a new Fairy-type attack it can learn. Nyaonikusu (Meowstick from the leaks), a Psychic-type cat, has major gender differences. Each gender has a different set of movepools, with the male's movepool being more aggressive and the female's being more supportive. The male can learn Miracle Eye whereas the female can learn Extrasensory (the female is on the left, the male is on the right). Nyaonikusu has Keen Eye or Infiltrator as its Abilities. (the two Pokemon on the left of >>26534 )

>For some reason Parting Shot, Geomancy, and Oblivion Wing are listed as unknown types (???) even though Geomancy was originally announced as a Fairy-type move and Oblivion Wing was announced as a Dark-type move.

>There are five scientists associated with Team Flare: Kuseroshiki, Momiji, Bara, Akebi, and Kolea. Team Flare's goal is to create a beautiful new world. (They are probably dicks about it though)

>You can customize your clothes and hair at a Salon/Boutique. A famous actress named Karune helps you.

>The first X/Y TCG sets will be named Collection X and Collection Y.

>Clemont and the female playable character are seen in the XY anime promotional poster with Ash. Will they be his new traveling companions?

SCIENCE!
Now with more miniskirts!

>>26541
>>26533
>Teerunaa is Fennekin's evolution, is Fire-type, learns Psycho Cut, and has a twig in its broom-like tail
Huh... Hoping it'll turn out to be fairy; but a witch Pokemon sounds pretty cool. Even cooler if the three starters end up as western Sword and Sorcery RPG character archetypes

>>26534
Guess it would fit in with the whole Fighting/Dark/Psychic secondary triangle that's also rumored, if Chespin is Fighting, Fennekin is Psychich, and Froakie is Dark.

...You know what?
No. I hate this gens designs. They are awful. I was trying to give them a chance, some of them look kinda cute, but good God so many of these suck to me.
>>26533
Why is a stick just coming out of its tail?

>>26545

It's a broom handle. Because its tail is a broom. Because it's a witch.

Also ur opinion sux lol

>>26546
>Also ur opinion sux lol
It's allowed to suck. It's an opinion.

The broom tail looks dumb as hell.

>>26547

I think your opinion is dumb as hell.

and I'm allowed to say that cause it's my opinion.

>>26549
Yeah. I know.

>>26545
Actually I thought almost all of the new mons were great until this latest update.

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y: Evo…

>character customization
Yes, you can cross-dress.

>>26552
Oh wait maybe not, I just realized the poses differ so it's probably a girl. How sad.

I just had a dream where Chespin would evolve into a head of lettuce.

>>26546
It's a witch, but it's not a broom handle.
It's a magic wand.

>>26557
Well... that's kind of dumb then.
Why not have it just hold the "wand" rather than jamming it in its tail if it can come out like that?
Eh... maybe it'll get a broom for its final evo.

>>26559
Because then it looks like a broom handle.

>>26559
It's tail is the "straw" of the broom handle this is actually a rather impressive thing to miss.

It still strikes me as kinda sloppy and cumbersome from a design perspective. Hopefully her final form will look more coherent.

http://pokebeach.com/2013/09/evolutions-aurorus-and-tyrantrum-revealed-new-xy-tid-bits

Tyrantrum's getting a permaspot on my team.

>>26567
>after capturing a Pokemon, the Pokemon you used to battle it will now receive experience points!
Okay, so that's one of my long-standing complaints addressed. Still not enough to make me get X/Y, though.

>>26567
>An interview between Gamefreak and gaming website Polygon has revealed that Pokemon introduced in X and Y will NOT have Mega Evolutions.
...what

>>26569
Don't want to ugly up the new guys just yet.

>>26570
It was revealed at some point that Mega evolutions are unique to the region and the tower may play a big roll in them... so why the hell would the pokemon native to the region not have mega evos?

>>26571
They are already naturally mega and their original forms are now lost to time.

>Team Flare's goal is to create a beautiful new world.
So they're a slightly less pretentious Team Galactic. Dollars to donuts they'll play with the "the real beauty is inside you"/ "just be yourself" / etc. trope at some point in the story.

>>26571
I stand by what I said.

>>26573
Don't forget that they'll just be totally evil mustache twirling complete bastards and instead lack any degree of sympathetic resonance/ understanding with the player.

So, I can't be the only one pissed off at the new DLC Torchic can I? I mean really? It wasn't bad enough they do timed event exclusive Pokemon (needed to complete your Pokedex), but now they're doing it with items too?

>>26578
Well at least they're handing it out.
They plain forgot to find a good time to give away the lock capsule.
I guess they realized it was going to be hard to sell an event that gives away an item that does nothing until the next generation comes out.

New rumors:
http://pokebeach.com/2013/09/new-set-of-x-and-y-rumors

>>26582
>Fairy Dunsparce
Eeeeeeeeeeee :3
Too bad an evolution is unlikely to be in the works.

Gamefreak really just needs to get over themselves and admit their games aren't perfect and give stat buffs to Pokemon that need them rather than just trying to fix things with evolutions.

Seriously? And this is as someone who actually likes Honedge.

>>26589
Absolutely disgusting.
I just hope its only a 2 stage-er. 'cause evolite, ya' know?

>>26589
>Sword evolves into two swords
>Two-headed bird evolves into three-headed bird
>Brown lump evolves into three brown lumps with angry eyes
Seems pretty par-for-the-course.

>>26589
Just wait until Triblade that can learn Tri Attack is revealed.

Am I the only one who thinks it looks sort of like a torso with arms? So maybe a 3 sword evo would be like a more complete body. If I had any talent at image manipulation at all I would have made something better than this pic. Basically the "head" would be a bigger Honedge and the legs would be bigger tassel arm thingies.

>>26591
Which is a shame because those are the worst.

http://pokebeach.com/2013/09/rumor-new-pokemon-greninja-hawklucha-and-binacle-revealed
If these are legit I'm definitely sticking with Froakie. Just hope the crazy folks won't turn Hawlucha into a Lucario based on the fact that its feathers look kind of like a camel toe or anything though.

>>26598
No, the new furbait is the fire starter. No contest.

All right!
Pre-ordered X!
I'm not really that hyped about it, but I decided to give it a try.
I'll still be playing Animal Crossing a lot though.

IT'S HAPPENING

Spoilers: http://instagram.com/kosthedin

>>26603
Guess I'm staying away from Pokemon-related places for the next two weeks.

Please, someone tell me that Chespin's third evo is decent. That's all I need to know. I don't want a picture, just confirmation that it looks decent in a way that's either goofy or badass

>>26604
No starter evos yet.

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y: Mega Charizard X!

>>26607
So aside from Clauncher; they're just going to give Pokemon Y all the good stuff aren't they?

>>26604
Nope, it's terrible and Furfox's is even worse. I feel validated in my choice of Froakie. All of its evos are at least decent if not amazing, and better than the Oshawott line.

>>26609
>They all look fine
>The tears still fall like rain because they aren't what people imagined they'd look like

>>26610
I came in with no expectations for any of the finals, but Delphox looks really lazy as hell, and Jaegernut would be cool if its proportions and stance weren't so bad.

I'M THE CHESNAUGHT BITCH

SO FUCKING EXCITED!!!!!! IT'S EVERYTHING I WANTED

>>26611
The transition seems a little extreme when you compare how the mid evolutions changed from the first forms.
We sure these aren't something like mega evolutions or something?

If real I'm going with Chesnaught, but I'm not all that impressed with the designs this gen.

Maybe I'm shallow, but I'm more for stats than looks. I mean, I still use pokes whose designs I like, but it's a chore having to make an entire team supporting them.

>>26611
Way to spoiler the spoiler faggot.

>>26615
Oh who even gives a shit. Nintendo's going to be slapping them everywhere anyway.

>>26611

It'll take some getting used to, but I suppose I'll go with the frog or the fox.

I think Chesnaught would be better if he had a different head. Right now, even though it has a serious expression, it's pretty cutesy.

Fox is ok, I wish the stick didn't disappear though.

I'm trying to wrap my head around how frog's tongue works. Is it coming out of the left side of his mouth or the right side?

>>26611
I was all set to dismiss Froakie but then they go and pull a toad ninja on me. Now I need him on a team with Shiftry and Shedinja.

>>26618
See, these are so much more believable.

>>26618
I think I like this fox a lot better. The long skirt, huge ear tufts, and lack of wand just don't look good.

>People hate the new designs for many, complex reasons.
>One is that the games have gone from being semi-grounded in overall design to being a lot more flashy.
>Another is that the aesthetic went from being 90s anime to modern.
>One is that both Pokemon and trainers are a lot more "bombastic" in their designs, leading to many pokemon looking overdesigned.
>Another is that the artists are plainly running out of ideas.
>Another is that they keep on trying to make new pokes into mascots, designing them to look more human and relatable, instead of just being animals.

>You can't explain this to modern fans without 7 essays and tons of image examples.
>You can't explain this to modern fans without being written off as a 'genwunner' or a 'nostalgia fag'.

>>26611
>Best starters in ages.
>Worst 3rd evolutions ever.

Fuck me.