I knew Bucky couldn't be dead.

Is it weird the thing I'm most excited for in an Ant-Man movie is potentially seeing Wasp? She's adorable.

>Implying Ant Man will ever happen

>>34218
>potentially seeing Wasp

Not sure how the fuck she'd even work considering the mess Edgar Wright (I love him, but come on) is making.

"Hank Pym became Ant Man in the 50s, and half the movie is about that, then it moves over to Scott Lang being the star, who steals the suit and gear from a now-old Pym!"

So... would Wasp be, like, Lang's partner? Or is she old in the present too? Or just not there period?

Dammit, Edgar... wtf.

I like it that some of these logos aren't just a bunch of metallic letters.

Also Thor 2 is earlier than I expected, and GotG is before captain America 2. Are they going for about 2 movies a year?

>>34220
Wasn't Janet Hank's Kid Sidekick before she was his wife? If he worked solo for a while before taking her on, she could still be reasonably young. It'd be quite a May/December romance if she was still his wife, but I guess they could rearrange it so Movieverse Janet is Hank's protege, and comes into conflict with Scott because of her loyalty to Pym.

Pym had a wife before Janet if I recall, and Janet just ends up looking like her in a weird coincidence....there's material to work with to make it work with the weird timescale involved, but it's going to require a lot of rewrites obviously, and is going to end up not looking like the story we saw in the comics. But distilling the story is what these movies do, so I guess it's not such a big deal.

>>34224
>But distilling the story is what these movies do,

No, distilling the story is what the other movies do. Wright is essentially doing the opposite of the others. He's even trying to put both Pym and Lang in as Ant Man.

Now I loved Rhodey's various stints as Iron Man (the O'Neil issues were phenomenal), but it would have been a REALLY stupid idea to try and make an Iron Man movie starting with Tony as Iron Man, set in the past, then passing it on to Rhodey.

>>34225
Or placing Bucky as Captain America.

>all of this news
>ALL OF IT
HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG

So, between the title of "The Dark World" and the macguffin du jour in the first movie being the Casket of Ancient Winters, I'm guessing the villain of Thor 2 is going to be Malekith, then?

Although I suppose Perrikus, or even Zarrko the Tomorrow Man would fit that title.
---

I don't know how much I'm in favour of Cap's second movie being the Winter Soldier storyline. I mean it worked alright in the comics, despite once and for all showing that no one will ever stay dead in comics ever, more thoroughly than any story before it. But making Bucky a villain so early I think probably weakens the impact of it.

>>34225
Yeah, but there's going to have to be distillation as well. There's just too much content for there not to be distillation, even if he tries to cram too much in there on top of it.

That said, I've got faith in Edgar Wright. I fucking loved his adaptation of Scott Pilgrim--liked it better than the comics, in fact. I'm fairly sure he can make something I'm going to enjoy watching, whether or not anyone with any goddamned sense would've made the same choices.

>No 3rd attempt at a hulk movie with avengers personality.
Oh...fine.

>>34220
>Edgar Wright fucking up
Who and what now?
Can that just use the cartoon take?
Earth Mightyest is really good.

>>34230
>Yeah, but there's going to have to be distillation as well.

Oh please. When a writer is demanding that two different people be the main superhero and throws the concept of "sliding timescale" out the window, I don't think it's at all fair to say there's distillation going on. He's trying to have as much as possible because he's a Lang fan first and foremost. He's trying to cram in too much.

>>4232
>Can that just use the cartoon take?
No.

Pym's just getting screwed again. He got screwed out of being in the Avengers because Wright took too damn long to get anything at all done, and he's getting screwed out of even being in the same age group as the other Avengers now that it looks like his movie might (MIGHT) actually happen after all. And when I say "his movie" I mean Lang's movie that will have some Pym in it so that Lang can steal Pym's shit like how Wright remembers it. sigh.

>>34231
> Oh...fine.

They already said it's going to happen, but shit must be so early in pre-production that is obviously not "officially official" and probably doesn't even have a logo at this point.

>>34231
According to Jim Hill Media, Disney wants another Hulk movie, but Marvel isn't so sure because of how the past two films underperformed. They also don't want to overexpose Hulk with the live action show in the works and the upcoming animated series for Disney XD.

>>34236
>They also don't want to overexpose
>Marvel
Disney "XD" indeed.

You know, I'm not sure exactly what it would take to get a Hulk movie right. Personally I'd have kept his actual origin, have less focus on the "Beauty and the Beast" style romance thing (come on, not that many people go to a Hulk movie hoping for daddy issues or romance, we want smashing!), would have kept the "Hulk smash puny army" routine simply because they're too stupid to leave him alone (more like the first movie)... oh yeah, also add Rick Jones.
Also, definitely use Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. They really got it right with this one. I'm not sure about which Hulk CGI would be cool, the one in Avengers reminded me of Grawp from Harry Potter a bit.

>Captain America: Winter Soldier in general
>Edgar Wright making a Marvel movie
>Guardians Of The Galaxy (specifically Rocket Raccoon) in general

Still, i'm curious how Wright's going to handle Ant-Man. Personally, if he was going to make a Marvel movie, I think he'd be more apt at directing the Deadpool movie. But then, Marvel probably won't include the Deadpool movie in their main film canon.

>>34238
Judging by Slashfilm's impression of the test footage, there's a lot of comedic elements in it.

>>34233
>Oh please. When a writer is demanding that two different people be the main superhero and throws the concept of "sliding timescale" out the window, I don't think it's at all fair to say there's distillation going on. He's trying to have as much as possible because he's a Lang fan first and foremost. He's trying to cram in too much.
Simple math will tell you that unless the movie is going to be twice as long as the others, he will actually have to distill twice as much as normal to make his movie work.

>>34238

Basically he wants Scott Lang to be Ant-Man. He said he wanted to do it with Pym being Ant-Man in the sixties, Scott Lang stealing his equipment and becoming Ant-Man in the present.

Also, I'm glad to see I'm not the only that thinks that's kinda bullshit. Why do we have to have Scott Lang in the Avengers? Can't we just have Hank Pym?

Um! I'm not a big comic person, I just kind of really love the MCU, so could someone give me the cliffnotes version of what Guardians of the Galaxy is? but omg winter soldier waaaahhhh

>>34240
I believe Anon's point is not whether or not it's technically accurate to use the term, but rather whether or not using it gives the right impression.

Technically Ant Man will have to be a distillation, yes, but since it honestly does sound like Wright is trying to cram far too much into the movie out of love for the lesser-known currently-dead Ant Man, use of the term "distillation" is extremely misleading.

It seems to be a scenario where Wright knows damn well that the Ant Man movie has to be about Pym, so he's doing a whole thing about Pym, but he actually wants the movie to be about Scott Lang, because the first comic he remembers reading had Lang in it, so he's trying to put that in too. And we're getting two movies in one.

My personal hope is that, since the last time we got an update, someone sat Wright down and went "Edgar... no. Just no."

>>34243
Basically The Guardians are The Avengers of SPAAAAACE!

A buncha really fucking cool cosmic heroes get together to oppose a cosmic threat.

They have matching uniforms and are radical, one of them is a talking Raccoon with a predilection for Rocket based weaponry.

Think Marvel Star Wars band of renegades basically.

>>34217
SO PUMPED ABOUT ANT-MAN!

>>34243
The current version (there's an unrelated team that used the name years back):

Basically there's this misfit band of aliens, led by a human that's a master-strategist, excellent combatant, and kinda sick of this shit, and they guard the galaxy. From anything and everything. They just keep their eyes and ears peeled.

Basically, over the years, Marvel built up a lot of alien characters (either invading earth or showing up in books set in space, like Silver Surfer). GotG is "what if we put together a bunch of the misfits, just this seriously dysfunctional team, and have them fight just about everything.

Oh, and two of the team's founders are lesbians.

And neither is going to be in the movie.

Marvel/Disney, I call you chickenshit cowards.

>>34243
And this is just my figuring given the source material, I assume it will be more murder-y than your standard Marvel movie, 'specially since I figure on Annihilus being the principal villain.

>>34246
REALLY? NO MOONDRAGON OR PHYLA-VELL?

FUCK.

>>34248
To be fair, if Phyla were there it would be just to fuck up.

>>34246
Waiting for the porn parody one to eventually be made, when they hear lesbians were canon.

Funny thing is, I'd rather "Moondragon" not be bald for the lesbianity scenes, but then my nerd size would rage for the innacuracy. :/

>>34248
Indeed. They've confirmed the lineup is (for the newbs)
* Peter Quill/Starlord - Human combatant with just this ridiculous affinity for space shenanigans. He was born for this.

* Rocket Racoon - Little dude, big guns

* Groot - Big tree.

* Drax - A man biologically altered to be the ultimate weapon when it comes to killing Thanos (Marvel's biggest Space villain)

* Gamora - Thanos' daughter, the ultimate fighter, the deadliest woman in the universe, sorta like Black Widow if her martial arts were so uber she could kill Superman-types with them

So yeah, no Phyla or Moondragon. GYP.

>>34249
>To be fair, if Phyla were there it would be just to fuck up.

Yes, but that's part of the team's appeal. Everyone there's a consummate professional, but their lives are kinda a wreck, and they're not really team players, so forced to be in a team they're out of their element and end up getting things done the hard way. And Phyla and Moondragon are even bigger screwups than the others.

>Thor 2
>Captain MURRICKA 2
>Edgar Wright Ant Man is actually happening
>Guardians of the Fucking Galaxy
THE CYCLE BEGINS ANEW, AND I AM READY.

>>34251
well trying to carry on a relationship when either one keeps ending up transformed/possessed/crazy/dead can be rather taxing.

>>34254
Truth, ask Scott Summers...

>>34250
Gamora is Thanos' daughter? Cool, didn't know that.

Oh! So they are going with Antman2 and not Yellow Jacket?
Well then maybe Wasp can get her own movie...
Also The Avengers: Earth's Mighties…

>>34258
>Well then maybe Wasp can get her own movie...

Nope.

>I like Avengers: Earth's Mighti-

Marvel doesn't like that show and is replacing it with something "closer to the movies". So pointing to it as a direction Marvel should go in is kinda silly, since they just emphatically rejected it the other week.

>>34255
>Gamora is Thanos' daughter? Cool, didn't know that.

Adopted, and groomed to be a living weapon, but yeah...

Here. http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3514141.html

Oldie but a goodie. And no whinging about where it's been posted.

>>34265
Oh Thanos, he can have really good depth when someone actually gives a shit to write him. So if they did have him in a movie what would his goal be? I mean getting the gauntlet or just going straight for "end it all so I can be with my Beloved"

>>34245
wait a fucking minute
Guardians of the Galaxy is where Rocket Motherfucking Raccoon is from?
I am going to have to see this then

>>34266
Well the stinger at the end of Avengers made it seem like he's probably going to fight them just for the hell of it.

>>34266
I think there being a living personifaction of Death is a bit out there for the movies; likely the Gauntlet and straight up nihilism.

They put in the line "court death". And he burst into a big grin.

He's going to court Death, guys. Not old-fashioned nihilism, genuine balls-out-crazy trying to win the love of Death.

>>34217

>>34286
Urgh is it me or high definition pics go into uncanny valley territory? If I were talking to him here I don't think I'd notice the texture of the skin like that.

Hope they will keep the skull face. It just looks cooler.
Also how does she realat how Hel: the guardian of the underworld.
Are they BFF's or something? Now that would be funny.

And the new Avangers cartoons is more of a sequel to A:EMH then a replacer. I can tell by the fact they have the same artstyle.

That Thor title doesn't give much hope for Beta Ray Bill..

>>34289
Sure it does, if it's actually implying Malekith as the bad guy. Both were Walt Simonson creations.

And if anything Beta Ray Bill fits even better in the Thor movie cosmology, where he's just an alien.

>>34265
Actually, sir, Avengers Assemble has been said to be a continuation of Avengers EMH, by Loeb. Basically like JLU was to JL. Apparently they heard everyone bitching.

So, I hurt my foot, and while limping around I suddenly realized something:

Thor 2 DESPERATELY need to include Skurge the Executioner, so they can incorporate Gjallerbru into Thor 3 (or some future sequel)
To do a Thor film series and not include that scene would be criminal.

>went to the theater last Friday to see ParaNorman
>notice they're still selling tickets for The Avengers at the nearly four month mark
>and it's still in the top 15
Jesus. It's only a couple weeks until the DVD comes out.

>>35082
Actually they started it back up for Labor Day weekend

>>35085
They never stopped showing it at my theater... o_o

>>34293

But they appear in different story lines. The story line with Malekith takes place after the Beta Ray Bill one and does not feature him.

All right, so with how closely some of the heavy hitters of the Avengers emerged in the MCU (Iron Man, Thor, Captain America) at roughly the same time, and how Fury's Avenger's Initiative has seemingly been around for far longer than that, who did Nick originally think of having on the Avengers before all these gods, super soldiers and mad scientists fell in his lap?

Black Widow and Hawkeye are a given, maybe even the Hulk or Abomination, but who did Nick have in mind when he originally planned to assemble a team of Avengers?

>>37148
I keep thinking that is was the show will focus on with Coulson giving us the back story to some street level fellows that Nick had on the short list before they mothballed the project.

Jeremy Renner is reportedly fired as Hawkeye in the Marvel movies, due to complaining about his minimal role in The Avengers. He'll either be recast with a lower paid actor (Marvel Studios' preferred choice) or be forgotten:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheDailySuperHero/news/?a=79635#8HoxdBy3whHVlM7V.99

>>37150
..TO THE WEST COAST WITH YOU!!!

>>37148
Falcon, apparently, as he exists for the next Cap movie.

Black Panther? The Amazingly Unavailable Spider-Man?

Wait, shit, no, I've got it! Forbush Man!

>>37152
Forbush Man must be reserved for the flagship title of Phase Three: Nextwave.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Official Trailer

WHY AREN'T WE ALL TALKING ABOUT THIS?!

So, Ant Man's gonna be in Avengers 2 right? Because I really want to see him with the other heroes.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/7344-Secrets-of-S-H-I-E-L-D
I like it better when internet nerd takes infodumps instead of raging about stuff.

>>37259
>But he's also Black and that does narrow things down

Except no, no it doesn't. If Norse gods can be recasted to be black, ANYONE can be recasted to be black.

This dude could just as easily be an amnesiac Namor as he could be Cage.

>>37260
No, because Namor = Fantastic Four = Fox = No go.
And he did say it could be an original dude too.

>>37260
Dude, just... don't give Marvel ideas, okay?

>>37261
That also cuts mutant ties as well correct?

>>37261
Namor predates the Fantastic Four by two and a half decades. If they could have the Human Torch cameo in Captain America, they can do Namor wherever they want.

>>37269
Correct: Universal owned the rights for a while, then Marvel got them back when they did nothing with it.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f218/marvels-joe-quesada-agent-coulson-return-vison-tony-starks-importance-marvel-1757038/

>However, [Quesada] did confirm that, to the best of his knowledge, the rights to Namor the Sub-Mariner are held by Marvel Studios.

I heard that Sony (or whoever) is thinking of selling the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel. While I suspect Marvel will do a better job with it, I have to wonder:

1.) Do we really want ANOTHER reboot of Spider-Man so quickly?
2.) Or would Marvel just take over the existing one?
3.) Would Spider-Man being free to join the Avengers in the MCU be a good thing or a bad thing?

>>37293
Your mileage may vary I guess, personally I think Spider-Man on the Avengers is a NOPE.

But of course Marvel wouldn't think the same because sales.

So Avengers: Age of Ultron won't have Pym and they seem to be positioning Tony to create Ultron instead. That seems like a real awkward way to shoehorn Downey back in after IM3.

>>38629
True, but it woud be worse if the last we saw of Tony were Iron Man 3.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xycdbs_ant-man-2012-edgar-wright-concept-teaser

>>38629
>>38637
Don't tell me you guys also thought Tony was leaving being Ironman at the end of the movie. A lot of people seem to have gotten that part wrong.

>>38652
Yeah, I just took it as him making a symbolic gesture, and starting over from scratch, rather than actually giving it up. Although I do think he was planning on reducing the amount of time he spent on making Iron Man suits.

>>38652
I thought it was painfully obvious he was just taking a break for the time being and that it wasn't going to be a permanent thing.

Some people assumed that Tony was quitting because he blew up all his armors.

Forgetting that in the first movie it was shown that it took a handful of hours for the automated process to work it's magic. After building dozens of armors, the process probably is so fast that TOny can sit down to watch LotR Fellowship of the Rings (theatrical version!) and have a new armor ready once they get to Moria.

>>38652
Hey, >>38652 here. Maybe. Honestly I didn't know what to think (didn't even enjoy the movie that much), but I already knew at the very least something would bring him back into the game for Avengers 2, so whatever.

Must be good having the money to just blow up a bunch of incredibly expensive combat armors as a symbolic gesture...

Maybe he considered focusing on tech that can't be easily replicated for war in the next endeavours or something, but that wasn't clear. Maybe next he's going with the nanomachinery crap.

>>38629
Supposedly Ultron is going to be Jarvis going evil.

>>38754
Oh shit Marvel what are you DOING

>>38755
Yeah, it should have been that robot arm which Tony treats as a pet

>>38754
Not this shit again.

>>38754
So I'm supposed to take something that couldn't fight some random supersoldiers without massive casualties as a threat to the Avengers

>>38769
The big fight at the end of Ironman 3 was actually very Ultron-like. He usually has several weaker cannon fodder bodies which get wrecked rather easily by the heroes.

>>38770
They were all cannon fodder. I mean they were weak as shit. I really don't want another Hammerdrone fight.

http://comicsalliance.com/katee-sackhoff-captain-marvel-casting-rumor/

heh, just for the lulz of Marvel getting a leading lady movie in production while DC/WB wrings their hands over the whole Wonder Woman thing

>>38832
Usually this leads to comic books imitating movies but considering how shitty her book has been if the movie is halfway decent this can only be a good thing.

I would prefer WW getting a movie to fucking Ms. Marvel of all people.

>>38848
Agreed but DC doesn't have anyone with any clue how to actually work that kinda movie. Warner Bros barely gives two shits about the DC Stable and is operating on the old saw of superhero films that made money in the past and will take little effort to get the public enthused about the character. While on the flip of that Marvel is actively putting their cast in shows to get people informed about who the fuck they characters actually are.

"Hey we made a cartoon so people will finally know who the Green Lanterns are and the next movie will actually work."

"Nope we must kill it because the reception of the film showed that nobody wants to see a Green Lantern film."

"But it will work this time because now people will know more about them."

"Pfft.that is too much a risk..I'm gonna go cuddle with my Batman security blanket."

Warner Bros owns DC for fucking decades and barely uses the damn thing. Disney acquires Marvel and under Five years is pumping money into making films nobody ever thought would see the light of day.

>>38848
I thought she had a well-received recent series that had Aaron Stack in it.

>>38850
A comic featurig Aaron? I might have to give it a shot.

>>38850

He current series as Captain Marvel has also been getting good reviews.

Cheesy CGI aside, that was pretty damn solid.

Goddammit Whedon, you DOUBLE Joss'd us about Son of Coul, you bastard!

Please oh please make him the Vision in Phase 3.

>lame humor
>self-aware writing that's eye-rolling
>forgettable cast of characters

Yup, it's a Joss Whedon show

>>38964
He died AGAIN?!

>>38968
No, he just died the first time. Whedon was telling the truth when he said, over and over that Coulson died. The Coulson in the show looks to be a LMD.

>>38964
>>38968
>>38972
Wait, is that confirmed or just fanon? All I got from watching the show was that there was definitely something up about his survival/resurrection/"resurrection", but they didn't seem to specify what.

>In its comic book and cinematic incarnations, S.H.I.E.L.D. is staffed by skilled personnel, but helmed by the ultra-charismatic -- and ultra-dangerous -- Nick Fury, and for good reason. The game is one of epic heroes and villains, of larger-than-life characters who compete with outrageous, godlike force -- not to mention Kirby Krackle! Although Fury, like Batman and Bond, has no superpowers, he is clearly suprahuman: irresistible, indomitable, invincible. And Agent Coulson, with his Rudy Giuliani aplomb, is no Fury. (Actually, he could take a few attitude lessons from Samuel L. Jackson.)

>And speaking of Jackson, the SHIELD opener would have benefited immensely from a 15-second cameo or even a damn phone call from Jackson's Fury. (Hell, I would have bought everybody drinks for a quickie Paste-Pot Pete appearance or even a walk-on by Stan Lee!) Even more disappointing was that the show had no menace, no tension. A month or so ago, during a conversation with Loeb, he categorized the series as "S.H.I.E.L.D. meets The X-Files." Great premise, but barely in evidence. SHIELD needs to be much tougher, much stranger, much edgier to reach its potential!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/agents-shield-comic-creator-jim-636457

>>38973
Coulson went to Valhalla and the Asgard dudes were like, "hey lets make him one of us since he's a really awesome guy".

>>38965
Biggest problem is the self deprecating comic references. Its shit like that is the reason the public have crap opinions of DC heroes.

>>38974
All those butthurt comments.

Christ I'd pay to see a Steranko SHIELD movie or tv show.

>>38965
It's a show by Joss Whedon based on a mega-popular Joss Whedon movie. You knew what you were getting into when you signed up.

>>38974
Careful or you'll awake the rabid Whedon defense force that tried to dismiss even legitimate criticisms of the Avengers movie as autism or butthurt.

>>38985
Based Steranko is no afraid of such silly people.

Everyone but Coulson and May really needs to be less... bad. Especially Fitz Simmons, who are a distillation of everything wrong with technobabble.

For a show about spies in a world of superheroes, there isn't nearly enough oomph to the show yet after two episodes.

>AoS its already on swedish tv
Well shit. Did not see that coming.
I could really get into it.
To bad its a show about "pepole".
And I really dont like "pepole"...
And super hacker girl is the worst type of smug cunt.
All of my hate too that archetype.

Ok AoS two episodes in. Just kind of bored. Good to see Whedon got another show with a petite woman beating up men. I'm disappointed they won't throw in some Easter eggs. Hell even First Avenger had Jim Hammond in it.

>>39030
Agent May being a badass isn't as bad as that for a few reasons, not the least of which being the fairly long history of ass kicking lady SHIELD agents from the comics (although like half of them are blond chicks)

But yeah, it's underwhelming so far. And the fact that they aren't exploiting the Marvel Universe, which is so far the biggest draw, is not really helping.

>>39032
Oh I know about the female agents. Why we couldn't use one of them I don't know.

Thing that could save AoS is having fun and Nicks twin Brother. Its so not comic book that I find it more frustrating then anything else.

>>39033
Because they are all either blond women, or currently starring on How I Met Your Mother.

(Also, because I think Sharon Carter is probably going to end up in a Captain America movie)

>>39035
I thought Black Widow was basically going to be Carter in the Winter Soldier.

How about Jessica Drew pre powers? She could even tie into HYDRA. And instead of the britbongs throw in Hank Pym or something.

>>39032
I think thats what it really needs. plot devices that are new and unseen instead of stuff left over from the movies

>>39036
I disapprove of all uses of Jessica Drew in any situation. And honestly, again, I'm actually pretty alright with Agent May in the show.

Ming-Na's a decent actress, and having new characters will no more diminish things than having made Phil Coulson the face of SHIELD did.

It's all the young hotties that make up the rest of the generic or annoying cast that need to be replaced with people who are less terrible.

>>39038
Jessica Drew is fine as long as Bendis isn't writing.

She might be a good actress but so far the snarky 99% hacker gets more screen time. Thing is Coulson was interesting, he had a place as the straightman to all this crazy crap. It helped that Whedon had nothing to dowith the creation of the character though.

>>39040

they really should have been given a list of low listers to use. Making a whole bunch of crap OCs that have no connection the the comics does nothing to help the show.

>>39041
Just imagine if they try to throw this group into the comics like they did forNick Fury Jr and Coulson.

Its going to get better.
Most shows do.

Also what is the odds on A.I.M being behind centipede?
Because I want my Beekeepers!
Even if its just for one episode about some biohazard.

>>39044
Well, Rising Tide feels a crapton like Hydra, so Centipede being an AIM thing seems plausible.

>>39044
Yeah, the general rule is that Season 3 is the best season of any show. And Season 2 is usually better than Season 1.

>>39052
yea maybe then I still want Scorpio to be in this at some point

>>39052
>Yeah, the general rule is that Season 3 is the best season of any show.
Gonna need examples though. Most every show I can recall right now didn't follow that rule.

>>39054
Yeah, for live actions shows at least, it's much more common to just get stupider over time.

>>39055
Thats probably because they ruin out of ideas.
Luckily this show has most of the Marvel multivers to draw from.
So its stupid ideas we'll have to watch out for.
Like them being stuck in Savage Land for a season.
No wait that sounds awesome.

>>39058
Always fun shit in the Savage Lands and if you get stuck there then some other heroes are bound to show up soon after.

>>39054
It applies more to sitcoms than it does to hour-long dramas, I guess, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer is an apropos example.

Even in dramas, the first season is almost never the best season just because it usually takes most of the first season for the team to really "click" with one another and start firing on all cylinders. So maybe it's more around Season 2 for dramas, but it's definitely not Season 1 for almost anything. Even the stuff that starts off strong is usually way better in Season 2 than it was in Season 1.

Assuming of course that we're talking about a series that was designed to be able to accommodate multiple seasons. Shows where they just had one story to tell then kept going because the ratings got high (like Heroes, for example) were really meant to be miniseries in the first place.

>>39068
I don't watch dramas.

Also Buffy was one of the shows I had in mind. Don't remember a lot of season 3, but I like how the first season reflects horror movies from then, lighting etc. Also whedon hadn't started cast slaughtering and putting extra drama all over the place.

Also came to mind Parker Lewis Can't Lose. PERFECT example of what I had in mind: starts out as a cartoony comedy show and by the time it reaches season 3, it's trying to be a deeeeep John Hughes-esque drama about growing pains. One could argue Big Bang Theory lost some charm from the first episodes once they paired up everyone (if you liked the show to begin with), and so on.

>>39070
Chuck Lorre shows in general do not follow the pattern because they prefer the "Start at mediocre, then get progressively worse for seven or eight seasons"

>>39070
Season Three was the one with Faith and the Mayor. One could make an argument that Season Two is better, in that it did feature what might've been the best episode in the series (School Hard), but I've never really heard anyone say that Season One was the best season of Buffy. It was pretty rough around the edges in those early days.

>>39072
>Faith
ehhh...

>the Mayor
That was kind of neat. Was it the graduation season, then? Guess it could have been a good series ending if the show didn't get a chance to continue.

Which reminds me of Smallville. Really liked the first season, but the drama got old for me fast.

>>39073
I wasn't mentioning Faith as a selling point, just as an identifier of which season it was. That said, Faith was key to a couple of fun moments, like when she switches bodies with Buffy and we get to hear her idea of what Buffy is supposed to sound like. And it's a bit of a "Women in Refrigerators" moment, but she's also the centerpiece in what is pretty much the only time in the entire story the Mayor gets genuinely pissed.

I hope that launching forbidden tech into space comes back to bite them when the next alien-thing shows up.
Like the Kree or something.

>>39080
They're all fucked when the Hulk gets back from outer space anyway.

>>39081
You mean when Captain America comes back to Earth?

>>39074
Faint memory of that... does she kill one of his henchmen? I think I recall something like that, and being interesting. Or I might be confused.

>>39084
>Faint memory of that... does she kill one of his henchmen? I think I recall something like that, and being interesting. Or I might be confused.
Well, he was genuinely upset about his deputy's death, but the moment I was talking about was when Buffy stabs Faith and puts her in a coma, and the Mayor gets PISSED because evil snake-demon-wannabe that he was, he genuinely thought of her like a daughter.

>>39085
Ooooohhh THAT!

Rewatched parts of Ghost Rider 2 earlier today. Screw it, I still think it as pretty okay.

>>39104
The hell do people even expect from a Ghost Rider movie that that didn't have?

>>39119
Eh I could see some off-putting stuff on it, awkward shots and some out of place acting from Nicholas Cage, and the whole thing involving angels. Also maybe Mephisto going out too easily.

But I really liked the action scenes, and the Rider's effects were leagues better than the first one in my opinion.

>The result is a film that is enjoyable in spots, but haphazard and ultimately unsatisfying. As with "Iron Man 3," these films are increasingly feeling like episodes of TV shows or, perhaps more appropriately, issues of comic books. For all the good gags and eye candy, this ultimately boils down to yet another quest to find a magical MacGuffin that will stop a portal in the sky from opening (seriously, has that become one of the Seven Basic Plots at this point?). And while the hardcore geek crowd may eat that up, the rest of us need these films to distinguish themselves a little more if we're going to have one every six months.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/review-marvels-thor-the-dark-world-with-chris-hemsworth-natalie-portman-tom-hiddleston-20131022

>>39139
> storyling

Uh, is that even a word?

>>39140
It's probably just a typo.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier trailer:

http://badassdigest.com/2013/10/24/the-captain-america-the-winter-soldier-trailer/

Looks good.

>>39144
Aw cool, Falcon.

Weirdos in masks and suit? just another day in stockholm.
And I hope rule 63 Fury comes back with a SUPER gimmic for season 2.
Also any theorys about any classic villains being behind the eye-thing?

Huh...
I have never Lovehated a show as much as Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Thats whats happens when you mix awful hackers with awesome super stuff.
The secret agent stuff is eh.
Also I hope that Scorch somehow survived.
They did say something radioactivity so maybe he became a living meltdown or something.

damn porn, always skipping the line.

Who's Better: Thor or Loki?

Watched Thor 2 earlier today.

Ehhh mostly same as Iron Man 3 I guess. Some fun jokes and scenes beween Thor and Loki, occasional good scene, the final fight was okay. Too much of a sci fi feel, not muh Asgard (starship fights?! REALLY?!).

It was nice that they got Hogun right (in that he's from another of the nine worlds, Marvel forgot that on a relatively recent comic). Volstagg, on the other hand, was still too skinny. Not many displays of power, almost felt like that Hercules live action tv show in some parts I guess.

As for the two post-credits scenes, I think the second one would be more at home in the beginning of the credits, since it had more to do with the movie.

>>39188
Forgot to comment: interesting to see Chris Yost's name on the credits as one of the writers, can only wonder what on it was his doing. He usually does well in comics. Also, Craig Kyle as producer.

>>39190
O U Japan

>>39190
Fangirls across the world are making their way to steal those signs.

>>39191

China, actually.

>>39195
Yea China has become a movie watching powerhouse now that the government is steadily coming around to giving the studios their cut.

>>39195
Well damn, I should have payed more attention to the moon runes. At least enough to not make that big of a slip.

Wait.

So.

Is Odin dead? Was that what I was supposed to take away from that ending scene? I mean, in terms of where that puts Loki for future films it's much better than him running off shouting "You win this time!" but it feels like kind of a cop-out to kill of the king of Asgard off-screen. And what was up with that Collector scene? Will that guy be important? That scene felt so tacked-on, like they didn't realize until they were already done with the film that they needed to introduce that particular plot thread. They didn't even bother adding 3D to it!

Other than those grips, it was a very solid, entertaining film. Easily better than the first Thor movie.

>>39207

Having only read about the scene on Wikipedia, yes, it’s important. We now know of two Infinity Stones: the Tesseract and the Aether. That leaves four left to reveal over the course of Phases Two and Three, and I expect another one to show up — even if just in passing — during Guardians of the Galaxy, given its connection to the Cosmic portion of the Marvel Universe. We also know that Thanos exists in the MCU (courtesy of the mid-credits scene in The Avengers), and the same goes for the Infinity Gauntlet (courtesy of a brief glimpse inside the Asgardian vault in Thor).

Put all that together with The Collector’s line about ‘one down, five to go’ and the vague rumblings and rumors about MCU Phase Three, and you’ll see what makes the scene so important: it’s a setup for the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, which is rumored to be the main plot driver/storyline for MCU Phase Three.

Back from Thor 2.
It was the most fun I had in a cinema all year.
Yes even more then Pacific Rim.
Why?
A spaceship got stabbed to death!
A fight across dimensions!
Frostbeast chasing birds .
And no punking of bad ass robots before they could show off...

Also for Thor 3 I hope they get into the more wtf parts of norse mythology.
Even just a bit.
Loki's fate worst then death atlest.

Well I am of reading some Valhalla comics.
Want me to storytime one on /co/?

Oh, I forgot, WHERE THE FUCK WAS BALDER, (and the other spawn of Oden)?!
Dating Hela like in the valhalla comics?

>>39233
>Loki's fate worst then death atlest.
You mean getting impregnated by a horse?

The Captain America Cameo was really fun.

>>39237
Heh wonder if we get
>Tries to find pic of comic Female Loki Pregnant
>Did you mean Loki Mpreg
...FAAAAAAAN GIRRRRRRLS!!!!!

Regardless some of this stuff gives me a good idea who would be good for a Female Loki

>>39237
I was thinking of something way worse when I saw his last scene in the movie.
>>39242
Yeah, and you can tell they had a blast filming it too.
>>39244
I think I saw one in /cod/, check the preg-thread.

>>39207
>hey didn't realize until they were already done with the film that they needed to introduce that particular plot thread
It was no different from Fury at the end of IM1 or or the cube at the end of Thor. It's just to show what's coming next.

>>39244
>>39244
>...FAAAAAAAN GIRRRRRRLS!!!!!
If you're looking up pictures of an impregnated, genderbent version of a character, you are hardly in a position to complain about the weird internet fetishes of others.

>>39257
No I'm talking about Looking for Genderbent Loki Preggers and end up getting..yea

>>39257
But impregnated, genderbent Loki predates the internet by like a thousand years.

DUDE GAVE BIRTH TO BIRTH TO A HORSE!

>>39259
But he was a Mare at the time so its not that fuck up.
Or as weird as norwegian park rangers speaking english among one another.
Yet points for having a scandinavian actor.

>>39259
Loki only got knocked up by a horse because his brother Odin didn't want to pay for construction work.

>>39237
You don't know about the snake venom in the eyes?

>>39264
No, I know that one, but the Younger Eddas are of questionable canonicity. Too much influence from Christians trying to turn Loki into a Satan figure instead of a lovable asshole trickster.

>>39266
But it makes for such a badass image.

The reason the earth shakes is a god/giant is thrashing against his chains because a snake drips venom on his eyes.

>>39264
In fairness, that wall was some total bullshit anyways.

Finally watched Thor Part Deux. Pretty damn awesome, liked it even better than the original.

I know a lot of people found Malekith to be bland and boring... but you know, I actually quite liked that he was so cold and business-like about his scheme. He gloats very little, doesn't yell or waste time with speeches, but simply goes direcly to the point.

I mean, the moment he step outside the assult ship on Asgard, the very first hing he does is to take one of those black hole grenades, and throws it at Odin's throne without missing a beat or uttering a word. A very simple moment that speaks wonders of the character and what he feels, you don't expect that kind of subtlety from superhero movies.

About the Odin/Loki thing at the end, I seriously doubt the old man is dead. It would go against what the movie was doing with Loki. Yes, he is a scheming tracherous fuck, but he is alsot not really that hateful towards his foster family as he likes to pretend to be. He probably has Oding locked in a secret place, and pays him daliy visits to taunt him about the reversal or roles.

Also, from what I understand, the scene at the beginning with Lokin being brought after Odin for judgment, happens right after the events in Avengers, and then there is a time skip more or less a year. That means the earht has seen two different and very public alien incursions in a very short time. Better get used to it, Marvel civilians!

An Open Letter to Marvel:

Dear Marvel,

Please either give Darcy her own movie or make her the lead on Agents of SHIELD.

Love, Anonymous.

>>39276
You know, for a reluctant comedy-relief sidekick, she actually is surpisingly helpful. Wiithout her actions, Malekith would have won.

>>39276
Meh, I could take her or leave her.

Also, seconding >>39276, I really like Darcy. Good support character for Jane, and has very funny interactions with Thor. "So how was Space?"

>>39280
> SUBTITLES BAD

I wish I could punch that person.

>>39280
Also, while I do agree that Ian was superfluous to the plot, Jane's date was perfectly fine. The guy barely appears, and it makes sense that after two years she is trying to do SOMETHING with her social life, if she was still sulking it would be creepy.

Rewatching the movie, I caught thatt he Delves' ships did not seem to have any sort of weapons, they relied solely on ramming to attack. That's both awesome and retared at the same time.

>>39287
So good old 40k tech then.
But I think it when pew pew at one point.
>>39285
Man, he sure would hate living in EU.

So Thor 2 was a much better movie than Iron Man 3.

Anyone else find it a bit odd that there isn't going to be a toy of the Asgardian SPACE LONGBOATS? Those suckers were toyetic as all get out.

>>39275
Re: Spoiler - That's actually happened before in the comics, so, could be part of the next movie.

>>39290
Which speaks well of Thor 2, as Ironman 3 wasn't bad

>>39285

It just made no sense to me. The Asgardians all speak friggin' english. The aliens working for Thanos in the Avengers movie all spoke english. Why not the Dark Elves? It seems like such a nonsensical choice. Honestly though, subtitles wouldn't have mattered that much if the villains had any good lines outside of stock phrases and exposition.

>>39295
It was obviously to accentuate that the Dark Elves were extra alien-like (even from the perspective of millenia old extradimensional space gods), coming from whatever darkness was before the universe.

>>39293
I'll have to disagree on that last part.