I knew Bucky couldn't be dead.

Is it weird the thing I'm most excited for in an Ant-Man movie is potentially seeing Wasp? She's adorable.

>Implying Ant Man will ever happen

>>34218
>potentially seeing Wasp

Not sure how the fuck she'd even work considering the mess Edgar Wright (I love him, but come on) is making.

"Hank Pym became Ant Man in the 50s, and half the movie is about that, then it moves over to Scott Lang being the star, who steals the suit and gear from a now-old Pym!"

So... would Wasp be, like, Lang's partner? Or is she old in the present too? Or just not there period?

Dammit, Edgar... wtf.

I like it that some of these logos aren't just a bunch of metallic letters.

Also Thor 2 is earlier than I expected, and GotG is before captain America 2. Are they going for about 2 movies a year?

>>34220
Wasn't Janet Hank's Kid Sidekick before she was his wife? If he worked solo for a while before taking her on, she could still be reasonably young. It'd be quite a May/December romance if she was still his wife, but I guess they could rearrange it so Movieverse Janet is Hank's protege, and comes into conflict with Scott because of her loyalty to Pym.

Pym had a wife before Janet if I recall, and Janet just ends up looking like her in a weird coincidence....there's material to work with to make it work with the weird timescale involved, but it's going to require a lot of rewrites obviously, and is going to end up not looking like the story we saw in the comics. But distilling the story is what these movies do, so I guess it's not such a big deal.

>>34224
>But distilling the story is what these movies do,

No, distilling the story is what the other movies do. Wright is essentially doing the opposite of the others. He's even trying to put both Pym and Lang in as Ant Man.

Now I loved Rhodey's various stints as Iron Man (the O'Neil issues were phenomenal), but it would have been a REALLY stupid idea to try and make an Iron Man movie starting with Tony as Iron Man, set in the past, then passing it on to Rhodey.

>>34225
Or placing Bucky as Captain America.

>all of this news
>ALL OF IT
HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG

So, between the title of "The Dark World" and the macguffin du jour in the first movie being the Casket of Ancient Winters, I'm guessing the villain of Thor 2 is going to be Malekith, then?

Although I suppose Perrikus, or even Zarrko the Tomorrow Man would fit that title.
---

I don't know how much I'm in favour of Cap's second movie being the Winter Soldier storyline. I mean it worked alright in the comics, despite once and for all showing that no one will ever stay dead in comics ever, more thoroughly than any story before it. But making Bucky a villain so early I think probably weakens the impact of it.

>>34225
Yeah, but there's going to have to be distillation as well. There's just too much content for there not to be distillation, even if he tries to cram too much in there on top of it.

That said, I've got faith in Edgar Wright. I fucking loved his adaptation of Scott Pilgrim--liked it better than the comics, in fact. I'm fairly sure he can make something I'm going to enjoy watching, whether or not anyone with any goddamned sense would've made the same choices.

>No 3rd attempt at a hulk movie with avengers personality.
Oh...fine.

>>34220
>Edgar Wright fucking up
Who and what now?
Can that just use the cartoon take?
Earth Mightyest is really good.

>>34230
>Yeah, but there's going to have to be distillation as well.

Oh please. When a writer is demanding that two different people be the main superhero and throws the concept of "sliding timescale" out the window, I don't think it's at all fair to say there's distillation going on. He's trying to have as much as possible because he's a Lang fan first and foremost. He's trying to cram in too much.

>>4232
>Can that just use the cartoon take?
No.

Pym's just getting screwed again. He got screwed out of being in the Avengers because Wright took too damn long to get anything at all done, and he's getting screwed out of even being in the same age group as the other Avengers now that it looks like his movie might (MIGHT) actually happen after all. And when I say "his movie" I mean Lang's movie that will have some Pym in it so that Lang can steal Pym's shit like how Wright remembers it. sigh.

>>34231
> Oh...fine.

They already said it's going to happen, but shit must be so early in pre-production that is obviously not "officially official" and probably doesn't even have a logo at this point.

>>34231
According to Jim Hill Media, Disney wants another Hulk movie, but Marvel isn't so sure because of how the past two films underperformed. They also don't want to overexpose Hulk with the live action show in the works and the upcoming animated series for Disney XD.

>>34236
>They also don't want to overexpose
>Marvel
Disney "XD" indeed.

You know, I'm not sure exactly what it would take to get a Hulk movie right. Personally I'd have kept his actual origin, have less focus on the "Beauty and the Beast" style romance thing (come on, not that many people go to a Hulk movie hoping for daddy issues or romance, we want smashing!), would have kept the "Hulk smash puny army" routine simply because they're too stupid to leave him alone (more like the first movie)... oh yeah, also add Rick Jones.
Also, definitely use Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. They really got it right with this one. I'm not sure about which Hulk CGI would be cool, the one in Avengers reminded me of Grawp from Harry Potter a bit.

>Captain America: Winter Soldier in general
>Edgar Wright making a Marvel movie
>Guardians Of The Galaxy (specifically Rocket Raccoon) in general

Still, i'm curious how Wright's going to handle Ant-Man. Personally, if he was going to make a Marvel movie, I think he'd be more apt at directing the Deadpool movie. But then, Marvel probably won't include the Deadpool movie in their main film canon.

>>34238
Judging by Slashfilm's impression of the test footage, there's a lot of comedic elements in it.

>>34233
>Oh please. When a writer is demanding that two different people be the main superhero and throws the concept of "sliding timescale" out the window, I don't think it's at all fair to say there's distillation going on. He's trying to have as much as possible because he's a Lang fan first and foremost. He's trying to cram in too much.
Simple math will tell you that unless the movie is going to be twice as long as the others, he will actually have to distill twice as much as normal to make his movie work.

>>34238

Basically he wants Scott Lang to be Ant-Man. He said he wanted to do it with Pym being Ant-Man in the sixties, Scott Lang stealing his equipment and becoming Ant-Man in the present.

Also, I'm glad to see I'm not the only that thinks that's kinda bullshit. Why do we have to have Scott Lang in the Avengers? Can't we just have Hank Pym?

Um! I'm not a big comic person, I just kind of really love the MCU, so could someone give me the cliffnotes version of what Guardians of the Galaxy is? but omg winter soldier waaaahhhh

>>34240
I believe Anon's point is not whether or not it's technically accurate to use the term, but rather whether or not using it gives the right impression.

Technically Ant Man will have to be a distillation, yes, but since it honestly does sound like Wright is trying to cram far too much into the movie out of love for the lesser-known currently-dead Ant Man, use of the term "distillation" is extremely misleading.

It seems to be a scenario where Wright knows damn well that the Ant Man movie has to be about Pym, so he's doing a whole thing about Pym, but he actually wants the movie to be about Scott Lang, because the first comic he remembers reading had Lang in it, so he's trying to put that in too. And we're getting two movies in one.

My personal hope is that, since the last time we got an update, someone sat Wright down and went "Edgar... no. Just no."

>>34243
Basically The Guardians are The Avengers of SPAAAAACE!

A buncha really fucking cool cosmic heroes get together to oppose a cosmic threat.

They have matching uniforms and are radical, one of them is a talking Raccoon with a predilection for Rocket based weaponry.

Think Marvel Star Wars band of renegades basically.

>>34217
SO PUMPED ABOUT ANT-MAN!

>>34243
The current version (there's an unrelated team that used the name years back):

Basically there's this misfit band of aliens, led by a human that's a master-strategist, excellent combatant, and kinda sick of this shit, and they guard the galaxy. From anything and everything. They just keep their eyes and ears peeled.

Basically, over the years, Marvel built up a lot of alien characters (either invading earth or showing up in books set in space, like Silver Surfer). GotG is "what if we put together a bunch of the misfits, just this seriously dysfunctional team, and have them fight just about everything.

Oh, and two of the team's founders are lesbians.

And neither is going to be in the movie.

Marvel/Disney, I call you chickenshit cowards.

>>34243
And this is just my figuring given the source material, I assume it will be more murder-y than your standard Marvel movie, 'specially since I figure on Annihilus being the principal villain.

>>34246
REALLY? NO MOONDRAGON OR PHYLA-VELL?

FUCK.

>>34248
To be fair, if Phyla were there it would be just to fuck up.

>>34246
Waiting for the porn parody one to eventually be made, when they hear lesbians were canon.

Funny thing is, I'd rather "Moondragon" not be bald for the lesbianity scenes, but then my nerd size would rage for the innacuracy. :/

>>34248
Indeed. They've confirmed the lineup is (for the newbs)
* Peter Quill/Starlord - Human combatant with just this ridiculous affinity for space shenanigans. He was born for this.

* Rocket Racoon - Little dude, big guns

* Groot - Big tree.

* Drax - A man biologically altered to be the ultimate weapon when it comes to killing Thanos (Marvel's biggest Space villain)

* Gamora - Thanos' daughter, the ultimate fighter, the deadliest woman in the universe, sorta like Black Widow if her martial arts were so uber she could kill Superman-types with them

So yeah, no Phyla or Moondragon. GYP.

>>34249
>To be fair, if Phyla were there it would be just to fuck up.

Yes, but that's part of the team's appeal. Everyone there's a consummate professional, but their lives are kinda a wreck, and they're not really team players, so forced to be in a team they're out of their element and end up getting things done the hard way. And Phyla and Moondragon are even bigger screwups than the others.

>Thor 2
>Captain MURRICKA 2
>Edgar Wright Ant Man is actually happening
>Guardians of the Fucking Galaxy
THE CYCLE BEGINS ANEW, AND I AM READY.

>>34251
well trying to carry on a relationship when either one keeps ending up transformed/possessed/crazy/dead can be rather taxing.

>>34254
Truth, ask Scott Summers...

>>34250
Gamora is Thanos' daughter? Cool, didn't know that.

Oh! So they are going with Antman2 and not Yellow Jacket?
Well then maybe Wasp can get her own movie...
Also The Avengers: Earth's Mighties…

>>34258
>Well then maybe Wasp can get her own movie...

Nope.

>I like Avengers: Earth's Mighti-

Marvel doesn't like that show and is replacing it with something "closer to the movies". So pointing to it as a direction Marvel should go in is kinda silly, since they just emphatically rejected it the other week.

>>34255
>Gamora is Thanos' daughter? Cool, didn't know that.

Adopted, and groomed to be a living weapon, but yeah...

Here. http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3514141.html

Oldie but a goodie. And no whinging about where it's been posted.

>>34265
Oh Thanos, he can have really good depth when someone actually gives a shit to write him. So if they did have him in a movie what would his goal be? I mean getting the gauntlet or just going straight for "end it all so I can be with my Beloved"

>>34245
wait a fucking minute
Guardians of the Galaxy is where Rocket Motherfucking Raccoon is from?
I am going to have to see this then

>>34266
Well the stinger at the end of Avengers made it seem like he's probably going to fight them just for the hell of it.

>>34266
I think there being a living personifaction of Death is a bit out there for the movies; likely the Gauntlet and straight up nihilism.

They put in the line "court death". And he burst into a big grin.

He's going to court Death, guys. Not old-fashioned nihilism, genuine balls-out-crazy trying to win the love of Death.

>>34217

>>34286
Urgh is it me or high definition pics go into uncanny valley territory? If I were talking to him here I don't think I'd notice the texture of the skin like that.

Hope they will keep the skull face. It just looks cooler.
Also how does she realat how Hel: the guardian of the underworld.
Are they BFF's or something? Now that would be funny.

And the new Avangers cartoons is more of a sequel to A:EMH then a replacer. I can tell by the fact they have the same artstyle.

That Thor title doesn't give much hope for Beta Ray Bill..

>>34289
Sure it does, if it's actually implying Malekith as the bad guy. Both were Walt Simonson creations.

And if anything Beta Ray Bill fits even better in the Thor movie cosmology, where he's just an alien.

>>34265
Actually, sir, Avengers Assemble has been said to be a continuation of Avengers EMH, by Loeb. Basically like JLU was to JL. Apparently they heard everyone bitching.

So, I hurt my foot, and while limping around I suddenly realized something:

Thor 2 DESPERATELY need to include Skurge the Executioner, so they can incorporate Gjallerbru into Thor 3 (or some future sequel)
To do a Thor film series and not include that scene would be criminal.

>went to the theater last Friday to see ParaNorman
>notice they're still selling tickets for The Avengers at the nearly four month mark
>and it's still in the top 15
Jesus. It's only a couple weeks until the DVD comes out.

>>35082
Actually they started it back up for Labor Day weekend

>>35085
They never stopped showing it at my theater... o_o

>>34293

But they appear in different story lines. The story line with Malekith takes place after the Beta Ray Bill one and does not feature him.

All right, so with how closely some of the heavy hitters of the Avengers emerged in the MCU (Iron Man, Thor, Captain America) at roughly the same time, and how Fury's Avenger's Initiative has seemingly been around for far longer than that, who did Nick originally think of having on the Avengers before all these gods, super soldiers and mad scientists fell in his lap?

Black Widow and Hawkeye are a given, maybe even the Hulk or Abomination, but who did Nick have in mind when he originally planned to assemble a team of Avengers?

>>37148
I keep thinking that is was the show will focus on with Coulson giving us the back story to some street level fellows that Nick had on the short list before they mothballed the project.

Jeremy Renner is reportedly fired as Hawkeye in the Marvel movies, due to complaining about his minimal role in The Avengers. He'll either be recast with a lower paid actor (Marvel Studios' preferred choice) or be forgotten:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheDailySuperHero/news/?a=79635#8HoxdBy3whHVlM7V.99

>>37150
..TO THE WEST COAST WITH YOU!!!

>>37148
Falcon, apparently, as he exists for the next Cap movie.

Black Panther? The Amazingly Unavailable Spider-Man?

Wait, shit, no, I've got it! Forbush Man!

>>37152
Forbush Man must be reserved for the flagship title of Phase Three: Nextwave.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Official Trailer

WHY AREN'T WE ALL TALKING ABOUT THIS?!

So, Ant Man's gonna be in Avengers 2 right? Because I really want to see him with the other heroes.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/7344-Secrets-of-S-H-I-E-L-D
I like it better when internet nerd takes infodumps instead of raging about stuff.

>>37259
>But he's also Black and that does narrow things down

Except no, no it doesn't. If Norse gods can be recasted to be black, ANYONE can be recasted to be black.

This dude could just as easily be an amnesiac Namor as he could be Cage.

>>37260
No, because Namor = Fantastic Four = Fox = No go.
And he did say it could be an original dude too.

>>37260
Dude, just... don't give Marvel ideas, okay?

>>37261
That also cuts mutant ties as well correct?

>>37261
Namor predates the Fantastic Four by two and a half decades. If they could have the Human Torch cameo in Captain America, they can do Namor wherever they want.

>>37269
Correct: Universal owned the rights for a while, then Marvel got them back when they did nothing with it.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f218/marvels-joe-quesada-agent-coulson-return-vison-tony-starks-importance-marvel-1757038/

>However, [Quesada] did confirm that, to the best of his knowledge, the rights to Namor the Sub-Mariner are held by Marvel Studios.

I heard that Sony (or whoever) is thinking of selling the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel. While I suspect Marvel will do a better job with it, I have to wonder:

1.) Do we really want ANOTHER reboot of Spider-Man so quickly?
2.) Or would Marvel just take over the existing one?
3.) Would Spider-Man being free to join the Avengers in the MCU be a good thing or a bad thing?

>>37293
Your mileage may vary I guess, personally I think Spider-Man on the Avengers is a NOPE.

But of course Marvel wouldn't think the same because sales.

So Avengers: Age of Ultron won't have Pym and they seem to be positioning Tony to create Ultron instead. That seems like a real awkward way to shoehorn Downey back in after IM3.

>>38629
True, but it woud be worse if the last we saw of Tony were Iron Man 3.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xycdbs_ant-man-2012-edgar-wright-concept-teaser

>>38629
>>38637
Don't tell me you guys also thought Tony was leaving being Ironman at the end of the movie. A lot of people seem to have gotten that part wrong.

>>38652
Yeah, I just took it as him making a symbolic gesture, and starting over from scratch, rather than actually giving it up. Although I do think he was planning on reducing the amount of time he spent on making Iron Man suits.

>>38652
I thought it was painfully obvious he was just taking a break for the time being and that it wasn't going to be a permanent thing.

Some people assumed that Tony was quitting because he blew up all his armors.

Forgetting that in the first movie it was shown that it took a handful of hours for the automated process to work it's magic. After building dozens of armors, the process probably is so fast that TOny can sit down to watch LotR Fellowship of the Rings (theatrical version!) and have a new armor ready once they get to Moria.

>>38652
Hey, >>38652 here. Maybe. Honestly I didn't know what to think (didn't even enjoy the movie that much), but I already knew at the very least something would bring him back into the game for Avengers 2, so whatever.

Must be good having the money to just blow up a bunch of incredibly expensive combat armors as a symbolic gesture...

Maybe he considered focusing on tech that can't be easily replicated for war in the next endeavours or something, but that wasn't clear. Maybe next he's going with the nanomachinery crap.

>>38629
Supposedly Ultron is going to be Jarvis going evil.

>>38754
Oh shit Marvel what are you DOING

>>38755
Yeah, it should have been that robot arm which Tony treats as a pet

>>38754
Not this shit again.

>>38754
So I'm supposed to take something that couldn't fight some random supersoldiers without massive casualties as a threat to the Avengers

>>38769
The big fight at the end of Ironman 3 was actually very Ultron-like. He usually has several weaker cannon fodder bodies which get wrecked rather easily by the heroes.

>>38770
They were all cannon fodder. I mean they were weak as shit. I really don't want another Hammerdrone fight.

http://comicsalliance.com/katee-sackhoff-captain-marvel-casting-rumor/

heh, just for the lulz of Marvel getting a leading lady movie in production while DC/WB wrings their hands over the whole Wonder Woman thing

>>38832
Usually this leads to comic books imitating movies but considering how shitty her book has been if the movie is halfway decent this can only be a good thing.

I would prefer WW getting a movie to fucking Ms. Marvel of all people.

>>38848
Agreed but DC doesn't have anyone with any clue how to actually work that kinda movie. Warner Bros barely gives two shits about the DC Stable and is operating on the old saw of superhero films that made money in the past and will take little effort to get the public enthused about the character. While on the flip of that Marvel is actively putting their cast in shows to get people informed about who the fuck they characters actually are.

"Hey we made a cartoon so people will finally know who the Green Lanterns are and the next movie will actually work."

"Nope we must kill it because the reception of the film showed that nobody wants to see a Green Lantern film."

"But it will work this time because now people will know more about them."

"Pfft.that is too much a risk..I'm gonna go cuddle with my Batman security blanket."

Warner Bros owns DC for fucking decades and barely uses the damn thing. Disney acquires Marvel and under Five years is pumping money into making films nobody ever thought would see the light of day.

>>38848
I thought she had a well-received recent series that had Aaron Stack in it.

>>38850
A comic featurig Aaron? I might have to give it a shot.

>>38850

He current series as Captain Marvel has also been getting good reviews.

Cheesy CGI aside, that was pretty damn solid.

Goddammit Whedon, you DOUBLE Joss'd us about Son of Coul, you bastard!

Please oh please make him the Vision in Phase 3.

>lame humor
>self-aware writing that's eye-rolling
>forgettable cast of characters

Yup, it's a Joss Whedon show

>>38964
He died AGAIN?!

>>38968
No, he just died the first time. Whedon was telling the truth when he said, over and over that Coulson died. The Coulson in the show looks to be a LMD.

>>38964
>>38968
>>38972
Wait, is that confirmed or just fanon? All I got from watching the show was that there was definitely something up about his survival/resurrection/"resurrection", but they didn't seem to specify what.

>In its comic book and cinematic incarnations, S.H.I.E.L.D. is staffed by skilled personnel, but helmed by the ultra-charismatic -- and ultra-dangerous -- Nick Fury, and for good reason. The game is one of epic heroes and villains, of larger-than-life characters who compete with outrageous, godlike force -- not to mention Kirby Krackle! Although Fury, like Batman and Bond, has no superpowers, he is clearly suprahuman: irresistible, indomitable, invincible. And Agent Coulson, with his Rudy Giuliani aplomb, is no Fury. (Actually, he could take a few attitude lessons from Samuel L. Jackson.)

>And speaking of Jackson, the SHIELD opener would have benefited immensely from a 15-second cameo or even a damn phone call from Jackson's Fury. (Hell, I would have bought everybody drinks for a quickie Paste-Pot Pete appearance or even a walk-on by Stan Lee!) Even more disappointing was that the show had no menace, no tension. A month or so ago, during a conversation with Loeb, he categorized the series as "S.H.I.E.L.D. meets The X-Files." Great premise, but barely in evidence. SHIELD needs to be much tougher, much stranger, much edgier to reach its potential!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/agents-shield-comic-creator-jim-636457

>>38973
Coulson went to Valhalla and the Asgard dudes were like, "hey lets make him one of us since he's a really awesome guy".

>>38965
Biggest problem is the self deprecating comic references. Its shit like that is the reason the public have crap opinions of DC heroes.

>>38974
All those butthurt comments.

Christ I'd pay to see a Steranko SHIELD movie or tv show.

>>38965
It's a show by Joss Whedon based on a mega-popular Joss Whedon movie. You knew what you were getting into when you signed up.

>>38974
Careful or you'll awake the rabid Whedon defense force that tried to dismiss even legitimate criticisms of the Avengers movie as autism or butthurt.

>>38985
Based Steranko is no afraid of such silly people.