> no [S]
> every fly-towards-the-viewer panel in the past was soundless

Why did people need this clarified.

I just realized I missed a perfectly good opportunity to call this thread "HSG 12 x 12" .. Damnit good ideas why do you always come after the time to implement you is already past >.<

>>69045
Infinity Mechanism begs to differ.

5 boondollars says that hat floats down and lands on someone's head that John'll talk to next.

The masses expected sound because we're spoiled.

>>69048

Yeah but five of a non-fictional currency says it'll take about thirty pages for the hat to do that.

>>69048

Yeah but five of a non-fictional currency says it'll take about thirty pages for the hat to do that.

Finally! Some possible closure on the John and Vriska situation.

Guess we'll see Vriska and Tavros soon.

That or more Hussie shenanigans.

>John meets Hussie
>Hussie kills him again with nary a thought as he might interfere with his pursual of Vriska
>John wakes up

>>69061

But Hussie stopped being a pedophile and is after Meenah now.

>>69057
I don't think it's time for closure for Vriska, more like time for a 8ig come8ack.

Both Vriska and Meenah want to bust out of the bubbles. Who's gonna be first?

Trick question, LE is going to ghost-obliterate them.

>>69065
B-but they'll miss their dates if he does that!

>>69067
Well then they'll be

ALREADY LATE

noooo B(

i sense a "be the rider" scene coming

whats goin on :(

>>69074
Weird Moody Horse Shit.

I just want to point out....

>>69076
hussie gona propose to john!?!?!/

but andrew John is not a homosexual!!!!

>>69079
no you gotta flip it TURNWAYS.
Vriska's gonna propose to John

>>69080
and then John's gonna propose to Hussie???

>>69080

I'm actually hoping like a motherfucker that there's about to be some heartwarming Spider8itch/John moment coming up. I like that pairing way too much not to.

>>69082
i wouldn't get too hopeful about it
remember John is usually a destroyer of ships

>>69082
>>69084
Also
>heartwarming moments
>resolution
>closure
>in Homestuck
Nope.

>>69085
>>69084

Just remember though, this is Hussie we're talking about. Flip flopping shit around to confuse and twist theories and expectations are something he enjoys. We're like puppets.

All I'm saying is maybe.

>>69085
>someone didn't read Karkat's conversation with Terezi in Openbound 2

Seriously, you can't tell me that's not at least a heartwarming moment.

Also we got resolution on Jaspers and the bunny, yo.

What if John is really about to find out how evil Vriska is at the core?

Maybe her plan she was concocting wasn't meant for his eyes, and his newly skeptical teenaged mind won't be able to swat it away with naivete. I liked this ship too but it might be heading into a real iceberg.

>>69088
But Vriska's not evil at the core, she was a scared little girl playing hardcore highblood pirate, and she paid for her hubris in the end with her life.

Also, I really doubt that her desire to live again is going to involve something super evil, unless it's like, allying with Lord English/Caliborn? But that dude is breaking the afterlife and leaving nothing behind.

It's much more likely that John will meet Tavros, and either a.) suddenly have a name and a face for the guy Vriska killed, making him see her as much worse, or b.) he will think Vriska has found a troll boyfriend and be like "phew! so much for that d8, hahahaha! :B" while she is all "::::("

Well the two Breath Heroes finally met and John is stealing...Tavros' ring?

Actually I want to know what happens when a dead person goes to sleep?

....new theory: Tavros and John have an enormous nerdy slapfight while Vriska watches and drools in joy

>>69094

Perhaps the ring is what he was trying to take to give to Vriska.

Hopefully John keeps it and gives it to Vriska.

What if alpha session Prospit queen ring >:?

>>69100
This. Ring's got no kernel thingy orbs :U

Or maybe Droogs lost his BQ one at some point.

>>69094

TAVROS: iT'S, uHH, mINE,,, mY OWN,,, mY, uH, pRRRECIOUS,,,

Well it's clearly the ring Hussie was trying to give.
What properties it has beyond engagement is unknown.

>>69105
Maybe it's a ring that helps with all sorts of engagements.

>John trolling the shit out of Tavros just for giggles

It's everything I've ever wanted

Ahahahahahaha oh my God Tavros

Ten bucks says Vriska didn't know that a.) they were matesprits or that b.) he was going to pull this shit

>>69109
of course she knows, she probably made him search for it in the first place.

>>69111
Even if she does know, who here believes for a second that Vriska isn't going to totally encourage them to fight for her hand?

...wait, fuck that's totally expected, so Hussie will go somewhere else with it...

Don't forget, Vriska may know what John looks like from being a Trollian stalker, but John has never actually seen what she looks like!

I think this will be quite funny in a panel or two

Now that I think about it, isn't the Vriska who was so romantically interested in John back with the dead!John in a dream bubble? In that case, where does this one come from?

Also, I guess that means the Vriska/John romantic pairing is dead from when LE blew that universe to hell and back?

>>69114
The dream bubbles are not very stable. They shift, move, change and probably also bubble.
Which is why Vriska was not there when the John she'd talked to got reduced to nothing.

Oh God I can see it now.

>Vriska tosses Tavros aside
>"Joooooooohn!!!!!!!! ::::D Is that ring for meeeeeeee????????"
>":B how do you know my name, spider-woman?"
>...DOOF

Why is it that Vriska being a greedy asshole is kind of endearing, but when Tavros acts that way he is like the most obnoxious troll ever? I really hope they're not actually matesprits and this is all in his head.

>>69118
Except, he isn't really being greedy here. John is.

>>69119
He's being a possessive and entitled asshole about it, which come to think of it, is considered typical Taurus behavior. Trolls end up being a lot more like their signs than we'd been led to believe.

>>69114
It's the same Vriska. She was presumably chilling with the alt John until Gamzee prototyped her and Tavros's corpses and brought them back as a sprite à la Dream Jade, but then Tavrisprite self-destructed and Vriska and Tavros wound up in the dream bubbles together.

>>69122
> She was presumably chilling with the alt John until Gamzee prototyped her and Tavros's corpses and brought them back as a sprite à la Dream Jade
Actually she was on her own for a while before that. It was during that time that Hussie proposed to her.

>>69123
Ah, right. Can't believe I forgot that. But still, should be the same Vriska.

I'm pretty certain Vriska is not on the same page as Tavros about what exactly their relationship is.

>>69125
She's pretty much obsessed with him for some reason, and tried "redrom" (actually borderline rape) with him at least once. In troll speak, that's... pretty close to matespritship in Vriska's own sort of way?

Sudden, terrible thought:

What if she's not calling for him because of treasure? What if Vriska is screaming for Tavros because Lord English has found them?

>>69131
That's gotta be the least likely speculation for the next update that I've ever seen, and I've seen some unlikely shit.

So is Vriska hunting for pointless dream-treasure instead of trying to build an army to escape with? Whatever happened to that plan? I was looking forward to a recruit-off between her and Meenah.

>>69136

All we know is that she's tired of being jerked around by the afterlife/Hussie/what-have-you, so she wants to do something about it. Dunno what that might be, exactly. She doesn't need an army to combat the idea of the afterlife. Maybe she's getting Tavros to collect treasure for Meenah so she can get into her army, or trick her? Or maybe she's just giving Tavros menial tasks to do.

We don't really know what Vriska's deal is yet, what she thinks of Tavros or John, and what her exact plan is.

....God damn I love this update for some reason

>Vriska as chill exposition fairy
>totally dated Davesprite-Timeline John
>Tavros still all bLUH, bLUH
>no one knows who PM is ever
>John being John again

>>69136
>Whatever happened to that plan?
It never existed. All she mentioned she was planning on doing was, and I quote, to "start fucking some shit up".

Yeah okay but what the fuck was up with Tavros sleeping? What even happens if you sleep in the dream bubbles? Where do you go?

>>69139
Someone on tumblr put it best: "my favorite motif in homestuck is the motif of 'John Egbert has literally no fucking clue what is going on.' "

Also, god damn it's nice to see ol' Spider8itch 8ack in action.

Man I guess we wont find out what the deal was that Alt John made with his Denizen for a while more huh

>>69136
Aaaand there's your answer.

I feel like Tavros is going to outright punch John at this rate.
Well, if Vriska doesn't punch both of them to get their attention already.

So. Even bigger badguy than LE. Does such a thing exist, and if so, is it Hussie or is it us?

so Rufio(sic) Nitram is a thing.

And what was up with Tavros' typing quirk when he got all pissy? It started going all gamzee-like.

Also the secret treasure is the codpiece. Calling it now.

Roofio? Ruphio? Rufeeo? Rufioh?

Place your bets, folks.

I'm really enjoying these dialgoues slash pesterlogs again. It's been awhile since I enjoyed a good one.

Also, I was afraid of what others said and thought he'd be a straight up asshole, but he's pretty funny. I like him better now then when he was just some shy and aloof doof and was practically a living doormat.

I bet the treasure is the ring

ONLY it's not the ring ring. it's the FURTHEST RING.

Calling it. They need to find a giant finger to wear it.

>>69156
A giant finger, you say?

>>69153
> And what was up with Tavros' typing quirk when he got all pissy? It started going all gamzee-like.
That's him trying and failing to whisper inconspicuously. Vriska comments on it.

>>69154
I suggest Rufioh, because it has resonances with the monster-fighting animes.

>>69152

No, it's Gamzee.

He's the most important character in Homestuck, remember, and Hussie has an enormous boner for clowns.

Tavros is still terrible
Vriska is still p great
John is still undeniably the derp king, and also probably the best character

just like old times...

>>69152
I dare say I would tempt Hussie to reveal something like that.

>inb4 it's DMK AGAIN.

I'll have to admit that while I never really liked Tavros, this new brand of horrible suits him much better than the wimpy one.

Also, I really miss the kids, just talking to each other. And I wish this final flash would hurry up so we can return to the teens already.

I don't think Tavros has really changed. He just swears more often and gives Vriska more sass. Which he was already doing last time we saw him.

I'm placing bets on it being DD. He's shown more understanding of his situation than any other so-called game construct, and it is implied that he may have orchestrated LE's creation, whereas Gamzee is merely fitting events together as part of the puzzle. DD strikes me as a mastermind doing it for himself.

Gotta say it's nice getting to see what Vriska's been up to all this time.
I'd almost forgot why I enjoyed her so much in the first place. She's just so fucking cocky and full of herself it makes me smile like a madman.

>>69174

Would make sense, as the B2 sessions has been focusing quite a bit on DD. I guess we'll see in Act 6 Act 4 (whenever we finally get there, god damn this intermission is long) and what else he does besides killing everything with the red miles. (CMON DROOG YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN JACK)

>>69174
But what motivation does he have?
I mean, what could he possibly gain by orchestrating the rise of an immortal omnipotent omnicidal time-travelling universe-devouring reality-wrecking skull angel of double death?

The Horrorterrors (with whom the Dersites are allied) hate English, as do his boss the Condesce and Jack, his, uh, friend?. Unless Kurloz or Gamzee are somehow brainwashing or controlling him (it wouldn't be the first time, after all), I can't see him working for English under any circumstances.

>>69180
That's the point. Someone even bigger than LE wouldn't be working for him, but they certainly would use his creation as some vehicle for ulterior motives. DD is probably the most shady character in Homestuck.

>>69174

See, the problem with this line of thought is that we've already seen a super-prototyped game construct. Jack (Bec Noir version) is pretty much the epitome of the game constructs, and while DD is a fantastic character with much more of a schemer's aplomb, going back to a game construct seems like...a step backwards.

Lord English, it's implied, is Caliborn, who's a fellow player gone hopelessly bad, completely evil. As Jack was the epitome of construct opposition, he's the epitome of player opposition: put simpler, Jack is the hardest PvE fight in SBURB, English/Caliborn is the near-hardest PvP match.

The only thing that's going to be stronger than him is a player that was on the "right" side and then betrayed his friends--i.e., Gamzee.

Let's look at some other evidence:

-Gamzee is the most important character in Homestuck.
-Gamzee has demonstrated incredible power out of nowhere (the fight against the Black King)
-Gamzee is known for mimicry (his Jokerkind sylladex)
-Bards are known for their capability to save or destroy whole sessions
-Gamzee was the last person to talk to Doc Scratch
-HUSSIE FUCKING LOVES CLOWNS

I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I'm digging Caliborn, honestly, I hope we don't go the "and then AN EVEN WORSE MOTHERFUCKER THAN LORD ENGLISH SHOWS UP" route because that would just be stupid! But if there's an Even Worse Guy, it'll be Gamzee.

>>69182

-Oh, one more thing: Gamzee has been shown to have synergy with Li'l Cal. The real Li'l Cal, not Dirk's fake one.

Caliborn himself said the only purpose of that juju is to make the universe it inhabits into a nightmare.

>>69182
God, please no. We don't need more Gamzee. Anything but that.

>>69182
But I thought Li'l Cal was the most important character in Homestuck.

>>69183
Lil Cal as a juju isn't the cause, he is an indicator of an aberrant universe.

If a new enemy arises, it needs to be different than NEWANDIMPROVEDEXTRASTRONG3XCLEANINGPOWER.
It was what made Doc Scratch such a good villian, he was manipulative and scheming, as opposed to Jack's deathmurderkill. It was refreshing and interesting, would you rather be stabbed in the back or front?
Kurloz could be great as a team sabotaging mole. New forms of challenges, rather than "Oh jeez this again"

>>69208
Has everyone forgotten that the biggest asshole shown so far is the game itself? Add to that Calliope's theory that the game will make players turn on each other, and you end up having a potential evil easily bigger than LE.

>>69210
It'd even fit with LE's theme of Space Pimp.

>>69210
I still say it's Hal.

>>69210
It almost kills me that we may never know where Sburb originates and how it was created. I still feel Scratch is an underlying entity involved in it, other than LE. Like, some sort of devil figure who ensures LE does as intended. I may have said this before.

>>69215

There has to be some reason Caliborn has this immortality, such a strange game session, and integration into universes throughout all of paradox space. It'll probably have to do with the fundamentals of Sburb, so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in his session.

>>69215
This is honestly the one thing I've been curious about since act 1.

What's probably going to happen is the same deal with the Green Sun

Everyone's probably going to come together and code the game in the first place and send it to the first ever universe (undoubtedly created by the Cherub's session in a paradox reacharound) so that all the universe's could exist in the first place

>>69215
I always liked to think that sburb had no origin, that there's an infinite amount of sessions and universes into the past with no fist one existing.

I think Calliope will be the one to write the code/create Sburb. She's the Muse of Space; the ultimate passive class paired with the aspect most closely associated with the creation of universes. And if we're to believe Jade, it's also connected to physics.

If Calliope ends up making Sburb, she has allowed for the creation of a possibly infinite number of universes. Through these sessions and universes, she's also establishing tiny pockets of conventional physics in the vast and eternal realm of space-time fuckery that is the Furthest Ring. After all, wouldn't it be incredibly appropriate for the Muse of Space to spread her dream/goal/influence throughout existence without actually doing much herself and the creation of countless races, societies and individuals, especially when considering that her opposite, the Lord of Time, is seemingly working to end reality itself?

>>69220
>to spread her dream/goal/influence throughout existence and thus allowing for the birth, life and death of countless universes, planets, races, societies and individuals without actually doing much herself?
FTFM

>>69220
I think she'll inspire others to do it for her, since that's what muses tend to do. The kids and trolls would most likely work on parts that play to their various specialties, with Sollux and Dirk probably handling most of the actual coding, Roxy maybe also coding but probably handling everyone else's IT problems, Jade advising them on how to make physics work, etc.