Hopefully it deviates even further from the comics. Because I'd honestly like to enjoy the show.

>>29790
The comics were alright until they left the prison, but it's been going in circles since then.

That said, some of the changes from the comic do irritate me- most notably Andrea being a good decade older.

>>29790
I agree. Not because I don't like the comic, but it's better to see something without spoilers. If it followed the comics, each episode wouldn't end with a cliffhanger. Still, it's been leaked that they'll reach that farmhouse in the comics.

That said:
I've been dying to find out what that doc whispered into his ear!!!!!

>>29791

That's actually exactly where I decided I didn't like the comics. And, in retrospect, I hated the entire prison bit as well.

At some point the story became a grimderp and dumb version of a Romero film, only 10 times more nihilistic (in the sense that almost no character had any sort of moral principles, and were behaving like blood-thirsty savages rather than actual human beings), and I just couldn't deal. And then, yeah, it started going in circles where they arrive at some place, something horrible happens, they leave, rinse, repeat.

I'm excited to see if it ends up like an improved version of the books, but now we're starting to get to the parts of the books that rubbed me the wrong way, so it's time for it to show and prove.

>>29792
The whisper takes 6 seconds, the camera changes angles a bit, but from what we can see, lip readers have puzzled together:

Blood... Lori... Child... Sake. It's anyone's guess, but from those words he could have said something like "I know Lori is pregnant. I saw it in the blood samples."

See, I don't mind them changing things from in the comics. Obviously there are going to be variations due to it being a different medium, and whatnot.

But I think deviating TOO much might be a bad idea, and kind of fucks up the possibility of using some of the better moments from the comic.
Like, I'll be honest, I'm upset that they didn't go through with Carl shooting Shane. Not only was that part fucking tense, but it's really the starting point for Carl's development as a character.

>>29792
Well yeah, there's even a shot of the prison in the trailer, so it's likely they'll be there already before the end of the season.

Yeah, piss on the comics, the show is a lot better thus far anyway, I hope it does continue deviating and we never get THIS horse shit.

>>29828
>piss on the comics
...Game of Thrones reference or am I imagining things?

The way I see it, zombie stories only have 3 endings:
1.They all die
2.They all reach a permanent safe zone
3.They resolve the problem

The thing is, unlike other stories, zombie stories don't do well in terms of "The adventures of ... in zombie land - Episode 289". There's just one main plot, too many sub-plots or (like in the comics) dragging on and on, tends to get boring fast.

>>29836

Aren't those the only possible resolutions for ANY plot?

1. The heroes lose
2. The heroes sorta win (but the battle goes on...)
3. The heroes win

>>29838
For most plots. If the protagonists win, they go onto another adventure, fight another villain etc.

Doesn't work so well in zombie land cause you got a single goal: Get outta there. You either die trying, or you make it there. If you make it, there's no reason to leave.

The problem isn't really the fact that it's zombie media, it's really the fact that it's a post apocalyptic story that has been dragged out with very little difference between story arcs. Go to point A, something tragic happens, set out for point B.

To see some halfway decent ongoing zombie stories, watch the three Evil Dead movies, then read the comics. Granted, it's much more of a pulpy adventure series at this point, but it's not the zombies in question here, it is most assuredly the writing that is to blame.

Another way to look at it is George Romero never really continued any of the stories within the "of the Dead" series, each film is its own self-contained story set within the same universe. In this way it doesn't seem to get stale or tired, because you have a resolution to the story each time, rather than watching the same set of characters go through the same movie 20 times. If Vol. 1 of Walking Dead had ended with Rick or Carl killing Shane, or even Shane killing one of them, and then they left well enough alone, taking us to a different band of survivors, maybe to revisit these ones again later? Everything would have been better for it.

Kirkman, bless his heart, tried to write a zombie story in a super hero format, and that's how the disconnect occurs.

Of course, that's just the way I see it.

Do the comics continue to be not good even if you attempt to conceptualize them as an extended character study rather than a terminal plot?

How does each villain/new location compare to those before it?

>>29843
Exactly. The only thing connecting Romero's stories is the zompocalypse. Each movie tells a different tale from different perspectives.
If it's the same characters wandering aimlessly, it get's boring and ridiculous in the long run, even if you include character development.

Evil dead though doesn't really count. 2 was more of a sequel to 1, and 3 took place back in time. That's what made them work.

>>29844
Yes they do. As can be seen from this thread, most, including me, went along till the prison bit. The theme of "Oh noes, we've been over run... let's move somewhere else where we'll get over run again and move on and on and on." is lame.

>How does each villain/new location compare to those before it?
The only villains are the zombies. Unless the group keeps encountering new types of zombies (Starrrrs...). What's the point of finding a different location if everybody knows it's gonna be breached eventually?

Thankfully it's highly likely that the TV series will go on for a few seasons and come to an end.

>>29846

Dynamite published a very long Army of Darkness series (it might still be going, idk, I suck at keeping up with comics) in which he crossed over with Freddy, Jason, Herbert West: Re-Animator, Xena and Obama. Along with his own stories. You should probably check them out.

>>29844
>Do the comics continue to be not good even if you attempt to conceptualize them as an extended character study rather than a terminal plot?

See, this is how I've always viewed the comic from issue one.
It seems a lot of people have some misconceptions about the book and think it's just a story about zombies, when really, the zombies are little more than a set piece. It's not about zombies, it's about people, and their actions in an environment WITH zombies.

I know a lot of people say it gets shitty after the prison, and I'll admit that it has gotten repetitive, but the way I look at it is "what the fuck else are they supposed to do?"
I LIKE that there's no real endgame or goal that the characters are trying to achieve. It's just them trying to live, and It's all a very morbid look at the lengths people would go. Frankly I think Kirkman has done and continues to do a good job at that.
And again, yes it seems to be following a formula at this point, but again, what can they do but move on? The only other option seems to be blowing their fucking brains out and that wouldn't make for very compelling adventures.

>>29852

There also lies within a huge problem with the writing involving those "lengths to which people would go." It's my main point of contention with the writing itself. There are a TINY handful of trustworthy people, and a PLETHORA of awful people who want to kill or exploit everyone around them. It's a very juvenile take on the zombie genre, where they were originally designed to reflect outwardly man's inhumanity to man. The problem being, starting at the prison, Walking Dead became an over the top 90's grimderp version of a Romero film with nothing but cardboard cutout evil antagonists. It becomes even worse when you're forced to confront this... over... and over... again.

I honestly think, if you want to make a decent zombie comic that lasts more than two volumes, you're going to need to part ways with the original party relatively quickly and tell the story a bit more like Stephen King wrote the second book in The Stand, following groups of survivors, rather than one party of survivors. It would probably help if you set it up with a group of writers with one writer overseeing it all, so that you don't end up with one man's nihilism destroying any semblance of believability. Like, I realise we're already stretching the boundaries of what is believable, bringing the walking dead into the equation, but it really starts to hammer its point into your head when every single character outside of the party is essentially a sociopath barring maybe the prisoners (except in this instance, the party themselves behave like savages). Maybe past Volume 4 the group meets somebody who doesn't want to kill, rape or eat them, but from what I've been told... they don't...

>>29859
Well... you could follow the adventures of a badass zombie hunter who goes from survivor group to survivor group and helps them out. Like Mad Max or the Fallout games, except in a zombie scenario.

It sucked!

>>29924
>opinions
well i'm glad you didn't post any non-hidden spoilers

I really, really dislike Andrea on the show. Which is really unfortunate, because she's one of the characters I like better in the comics.

>>29924
Wow, that's amazing! You should really consider a career as a critic.

I was pretty underwhelmed with the season two premiere. It didn't really go anywhere and the 90 minutes running time didn't help at all. I'll keep watching, but I can't help but feel this season will be a let down--and this is coming from someone who liked the first season.

For me, the premiere took a sharp nosedive after the herd passed by. After that, it just became non-stop commercial interruptions and Andrea being a bitch.

Also, part of me keeps thinking that Carol's going to snap and pull a gun on Rick "FOR NOT LOOKIN' FOR MAH BABY YOU HORRIBLE BASTARD."

Also, did anyone else feel like the episode just completely ignored T-Dog?

I mean, the guy really cut up his arm and then had a leaking walker shoved on top of him. Five seconds later, they show him more or less fine hanging out by the RV.

>>29931
i'm just happy he didn't get killed in this episode. honestly.

>>29930
i'm with >>29926 in that Andrea is clearly one of the best characters in the series. i hope they develop her like they do in the comics because it would be a shame to let her go down this path for very long.

>>29931

My friends and I were laughing our asses off at all the POINTLESS DRAMA, actually.

PS: Spoilers.

>oh man he's losing like whole liters of blood
>about to pass out
>next scene: large bandaid/tshirt, walking around like it was a scratch

>autopsy out of nowhere for no reason

>"guys, check out all the storage space in this Hyundai!"

>ganging up at the tent instead of just calling out

>random zombies in church attire sitting on benches at church

>bambi

WHY SO POINTLESS DRAMA

>>29933
Because it's in the horror genre.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/a-whole-lot-of-people-watched-the-walking-dead-las,63555/

>Last night’s premiere of The Walking Dead scored record-high numbers, not just in lines of dialogue that were almost entirely comprised of bitter sniping, but also in viewers. With 7.3 million total viewers (11 million if you factor in the encore)—and 4.8 million of those in the 18-49 demographic, a.k.a the only people who are not lurching zombies themselves—the show easily bested its first-season premiere ratings of 5.3 million, and shattered the previous record set for a basic cable drama, the 2002 premiere of USA’s The Dead Zone. People like dead things.

>>29930
This.

In anycase... the fort huh? I hope it ends there, not too soon though. Don't make them say "This place sucks, let's keep wandering on aimlessly".

Also:
>"He told me something before we left... He told me... Nevermind, it doesn't matter..."

FFS, just tell us already!

I really loved the premier, though I agree it has its flaws. My love for the show only deepens due to the fact that AMC is showing how really TERRIBLE modern Zombie movies are with "Surival of the Dead" and the like. At least in this show I feel tension. At least when characters are douchebags its because of a reason I can somewhat understand. At least the show doesn't resort to "jump scares." The show avoids the things that really bug me about modern horror, so for that I'm thankful and glad its doing well.

I'm also kind of stoked for their western show, Hell on Wheels.

>>29952
>I'm also kind of stoked for their western show, Hell on Wheels.

Signed.
As someone who first heard about watching the Walking Dead, I was sold when I saw Calm Meaney as railroad tycoon.

>>29952
I dunno, I liked what I saw from Diary of the Dead... but nothing can beat the original.

Also, I really hope that the zombies are in the barn because that was the best part of the farmhouse arc in the comics.

>>30005
As much as I'm with you (because that bit was kind of hilarious) I don't think that Otis OR Hershel are being written quite as dumb as they were in the comics.

Episode 2:

I thought they picked up the pace again, but lost it towards the end again. Is this how the second season is gonna be? Up and down?

For a vet, and given the limited supplies: That is one fucking good doctor.

Episode 3:

More zombie action than the last episode but Shane, WTF!? Also, this is seems to be the first episode in the entire series that doesn't end with a cliffhanger..

jesus christ shane

>>30173
Exactly. Sometimes he's totally heroic, other times he's downright psychotic. This guy's got issues.

POLL:
Who is your favorite character? (The show, not the comic)

Shane using Otis as Zombie bait in order to bring back the medical tools that will save Rick's son was a great moral dilemma. We need more scenes that question human morality during a Zombie Apocalypse. It also justified the producer's decision to keep Shane around longer, instead of kill him off the bat like the comic book did. Now we will see Shane break down over this decision and possibly go deeper off the edge.

Now I am finally excited about season two. Let's just hope they don't milk the missing girl storyline any more than it needs to be.

I am fully prepared for Shane to give the Governor a run for his money in terms of "Oh God, What?!" once they get to Woodbury.

Because as much as things may have changed from the comics, there's no way that they won't do Woodbury. I mean, the Governor even got a prose spin off explaining his origin.

Why shoot him in the leg to waste time struggling stuff from him and leave him to be eaten alive when a headshot would have been more efficient?

>>30199
i still buy the distraction part, but he could at least have got him to hand over the gear under the guise of helping hte fat man out

>>30191
oh the joys of discussing an adaptation of something with people who have clearly read the source material.

>>30200
As far as I know, the walkers feast on both living people as well as fresh corpses.

>>30187
Nobody answered the poll so I'll start.
It's Dale. Yes I said it. He disguises himself as an introvert, but subtlely breaks up tension. He's the one who keeps the group together.
Least favorite character/s: The kids. Yeah that's right. In a situation like this, little bastards are a liability. Fuck 'em.

"Got bit.
Fever hit.
World gone to shit.
Might as well quit."

Speaking of the children, I disappointed in the lack of interaction between Carl and Sophia, as their conversations were one of the best things about the comic.

>>30187
I like the redneck best because he's the least retarded.

>>30224
Love the poem. Can't believe they actually wasted an arrow.

>>30253
Why doesn't he just pull it back out?

>>30259
because it was stuck up in the tree?

>>30260
He couldn't cut the corpse down?

>>30267
he'd have to climb the tree.

i guess theres no reason he couldn't get it back

THE WALKING DEAD: NO WITH 99% LESS ACTUAL WALKING DEAD

Are they ever going to resolve this lost girl thing? I thought they only get like 6 episodes a season.

>>30275

That was just the first season, Season II gets 12 episodes.

Also, yeah, just tell us whether the girl's dead or not or whether I'm right in thinking that Merle found her.

>>30277
She's not. Kids don't die on shows like these. Unless you count that little girl at the very beginning of the show. But she was already dead anyway.

Episode 4:

"I'll have sex with you."
The good side of living in a post apocalyptic world!

last weeks dramatic climax: shane being making the king of dick moves
this weeks dramatic climax: lori taking a piss in a field

yeah no apart from the drug-store-shenanigans this weeks episode was shit

>>30300
I thought the bloat zombie was pretty good, effects wise.

>>30300
And why'd she even go out to the field? Surely that was even MORE suspicious than just doing her thing in the bathroom or outhouse or whatever they have.

>>30306
I lol'd hard when it split.
>So what do we do about... *thud* Good thing we didn't do anything stupid like shoot it.

"Hey Lori, what are doing out here in an open field?"
"Err... I was just taking a piss?"
"Uhm... why don't you do it in a toilet for more privacy?"
"I'm trying to be inconspicuous."
"... You do know the doc's watching you through his binoculars and jerking off right? Say, what's that in your hand?"
"A thermometer?"
*Inserts wet thing into her mouth*
*End of episode*

FUCK YEAH, DAT BARN FULL OF ZOMBIES

I only saw half this episode but it was pretty decent. Best of the season so far in my opinion

>>30360
Why doesn't that surprise me?

I can't believe they STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THAT SHITTY GIRL! What, are they gonna find her in episode 13 or something?

Redneck is still the best character. Show's going to be a lot worse if he's killed off.

>>30393
I like Darryl, especially in the last three episodes, but overall I dig his character because I grew up around so many guys like him (I grew up in what I lovingly refer to as Whitey McHickville). He doesn't give up easily, and he just knows he's going to find Sophia, and find her alive.

I liked the scene where he finds the abandoned house with the sleeping space in the pantry and the empty can of sardines. You can tell by the expression on his face he's thinking "Good girl, keeping yourself fed and hidden at night". Also, the tenacity he exhibited to get back to camp with her doll was great.

Finally, totally diggin' the interactions between Darryl and Carol (that Cherokee Rose thing was fantastic, as was the bit where Carol kissed him on the temple in a totally caring/mothering gesture once he was patched up after bringing back Sophia's doll). I don't ship it, but I like that they're sweet to each other.

>>30393
>>30397

I think he's popular mainly cause he's a HARDCORE MUTHAFUCKA.

>>30405
>mfw i realised that stupid bitch was going to shoot him

>>30406
Yeah, Show Andrea is a terrible character.

>>30406
LENS FLAAAARE!!!!

>>30408
Dale should have left her in the fucking CDC

Just read a big ass spoiler for the next few episodes on /tv/... not exactly thrilled with where they're going with it.

>>30386

>>30423
Fucking agreed.

when will they turn her into comic book andrea?

although anyone currently caught up with the comics will know that shit's getting fucking weird with andrea

>>30424
if its the image i saw on /co/ then i am most definalty mad

This is what the guy who leaked the screenshot (the one being posted all over 4chan) said when he originally posted it on/b/:

>"I worked for FX, we get given the episodes in advance so I watched them. I got laid off, so I thought I'd leak this. Part of the production team, well I was anyway. I had a hand in with making the trailers, marketing and boring shit like that. I was able to read potential and finished scripts and the episodes so that I could pre-decide what to include in the trailer etc.

>At the moment I've been laid off, and will find out my fate soon. My position is still being reviewed since there's about a dozen+ jobs being scratched, but hopefully i can stay.

She's dead. >The next two episodes get rather intersting, and then it's the break. They've already polished off several of the post-break episode, but unfortunately it starts off slow. The scripts afterwards seem good though.

>Oh, and the finale there will be some unexpected events, and a main character will be killed off... And that will be shocking by who it is and how they were killed."

Andrea continues to be the worst character.

>>30438
>Oh, and the finale there will be some unexpected events, and a main character will be killed off... And that will be shocking by who it is and how they were killed."
I'm pretty sure that's going to be Carl killing Shane because I can't see them not including that.

>>30455
I hope he meant series, not season. Killing off the main character in the middle of a series is not a good idea.

>>30315
If that had actually happened, I would have had to initiate the slow clap. Also, I might have actually found Lori to be a character worth giving more than half of a rat's ass about. As it is, she's going to basically be a mopey, angsty dumbass up until the point where she'll have to tell Rick she banged his best friend because she thought she was a widow and free to do so, and oh yeah, she doesn't know who her baby daddy is, whoops on not using protection.

>>30458
Mental note to self: Add condoms to emergency supplies.

>>30456
Shane was dead long before they even got to the farm in the comic, if I remember right.

Somewhat spoilery overview of tonight's episode, each line is it's own spoiler (hope I did it right), you have been warned:
We find out how the zombies in the barn are kept fed, and during this scene, if you listen real close, you can hear in the distance PETA starting to write a million angry letters and start to organize protests. Also, Nervous Nellie comes back onto the farm in a run that can only be described as a Haters Gonna Hate for horses.
Everybody can read Glenn's pokerface, and then Glenn mans the fuck up to save Maggie.
Maggie is a rollercoaster of sarcastic-mad-mean-scared-inspirational speaker when involved with Glenn, much to Glenn's confusion.
Daryl only has one good, very short scene...then again, he only GOT one scene, but he made it a good one.
Carol didn't get hardly any screen time, to the point that I had to wonder where the fuck she was until she just sort of wandered in front of the camera before disappearing again.
Dale is omnipotent & omnipresent (the active /tv/ thread while the episode aired was calling him a Sage, and for good reason).
Herschel continues to be a somewhat polite, but increasingly more crazy, asshole.
Andrea magically becomes a crack shot over one morning of practice, and gets incredibly turned on by her own skills, much to Shane's benefit.
Carl wears his daddy's hat like a boss, and also mans the fuck up (to the horror of his mama and pride of his papa).
Shane continues his downward spiral into what might be PTSD, between saying inappropriate shit to Andrea, bangin' Andrea, and then saying REALLY inappropriate shit, this time to Dale.
Lori is a mess (as I predicted in >>30458 ), and she is also a giant hypocrite when she accuses Rick of hiding things from her (no really).
Rick is proud of Carl wanting to man the fuck up, then later finally gets mad at Lori, but then turns out to be the most understanding husband EVER.

>>30468
Yes you're right. They were also several characters that they seemed to have omitted in the real series.

>>30474
just throw Shane in the fucking barn before he does something stupid

>>30478
Too late; he already did Andrea.

>>30474
In short: Glenn and Dale continue to be the best characters to have come from the comic.

>>30482
Really? I find them increasingly annoying in the show. Not to the extent of Andrea yet, but Dale seemingly exists to waggle his eyebrows and be a judgmental fuck (let's provoke the unstable guy for having sex lol), and season 2 years Glenn like he's extremely ignorant/awkward (Maggie's little speech for him was pretty good though, so I'll keep my hopes for liking him again).

So far, all the characters from comic canon are awful and un-entertaining.

>>30474
>>30482
And that is why I said Dale in >>30201

Episode 6:
Everybody turns into a drama llama. Honestly, the best scene in this episode: Decapitating the walker. Don't even get me started on Sophia... again.

Moral of this episode: In a post apoalyptic world, everybody is horny.
Repeating mental note to self: stockpile even MORE condoms.

Valve apparently sponsored the episode last night:
1. Portal reference
2. Hat exchanges
3. According to the active thread on 4chan's /tv/, the shotgun sound from Half-Life 2 was used.

Also, we found out that the AMC leak was right about Sophia. He came into the thread, told us he was fired from AMC and that's why he leaked what he knew. He apparently also knows the bigger plot points for the rest of the season, including what happens in the final episode. Predictably, the rest of the 4channers told him to EABOD and DIAF for leaking in the first place.

>Killing Sophia
MOTHER FUCKERS.
Seriously what is this garbage?
Shane is alive and Sophia is dead.
I understand them not wanting to just make a carbon copy of the comics and shit, and I'm cool with that, but this is just over the fucking line. This completely ruins so much characterization of numerous characters in the future of the series.
They're just making this shit way too bleak way too early. You gotta build up to that shit man, you can't just pour the grim on all willy nilly.
Ugh.

>>30581
On the plus side, because now the TV version is so different from the source comic, I really want to read it.

And if the TV version induces a lot of rage for you, just consider it an AU of the source material. Same premise, different outcomes.

I just want to say that this show is shit but Shane's actor is phenomenal.

>>30581
i woke up upset and in a state of dire panic when my brain finally processed that the TV series killed sophia. i hadn't realized how important it was to me that she was alive. i knew she was alive. the comics told me so. she was alive and this was just a little sideshow diversion to evoke all the worst of shane and make it obvious he needs to go. i knew that. but then... i didn't. my understanding of that world was shattered and i hated how betrayed i felt.

that right there for me makes the tv show something powerful. even if i love the development of the characters in the comics, i think they're doing something right in spite of my preferences.

>>30583
it's a horror zombie show. what the hell were you expecting? most of the time all you do is bitch about "if they were smart they would do x so therefore i can't buy into it." okay. i guess your suspension of disbelief has a bit of a lower threshold than the rest of us.

>>30583
I hate Shane, but his ranting scene, that was BRILLIANT television. I need a gif of him walking past the Walker while he blew her brains out.

But ugh, when I saw the leaked pictures, I tried to justify it to myself, they were going to do like they did with Daryl. She was going to stumble out, pale, shambling, dirty, and right when Daryl/Shane/Rick/Whoever was about to pull the trigger, she'd look up and it'd turn out she was still alive.

And then I had to find out that the episode was out because Tumblr posted a screencap of her. So the entire episode, I knew it was coming. That made it WORSE. The rest of the night, all I could think about were her last moments. Where a Walker would've gotten her, how it happened, what she was going through. I broke my own damn heart.

i am really looking forward to rick chewing out hershel. they were looking for a little girl and you HAD A LITTLE GIRL YOU HAD NEVER FUCKING SEEN BEFORE IN YOUR FUCKING ZOMBIE ZOO? AND YOU DIDN'T SEE FIT TO MENTION IT?

actually maybe thats why he wanted them to leave so bad...

>>30589
amen. god teir rant

>>30580
i'm sure i've heard that shot gun sound in plenty of things beside HL2. also needs more tank

>>30580
Was that before or after he leaked?

>>30581
"Oh noes! They killed a kid!". Quit bitching and man up you sissy.

>>30589
The moment you spot a spoiler, close the browser and wash your eyes with soap!

Overall: Episode 7 was, in my opinion, the best of season 2.
Shane finally goes berserk and no more "looking for Sophia". The final scene was in fact the best scene sofar in the entire TV show.

Regarding actors: Does anybody else think the make-up artist put a little too much lipstick on Rick?

>>30593
>quit bitching and man up
Oh my bad, I'll be sure to not look like a "sissy" in front of you mr. internet tough guy.

I'm not upset that they killed off a child, I'm upset because they fucking killed of Sophia for no particular fucking reason other than to grim shit up. And like I said before, grim is fine and dandy as long as they don't over do it, and now it's over fucking done.

>>30593
>Was that before or after he leaked?

The AMC leak did the pictures of Sophia a while ago on /tv/, and at the time people called them fake, because they didn't want to believe that AMC would build up this "searching for Sophia" arc only to have her be a zombie (plus in the comics, she lives).

The Leak came in at the end of the episode thread on Sunday night to gloat about how the pics were real and he was leaking true shit. The rest of the thread consisted of 4channers ripping him a new asshole, and that still didn't keep him from leaking more of the major plot points for the rest of the season. He's even promised to come back in February to /tv/, right before the rest of the season airs, to leak a few more things. That's about the time that he was told to EABOD and DIAF.

>>30595
i don't agree with your opinion of the worth of killing sophia, but i will support you in pointing out how much of a twat "that guy" is.

what a fucking twat.