I like to think that after the Unbreakable Katana was alchemised, they chucked Dirk off to the side for being associated with a non-"Zilly" weapon.

Sooo, Jade or Roxy. Who's gonna bite it?

>>71370
Maybe neither, and Roxy will default to fistkind. Or maybe Jade is just a beautiful strong space wolf-girl who don't need no weapons

>>71371
Maybe Roxy's the type who does stronger damage without equiping weapons--like a Monk class in some RPGs. I mean we haven't seen her attack using rifles--just using them as a support machine(creating portals as seen in the Act 6.4 flash)

Maybe as a Void player she has to be VOID of all weapons. Though I could be saying that partially because I want to see some Kung-Fu Roxy action.

Or maybe both of them survive and continue to use rifles, but only one of them wields the Zilly Weapon in whatever event demands the use of all seven.

What is Vrillyhoo's place in all this endgame weapon business?

damn, i feel like those needles are gonna fuck a lot of shit up

And they alchemised the lot of chekhov's guns.

so how's Dave gonna break his zillyhoo sabre then? Or maybe he alchemizes it with the sword he already has?

And it's a shame we're never gonna see what if anything Jane's WK scepter fork does

So is the cherub world like Neverending Story or LoTR or

>>71375
how many zillyhoos are around right now anyway
i mean
we have this one, we have the one john is bringing and we have the one gamzee is bringing
so unless a couple of them end up becoming the others through time shenangians the likes of which i cannot even fathom, were basically swimming in the damn things already

>>71381
oh also
three unbreakable katanas

>>71379
The joke will be that Dave ends up breaking Dirk's unbreakable sword, thus turning it into the ultimate halfsword.

Maybe the cutlass is intended for Vriska? I mean, those are generally associated with pirates, right?

I, for one, really hope that the Zillyhoo stuff won't end up as some kind standardized final battle outfit for everyone. They're inherently pretty lame already, and having everyone use the same shit would just make it lamer.

>>71384
But she only uses that cutlass when doing her ancestral awakening.

I hope each kid alchemizes their zilliyweapon with something to make them more personal, like John's pop-a-matic vrillyhoo warhammer or whatever it's called

Huh, I was thinking they'd maybe go and make up for Dirk's sword by creating the last zilly weapon anyway, like maybe a set of zilly sickles or juggling pins, but if there is one I guess it might be left a mystery. That'd be kind of neat, since then all sorts of zilly-related weapons could have some sort of claim to being "the true seventh zilly weapon".

Wasn't expecting the Zillybots, and no idea what's up with them. I mean I wasn't sure what they might do with the original Sawtooth and Squarewave to begin with, and now they're got two extras to also have a mysterious purpose of some sort.

Also, I expect a Zillyhorse (Zillyhoof?), because horses.

>>71375
I think it's around the same tier, maybe more powerful due to being more of a custom weapon, but not directly connected to Cherubic legend.

>>71379
She might end up wanting to take a break from using any candylike weapons for a bit once she's back to normal.

>>71387
>I hope each kid alchemizes their zilliyweapon with something to make them more personal, like John's pop-a-matic vrillyhoo warhammer or whatever it's called

Maybe the beta kids could alchemise their associated Zilly weapon with the ultimate weapon of their patron trolls. Dave gets a Zilly-Dragon head sword, Rose get some Zilly-chainsaw needles, and Jade gets a Zilly-Gunsickle.

Oh glob what is going on anymore even.

what if

what if it turns out all of homestuck was just a dream

Oh glob what is going on anymore even.

So....are we Caliborn now? Is that what's happening?

>>71395
If Homestuck was just a dream, the hypothetical dream within a dream that is the trickster episode would still have happened, because it appears that Jade has come to in the core of Prospit after a crazy juju bender.

We later zoom out to see that everything occurred inside John's computer, a video game simulation of what would happen if said video game had magic powers. Then he dies from eating too much cake or something because that part was real.

Didn't Hussie say when the ultimate juju is activated, it affects all of Homestuck? Jane doesn't have any seer powers, so somehow on some other timeline that all actually happened and has ramifications somehow.

well thank goodness that's over

>>71401
What are you gonna do if it turns out she does have seer powers

Just askin'

Oh god, this is how they're going to go god tier, isn't it?

DYING S A HELL OF A WAY TO SOBER UP

I can see why LE would want to kill everyone in Homestuck.
He's read it.

>>71405

Yep

>>71401
I'm pretty sure it's implied that no, it happened on the alpha timeline.
"Let's not speak of this again" is the same thing that happened with Rose's grimdark storyline. It happened, but no one mentions it ever

Also those chains in the background of the latest page makes it seem like she didn't literally go back to Act whatever, but instead just reverted to normal Jane from Act whatever

>>71407
Yeah, she's in the center of Prospit's moon. So she must've gotten there somehow. And the state of her hair also makes it pretty obvious that something has happened.

>>71408
Probably killed the other kids on their crypt beds...or something.
More importantly, if this was all a trance then what was everyone else seeing? Cal looked pretty impressed, and gamzee, for all his mirth, was unsettled at times.

>>71407
>>71408
I think so too, though I wonder if Caliborn doesn't realize that and thinks trickster mode really un-happened, or if he just refuses to not speak of all that stuff he thought was so cool. Also, I figure if we really went back an act we'd have seen the curtain thing again.

>>71409
oh
oooh
what if jane killed the others and helped them ascend... except that wasn't the challenge at all. rose went grimdark, died and gained full insight of the consequences of her actions (which is seer of light stuff) before ascending.
jane's REAL challenge before ascending as a maid of life will be to kill *herself*

>Besides, trickster mode was getting obnoxious.
Honestly, it seemed to be getting pretty good. With crazy piles of junk getting made, stories about the history of the hilariously dumb legendary world, and the prospect of some sort of overpowered adventure shenanigans on the horizon, I was looking forward to seeing a few more pages of the stuff. Jane not being able to remember anything past rolling around in Zilly Santas is funny, though.

Is that.....Meenah's balcony?

Blah, curse the lack of an [S] on that page. I had my speakers turned up really loud and that banging took me totally by surprise.

wait
so we're returning to trickster world and act 6 act 5 act 2?
i can't imagine how jane will look the next time we see her :(

>>71415
I don't think we will. Caliborn might be getting his way on something, but only after the subject changed to what Caliborn's session needs to progress. So we'll probably follow him around for a bit next.

>>71413
Hussie got his horse, after all.

Man, this is so meta.
It's like whenever there's a dream sequence in Prequel.

>>71422
It's all Prequel's fault. Hussie detected another adventure comic muscling in on Homestuck's territory and decided he had to outdo the competition. Now all we need is a fan adventure explaining Hussie's narrator abilities and blank white eyes in terms of Sburb powers, and the cycle of madness will be complete.

>>71423
the blank white eyes is because lord english killed him

>>71424
but they were blank white even before he was killed?

>>71423
>>71426
Dead people and Hussie are both "outside of canon" but not really?

>>71426
>>71427
Hussie's been dead since before the story began. All of the updates we've seen, as well as all the blog posts and responses to fan questions, were pre-recorded.

This is all very silly.

No. Wait.

Make that : this is all very zilly.

>>71428
At the end we get a callback to Sixth Sense because hussie was a ghost the whole fucking time.

>I guess it falls on me to teach you these life lessons, because as unpleasant as the idea is for both of us, I am the closest thing you will ever have to a father.
>You see, teenagers [humans] are sensitive and beautiful creatures.
>Well, not you. You are repulsive.

Hussie is like God and Caliborn is like Satan.

SYMBOLISM.

So Jane was doing those random happy cherubs a favor by Zillycalifying them? What about those poor horrorterrors? :(

>>71431
Whenever bad shit happens it's always God doing it though. Satan just wanted people to be able to think for themselves. So you've got it backwards, Caliborn is God, Hussie is Satan.

That actually works better than it should since Caliborn's denizen is Yaldabaoth, who is basically the Christian God except in Gnosticism he is just a petty dick with delusions of grandeur, and there is a dude above him who is the real God.

For an atheist Hussie sure likes inserting a bunch of religious mythos into the story.

>>71434
Not that unusual. A lot of atheists find mythology fascinating. It's no different from a person who doesn't believe in dragons putting dragons all up in a story they're writing, really, except that some people are Very Concerned about how you're treating their dragon.

>>71433
>Satan just wanted people to be able to think for themselves.

That's a very "Paradise Lost"-ish interpretation, but in the text of the bible itself Satan is really just an asshole who likes to fuck stuff up.

Switching the God/Satan roles with Hussie and Caliborn would also make the father-son/creator-creation parallel make no sense, as Satan didn't create God. As for Yaldabaoth, wouldn't it make more sense for Satan's boss to be God than for God to fight . . . well, God?

>>71435
>A lot of atheists find mythology fascinating.

Ironic but true.

>>71439
>"Paradise Lost"-ish
Actually no. Satan in Paradise Lost is a huge crybaby who's good at manipulating people, and the fact that so many people (aka teens) think he's the good guy shows that 1) people are stupid, 2) he really is a manipulative bastard and 3) they already had some atheist/"he's just misunderstood"/fangirl thing going on.

...
But that's not really what we're discussing, is it

>>71440
>Satan's fangirls
You just know they'd ship him with God in no time flat

>>71434
>>71435
Hussie also compared time travel to religion on his formspring, but he has that in his story as well.

And just like with the first batch of kids, we get to see some character development before they all go god tier.

Gotta say I'm really liking this screen x2 thing.

what wonderful children

>>71444
It a way, it reminds me of playing a DS for the first time.

In a way.

...

those cracked quest slabs would make great phone cases

>>71447
Hmm...

so who thinks we're getting a dual screen flash soon? The meteor coming in on the left, battleship coming in on the right

>>71451
yeah, that definitely seems possible
it would be pretty wide, though
right now, the dual screen thing is made to work on narrower monitors as well, with the link on the left side

>>71439
Didn't Caliborn say he was going to be the reason everything happened, even if he had to do it retroactively? If he succeeds in doing that he will be the reason why the narrator exists too, so he is the creator's creator. Or at least, he takes credit for it, despite hating everything that he "created." That's some demiurge shit right there.

In standard fare Christianity you have God and Satan. In Gnosticism though you have Yaldabaoth (who is both the Christian God and Satan in one character) who thinks he is hot shit, and Abraxas (no parallel in Christianity) who is the ultimate creator and higher in the hierarchy than Yaldabaoth, even though Yaldabaoth thinks of himself as the top dog. Since we haven't actually seen anything relating to Christianity but have solid references to Gnosticism I think God and Satan parallels to the narrator & Caliborn are a bit out of whack.

>>71454
Wrong, there a lot of references to Christianity, like the Sufferer. Even if we didn't Hussie is not a gnosticist (sp?) and he is not trying to convert people with a webcomic. You're reading too much into it

>>71459
Who said anything about conversion??? Am I missing part of the conversation here or what

>>71459
The Sufferer is really the only overtly Christianity-inspired story element that leaps to my mind. Homestuck's mythology seems to be more of a hodge-podge of various religious concepts.

>the entire Trickster arc

Last night I dreamed Homestuck was a musical. Like, pretty much the same as it is now, but some of the flashes had the characters singing. In the dream I was really excited, because Jade's introductory number had been disappointing but she had finally gotten a REALLY GOOD SONG, practically out of nowhere.

There was a lot more but that was the gist of it. :I sage for stupid

And then everyone was fucked.

Again!

>>71478
Last night I dreamed that Hussie made a flash that explained a ton of ludicrous backstory about the cherubs, except instead of an animated movie thing it was a wall of text overlaid on illustrated backgrounds and you had to scroll using buttons in the flash itself to get to the bottom (and the link to the next page) and it went really slowly and everybody was mad and people from tumblr and HSG got together to cover his house in dildos

I've missed Slick so much, you guys. SO MUCH.

Muthafuckin' Jack Noir back in this bitch! Shit's finally about to get real again.

You're doing it wrong, Jack.

YES

PERFECT

if there doesn't end up being a Jack English/ Bec Noir / Spades Slick 3x showdown combo at some point, I'm gonna be upset.

And also, I like the paralleling of Jack going overboard on both the humans sessions. Jack's still the cancer in this session too I guess.

holy shit this is awesome

I for one welcome the new shipname of Breathalyzer. I don't really care for shipping outside of a couple major ships, but it would be cute if those two actually do get together and bond over their funny relationship parallels.

the style of these updates reminds me so much of tumblr photosets, and i don't mean that as a negative.

>>71491
look again

I know it's a little minor in regards to Jack's rainbow explosion, but...

Did DD really send all his paperwork to Prospit

What's going on here?
Is English summoning himself in the teens universe via Jack?

>>71494
I don't think it's entirely clear if what's going on here is the same thing that happened in the second intermission or if Jack's "just" being turned into a kind of remote-controlled avatar.

>>71494
Lord English was Jack all along.

i'm thinking this time majyyk thing is how caliborn controls people
i mean both the handmaid and the condesce have access to it and they're subordinate to him, the same now goes for jack

maybe lil' cal could do this all along, to different degrees? dave and dirk wear shades so they were protected, but rose threw him out a window (and she's pro-horrorterror) and the only other people who ever laid their eyes on the "genuine" doll are kanaya (who has a connection to scratch), aradia (and we know how that went) and gamzee (who's batshit crazy already)

>>71492
so THAT's why the horizontal spaces between the frames aren't the same colours as the vertical ones

I told you Lord English was a fucking indestructible puppet. Caliborn's soul is what will power up Lil Cal in the future. Lord English stole Caliborn's body and connected it to the Green Sun.

>>71501
Nigga Caliborn is Lord English.
Shit, isn't there a page where the narrator actually says ''it is not completely obvious to everyone that you are Lord Englis"?

>>71501
You've seriously got it backwards. Caliborn DIRECTLY STATED that Lil' Cal contains Caliborn's soul, not vice-versa.

>>71506
Lord English is using Caliborn's soul to power it up.

so I'm guessing the flash is gonna be Jack: Ascend for him climbing the chain of prospit and annhilating the fuck out of it.

Poor prospit. It always gets blown up first.

>>71527
he is on prospit already, the moon is in the background
i think he'll just blow it the fuck up before going to derse and duking it out with the condesce

And that is how you end multiple conversations at once.

Oh SNAP! Admittedly, I kind of hope this returns the screens back to normal...

i wonder what plans the Condensence and Jack have in mind after the kids go god tier
i feel there's more to is than just trying to kill them again
or am i wrong?

>>71531
Well we know that the Condesce wanted Roxy to do something for her so making her go God Tier was probably part of the plan.

And I support the theory that Caliborn is using Jack to act as a catalyst for the God Tiering since

A) They're stalling and he wants to move the story along and be the cause of all the stuff that goes down

and

B) He wants Jake to challenge him at his best

>>71531
>>71532
Yeah, i think Jack is probably just killing them because he likes killing things. But Caliborn probably manipulated him into killing them because he wants them to go tiger. Possibly because he wants to beat them while they're at the best, but I haven't ruled out the possibility that there's something else going on that he hasn't made us privy to yet. He's stupid, but he's clever-stupid. He might be pulling a "Psyche, that's not my king, that's my bishop!" here.