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73025 No. 73025
>Rock Lee Spinoff show promo is aired
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-03-20/naruto-rock-lee-spinoff-tv-anime-promo-streamed
>Rock Lee gets his own show
>It's chibi art-style
>It's a comedy/gag show
>I have no image to express my sad feels right now
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>> No. 73026
Have you seen the Springtime of Youth manga? It's great. It's like they took everything that was good about Naruto and none of what was bad about it and turned it into a manga.
>> No. 73027
>>73026
I have not. Is it published in the US or do I need scanlations?
>> No. 73028
>>73027
Mangastream should have it all up or at least a good deal of it.
>> No. 73031
>>73025
Hinata looks fine in Ino's clothes.
>> No. 73032
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73032
Fuck yeah Kabuto.

He don't need no shitting ET to kick ass.
>> No. 73034
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73034
>>73025
I can't believe you haven't heard of Springtime of Youth yet, or how awesome it is.

Pfft, it's better than the manga that spawned it.
>> No. 73037
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73037
Any time Sasuke is well written from this point hence, he will be referred to as Dr. Snakes
>> No. 73038
>>73037
Man they've got two wanked-out sharinigan users staring at him right now, is he doing something to prevent them from destrying him in a massive optical-ejaculation?
>> No. 73039
>>73038
Yeah....he put his hood over his eyes...
>> No. 73042
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73042
>>73039
Bah as if Genjutsu is even needed for the sharinigan to onshot you anymore.
>> No. 73043
Haha, Evil Sage Mode, nice.
>> No. 73045
Fuck you, I'm a dragon!
>> No. 73046
>>73037
So...Dr Snakes/Sasuke = Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde
>> No. 73047
Unless Kabuto can turn off Itachi, I don't see how he can win this.
DOUBLE SUSANOO/Amaterasu
Also, I would instantly start liking Naruto again if Sasuke became DR SNAKES,PHD and went around battling ninja snakes.
>> No. 73048
>>73047
You mean...if he fought SSSSSSSSSSSShinobi?
Damn i'm good.
>> No. 73053
I'M DOC

DOC

DOCTAH SNAKES
>> No. 73054
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73054
WAIT

WAIT DOESN'T THAT MEAN SHE'S RELATED TO NARUTO?!
>> No. 73055
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73055
PIMP SNAKE
>> No. 73056
Doctor... snakes...

what the... I can't even...

Is this a joke translation? I mean I certainly don't mind if it is.
>> No. 73057
>>73056
It's not a good translation, but it does have gist.

Truly Doctor Snakes may end up redeeming the awful stain of Sasuke.
>> No. 73058
>>73056
You're just jealous you never got your PHD in Herpetology.
>> No. 73059
>>73058

If I had, maybe I could actually get a job

But seriously between Doctor Snakes and Sage Pimp Snake this was the most hilarious Naruto chapter yet
>> No. 73063
>>73054
Fucking everyone is related to Naruto, from all the inbreeding his faimly was into.
>> No. 73066
>I trained at the Ryuchi-dou
>It's as famous as Myoubokuzan and Shikkotzurin
>Watashi-sama-tachi
I didn't know TV-Nihon did mangas too.
>> No. 73067
Rock Lee is my favorite character from the original, but I've been out of the Naruto fandom for so long that I had no idea the Springtime of Youth manga existed, nor that it was getting an anime adaptation. I am intrigued and will start reading the manga/watching the anime.

>>73054
>All Uzumakis have red hair
>Naruto is blonde
Um, what?
>> No. 73068
>>73067
>Naruto is blonde

Kakashi has been dying his hair while he sleeps.
>> No. 73069
>>73067
His real name is Namikaze Naruto, but they used his mother's maiden name in order to protect him from Minato's enemies. who would come after him.

So he's a Namikaze, not a Uzumaki.
>> No. 73072
>>73069

Technically yes, but genetics don't follow patrilineal naming conventions.
>> No. 73073
>>73072
And Naruto has Namikaze genetics, not just Uzumaki. Clearly the Kamikaze hair color took priority over Uzumaki's recessive genes.
>> No. 73075
>>73073

Which is what makes the claim that all Uzumakis have red hair so very, very silly. Unless the red hair is carried on the Y chromosome, I guess, but then you couldn't have girl Uzumakis and that's two out of three.
>> No. 73077
>>73075

This is the same manga that has entire clans with special eyes that are limited to only their families, and yet there's little to no evidence of either inbreeding or inter-marriage with people from the outside. Genetics ain't this author's strong-suit.
>> No. 73078
Maybe what was meant was "all red-heads are Uzumakis."
>> No. 73079
>>73074
Well her 'strong lifeforce' is what makes her a useful healthkit no doubt, and will likely allow her to have strong masculine children in the future.
>> No. 73080
>>73074

I'm sure Dr. Snakes had a lot to do with that.

Who'd have ever thought we'd actually find a chapter like this entertaining?
>> No. 73081
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73081
so this happened
>> No. 73083
This chapter was way too fucking fun. This manga is still terrible but goddamn.
>> No. 73086
You know, Kurama has red hair, that means he's an Uzumaki, too!
>> No. 73088
>>73081
Will this be enough to make him tolerable again?

Only Time will tell.
>> No. 73091
Jesus Christ, I laughed way too fucking hard at this chapter
Please be a sign of things to come.
>> No. 73093
>>73081
Super Doctor Wars? I would read it.
>> No. 73098
>>73093
make it so!
>> No. 73099
Why is Itachi suddenly so full of puns and humor?? Did all those years of repressing his true self into a horrible, vengeful person bottle up his childhood jest, only for it to be unleashed after his death? I swear, the man has become Naruto's stand-up comedian!

Also, apparantly all people with red hair are from the Uzumaki clan. I STILL THINK that Sakura's pink hair has something to do with that, and I suspect that her mother may be an Uzumaki; and subtracting pink from red gives white... which means it's possible that Jiraya (or someone else with white hair... I can't think of any others) could be her father.

Wouldn't that be a trip? Also, this may explain why Kishimoto is so insistant to sink Naruto/Sakura in favor of Naruto/Hinata: Sakura is sort-of related to him.
>> No. 73101
I wonder if the slugs have a sage mode, too.
>> No. 73112
>>73099
I just realized, Sakura is the only one of the Rookie Nine who's parents we've never seen.
>> No. 73113
>>73112
IIRC they're also the only ones who aren't ninja themselves.

If it were any other writer, I'd think their lack of appearance was relevant, but this is Kishimoto so...
>> No. 73118
>>73099
Now that the whole "turn my brother into an avenger" thing is over, he doesn't have to be so stoic anymore.

>>73078
Quick! Someone go through the anime and find all the red-heads you can!

>>73101
If snakes have one, then slugs would probably have one too.
>> No. 73119
>>73099

He probably isn't, really, it's just a goofy translation.
>> No. 73124
I want to know what the fuck he IS saying. I doubt it's "Dr Snakes" but then what the fuck made them translate it like that?
>> No. 73125
Itachi's thought process
>Wow Sasuke sure knows a lot about snakes
>shit, i forgot how to be a brother, shit
>"Yeah...sweet snake info...Doctor Snakes"
>Yes, I am the best brother ever.
>> No. 73127
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73127
Aww, no animated version of the giant armadillo penis. I was so looking forward to that.

Of course, that begs the question... why did they still insist it's a male when it's clearly packing nothing between the legs??
>> No. 73132
>>73124
I'd need to see the raw, but maybe hebi-hakase? (snake expert.. or snake professor if you want)
>> No. 73133
>>73099
>subtracting pink from red gives white

GENETICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOODNIGHT

Almost as bad as all those awful fanfics where people think Hyuuga x Uchiha = 1 Sharingan and 1 Byakugan
>> No. 73134
>>73132

My google-fu is too weak to find a raw, but it did find people discussing the raw, and apparently it is hebi no hakase.
>> No. 73135
>>73133
>GENETICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOODNIGHT
Well, not with human hair, no. But there are actual genetics that work that way, like the color of azaleas.
>> No. 73136
>>73135
So ninjas are a race of men that evolved from flowers?
>> No. 73137
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73137
>>73133
>saying GENETICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY
>...in a Naruto thread
>> No. 73138
Well her name is Sakura
>> No. 73139
>Hyuuga x Uchiha = 1 Sharingan and 1 Byakugan

That reminds me of an old-school Naruto flash: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/296672

Hilarious. Also it reminds me of how much more awesome the music in Part 1 was.
>> No. 73146
>>73139
...wow. That flash pretty much summed up the entire series.
>> No. 73165
>>73139
Hahahaha, I actually remember that.
>> No. 73177
>>73139
Wow, that really was perfect.
>> No. 73196
>>73177
Very perfect. It even got the part where it took too damn long for anything to happen and I lost interest.

Kakashi explaining the missed punch was too hilarious.
>> No. 73206
>>73118
What about Gaara/Sasori/etc, they count?
>> No. 73233
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73233
Oh God, Doctor Snakes really was the key to making Sasuke moderately enjoyable.
>> No. 73234
Is anyone else weirded out that the snake is coming out of Kabuto's gut?

in b4 that's his dick
>> No. 73238
I can't even understand what's going on in this fight. They seem to be mostly just standing there and things explode.

Also what exactly is stopping Itachi from Genjutsuing Kabuto now?
>> No. 73240
>>73238

Snake thingy over his eyes.
>> No. 73332
>>73234
see
>>73042
>> No. 73401
>Izanami

Just couldn't resist giving the sharingan yet more hax, could you Kishi? Ugh.
>> No. 73402
>>73401

Jesus fucking Christ. I mean I'm not surprised, when was the last time you saw an Izanagi without an Izanami? Fucking never, that's when. But it's still fucking retarded.
>> No. 73404
I don't want to read Naruto, what does the latest bit of hax of the Uchia do?
>> No. 73405
>>73404

We don't know yet, Itachi just whipped it out on the last page.
>> No. 73411
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73411
>Another Uchia Eye Jutsu
>> No. 73415
Sasuke's entire dialogue this chapter (no exaggeration):

"?"
"........."
"........."
"...the truth."
"........."
"........."
"........."
"........."
"........."
*flashback scene*
"........."
"I'm not like you. My crushing of the leaf is just mine."
"........."
"........."
"?!"
"........."
"?!"
"...Izanagi...?"
"How do you use Izanagi?"
"Another one?"
"Izanami!?" !!


Sasuke just doesn't know what the fuck is going on. Neither do I.
>> No. 73422
>>73401
I really hope in the end, knocking some dirt in their eye is all it takes to disable them for a while.

"NOW NARUTO! I WILL DESTROY YOU AND KONOHA TO AVENGE MY BLOODLINE WITH MY HATE AND MY HATED BROTH- FUCK!!!! Fuck... ha-hang on, guys... fuck'n sand I ju- FUUUUUUCK! Ow... tits... screw it I'll do it next year."
>> No. 73423
>>73412

The only way I can see this not being shit is if it's bullshit, there's no such thing as Izanami, and Itachi's just trying to con Kabuto into opening his eyes so he can see it in action, appealing to his curiosity.
>> No. 73425
So basically, as long as Itachi remembers a japanese god's name, he can just make up bullshit techniques on the spot for his Sharingan.
>> No. 73427
>>73425

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_deities
>As it is often said that there are Yaoyorozu-no-Kami (八百万の神, lit. 8 million kami), which is a representation of an infinite number.

So Itachi has 8-million Sharingan powers. Nice.

I suspect, however, that Izanami will fail against Kabuto, which will force Itachi to use the greatest Sharingan power of all time: Inari. This will summon the little dude instantly, where he will then shoot Kabuto to death with one shot from his tiny crossbow, which for this occasion is revealed to be the great weapon of the Sage: "The Noisy Cricket".
>> No. 73431
Well, honestly, I was wondering when they were going to bring up the Izanami and Izanagi thing. Half the characters, attack names, and bijuu are based of, or named, directly after Japanese shinto gods or old legendary stories.

If anyone is sick of it now, there's still dozens more Kishi can, and probably will, go with.
>> No. 73469
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73469
This is why I loathe computers, and everything they've done to how lazy-as-hell animators create media.

Ten years later... and the animation looks worse: cartoony, depthless, flat-colored. Ugh.
>> No. 73474
>>73469

Yeah, that's called "the Naruto anime is terrible' not computers, bro.
>> No. 73475
>>73469
Even in anime, cartoons have been computer-colored since like 1980, dude.
>> No. 73498
>>73469
Shounen have had crappy animation since forever ago. It's the hazard of having to make a new episode every single week no matter what.

Of course, I do agree that in the past decade character designs have gotten progressively lazier. It's one of the reasons I can't watch new episodes of Chibi Maruko-chan anymore.
>> No. 73685
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73685
Hang on, are these women literally nuns? That's kind of setting-incongruous.
>> No. 73687
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73687
>>73685

There were Shinto Nuns, too. Not all religous women were Shrine Maiden.
>> No. 73688
Oh god, is this Kabuto's depressing back story being told?
>> No. 73690
>>73687

They appear to be wearing a christian nun's habit (or at least the head-and-neck portions of it) is what I meant.
>> No. 73691
>>73688
It's not that depressing, really. I just hope this isn't leading up to a shocking revelation of who his parents really were or anything. That'd be a pain.
>> No. 73696
Man did Orichimaru fuck up. All that time wasted trying to be immortal, and all he really needed was a jutsu that erases any memory of a tragic past, because if you don't have that to reflect on and/or explain to your enemy during a climactic fight, YOU'LL NEVER FUCKING DIE!
>> No. 73711
>>73687
As someone who knows fuck all about shinto, I'd like to know: what is the difference?
>> No. 73715
Okay, what the fuck? Did I miss a chapter?? Itachi was about to unveil his brand-spanking new ultimate Sharingan Jutsu, Izanami, and then... it just didn't happen.

Kabuto: I countered it with Flashback no Jutsu.

Oh, please, everyone in the Naruto-verse can use that.

Kabuto: But that's not all! I added in Orphan no Jutsu, Lost Cause no Jutsu, and Depressing Childhood no Jutsu!!!

Sasuke: So you're like a slightly better-off version of Naruto?

Itachi (ala Kelso): OH! BURN!!!
>> No. 73716
Remember the coda, guys.

>Flashback = Death

Now then, a good outcome would be Orochimaru suddenly taking over his body. That would be the shit. Shit as in "good", not shit as in "this entire arc".
>> No. 73927
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73927
WELL GEE I DON'T KNOW.
>> No. 73933
Is it just me, or did they jus imply that Orochimaru was involved in Root? Is there no aspect of this world that Kishimoto won't shove Danzo's useless wrinkled ass into?
>> No. 73934
>>73715
His fate's already been decided.
>> No. 73942
>>73933

Probably all of the high-level shinobi in Konoha have been involved in ANBU or Root at one time or another.

In fact, I'm surprised that none of the younger characters are in ANBU. Neji's a freaking jounin... he should be at least.
>> No. 73943
Didn't we go over this bullshit with Yashamaru already?
>> No. 73953
>>73942

Clearly he's smart enough to know that the instant you put on an ANBU mask, you become totally useless.
>> No. 74283
Has Naruto became so bad no one comments on it anymore?
>> No. 74286
The animes are doing flashback-style fillers of the history between Naruto and Sasuke. So nothing new, there.

The manga was ALSO all flashbacks, and nothing of it really mattered to advance the plot, neither was any of it things we didn't know (or couldn't imply) from Kabuto's past. Although, that panel of him and Orochimaru seen through a beaker slowing filling with drops of blood was pretty awesome. It's been a while since I've seen a nice panel like that.
>> No. 74287
>>74286
The last few chapters have been flashbacks in which not a lot of new and/or particularly interesting information has turned up, so there's really just not much to talk about.
>> No. 74290
Kabuto should just write down his identity with his Ninja Info Cards.
>> No. 74291
I wish they'd make another hot springs episode. The haven't done one of those in a while.
>> No. 74450
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>>74283
Logical fallacy. I just don't come here for Naruto discussion given the clear bias of people on this board.
>>74291
Here ya go
>> No. 74452
>>74286
Doesn't even look like it's new animation; they're even using one of the openings from the previous series. Skipped.
>> No. 74525
>>74450

hnnnnnng
>> No. 74535
>>74450
Tenten is pretty stacked as a chibi
>> No. 74579
>>74450
Saying something is bad when it is bad is not a bias, it's called a statement.

So anyway how is the Springtime of Youth anime, any good?
>> No. 74656
Latest chapter

>It does mean something.

Wow, I actually got some feels outta that. What form!
>> No. 74698
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74698
Haha just got shown this.

This random shopkeeper owns the only gun in the Naruto universe.
>> No. 74710
>gun in the Naruto universe

It probably shoots kunai via some kind of spring-loaded mechanism, like those giant machine-gun types on the train in the first movie.
>> No. 74711
>>74710
Or it's basic muzzle load, they have explosives after all, it's not like guns are some complex crazy deal.

The way I look at it the existence of crazy ninja magic and super strength with which to throw things simply makes a dependence on conventional warfare obsolete.

For instance, instead of robots or assembly arms they can use dolls for manufacture.
>> No. 74715
>>74711

There really isn't anything preventing them from doing it, in theory; it's just a thematic choice. Just as there aren't any guns in Harry Potter, there aren't any guns in Naruto, because the creator didn't WANT them there. It's tough to imagine even a superpowered ninja or a wizard being able to stand up to a unit of soldiers armed with something basic like muskets, to say nothing of modern weaponry, especially because their techniques are not FOR fighting soldiers with guns, but other ninja/wizards.

So, I would say you actually have it backwards, at least in reference to how real-world history happened. Modern, conventional warfare renders the "specialist" warrior (such as knights or samurai) obsolete because it does not require special skills or training to operate a firearm.

I mean, if the 100,000 white zetsu had GUNS... holy shit, the shinobi army would have no chance.
>> No. 74716
>>74711
Dolls need to be manipulated, it can let one extremely skilled ninja operator do the work of many but its not really close to the efficency of an assembly line

And that singular gun seems to be a mistake if anything, if guns existed in this world its likely we would have seen at least one in the hands of bandits and criminals, like when that midget mafia don brings all his soldiers to finish off the weakened Konoha ninjas and Zabuza in a double-cross.
Things would have been pretty bad for them even if it had only been muskets.

(Plus Kishi has jokingly stated if guns existed in his world there'd be non need for ninja, so thats further proof this is just an error)
>> No. 74718
>>74715
Well guns DO exist in harry potter since the muggle part is similar to our world, and she's even said in a straight-up fight a dude with a shotgun > wizard, it just doesn't come up in the books because its focused on the wizarding world.
Closest you get is the Centuars in the big battle of the last book and thier bows.
>> No. 74722
>>74698
I really miss Sakura's long hair.
>> No. 74762
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74762
So with Bleach dead how much more do you think Naruto has left in it?
>> No. 74770
>>74762

This war arc seems like the it's going to be the last arc. I don't see how it could possibly go on any more after that; but however long it will take to finish the arc is anyone's guess.
>> No. 74829
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>>73411
It's time loop powers!
>> No. 74836
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74836
>>74829
NO TIKI

IT'S AN INFINITE MIND LOOP
>> No. 74837
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74837
>>74836
Dear God!
>> No. 74839
>>73711

I can't believe I only barely saw this question, but I have to admit now that Shinto nuns might well just be shrine maiden and the nuns I actually thought about were Taoist nuns who tend to look pretty different for the most part (the big thing being the hood/habit.) I'm sure there's non-Christian historical examples out there, Kishimoto, for all his flaws, doesn't strike me as the guy to borrow from a totally separate culture now after so many years of using Japanese mythology.

>>74718

I like pretending that after Harry becomes an Auror, his main weapons are his wand and a shotgun full of rock salt. He purposefully holds it wrong the first few months so when a wizard gets the drop on him, he can say "there, it's not pointing at you anymore" then <i>ka-blam.</i> Rock salt.*


*I know, rubber pellets work better, but rock salt sounds more silly and pointlessly brutal.

>>74836

So...it's what Kurama did to the Elder Toguro brother at the end of the Chapter Black arc?

Actually, I'm starting to wonder about Kishimoto's creative connection to Yu Yu Hakusho, especially after the Atsui-getting-trapped-by-a-word-game bit a few months back.

This one instance is at least pretty different. The Elder Toguro was trapped in a hell where he couldn't kill Kurama at all, no matter how much he tried. This is a time loop inside Kabuto's brain.
>> No. 74846
I think what's going on is that they're repeating that moment in time until Kabuto's "fate" matches Itachi's ideal. That is to say, that moment is going to repeat until Itachi gets his desired outcome, Kabuto's defeat.

Maybe.
>> No. 74848
>>74839

If you haven't noticed the DOZENS of plotlines, characters, and techniques ripped off from either YuYu Hakusho or HunterxHunter... dude, you're just not trying. It's almost painfully obvious. I haven't read Level-E yet, but considering Kishimoto's habit of stealing stuff from Togashi's manga, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more.

It's a common joke that Naruto's quality goes down whenever HxH goes on hiatus.
>> No. 74849
>>74846

But he's looping back to a point after Kabuto covered his eyes. So that'll never happen (unless Kabuto gives up or something).
>> No. 74862
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74862
Was watching the newest Naruto movie...

This random guard has a gun. WTF?
>> No. 74864
>>74862
There's a secret society of gun-wielding illumanati in the Naruto universe, watching and manipulating the politics of the Daimyo and shinobi from behind the scenes.

They are the true final boseses that the current ones are working for, suddenly Gun-fu cowboys and red coats out of nowhere!
>> No. 74871
>>74864
In a surprise ending Naruto is finally killed by a stray cannon ball fired by invading westerners. They didn't know anything about what a ninja was but he looked like a dirty heathen so they made bloody well sure he was straightened out before they talked to the rest of the savages.
>> No. 74972
>>74871

"Fella was wearin' an orange jumpsuit, don'tchaknow. Had to sort him out before he started giving our men funny ideas, what."
>> No. 75005
Has there been anymore chapters of the Springtime of Youth?
>> No. 75035
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75035
>>75005

Why yes, there has!
>> No. 75051
>>75035
>Sakura barefoot in a bikini

This needs to happen more often.
>> No. 75163
>>75051
The bottom floor of the body might be your fetish but flat-chested Sakura isn't awesome no matter how shoeless.
>> No. 75181
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>>75035
>>75163
They gave her boobies in the anime version
>> No. 75182
>>75181
Pretty sure this and >>75005 are different storylines
>> No. 75218
Fuck you sharingan. If you're so stupid powerful and everyone knows it, why don't you fucking retcon a little harder so I can believe you. Itachi killing his entire clan with just his normal mangekyou while all this other village destroying garbage is possible?

quit it.

i don't believe anything ever.
>> No. 75323
I think Kishi is slightly forgetting his own canon. Madara can't possibly be so ridiculously overpowered because he was defeated by the first Hokage (and presumably killed or died shortly thereafter, because he was revived in his prime, indicating he died in his prime) unless we want to imply that Hashirama was ALSO ridiculously overpowered. How, I don't know. I certainly don't think he beat the WTFHAX-Super-Saiyan-Susanoo with his goddamn trees.

I just don't like it that Kishimoto is trying to have it both ways in regard to generational power levels. He goes out of his way to showcase how each current generation is stronger and better than the previous; and then he tosses in a few old guys who are somehow more powerful than anyone. It's reminding me of Dragonball Z at this point: all the hype is put on Gohan, Goten, and Trunks (the new generation) as being of greater potential, but when push comes to shove, it's somehow Goku (the old generation) who ends up pulling more power out of freaking nowhere. Same thing with Itachi and Sasuke. Sasuke is supposed to have exceeded Itachi in every possible way, showcasing his growth and legitimizing his spot as a major villian, even beating Itachi in a one-on-one battle. But Itachi was actually dying of tuburculosis or something and at like 1% of his former strength, which was the only reason Sasuke won; and then it's Itachi who beats Kabuto in the end using another Sharingan jutsu while Sasuke just stands there, uselessly, being shocked at the goings-on and unable to fight on that level.

And now, when five kages can't even come close to beating a guy that was once beaten by ONE kage (and who hasn't gotten any more powerful since then because he was DEAD) it's gotten ridiculous. I'm not complaining about ridiculous shounen power-levels — I expect that; I'm complaining about the bizzare choice to make people from ancient history so overpowered, which flies in the face of shounen convention of having the youngsters be the most powerful ones. There are better ways of giving advantages to the villains other than pulling random stuff out of nowhere that (if not outright destroys) conflicts with established canon.

At this point, I'm half-expecting the Sage of Six Paths to show up with Original-Pure-Form Rinnesharibyakugan: I'm The Precursor, Bitches, no Jutsu which can cause anyone to disentigrate just by looking in their general direction. I mean, really, it's the only logical conclusion when each PREVIOUS generation is at least five times more powerful than the next.
>> No. 75324
>>75323

I'll also chip in that the 'every generation gets stronger' thing was already voided before this in the skipped generation Kakashi was a part of, which in no way seemed to surpass the 4th's.
>> No. 75325
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>>74871
>>74972
Attack of the Outlanders

>>75323
He also crapped all over the theme that hard work surpasses genius, the only way you can be worth a damm in the big leagues is to be from a noble bloodline of genius Ninja that passed on thier superior genetics/special moves to you.
>> No. 75326
>>75325
It would be for the best ending moral to the whole convoluted mess. "Hard work cannot surpass superior genetics as much as superior genetics will always lose to overwhelming fire power."

Ninjas get nuked, kishi inserts some weird nationalism into his character massacres and everyone who hates sharigan will laugh as early 20th century soldiers gun down every last eye hacker or beast user around.
>> No. 75327
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>>75325
>He also crapped all over the theme that hard work surpasses genius

He never was not crapping all over that theme. We have Naruto, the nominal protagonist, whose is special because he has a giant power battery he did nothing to earn. Then we have Sasuke, the pretty-much-actual protagonist, who is special because bloodlinesbloodlinesbloodlines, which he also did nothing to earn. Even when Naruto beat geniuses like Gaara and Neji, it was with the help of his super special ninetales chakra.

The entire bloodline clan power thing pretty much says some people are just born with special powers and no amount of hard work will get you where they are.

In a better world, Rock Lee would be the protagonist.
>> No. 75331
>>75327

Even ROCK LEE being the face of the whole "power of hard work" was destroyed during his battle with Gaara in the Chuunin Exams, when Kakashi commented that his ability to open several Chakra Gates at his age is not something one can do just by hard work alone. Seeing how it's Kakashi speaking, I'd be inclined to believe him.

So Rock Lee was born talented, too, just in his own special way. I mean, really, there is almost nobody in the series who isn't either blessed with a supreme talent from birth, born into a special bloodline or family, or has a special jutsu passed down in their clan.

Except Sakura. She literally has nothing. I wouldn't even say her much-ado-about-nothing "good at controlling her chakra" should be considered special, seeing how that turned out to be completely pointless when people like Naruto and Sasuke (and basically everyone else) can just ignore their inefficiency by having nigh-inexhastible amounts of chakra in the first place.

Then again, there are very few fantasy stories which feature characters that are totally ordinary in every way. There wouldn't be much of a story at all, or they'd just end up getting dragged around by the other, more "special" characters.
>> No. 75333
>>75331
It's not impossible for someone to succeed in other stories by the power of hard work, even when they have neat abilities at thier disposal.

In Naruto it's more about the superiority of noble blood over the commoners, even Naruto has been revealed to not only be the son of a Ninja Leader but descended from a fancy clan.
>> No. 75334
>>75331
>Even ROCK LEE being the face of the whole "power of hard work" was destroyed during his battle with Gaara in the Chuunin Exams, when Kakashi commented that his ability to open several Chakra Gates at his age is not something one can do just by hard work alone. Seeing how it's Kakashi speaking, I'd be inclined to believe him.

I figured that was tying in with Gai calling Lee a 'genius of hard work'.

Anyway, while Kishi's always shit over that theme, he used to at least try. But what's really a travesty is the way he utterly gutted the theme that 'nobody is born a loser' which he set up greatly in the Neji fight. Like we're talking Oliver Twist levels of gutting-by-retcon.
>> No. 75335
>>75331
>Then again, there are very few fantasy stories which feature characters that are totally ordinary in every way.

It's not the specialness in Naruto that irks me, it's the totally exclusive access to said specialness. How kickass you are in Naruto depends entirely on which vagina you got pushed out of as a baby, which is just generally a shitty value to espouse to kids. Take, like, One Piece as a counter - sure, a character can eat a fruit that makes them super special, but so can anyone else if they can find one, and there's people out there who are just as strong without one.

I feel the same way about that super special Saiyan blood that turned every non-Saiyan character worthless and Harry Potter's whole "some people are just ~naturally~ special and magical and those dumb ignorant muggles just won't ever be able to ~understand~ your specialness because you are just so very, very special" appeal that gets its audience into a tizzy.

Like >>75333 pointed out, it creates this sort of sick dichotomy between the master race and the proles, even if it never goes as far as to explore it in depth.
>> No. 75336
>>75335
The HP world is doomed anyway, eventually the immortal Dementors will 'outbreed' and overwelm both sides of humanity with the wizarding world incapable of destroying them.
>> No. 75340
>>75334
I always thought that was just him applauding his student's tenacity and determination, at reaching so far into the realm of ability with only unyielding effort and relentless hard work, not a literal thing that he could only work thaty hard because he is a natural-born genius.

Though the fact he loses every fight he takes part in discounting stuff like movies and someone like Sasuke could match the speed he had been training his whole life to attain after only a month seems to indicate even being a 'genius of hard work' doesn't mean very much.
>> No. 75346
>>75340
I think that's more The Worf Effect than that Rock Lee isn't supposed to be strong. Kishi's just overused it so much that we've had nothing to remind us why someone beating Rock Lee was remarkable in the first place.
>> No. 75365
>>75340

Right, but I mean that Kakashi assumes that he must be some kind of genius, but no, the only thing he's a genius at is working himself to the bone.
>> No. 75376
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>>73365

But even still, his "genius" at working hard has given him a great deal. Despite his losses, he does contribute and does fight alongside the genetic-elites. You know what happens to the ninja who have absolutely NOTHING, not even an unnatural work-ethic?

They end up like the guy in my image. He was seen briefly attempting to take the Chuunin Exam — and apparantly failing the written portion as I don't recall seeing him in the Forest of Death — who is like 40 years old and still a genin (and not any good like that "eternal genin" from the filler episodes). He's an utter and total LOSER in this world, and even though I'm quite sure that he's of average strength and intelligence on purely human terms (possibly even toward the top as he DID manage to become a genin in the first place, and the world is loaded with civilians who couldn't even reach that level), he is worth absolutely NOTHING among superpowered ninja.

That guy is the face of all the "normal" people in the Naruto verse. Rock Lee isn't normal; this poor fellow is. He lost the superpower lottery and so he'll never amount to anything.
>> No. 75378
>>75376
Having some people win and some people lose by itself really shouldn't be a crime. At this point, I think the nitpicking of the dropped theme is going too far and coming off as assholish in the other direction.
>> No. 75379
>>75376
Why does your post link to the LoveHina thread?
>> No. 75442
http://helixxnebula.tumblr.com/post/24462952771/danithinksoddthings-thenoodledude

calling moe king tripfag
>> No. 75522
War's over guys. Let's all go home.

Sasuke: "I am still going to destroy Konoha!"

Ugh.
>> No. 75523
>>75522
Everyone left after the war needs to just line up to punt that little brat in the balls one after the other, knock some goddamned sense into him.
>> No. 75526
Dr. Snakes should forget his revenge and try to go further in his medical career.
>> No. 75536
>>75522
Wait the war's over? Madara, Kubuto and whoever else has been beaten?
...And now Sasuke want's to be the big bad and keep the series going?
>> No. 75539
>>75536
Itachi shut down the zombie-no-jutsu, meaning all the peeps raised from the dead are now double-dead, so yeah, Tobi's the only remaining threat, aside from Sasuke, but let's get real, Sasuke's not a real threat.
>> No. 75542
I wish this wasn't a shonen series so Sasuke wouldn't have to be mandatorily redeemed and they could just off the guy.
>> No. 75544
>>75542

Luckily for us, Redemption Equals Death is a thing, so there is hope yet that we won't be seeing the little fuck in the series' epilogue chapter, except as an unmarked gravestone that Naruto can sob over while Hinata strokes his arm tenderly through his Hokage robes.
>> No. 75556
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>> No. 75560
>>75544
Too bad both of them will be the last of the leaf village.
>> No. 75596
Nah, they'll both die.
Weren't you listening?
>> No. 75689
>>75596
>>75544
Really, the love story between Naruto and Sasuke is so much more believible than the one between him and Hinata, since It's recieved a hell of alot more development! hahahah

The messiah's love for the badboy is so deep and tragic ;_;
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Oh man, poor Naruto thread. No one really posts in you anymore.

Sympathy bump
>> No. 75831
>>75826

Both the anime and manga were skipped this week. Nothing really to discuss.

Anyone else watching the anime the last couple episodes reminded once again of how freaking awesome the first arc was?
>> No. 75884
>>75831
Is that filler or are we up to the point where Kurama is gushing over Naruto's entire life like he has a huge fox crush on him.
>> No. 75888
>>75884

Oh, hell no. The war's just barely started.
>> No. 75964
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>This week in Naruto
>> No. 75972
Look at the bright side, Itachi should be gone from the entire series by now. Though still no word on Madara himself and frankly I do not care. I just want this lame as fuck War Where No One Dies to end already. Its just as crappy as One Piece's Alabasta Civil War Where No One Dies.

Anytime there's a war and no one dies its automatically shit.
>> No. 75976
There can we please let this awful Itachi plot tumor die now, please

PLEASE

Also I like how the manga constantly tries to paint Danzou as someone who had the village's best interests at heart and yet here he is, fucking up Itachi and his bro preventing the Uchiha coup for no fucking reason.
>> No. 75984
I dunno, I kinda like Itachi lately more than ever.
Back then he was just a prick who killed everyone because.
Now he's just a fuckup who doesn't know how to do anything except be a pretty effective weapon. He's just kind of a derp who doesn't know shit about anything that isn't killing the hell out of people, and I appreciate that more than HON HON HON I HAVE ALL THESE IRONS IN THE FIRE I AM SO SECRETLY MANIPULATIVE HON HON idk I'm tired as hell
>> No. 75995
I cried one little half a tear. I really did like Itachi, and it's a shame he didn't have a more important role in the story.
>> No. 75998
>>75995
Especially since you know Sasuke's just gonna go straight back to "I must destroy the leef to get me revengence!!!" regardless of everything Itachi just laid down.
>> No. 76008
>>75998

Well, all Itachi did was confirm Sasuke's suspicion that Tobi was being truthful about what happened: that Konoha betrayed the Uchiha and Itachi's hand was forced by the higher-ups.

But it seems like it was just mostly Danzo, so I don't know who Sasuke plans to kill. Basically everyone who was in charge back then is dead except for those two crusty elders who aren't even ninja so they wouldn't put up a fight. Is Sasuke really going to go about killing people who didn't know about what happened to the Uchiha, otherwise had no ability to affect it, or (like Konohamaru and the other their age) were not even freaking born yet?? It seems illogical. It seems to me more like he's going to go there, suddenly be overcome with nostalgia about the return to his old home, and decide not to go through with it.
>> No. 76009
>>76008
>It seems illogical.
Given how much Naruto seems devoted the moral message that revenge is dumb, that's probably half the point.
>> No. 76010
>>76008
Weren't the Uchiha already bettraying the Hidden Village with thier planned pointless coup for power, despite being one of the most prestigious clans in the village with everyone's respect, and even being in charge of the police force?

I think being a murderously retarded asshat is the most natural state for an Uchiha,
I guess the eye with the potential for neverending amounts of completly hax abilities comes with a downside, like causing a cancer that damages the 'sanity' and 'moral' parts of the brain.
>> No. 76011
>>76010

Yep. The Uchiha Massacre plot is really an onion of stupidity. No matter how much you peel away, there's always another layer of stupid underneath.
>> No. 76039
>I guess the eye with the potential for neverending amounts of completly hax abilities

Well, you know what the Oracle said about what the only thing men with power want: "more power".

That part is actually believable to me, because it follows the real world. People with the most power tend to be the most corrupt, people with the most money tend to be the most cheap, people with the most possessions tend to be the most materialistic, etc.

The one thing I want to know is, where do the Sharingan powers ACTUALLY come from? I mean, with most jutsu you kinda have to learn how it's done, weave the seals, manipulate your chakra and all that in order for it to work; IE: it takes concentrated effort because you get the result. With the Sharingan, it seems to work on freaking autopilot. Like in Sasuke's battle with Naruto, when his eyes developed the third tomoe (little comma-shaped mark) he suddenly was seeing Naruto moving in future-afterimages and thus able to predict his movements. Sasuke didn't have to learn this technique, he didn't have to practice it, hell... he didn't even know IT EXISTED. His Sharingan all of a sudden started doing that all on its own as if each eye is actually a fucking homunculus capable of making decisions on its own. Also, Kakashi's Sharingan sucks his chakra even when he doesn't want it to.

The point to this is that I'm wondering where awesomely-hax-but-destroy-ones-own-eye MS jutsus Izanagi and Izanami came from. If nobody ever has to learn these techniques because they come out of fucking nowhere, where did it come from in the first place? I don't think the Sage passed these jutsu down to the Uchiha because they're batshit insane techniques that nobody should be fooling around with, so I was thinking the Uchiha might have developed them at a later point.

Which means that the reason the Uchiha have such hax abilities is because they're power-grubbing assholes in the first place, and think nothing is wrong with developing reality-warping techniques at the cost of their own eyes.
>> No. 76267
>Kabuto: The Edo Tensei has absolutely NO RISK! It is the perfect jutsu, without drawbacks.

Madara: Lol, nope.
>> No. 76273
>>76267
>"Tell the summoner that forbidden techniques should be used with caution."
Yeah, pretty outright badass moment there.
>> No. 76274
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76274
Meanwhile, who ever's writing the new Naruto movie seems to be saying what I'm thinking.
>> No. 76275
>>76274
What is going on there?
>> No. 76277
>>76274

Hinata acting aggressive to Naruto?? I simply don't believe it.

See what I did there? :3
>> No. 76291
>>76274
The lipstick makes me think she's possessed.
>> No. 76299
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>>76291
Nope, that's her new design.
>> No. 76300
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Also we finally see Sakura's parents.
>> No. 76301
>>76300
>Sakura's father has the pink hair.

No wonder we've never seen this guy before. I bet he's perpetually in hiding.
>> No. 76306
>>76299
Who is this skanky ninja-prostitute?

And who is the dude that looks like Sasuke but is smiling in a non-bloodthirsty or insane way?
>> No. 76310
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>>76299

No wait, that wasn't what I was thinking at all!
>> No. 76311
>>76299

What the fuck? Is this movie like a mirror-verse story or something?
>> No. 76312
>>76299

What the fuck? Is this movie like a mirror-verse story or something?
>> No. 76317
>>76311
mirror-Hinata is no longer the quiet shy girl who swoons at the sight of Naruto, instead she is loud and hypersexual and raeps Naruto >>76274


(Honestly I have no idea whats the deal with all this)
>> No. 76321
>>76312

Yes, actually. I think the premise is Naruto (and I think Sakura) get tossed into a world where Naruto's parents are alive and everybody's different.

Kishimoto is apparently writing it, if I remember right.
>> No. 76324
>>76321
That does not sound very promising
>> No. 76326
>>76321

Are we're forgetting that the sealing of the Kyuubi REQUIRED Naruto's parents to die? If they're alive, it implies that perhaps it's a universe where the Bijuu don't exist, and therefore there was no reason for them to die. Which means that Naruto doesn't have the Kyuubi inside him, which is basically 99% of what makes him out special protagonist in the first place.

(Happy Sasuke reminds me of Anko...)
>> No. 76329
>>76326

Well, it's supposed to be a genjustu from Tobi/Madara, so I think it's gonna break away from canon quite a bit.
>> No. 76330
>>76329
I have a feeling this is going to make us go, "Tobi should have won."
>> No. 76345
At least it's still better than Gantz.
>> No. 76485
OMG, is Sasuke on the verge of becoming a good guy?! Will he magically gain the ability to stand toe-to-toe with either one Madara or the other? Will Real?Madara actually decide to kill the Kage this time, instead of just telling them over and over how weak they are and how easily he could do it?

Stay tuned to "Naruto: Yes, I CAN Plotline Worse Than Kubo!"
>> No. 76487
>>OMG, is Sasuke on the verge of becoming a good guy?!

What happened to his "I'm still planning to destroy the village you gave up everything to protect bro, because... fuck you I'm an asshole"
>> No. 76489
>Watching the Fourth or whatever Great Ninja War Arc
>At least half of it is flashbacks and exposition.
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY MAKE ACTION BORING IN A SHOW ABOUT FUCKING MAGIC NINJAS.
HOW.
>> No. 76490
>>76489
He must've asked M. Night for advice.
>> No. 76510
Ya' know, the more info and promo imagery I see of the new Naruto movie, the more I keep thinking that it could either be
A) really, really awesome in a bizarro world sort of way, where up is down and left is right and personalties are switched
-or-
B) a neat idea that is executed very, very horribly and doesn't fit the Naruto-verse at all.
>> No. 76531
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>>76510
It's not going to be as good as it possibly can because Sasuke isn't reprising his role as Dr. Snakes
>> No. 76545
>>76531

Well, he DID say he was going to find Orochimaru (and I am SO glad, because he was a much more interesting character/villian than anyone who's come along since) so there is a chance Sasuke may yet have some doctoring and snaking to do, at least in the main series.

(But since this is bizarro-land Naruto in the movie, perhaps Sakura is the elite genius and Sasuke a barely-passable ninja who can only do medical jutsu? Would certainly be interesting, and then he could at least be a doctor, snakes or not...)
>> No. 76614
>>76485
Sasuke was always a wildcard.
Or in other words, Sasuke does what Sasuke wants (and believes in).
>> No. 76636
Ya' know, before this chapter, I had totally forgotten Pedochimaru had parts of his soul sealed and couldn't move his arms.
>> No. 76637
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>> No. 76638
>>76637
We missed you, Michael Jackson.
You are truly the king of not-dying.
>> No. 76642
God damn, I never expected we'd see Orochimaru running around again. Oddly enough his arms don't seem to be sealed anymore given how he absorbed the energy out of Kabutomaru, so I guess the Third's sacrifice truly was in vain now.

Oh well, it's always fun to see Orochimaru act like a creeper.
>> No. 76649
I don't really like (or understand) that handwave explanation as to why Orochimaru was somehow still alive inside Anko or whatever, and how that means he could hear everything going on outside her body... but I don't care-

WHOO! OROCHIMARU IS BACK! YAH!

I'm so happy. This is honestly the best thing to happen in the manga since the war started. Kinda a step backwards, but that's okay. Also, it's like an affirmation that Naruto has, indeed, grown stronger than Sasuke; he'll need Orochimaru's help to gain enough power to compete on that level, EMS or not.

It's interesting that Orochimaru did not kill Kabuto, just... basically revert him to the state he was in before he fused himself with pieces of his former boss. I wonder what role Kabuto has left to play in the plot, since he was PLENTY powerful all on his own (enough to beat Tsunade at medical jutsu) even years ago.

(Oh, and since when the hell does the manga come out on TUESDAY?!)
>> No. 76650
Orochimaru is lame, why are people excited he's back to extend the series?

Also why is Sasuke all cool with him again? Or are they just doing a repeat of him wanting Oro's power again.
>> No. 76653
>>76642
Dude brah, I honestly couldn't care less about the old fart. I feel it is insulting to have old men be the ones who die and the author expects us to care about an old man who not only is he far older than the college age/young adult/standard adult reading the manga, but he seldom gets any screen time for us to give a crap about him as a person. Even Jiraiya suffered from this and he wasn't even that old.

Anyways that said, don't care about Hiruzen and am glad Oro is back to being the creeper and only legitimate villain of the series. Oro works because he's so overtly loathsome as opposed to Loser (Tobi) or Emo (Nagato). The only downside if Oro admitting that he's currently weaker than Mary Sue (Sasuke).
>> No. 76668
>>76653
Well to be fair his soul arms have been condemned to eternal damnation.
>> No. 76671
>>76653
>I don't care about the Third
>I think old characters are automatically less awesome and relatable

In the interests of science, will you submit yourself to an examination, to further the understanding of soulless homunculi?
>> No. 76672
>>76671

He used the phrases "Dude Brah" and "Mary Sue", I don't think we're supposed to take him seriously... I hope we're not supposed to take him seriously.
>> No. 76684
>>76672
But he has a point. Too often in fiction the Senior Citizen character is the obligatory one to die (since they are already nearly dead anyways) and as a result the authors never flesh them out as characters outside of their archetypes so that the audience feels attached to them.

I think the only exception to this is Pixar's movie Up. Bonus points since Carl did not get killed off at the end.
>> No. 76848
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...so basically this entire stupid lengthy boring war arc was completely pointless? Arrrrrrrrgh.
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Also, Kishimoto, are you actively trying to prove all of the stupidest pieces of fan theory correct, or what?
>> No. 76850
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76850
>WE ARE FIGHTING DREAMERS "of tits" yes thank you Bee

Madara's response was pretty cool, too, even with the awkward writing by the translator. Let me see if I can rework it:
>Individuality blinds people to the truth of the world.
>No-one can change that. No-one can lead the masses to true understanding. And I am no-one.
>> No. 76851
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>>76850
Tit's are a man's dream, a MAN'S ROMANCE!
>> No. 76852
>>76848
...

THIRD IMPACT?!?
>> No. 76855
>>76852
Japan plays that one every week, it's hard to be surprised anymore.
>> No. 76858
>>76849
So it's just someone that knows Kakashi can't keep his mouth shut, and someone that Gai has seen (in person) before. That's a terribly long list; basically everyone in Konoha.

But since he basically has to be an Uchiha... yep, it's probably Obito! (Tobito... Obitobi...)


And what's really going to be the ultimate twist, is when it's revealed that all this ALREADY HAPPENED, and humanity has been stuck in the Tobi-Matrix for a thousand years... It's up to Naruto to break the cycle by becoming The One.
>> No. 76862
And you guys thought his plan would be ruined with Kurama only half a fox.
>> No. 76865
>>76851
To answer the motivator question, good personality. Anyways anyone else in favor of considering this arc shit? Naruto has become an uneventful dredge fest. Doesn't help that we have a village nuked and no one died and now this war where no one dies. Hmm this would Vivi (One Piece)'s fantasy.

Vivi - I want a war where NO ONE DIES!

She would let her vagina juices loose at seeing the Naruto universe.
>> No. 76869
>>76865

I want to agree with you but then your comment went to a weird place and I'm not sure anymore.

But yeah this arc sucks bigtime.
>> No. 76877
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>>76850

I liked it. Bee, you're the hero we deserve.
>> No. 76882
>>76858
Nah, Tobi can't be Obito. Obito and Kakashi are the same age, right? Well, when Tobi was fighting Minato, Kakashi was still in his teens, but Tobi was clearly an adult. This story make be pretty weak, but I doubt a plot hole of that size would go by unnoticed if Tobi being Obito was the plan all along.
>> No. 76883
>>76878

The big problem is that he isn't the main character anymore. And I mean this very seriously. I know we like to joke that Sasuke is the main character, but I really do think he has effectively become it. Why? Because everything is about him, and nothing is about Naruto himself. Naruto's main conflict has been resolved for ages. His stated goal is to become Hokage, but the reason behind that, his internal conflict, is his desire to be accepted as a legitimate part of the village. And that's been resolved! That was resolved a really long time ago! Whether Naruto actually becomes hokage or not is totally irrelevant.

So, with that gone, what's the central conflict that drives the series? Why, it's Sasuke's family issues and his own SHOULD I BE A CRAZY VENGEANCE PERSON OR NOT drama. It drives the main plot (since whatever he's up to will almost certainly decide the fate of the world), it drives Sasuke's actions, and it drives Naruto's actions, because his internal conflict has changed to 'can I save Sasuke or not'. It's the single most important conflict at this point in time.

Sasuke is the main character, like it or not (I don't).
>> No. 76884
I'm gonna admit, the pre-movie chapter was actually kinda okay because it showed off the characters just sorta having fun with each other and talking and reaffirming Naruto's bond with them. It still had the staples of silly comedy manga of course (Oh-hoho! Hinata's large breasts float in the bath! Sakura likes to beat people up for being perverts!) but it was nice to see them being friends, not just plot devices to one another.
>> No. 76886
pre-movie chapter?
>> No. 76887
>>76886

This week also saw the release of an extra chapter meant to lead into the movie, and how/why this stuff all starts up.
>> No. 76888
>Sakura likes to beat people up for being perverts!

Sakura likes to hit and beat people up that don't do jack squat to her just because she's a privileged Tsundere (a loathsome archetype that Japan loves). I think the only time it was ever justified is when Sai called her an "ugly bitch." Which to be fair she did have it coming after her behvior in Part 1. She's not hot and at that point for Sai before Jesus No Jutsu he saw Sasuke precisely for what he was, a selfish traitor who deserved to be bad mouthed.

Still rooting for Hinata. However if Naruto continues to ignore her existence even after this war arc, then by god I pray that someone NTRs Naruto because he does not deserve her.
>> No. 76890
>>76888
Am I the only one who wants Naruto to get with no one at the end?
>> No. 76891
>>76890
I'm sure you're not (I'm not one of them).
>> No. 76892
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>>76890
I figure he'll die in a climactic final battle with Sasuke and they'll build statues of the two at the place where they fought, which will be named the Valley of the Beginning.
>> No. 76893
>>76892
After reading >>76883 's post, I have to say I don't want Sasuke to die. I want him to live and destroy Naruto and shame him. Sasuke is more dynamic as a character and his crazy factor just makes him a total laugh (provided you don't take him seriously) not to mention the only thing that makes a story for the series. I wouldn't mind showing Sasuke kill Naruto and then show him re-starting his clan with a new secret village of his own.
>> No. 76894
-Before 4chan decided to freeze up, we were having a reasonable Naruto thread on /co/. It was mostly about the new movie and Hinata's breasts, but it was still civil.

-Looks like the war arc isn't leading to the final showdown after all. That's disappointing. Looks like Naruto gonna shut down Tobi of whoever he is and Sasuke and Orochi is gonna go on an adventure and ask damn near everyone about the Uchiha massacre like he was Phoenix Wright or somebody. I shouldn't be surprised.

-The movie looks and sounds half way interesting. The mirror world thing has been done to death, but it could still be neat to see what exactly goes down. Also I like that Lee is the same in both universes.
>> No. 76897
>>76893

:|

So, anyone knows if there's a site that has a non-jpg version of the Road to Ninja manga? That shit was awesome, I love seeing the Konoha-11 interact like that.
>> No. 76898
>>76894

I LOVE that it seems Hinata is still into Normal Naruto regardless of universe.

I'm downloading that movie as soon as it hits the internet.

On the manga side of things, I don't know what to expect. I'm just sort of riding along just to see where it goes (and hoping it reaches Naruhina port).
>> No. 76900
>>76898
Bah! Naruto doesn't deserve Hinata

>>76887
Has someone got a link tothe translated extra chapter?
>> No. 76901
>>76900

If Hinata loves him, then I want them together damn it.

It's not like Naruto hates her, he has made it very clear several times that he likes her (as a friend atm), he is just ridiculously burdened by the war, Sasuke's dickery, and Kishi's need to drag shit up for as long as possible at the deteriment of logic storytelling.

Anyway, here's the translated Road To Ninja prequel chapter.

I liked it a lot, I would love to see more of the Konoha 11 just hanging around, being bros and stuff.

http://www.mangareader.net/road-to-naruto-the-movie/1
>> No. 76904
>>76901
>>76902
>>76903
Jesus christ Seyker!

If in the future it says it failed to work ignore that message and close the tab , it will have usually managed to post regardless, whatever you do don't hit refresh.

(Man, why are all the girls such violent psychopaths in anime, so ready to believe the worst of thier male peers and physically beating them up. At least for once Sakura saw the logic of the situation and realized Lee isn't like that)
>> No. 76906
Oh no, not here too.
>> No. 76908
>>76906
Oh, this guy's done Naruto before. It was some of his most disturbing work.
>> No. 76909
>>76908
Disturbing work? Wha?
>> No. 76910
>>76909
The misogyny guy, he's made elaborate posts here. But anyway, that movie actually seems pretty nice. For Naruto, anyhow, it seems interesting.
>> No. 76911
>>76910
Ah but the misogyny guy hates all women. Those two guys didn't say they hated all women, much less I doubt Hinata would get praised. So it can't be him.

As far as Sakura acting like a psychopath and attacking Naruto for petty shit, it would be more tolerable if Naruto was like the protagonsit of MM. Meaning he's a canon masochist who specifically gets off on women beating him up.
>> No. 76912
>>76911
I don't care about Sakura beating on Naruto, But Ino wanting to beat on Lee for being a peeping tom for falling through two or three floors of a building is not cool!
>> No. 76913
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Why are people not talking more about Hinata and her magnificant floating breasts?
>> No. 76914
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76914
>> No. 76916
>>76913
I think they're my two favorite characters in Naruto.
>> No. 76921
>>76913

I never got a link to whatever that video was from /co/.
>> No. 76924
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>>76916
They certainly are a pair of....well-rounded characters....
>> No. 76927
I don't follow the manga anymore, but that new movie has great potential so I'm looking forward to it.
>> No. 76929
Here's what I wanna know: is it all based on Naruto wanting a family and all the other changes are because of that being "true" now, or is everybody just getting their inner desires fulfilled? Does Hinata secretly wish she was more assertive, and does Neji want to be a little nicer? Does Chouji want to be skinny and Shikamaru to be a more ordinary guy with less worries? Do Gai and Kakashi wonder what it's like to be each other? Does Sasuke wish it could all be undone or does Sai secretly wish he was Sasuke, to fit in more with the new Team Seven and spare them the pain of having a former comrade as a foe?

Lee is perfectly content with himself in every way, of course.
>> No. 76930
>>76929
That would be and interesting and compelling scenario and thus, highly unlikely.
>> No. 76931
>>76929
That is far too deep for Kishi.
>> No. 76941
>>76929
>Here's what I wanna know: is it all based on Naruto wanting a family and all the other changes are because of that being "true" now, or is everybody just getting their inner desires fulfilled? Does Hinata secretly wish she was more assertive, and does Neji want to be a little nicer? Does Chouji want to be skinny and Shikamaru to be a more ordinary guy with less worries? Do Gai and Kakashi wonder what it's like to be each other? Does Sasuke wish it could all be undone
Well, we already know that Shikamaru wants less worries and an ordinary (and, more importantly, easy) life, and Chouji has had negative reactions to his weight in the past. We can infer that Hinata wants to be more assertive, though I don't know that it's ever been said explicitly.

The Neji thing....possibly. After Naruto befriended him, he seems to have at least decided to be less of a dick, so it's possible he wants to be nicer still. The others are purely the realm of conjecture, but you might be on to something.
>> No. 76950
>>76941
That may be a good explanation for such characters, but, what about some of the other characters who, so far as it's been seen, have no problems with the way they are. Characters like Ino, Kiba, TenTen, Shino, and Tsunade. It seems like it's going to be a movie about the typical "opposite day " trope.
>> No. 76955
Judging by that prerelease chapter, it's all based on Naruto's and Sakura's desires. Maybe?
>> No. 76971
>>76950
Tsunade hates being Hokage but does it because she feels a sense of responsibility (IIRC). Tenten, Shino, and Ino get five lines COMBINED for an entire arc, so we have no idea what the fuck they want.
>> No. 76976
>>76971
I don't see how Ino WANTs to be a wallflower hiding behind her male teammate.
>> No. 77002
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Naruto: Tenten's Theme (Hellbo…youtube thumb
>> No. 77032
>>77002
Hinata remix
http://www.darkesword.com/listen/remix/mp3/irondance.mp3
>> No. 77216
Obito confirmed
Almost
>> No. 77229
>>77216
I kept inching closer and closer to my monitor, getting ready to scream at a moment's notice.
>> No. 77254
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>> No. 77340
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77340
Pearls of wisdom for Naruto, Sasuke and Kishimoto from the HNIC (Head Ninja in Charge):

Black Dynamite Ninja Speechyoutube thumb
>> No. 77341
Welp. It's him, all right. But he's not taking the mask off yet.
>> No. 77354
Apparently the plot now is Obito as Tobi is trying to use some plotkai-no-jutsu to bring back the chick that was on his and Kakashi's team cuz she ded?
>> No. 77355
>>77354

...but she isn't. Or at least she wasn't at the time when Obito fucking DIED

Goddamit this is basically the most retarded thing possible.
>> No. 77370
>>77355
Get ready to go one plot twist deeper.
>> No. 77374
>>77354
>>77355
>>77370
Unless SHE IS TOBI.
Old Movie Drama Score Sound Effectyoutube thumb
>> No. 77378
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>>76913
>> No. 77380
>>77374
NUHNUHNUHNUHNUUUUHHHH
yeah that's exactly what i was thinking
>> No. 77382
>>77378
That... is some on the nose coverage right there.
>> No. 77383
1. Tobi is Obito, trying to bring Rin back to life.
2. Tobi is Rin with Obito's eye.
3. Tobi is Obito AND Rin.
>> No. 77384
>>77383
Tobi is Kakashi and has been all along. The ninja we think is Kakashi is actually a brainwashed Tobito, or possibly some type of clone.
>> No. 77385
So is the movie any good?
>> No. 77488
this is turning into how i met your mother
just get to the reveal already
>> No. 77519
>>77488
-Kids, have I ever told you the story of How I Became the Hokage?
-Is this gonna take long?
-YES.
>> No. 77567
Wait
Wasn't Tobi the one sent out to get back Deidara's arm after Kakashi Kamui'd it?
I can't be bothered looking back to find out, but if so
wow
good job on continuity, Kishimoto.
>> No. 77569
>>77567
he didn't really know what he wanted to do with Tobi
i'm almost shocked that he figured out what to do with that almost-ret-conned Itachi-Naruto run-in
>> No. 77648
What do you call a shocking reveal...when its not shocking or anything surprising? And kind of dumb?
>> No. 77649
REALLY?

NOW YOU START DRAWING THE NARUTO PARALLELS?
>> No. 77650
>>77648
Just a reveal
>> No. 77651
LITERALLY birth of a Supervillain origin.

Obito nothing more than a so ronry guy.
>> No. 77652
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>>Die happy and entrusting the future to your comrades
>>Actually not dead and with bitter grudges as fuck
>> No. 77654
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77654
>>be a total pussy at age of what, 13? 14?
>>-16 years ago attack konoha-
>>be like fucking 15 years old
>>be able to summon kyuubi on his own
>>be able to pose a threat to 4th hokage
What the crap?

Oh and here, have a template.
>> No. 77655
i liked the chapter not because of the reveal, but because of the world building.

unfortunately, yeah, too many parallels to naruto. why would a villain need to ride naruto's coat tails in order to seem like a relatable threat? boo-urns.

>>77654
nice. can someone put Aizen in there?
>> No. 77660
14 year old Genma and Guy made this chapter OK.
>> No. 77663
That plot twist is so obvious and yet nonsensical that my only conclusion that it will be twisted once more before this is over.

Also, am I expected to believe that Kakashi is 6 in that Chunnin exam flashback? Because I didn't forget about that trivial detail.
>> No. 77664
>>77655
>unfortunately, yeah, too many parallels to naruto. why would a villain need to ride naruto's coat tails in order to seem like a relatable threat?
It's probably not to set him up as a reliable threat, but as a Shadow Archetype to Naruto. It's for the emotional torque, not the tension in battle.

I still question its validity at this point (the time for setting that sort of thing up would've been years ago), but I don't think the fact that it doesn't make him more frightening is relevant, is all.
>> No. 77665
I am so happy about this chapter. The Obito thing is SO STUPID and SO FUNNY after years of speculation in that nonsensical direction got shot down, what, 3 years ago only to come back out of nowhere? It's a laugh riot.

What I LEGITIMATELY enjoyed was seeing a bunch of the jounin when they were young.
>> No. 77668
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>Being right after all those years.

This must be how the Jews felt when Israel was founded.
>> No. 77669
oh right so new questions now that the obvious thing that the majority of us speculated at his introduction has been proven right:

how is he still alive?
where was he all these years?
what's his motivation?
is he working for any cool bros higher up than him?
is his power complementary to kakashi's mangekyou or can kakashi potentially shift through objects by changing dimensions as well?
why does rock lee fuck tsunade with his tongue hanging out like that?
what happened to rin?
how did tobi gain so much influence over the akatsuki?
do they even matter after all of this?
>> No. 77671
>>77669
I'm guessing it's a real big bad bodyjumping. Tobi's original personality was more in line with Obito's, before he became an anus. The timeline doesn't quite ad up either.

>9 year old: He was the Mizukage. - 14 year old: He attacked Konoha, and forced Minato to sacrifice himself / He also had extensive knowledge of seals - Was alive during the 2WW to give Nagato his Rinnegan. - Even wiped out the Uchiha for no reason - Fought Hashirama
>> No. 77676
>>77671

Doesn't add up at all, given that Obito didn't have a sharingan at all until after Kakashi was a jounin.

This reveal is just completely nonsense.
>> No. 77677
>>77676
GIVE KISHIMOTO A CHANCE TO RET-CON, GOD.
>> No. 77678
sweet, sweet validation

I told ya

I told all ya'll.
>> No. 77718
http://stephbrownies.tumblr.com/post/30503196720/it-was-gabby-she-told-me-to-t
>> No. 77720
I always thought Tobi was Obito, but just his body is being used like a puppet or whatever

If it turns out that it's 100% Obito, just gone evil, I ain't gonna be happy. I always liked him for his design and gentleness. I do not want the only story in naruto that made me tear up be soured by the tragic hero being a bad guy.
>> No. 77723
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77723
Well, after like five freaking years... it's finally been confirmed.

Tobito exists.

Goddamnitall.
>> No. 77734
>>77723
"ERMAHGERD WHAT A SURPRISE I TOTALLY DID NOT SEE THIS BIG REVEAL COMING!" - Fucking Nobody (August 2012)
>> No. 77735
>>77723
"ERMAHGERD WHAT A SURPRISE I TOTALLY DID NOT SEE THIS BIG REVEAL COMING!" - Fucking Nobody (August 2012)
>> No. 77750
>>77723
You fucking kidding me.
How the shit did Obito HASSLE HIS FUCKING SENSEI WITH THE NINE TAILED FOX WHEN HE WAS LIKE, 16!
It should at least take a fucking decade for an Uchiha joke to learn how to fight on par with the fourth fucking hokage and control the 9 tailed fox.
>> No. 77751
>OMFG, How could Obito do (insert impossible task/feat here)??

Because Sharingan.
>> No. 77765
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>>77655
Here you go
>> No. 77770
>>77751
I approve of Danzo's plan to murder them all then.
Fighting an Uchiha is like engaging a 10 year old in a pretend battle
>NUH UH MY SHARINGAN CAN TOTALLY DEFLECT YOU THROWING THE SUN AT ME, AND THEN INSTANTLY COUNTER FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE
>> No. 77780
>>77770
The Sharingan is such total bullshit, why did they even need to introduce the ring eye when the red eye can do whatever bullshit it feels like?

Sucks to have the byakugan, in comparison to the other eyes its freakin underpowered.
>> No. 77800
>Byakugan.

That'll come someday, too. Kishi will run out of ideas for what the Sharingan will do, realize he's painted himself into a corner because nobody can defeat the sharingan without utilizing the I'm-Naruto-Dattebayo! Exception, and throw some ridiculous abilities in there, too.

Besides, it just makes sense. Most jutsu is developed specifically to counter other jutsu, so wouldn't the Hyuuga start going "Oh, shit!" the more they found out about the sharingan, and develop something to counter it and only it? Sort of like what Deidara was doing with his covered eye... only, you know, it ACTUALLY WORKS.
>> No. 77856
>>77765
bless your soul
>> No. 77860
>Obito wants to end the world so as to create a worldwide fusion of minds into a new reality, just so he can be reunited with his lost love.

Holy Christ, Obito Uchiha is actually Gendo Ikari.


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