Holy fuck. Bit I a double dose of emperical evidence for FOOD FUCKING CHANGING OUR BRAINS LIKE DRUGS DO. Well, that and a story about high fructose finally being demonstrated as a weight altering substance...but way more so than expected.I mean, half of us probably guessed this, but theres another thing to have it demonstrated emperically and finally be excepted as canonical:http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/03/28/fatty.foods.brain/index.html>By monitoring implanted brain electrodes, the researchers found that the rats in the third group gradually developed a tolerance to the pleasure the food gave them and had to eat more to experience a high...When the researchers applied an electric shock to the rats' feet in the presence of the food, the rats in the first two groups were frightened away from eating. But the obese rats were not. "Their attention was solely focused on consuming food," says Kenny.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322121115.htm>"When rats are drinking high-fructose corn syrup at levels well below those in soda pop, they're becoming obese -- every single one, across the board. Even when rats are fed a high-fat diet, you don't see this; they don't all gain extra weight."
Good, good. Also, words cannot express how happy I am about HFCS being hit with this. Maybe if we get that shit out of our food, we won't have so god damned many health problems.That stuff is also suspected as a reason for why the liver and kidneys are getting ruined.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322204628.htmYup. Fucks your liver.>"We found that increased consumption of high fructose corn syrup was associated with scarring in the liver, or fibrosis, among patients with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD)," said Manal Abdelmalek, MD, MPH, associate professor of medicine in the Division of Gastroenterology/Hepatology at Duke University Medical Center.
It's still OK to have a can of coke now and then right? I mean, come on.
>>515Well of course. It's just that HFCS is kryptonite to anybody trying to maintain a healthy bodyweight. If you're active and fit, you don't really need to worry about excess bodyfat. But the thing is, they still aren't aware -why- the HFCS is so SUPER EFFECTIVE against the liver, kidneys and bodyfat. They're just now discovering that it is.
>>573Why is it even used so damn much in the first place? Is it really that much cheaper than whatever other sweetener?
>>579Corn lobby is incredibly strong in America. We could import our sugars from sugar cane grown in Brazil for a fraction of the cost but we have huge tariffs on sugar and ... get this... GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES for corn.
>>580And instead of getting rid (or at least significantly decreasing) all of the HFCS incentives, the federal government is thinking about taxing soda.Makes total sense. :|
>>586It isn't like we can get rid of cigarettes and alcohol, the same would probably go for soda.
I just gave up high fructose corn syrup for Lent and lost 8 pounds without changing any other aspect of my day to day life.Actually, I wasn't working as much so I was probably LESS active even.So, theres' that.
>>593I call bullshit.
>>634try it. pounds drop when you stop drinking soda. More when you stop drinking alcohol.
I agree with this. I quit drinking soda after I passed a kidney stone. Now everything tastes better, I get sick less, I am less hungry and more thirsty, and I have lost around 6 pounds. If you haven't tried quitting soda, I recommend it. Doesn't mean you can't have a pop every once in a while.
Well I already barely drink soda, and I don't really need to lose weight, but are there other decent ways to cut down on HFCS?Just looking through my pantry there really seems to be some in literally everything that is at all sweet (so if you're eating a hamburger it's not just the ketchup which has HFCS, but also the fucking buns), except, oddly enough, the whipped cream, which has sugar and dextrose instead.
>>696My condolences.>>698I'm afraid unless you want to go full 'tard and take as many drastic measures as the most rabid of dogmatic dieters, you'll never be able to totally remove HFCS from the stuff you eat. The stuff is in all of our processed food for a reason. Corn lobby and all.Unless you plan to double your food budget and actually care about nutrition, odds are you'll still get a good amount of the stuff. But it's still a lot better than chugging as much soda as I remember the kids from highschool drinking. Jesus fuck,.Eight slices of pizza a day, 2-liters in class.
Knew I had a food thread buried somewhere. Bumping with this. Ever want scientists to do an ACTUAL study to see if organic food vs conventially farmed food has ANY benifit? Good news, everyone:http://www.grist.org/article/new-study-weighs-in-on-organicconventional-debate/Keep in mind, however, this researches limitations. The primary focus is on the health of the plant itself, NOT its impact on human injestion.
>>2046>my face when chem sprayers call their method "conventional"grew up in a very old agricultural community where chemicals on crops were considered taboo. fucking corporate assholes with their desire for high yield when most of our produced crop goes to waste anyway.
>mfw neo-luddites think pesticide is the devil.
>>2052kinda is, have you seen the environmental repurcussions of that shit? its pretty bad man. its part of why the rivers in england are so dead these days.
>>2052 >>2056 And its not all pesitcides, its primarily the GM altered Round-up crops that they're refering to. Monsanto kinda has a bad buisness model when it comes to food.
>>2082There's nothing wrong with GM crops, outside of being a bit more vulnerable to disease, and even that can be managed.
>>2083 Theres nothing wrong with GM crops if you do them RIGHT. Monsanto, however, hasn't.They're kinda the 'bad press' generator for advancements in GM organisms in general, sadly.
>>2083I have no beef with GM crops. Monsanto, though, are a bag of dicks.
>>2086GM really does have the potential to vastly improve human life. Perennialization, disease, pest, cold and drought resistance, and higher nutrition could all greatly benefit us. It'd require careful oversight, of course.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/13/opinion/lweb13weeds.html?_r=1&emc=eta1Also, GM canola has gone feral.http://www.physorg.com/news201004189.html