>Vague powers

What's vague about snow powers?

>>28137
But she is bird!
Is odd!

>>28138

>>28138
A bird in a story where some guy gives everybody animal limbs.
Monet's pretty cool. She's also pretty psychotic, I have no idea what she's up to with all of this.

she's got me raising an eyebrow

but geez oda, could ya learn how to draw harpies better?

she's got me raising an eyebrow

but geez oda, could ya learn how to draw harpies better?

I'm hesitant to say she should join the crew, she hasn't really filled any crew roles.
But a harpy woman with snow powers that is working for Ceasar Clown but isn't does raise some eyebrows as to what's planned for her. Usually a girl's all straight up evil by now if they're just gonna be a villain. Thriller Bark's Perona, CP9's Kalifa, and others.

>>28143
I dunno, I think she's pretty evil as is, vaguely evil but evil indeed.
I mean, she's pretty much telling those kids to share their crack in the most recent chapter.

But I do think she's probably a weird case in that Doflamingo finding her expendable and the "he'll kill me" thing being said but not in agony probably maybe makes her not totally nonredeemable. It's my own personal pet theory that everyone Doflamingo "makes" his crew just has to learn to deal with what they've go, because they know they can be replaced and they know it could be inevitable. Doflamingo to me is the very essence of anti-nakama; everything's expendable to him. I think Monet's the way she is possibly because she sort of has to get used to "you mean nothing to me and if you fail you'll get the axe".

>>28143
I dunno, I think she's pretty evil as is, vaguely evil but evil indeed.
I mean, she's pretty much telling those kids to share their crack in the most recent chapter.

But I do think she's probably a weird case in that Doflamingo finding her expendable and the "he'll kill me" thing being said but not in agony probably maybe makes her not totally nonredeemable. It's my own personal pet theory that everyone Doflamingo "makes" his crew just has to learn to deal with what they've go, because they know they can be replaced and they know it could be inevitable. Doflamingo to me is the very essence of anti-nakama; everything's expendable to him. I think Monet's the way she is possibly because she sort of has to get used to "you mean nothing to me and if you fail you'll get the axe".

I don't think much of her. Just another femme fatale, One Piece has had plenty of 'em every arc.

>>28169
Not really. Off the top of my head, the only ones I can think of are Kalifa and Miss Doublefinger. Maybe Valentine. If anything, we need MORE femme fatales.

Also a central antagonist that's a woman. Oda needs to grow a pair and invest in that already. That's why I'm so excited about Big Mom.

>>28173
well Big Mom is more of a monster than anything, I guess she may technically become the first main female antagonist but the emphasis will be her being an acid spewing candy freak that looks like an abomination

>>28178
I'm cool with that. Though I still think there's more to her than what we saw in that chapter. She's gonna turn out to be a misunderstood sweetheart, you'll see.

>>28173
>>28178
Female antagonists are hard to pull off without getting accusations of sexism so a lot of writers just don't bother. Having said that Oda is hardly one of them. Let's all remember, the first bad person Luffy punches is a woman.

>>28173
Why does the gender matter? Don't be unintentionally sexist. Oda's telling his story and the sex of the characters is about the last thing that matters about them.

>>28185
its just a fair point that out of this long, loooong series there hasn't been a central female antagonist. He's not making a big deal out of it

>>28186
Depends what you mean by "central." The very first central antagonist was female, though I suspect we're going to say she doesn't count because her arc was too short.

>>28185
>Don't be unintentionally sexist

Why is it that every single time you make a post on this site it's the most fucking retarded thing to resound through the stratosphere? I wrote out this whole explanation to you, but then I remembered you're not worth it.

>>28187
What arc? She was in one episode and one manga chapter. But she does count as being a villain. Boa Hancock was also in a villainous role for a short while. By "big bad central antagonist", I meant one that lasted through a big arc with multiple events and feats.. not one episode.

>>28188
Get off my cock, bro. Jesus Christ. More like "Why is it every time I make a post some blowhard fucker's gotta blow his stack and get mad?"

Just tell me you love me or shut up and disappear, this relationship ain't healthy for you.

>>28178
So it has to be a female antagnist with a emphasis on her being a woman?

>>28191
no, it would have to be an emphasis on her being human, which big Mom barely is. Again, I don't really give a shit, but thats how it is

>>28193
Big Mom is no more freaky than the mad scientist clown made of gas, or the racist half fish half man, or the OTHER racist half fish half man, or the leopard man, or the giant zombie devil, or the rapist with a lion mouth. Just because her monstrous outsides match her monstrous insides does not mean she suddenly doesn't count as a female and it's certainly not sexist. Far from it; as it means there's a female character that stands to be a major arc presence that isn't eye candy. That's VARIETY and something more fiction needs when it comes to women, especially antagonistic women. You're trying to have your cake and eat it to and in doing so come off as more than a little naive.

>>28190
Ssssshh. I'm busy zooming into apples.

>>28194
I like the idea that her entire fight with luffy is probably going to be in a kitchen

You're forgetting about the most beautiful lady villain in the entire series

Cis scum

>>28201
i never understood the idea that people could choose their gender

sex is sex whether you do it with a guy or a girl, but presenting as something you're not and thinking it actually makes you that gender is delusion

unless you're this guy

>>28201
or that guy i guess

>>28194
uh, and there have also been male villains who appear as just human and even as muscular and handsome, basically idealized. So no, not naivety, just fact.

>>28178
the first main antagonist was a woman

>>28202
>implying I wouldn't be flip-flopping my gender and relations daily if I had Ivankov's powers

Seriously. Best devil fruit in the series.

>>28207
It's common knowledge that X's fetish is X's favorite power in One Piece.

>>28205
But the muscular 'handsome' villains (which they usually aren't within the series itself) aren't any more legitimate than the monstrous or weird ones. So what the fuck's the problem with a female villain being weird too?

Hey guys what's going on in this

...

bye

>>28205
Only "handsome" villain I can think of is Lucci.

>>28210
IT'S NOT A FETISH, MAN! IT'S A WAY OF LIFE!

>>28213
Fangirls love them some Crocodile, too, but I'm not sure whether that's because they think he's "handsome" or if they're attracted to his style. He doesn't look like he should be considered handsome, but I don't know how ladies think about these things...

>>28214
They're only attracted to his badass image. Crocodile looks like shit when you get down to it; I'd hardly qualify him as handsome.

.. Besides .. nobody cares what fangirls think.

>>28213
Kuro is pretty handsome.

>>28216

Well if you say so. He's pretty firmly stuck in the sameface zone of the early manga, I'd say.

>>28216
Oh. Right.. Kuro. I forgot; my friend actually has a pretty big crush on him. Her favorite OP villain.

.. And I guess I could do some stuff to Enel if no one were looking..

>thread has moved into determining handsome one piece men

I'm not sure what to think about this

>>28219

Well it's not like the quality of discussion has gone down in any meaningful way. I guess.

>>28214
whats not to like? He got slicked back hair, perma-bedroom eyes, a badass scar, and he's a snappy dresser.

His first appearance was pretty crocodillian, but he toned down a bit the longer he was in it.

I guess grey skin is pretty ugly though.

>>28214

He's got confidence and class

>>28218
Probably a rape fetishist. Fellahs think only in the immediate appearances when determining another fellow's candidacy for "handsome/attractive" or crush worthy.

Women think about it differently. Your friend is more likely turned on by the aspect of a cold, power, and intelligent man manipulating and controlling her with (sexually) malicious intent and assured dominance.

He's scary, Kuro. Especially so because it was a young woman he was attached to and thus a more identifiable character for female fans of his.

While we're on the subject of Croc, I always found him to look sort of like a bad-ass version of Johnny Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction, with the slicked back hair and ear piercing and all.

Along with Robin being Uma Thurman, of course.

>>28226
You know, that's.. actually not too far off. She does have a subtle rape/domination fetish. Weird. But so do I, so.

>>28228
There have been a lot of comparisons between Uma Thurman's character in Pulp Fiction and Robin before. Mainly just the looks and cool attitude. It doesn't help that Oda's admitted to being a Pulp Fiction fan, either.

>>28222
You see them as bedroom eyes, but they look more like "smug asshole" eyes to me. Still, that works for some people I guess. He's not my preferred sex anyway, so my thoughts vis a vis his attractiveness aren't really relevant either way.

And I'll grant you that his attitude makes him likeable, and I can see where that would make him more physically attractive too. I've met and/or seen a lot of girls who I wouldn't ordinarily be attracted to who managed to win me over just by having the right "energy."

>>28229
I find it odd that you'd include how you share that kink