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27842 No. 27842

New chapter is out
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>> No. 27843
>dat final panel
I was worried it would happen
>> No. 27844
doflamingo's crew is pretty throw away. kind of disappointing.

and alas, no franky. Oda what are you cooking up?
>> No. 27845

You had me worried, I thought there was going to be a break
>> No. 27846
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Haha oh man, I love Luffy

this is much better than some of the stuff you see at the end of chapters
>> No. 27847
I dunno. They look appropriately fucked up and dress more or less how Bellamy's crew did.

Thought the bit with the maid was pretty funny too.
>> No. 27848
Doflamingo's crew reminds me of Hunter x Hunter's Zoldyck family for some reason.
>> No. 27849
I like how his own crew members regularly try to kill him and he doesn't give a fuck at all.
>> No. 27850
This whole chapter.
>> No. 27851

cut that out
>> No. 27852

Like a bolt from the blue, it's mangastream!
Now you don't have to give mangapanda any more views at all this week.


Get the fuck out.
>> No. 27853
Why the fuck is chopper fighting the kids? I thought he loved them.
>> No. 27854
It's a mystery. Here I thought this arc was all set up, but this chapter's full of little curveballs.
>> No. 27855
Calling it now: It will end up as some "See? I can withstand the effects of drugs, too! So can you! Just keep it together!!"
>> No. 27856
Whoa whoa hold the phone. I thought that Baby was just using a bunch of weapons that she strapped to her back, but shes actually transforming parts of her body. She turns her arms into a cannon, a battleaxe, and scythes, and her finger into a pistol. Man, why'd Doflamingo have to hog all the good nakamas. Just snap in Monet and Baby in as the last two crewmates and everyone would be happy. Well I guess except those anti reverse re-feminist un-sexists who want more girls in the crew but not if they join just to have more girls in the crew or whatever it is they argue.
>> No. 27857

Hahaha, fucking +4, saving the subject from the thread I made weeks ago, even though I've posted dozens of times since then. Now it won't let me delete the post, ugh.
>> No. 27858
Doflamingo's sending over some of his crew? This is escalating fast....

Also, Vergo got to Punk Hazard quick, Doflamingo must have a base nearby eh?

Is Ceasar a collaborator or do you think he's under doffi's thumb?
>> No. 27859
Looks like Doflamingo's a huge client, but Caesar seems to enjoy some level of autonomy. He doesn't seem like the type that would take orders well in any case.
>> No. 27860
Baby 5 for Strawhat maid.

Calling it.
>> No. 27861
Never thought I would say this,

but this arc is seriously too hectic and confusing. There's like....a thousand ideas going on here.
>> No. 27862
Does...Kinnemon KNOW his son is the dragon? He seems to have some idea....

I like the way baby 5 decides to shoot herself in the mouth in her last panel. She's fucking nuts.
>> No. 27863
...Um, isn't that Flamingo's doing, with his puppetry?
>> No. 27864
>Decides to shoot herself
What? Doflamingo is obviously making her do that.
>> No. 27865
doflamingo made her do that
>> No. 27866
I hope to God that isn't Doflamingo's crew. They might be powerhouses but seriously, Oda has drawn much better characters way back. I love One Piece but I'm worried again. Franky's redesign is still sinking in but this? I don't know...

Speaking of, Franky has been absent for too long.
>> No. 27867
oh yea... where'd he go?
also it was nice of oda to bring sabo back as an undead burn victim that shoots chicks in the face
>> No. 27868

He went to the Sunny in order to do something.
>> No. 27869

It's not that hard. Luffy and Law are trying to get Caesar and the SAD for nefarious purposes, Smoker is trying to take Vergo down, and the rest of the Strawhats plus Kinemon and G5 are trying to save the children. Franky is off doing shenanigans.

On the enemy side Caesar is trying to sell his WMD by making examples of everyone else and experimenting on the children to turn them into giants/dragons/giant dragons. Doflamingo had Vergo and Monet infiltrate G5 and Punk Hazard, respectively, and is using them to spy on and protect Caesar.

Ok so it is a bit complex, but compare that to Alabasta where it was like 5 autonomous factions trying to start and stop and take advantage of a civil war and hunting each other down and fighting and allying and all that.
>> No. 27870

I'm still not sure I follow Skypiea to this day.
>> No. 27871

I'm still not sure I follow Skypiea to this day.
>> No. 27872

The strawhats bumble into a 400 year war looking for gold. Everyone dies, and then doesn't die, then the war ends and a crazy guy flies off to the moon on a propeller ship. The end.
>> No. 27873
What exactly is wrong with them? They all look very original and cool. Were you expecting a band of kawaii princes?

Also I get the feeling his entire "crew" is under his influence. What we saw "Baby 5" doing being the normal for when one of them momentarily escape his grasp once in a blue moon. They all seem to know her, but act like it's nothing, or futile. She's also in tears and obviously wanting to kill him, yet he's apparently gonna send her off on a mission right after as if he could trust her and nothing had happened. And maybe some of them have been under his control for such a long time that they've just learned to deal with it.

I agree. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does seem like Oda decided to mix together about two or three different ideas he had for different arcs into one. More and more people keep showing up and the plot keeps thickening.
>> No. 27874
So how much you wanna bet Nami/Robin winds up in a maid outfit during their inevitable encounter with Doflamingo?

along with several of the male strawhats.
>> No. 27875
Zoro and Sanji in tight little french maid outfits? Yes pls
>> No. 27876
Baby 5, Baby-5.

BABY-5. New pacifista, calling it now.
>> No. 27877
I think he's trying to expand the scope of his manga.
>> No. 27878
I doubt he would pummel his son like that. A dragon was probably involved in his son's capture.
>> No. 27879
There's also the fact that island was used as a battleground between the two admirals AFTER the island had become abandoned due to a gas wasteland facilitated by Ceasar and vegapunk. Was Ceasar still hiding out in the old facility while the admirals fought? I still don't actually get the minions though. They had their legs amputated because the gas had left their lower limbs immobile? And brownbeard was brough there for testing?

Also why couldn't Trafalgar go into the sad room before today? They guy can literally switch walls around.
>> No. 27880
Punk Hazard was a makeshift Marine prison island where scientists, among them Vegapunk, supposedly experimented on the people and other things. Deadly gas accident happened, everyone evacuated island except for prisoners who lost leg functions, and Akainu and Aokiji decided to duke it out there. Sometime after that Caesar moved in, helped the prisoners and used Law's powers (when he showed up) to switch prisoner's lost extremities with animal parts.

It's not really explained how Brownbeard wound up there, though. I assume he just washed up there randomly when Hawkins fucked him up.
>> No. 27881
Also Law couldn't go in there because he would have had to deal with Caesar, Vergo and Monet. He's using all this distraction and mayhem as a cover to sneak in there.. And even then it didn't work, cause all three have already been alerted.
>> No. 27882


4 years ago- Caesar detonates his bomb. Test subject prisoners are abandoned and the island is quarantined, but the survivors manage to hide in what is now Caesar's lab. Caesar is captured by the marines, but escapes.
3 years ago- Caesar makes his way back to the island and gives his new followers floaty balloon life preservers. He somehow feeds the poison gas enveloping the island the axolotl fruit, creating Smiley. Over the next year he purifies the gas, locks up Smiley, and continues his experiments.
2 years ago- Akainu and Aokiji, not noticing that the lab is still populated, but knowing that the gas isn't as deadly as it used to be, decide to use the island for their duel. The island is completely terraformed. Elsewhere, Brownbeard and his crew claim a New World island, Foodvalten, as their territory, but a few days later Basil Hawkins beats him so severely that he loses the use of his legs. Brownbeard and his remaining crew somehow escape, and by coincidence make it all the way to Punk Hazard. Caesar recruits them like the other prisoners.
1 year ago- Trafalgar Law, now a Shichibukai, arrives at Punk Hazard. Despite saying he just needs a hideout, he has already begun his plan. However, Caesar only allows him to stay if he does 2 things: turn his followers into chimeras so that they can walk under their own power, and give him his literal, physical heart. Locked in a stalemate, Law bides his time waiting for the opportunity to strike.
0 years ago- Luffy recklessly rushes into the situation for no goddamn reason. Smoker follows him and then everything is ruined for everyone but Law.
>> No. 27883
Well that's not what I was referring to, but the last panel does say that there will be a break, now that you mention it.
>> No. 27885
Correct. Apparently mangapanda edited out the blurb for some reason.

>> No. 27886
>everything is ruined for everyone but Law

>implying Law isn't about to get his living shit pummeled out of him in a matter of chapters
>> No. 27887

Timeline is only up to date to the current chapter for fear that any more of my predictions coming true might reveal me as a OP-prophet, locking us into an unavoidable future of Monet as a crewmember and Jinbe as a lipstick-wearing drag queen.
>> No. 27888
noticed that too. feels like Sanji from Water 7, definitely up to something
>> No. 27889
Doflamingo just doesn't look right without his huge fuck-off feather coat.

Unless it's the thing he's sitting on.
>> No. 27890
So Sanji doesn't end up fighting Vergo and they seem to insinuate that Vergo would've won, guess he's forever doomed to be that guy whos good but cant hold up to Luffy and Zoro and therefore should just sit back and have nosebleeds from whatever chick is around at the time or else get help fighting
>> No. 27891
But he holds up to Zoro all the time. He parries god damn swords with his shins.
>> No. 27892
the stuff with Zoro and Sanji is always used as comic relief, even when Sanji's got his burning leg going and Zoro's got all his swords out its clear that its not meant to be taken seriously

The order is still LUffy, Zoro then Sanji, always has been and always will be
>> No. 27894
Man, don't be that guy. One Piece isn't about power levels and being the best, it's about adventure and working as a crew-cum-family. Sanji's a vital part of the crew. Who gives a fuck what his power ranking is within the team as long as he's entertaining?
>> No. 27895
I love Sanji, its just that with time skip they've amped up the obsession with girls to 11. Zoro has proven himself, but Sanji so far has only teamed up with Jinbe to fight and gotten his shin cracked before a fight even began. Meanwhile, him having a fucking nosebleed was an important plot point.

I just wanna see him slug it out with someone tough alone and kick their shit in, it would be satisfying as fuck
>> No. 27897
Exactly, One Piece has only ever been about power levels to snub them.
CP9 was all about points and strength, and got their asses handed to them with technique and strategy.
Enel was all about his powerful voltage content and failed to imagine there'd be someone who wasn't affected at all by it. And when he found one... well we all know what happened there.
Big bads like Oars aren't taken down with special attacks or abilities. They require teamwork and understanding of the limits of a physical body.
>> No. 27898
When I thought about what Doflamingo's crew might be like a while ago, I thought it would be full of thugs and general mob-like characters, seeing how he runs a huge illegal slave trading operation and had guys like Bellamy working for him.

Now, apparently its like the fucking Adam's Family/Leatherface's family
>> No. 27899
Honestly with Doflamingo, you should have expected something weird like that from the start.
>> No. 27900
that's what I always liked about the series. with the right advantage or slight angle, almost anyone can beat anyone else

Usopp knew what Luffy could do, and he was kicking the crap out of his for the first half of the fight with slingshots and stink bombs!
>> No. 27901
Wait, so the kids turn into dragons.

...Didn't they eat that dragon at the beginning of the arc?
>> No. 27902
That one was made by Vegapunk. Only Caesar makes SAD.
>> No. 27903
Well, that fight's not exactly an example since it ends in Luffy's inevitable victory. That fight showed that strategy and tricks can't always make up for being utterly outclassed, and that Usopp was never going to be "stronger". It was part of the bit about how each crew member is better or worse at something, and thus being weak wasn't really a problem as long as there was something you could do and someone to fight for you.
>> No. 27905
So Doflamingo said "He might even be a better vessel than Law!!" in regards to Luffy.

Speculation here? Why do they want to use Law and Luffy's bodies? Some sort of scheme for Doflamingo to use his puppetry on them for something?
>> No. 27906

There was no mention of any vessels in either the mangastream version or Aohige's translation of T's spoilers. If it's something you read in the panda version then I urge you to disregard it completely because it was probably some stupid mistranslation.
>> No. 27907
.. you're not even reading this, are you..
>> No. 27908
Guys, just accept Sanji was already injured going into the fight and that Vergo is Luffy level and was uninjured. It wouldn't be the end of everything if he lost.
>> No. 27909
Also he can fly and is the de facto underwater powerhouse.
>> No. 27910
I wouldn't say that, Zoro is a monster in the water too. He moved almost instantaneously through it to cut down and beat Hody pre-steroids, a Merman.
>> No. 27911
I actually forgot that Nami got her ass kicked by Ceasar while in Sanji's body. I really hope he still has to fight somebody, because it'd be neat to see him fight someone with one leg injured. Also, I guess it does make sense for Vergo and Smoker to fight (that's what's been getting built up for a little bit now) but it still would've been neat to see Tashigi and an injured Sanji work together to beat him.
>> No. 27913
>Tashigi able to beat anyone at anything

>> No. 27916
But she wouldn't be--she'd be helping Sanji beat someone at something.
>> No. 27917
>Tashigi helping anyone at anything

>> No. 27918
Tashigi is useful! She, uh, stopped a... cannonball that one time... well actually she redirected it and didn't even destroy it...

also, she's...pretty?
>> No. 27919
I'd say she's 13 or 14 in the list of hot OP girls.

Behind Fat Alvida.
>> No. 27920
Hey now, redirecting a cannonball is a cool ability, if you redirect it you don't need to destroy it. Would you say the greatest swordsman in the world was lackluster for redirecting bullets instead of destroying them?

But yes Oda has completly dropped the (cannon)ball with her, I expect she will never do anything in battle of note and be a living example of Kuina's original stance that women can't be swordmasters, thier breasts dull thier blade or some such.

It's more likely Helmeppo of all people will be a badass master swordsman before her, because though his testes are small they are still present, and there is power in having a cock and set of balls in a shounen manga.
>> No. 27921
There are two situations to take into consideration.
1. Out of Nami and Robin and Vivi and every female villain or ally the show has ever had, Tashigi is the only one with zero skills, point, or use, and Oda just wrote himself into a corner with her being a girl that looks like Zoro's dead friend, and for some reason, can't even give her combat skills or goals.

2. She's going to have a big purpose in the future.
>> No. 27922
>Their breasts dull their blades
Uh, no. It's more about how they're naturally less athletic and suited for physical combat than men. Smaller bodies, smaller muscles, smaller brains, etc.
>> No. 27923

But does it even matter? Like, if you gave Mihawk's powerset to background tittymonster #whocares would it be implausible in any way? His whole thing is that what's most important are technique, precision, and insight, and that physical power doesn't really matter too much.

The whole things just circles back to Tashigi just being a fuckup, personally. Why did this even start again? She was in, what, a single page this week?
>> No. 27924

This kinda strengthens how there aren't any real strong female characters in One Piece, even the few powerful ones are subservient to someone. Tashigi is basically the best example of this, she cant fight for shit and she keeps her tail tucked between her legs.
>> No. 27925
Who cares? It's good regardless and very popular with female audiences all the same. No one's being alienated, Oda's just telling his story.

In the end, it's a boy's romance. And no one minds; Except maybe potential Tumblr slactivist feminazis.
>> No. 27926
It's feminism on the Internet. Whether it's worth discussing or not, it'll get discussed.
>> No. 27927
...Who the fuck is Robin subservient to? Or Hancock? Or Big Mam?
>> No. 27928
Hancock? Chick is a crazy rape victim who's worshipping Luffy because he smacked around her abusers,

Fairly sure she'd jump off a cliff if he told her to.
>> No. 27929
Or even going as far back as Alvida.
>> No. 27930
Also Nami isn't subservient to Luffy.

He's her Captain but she obviously has no qualms chastising him and it's quite clear they'd be lost without her.

... although you could argue out of all the Strawhats she tends to be the most problematic. Aarlong Park was all to save her city. Drum Island was caused by her getting sick. And Strong World also involved her as well.
>> No. 27931
Going back to old ass theories, what if Tashigi IS Kuina, and will stop being useless once she remembers that, or something.
>> No. 27932
>subservient because she's in love
>implying that this is a bad thing
That's what's wrong with marriage today.
>> No. 27933

Well you can't really count Strong World since it it's just a movie.
>> No. 27934
There's also the fact that as long as Luffy exists, he will always be the most problematic member of any organization he belongs to. Including his own. ESPECIALLY his own.
>> No. 27935

>Implying an unbalanced power dynamic in a romantic relationship is a good thing.


Equality = good. Inequality = baaaad.
>> No. 27936
Check out the wool on this sheep.
>> No. 27937
Alvida is Buggy's bitch, Robin was Croc's bitch and now under Luffy though she's probably the best example and Hancock? She's supposed to be a badass amazon leader of a group of women but now she's Luffy's bitch

Fuck, there's even a scene of her saying how she wants to be an obedient housewife, thats pretty damn bad.

Big Mam isn't a good example because they emphasize that shes basically a monster more or less and even though shes clearly powerful she's basically a joke character, living in fucking candy land ad demanding candy from the world. She isn't meant to be a strong female character, shes a monster whos gonna inevitably get her ass kicked by Luffy at some point
>> No. 27938

It is impossible to give a shit.

I'm sorry.
>> No. 27939
Feel free to take this to your Tumblr.
>> No. 27940

>Robin was Croc's bitch

Except when she tried to murder him casually?

Like, yea dude I can kinda see the Hancock argument. But you're really drawing for straws here.
>> No. 27941

That was a sweet murder attempt. I don't know why Oda only has her use weapons when she's not actively part of the crew, but it's a policy I wish he'd change.
>> No. 27942
>Alvida is Buggy's bitch
Really if anything, it's the other way around.
>> No. 27943

You should leave this place, you're starting things that is just stupid tumblr shit because all they have to do is complain about literally everything.
>> No. 27944
>Big Mam isn't a good example because they emphasize that shes basically a monster more or less and even though shes clearly powerful she's basically a joke character

How.. do you know all this? You know nothing of this character. Nothing. She's one of the four strongest pirates in the WORLD. She has scores of men and women working just for her. And she's not only a woman, she's a BIG woman.

Also Alvida is by no means "Buggy's bitch",in fact - if you've already forgotten - Alvida was the one who saved his life at one time and decided to bum off his crew cause she lost hers. She bullies his crew constantly and even him from time to time, so who's really who's bitch?

This argument really is retarded; just stop.
>> No. 27945
Why would she need weapons anyways? She takes out most guys bare-handed with little effort.
>> No. 27946
Christ. Whenever someone complains about One Piece not having "strong female characters" I have to ask. What other shonen are you reading? Because I've read Bleach. I've read Naruto. You have no fucking perspective on just how good One Piece has it in terms of egalitarianism.
>> No. 27947
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Well mostly because she looks neat with them, and what's Robin if not someone who maims people in neat looking ways?
>> No. 27948

One Piece is definitely a few large steps ahead of other popular shonen manga when it comes to having strong female characters (both in terms of characterization and literal combat prowess). Even before she was able to do more than whack people with a staff, Nami filled an indispensable role in the crew and had the full respect of her friends. Robin was introduced as a big goddamn threat, and the combination of her devil fruit power and esoteric knowledge makes her one of the most dangerous Strawhats. Similarly, several secondary female characters and villainesses stand out due to sheer dangerousness and/or strength of will (Vivi comes to mind).

That said, Oda isn't perfect. Nami and Robin haven't had proper one-on-one miniboss fights since the timeskip, Hancock's lovesickness (though amusing) has eclipsed her former imperious attitude, and Tashigi has never really been a proper rival for Zoro. On top of that, most women who aren't presented as comically ugly have an identical hourglass figure that seems like a waste of the artist's character design skills.

So yeah, it definitely could be a lot worse, and there are some great examples of how to do things right. But that doesn't mean no one has any right to complain when there's wasted potential. Maybe Tashigi will get better in the future, but the buildup is certainly gradual if that's what's happening.
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