>>388150
Speaking as someone who fell for it and responded...

...well done.

Mein Kampf topped Amazon ebook charts, a few groups are asking for its removal from the list.

>>388244
yep because that will send the correct message. I mean looking around it looks like its gaining because people can look it over and then judge it then delete it.

>>388245
Even beyond that, though, there is a lot of historical value to be found in reading the memoirs of a person who went down as bad a path as Hitler. It can help give us insights both into what sorts of things were going through his mind, and the thing that people never want to discuss which is....it can humanize him, and make us empathize with him.

Which, the kneejerk reaction would say is BAD because he's evil, but the fact that he's evil is exactly why humanizing him and empathizing with him is GOOD. If we see his human side and sympathize with what he says of his life, it reminds us that "I am capable of being just as despicable as he was, if I don't make the right choices with how to live my life."

That absolutely is something that people should know.

>>388246
those that don't learn are doomed to repeat. Though looking at man, has a bad habit of that anyway sadly.

>>388246
Kind of reminds me of pic related but on a larger scale.

>>388257
Those that learn history are doomed to watch those who did not and are in power repeat it.

A big thing for that right now is secret treaties. That was a huge part of why WWI happened; from what we know of current leaked treaties, it won't cause WWIII, but it will certainly fuck humanity over in a different fashion.

>>388265
yea some weird game of consolidation of global power some seems to be about stomping all over Europe, which nobody is happy about.

>>388267
I'm really hoping that the EU tells America to fuck off soon. Our country needs to be taken down a few pegs in many areas.

Most countries in the EU became "socialist" because they were bombed to hell and back in the early 20th century, and building back from that taught them the value of community and how being adversarial can be devastating. All America learned was that war=profit, because outside of Pearl Harbor we, as a country, were barely scratched by either war. I think that if we had suffered the same devastation at that time, we'd be a very different country politically.

Many of the "socialist" countries getting more right-wing governments (that are still left of America) is a sign to me of the generations that experienced such tragedy have died off or are mostly powerless/senile, and younger generations that don't understand the need for their systems (because no one pays heed to the silent doors, only the squeaky ones) are trying to tear them down.

>>388271
>Our country needs to be taken down a few pegs in many areas.
Your country is doing fine. Out of the 50 states there are maybe 10 or so that are kinda fucked up, and none of them at the level of some European countries like Albania or Moldova. The problem is that the American people get such a hardon outdoing each other in patriotism that they don't spot routine flaws in time to fix them.

>and building back from that taught them the value of billions in aid from USA
Fixd, the Marshall Plan isn't exactly a secret. Also EU only got socialist after importing the counterculture movement (~70s).

ARE WE TALKING UP CANADA, OH BOY LEMME JOIN!

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/11/nunavut-food-prices-protest-inuit-poverty_n_1588144.html

>Many of the "socialist" countries getting more right-wing governments (that are still left of America) is a sign to me of the generations that experienced such tragedy have died off or are mostly powerless/senile

Coincidentally, America is becoming more liberal as the old farts die off and take their racism, sexism, homophobia, and class warfare with them.

>>388348
The baby boomers are the hippie generation of America.

Are you people listening to yourselves? Your theories make no sense.

>>388356
won't find a more greedy and self centered generation among peoples. Born with silver spoons and thinking they should have all the spoons too.

>>388356
>baby boomers=hippies

er, no. Baby boomers are the children of the hippies, being born between 1946 and 1964 according to Wikipedia. Their defining trait is that they are the children of that generation, being born in the post-WWII "baby boom" that occurred when the troops came home, and being coddled by the relative affluence and abundance that their parents generation lived in. Baby Boomers were the first generation where the parents said "we're only going to be awesome parents", without anyone really understanding how to do that (i.e. maintain a certain level of discipline and order while still allowing relatively free exploration of ideas). The Boomers dominated through the 70s and 80s, Generation X being their children who were born largely disdaining the previous ideals of absolute freedom and general privilege, but still living with them. Millennials came around in the 90s and are largely children of the Net, many of them not having solid family lives or ideals because there hasn't really been a unifying theme amongst parents about how to handle what Millennials want to be (gay, gender-fluid, highly non-traditional, once again trying to re-accept minorities and people who have been structurally denied and with more of an eye towards the future than their parents). In the meantime, due to economic forces, we've seen a kind of population and intellectual schism emerge between Rural America and Urban America (and I don't mean African Americans, I'm talking large Urban Centers like New York, Detroit, Boston, Chicago, etc.). The difference in mentality is in part how some parts of the country could become so insular, particularly the rural parts, where it's very easy to go there and just forget that time passes. The Urban Centers have been battling other problems that come with large centralized populations, things like gun control, drug trafficking, failing or underfunded infrastructure that does not adequately make up for differences in the wealth of neighborhoods (poor neighborhoods get poor schools, wealthy neighborhoods get good schools), all in addition to the decentralization of business made possible by the internet and the increasing lack of "dumb" jobs in America, jobs where you didn't really need to know anything going in and the job itself was a kind of education in that industry.

The demographic shifts in geographic location seems to be what produces such wide variances of opinion and understandings of what is going on in the country. The gun control debate in particular is split between rural, where you need a shotgun or two to drive off foxes and such, and almost never use it on a person, and urban, where the crowds of people mean even holdout pistols are wildly dangerous.

Sorry, rambling. But your assumptions about what the baby-boomers are is slightly incorrect.

>>388356
Calling the Baby Boomers "the hippie generation" is like calling Generation X "the goth generation." It was a relatively small subculture that existed within the baby boomers' ranks. Probably 80-90% of the hippie population of America was at Woodstock.

>>388362
> The gun control debate in particular is split between rural, where you need a shotgun or two to drive off foxes and such, and almost never use it on a person, and urban, where the crowds of people mean even holdout pistols are wildly dangerous.
This is an important point, I think, and one that's not expressed enough. Not only is the divide roughly along rural/urban (except in Texas, where everyone is packing), when politicians get whipped into an anti-gun frenzy they tend to go after the types of weapons that would be used by the rural crowd for protection from wild animals or hunting over the types used by urban criminals for their own gain.

In addition, because of the proliferation of weapons in rural settings the owners tend to be more responsible and their children better understand how to safely handle (or avoid) firearms as well, even if they don't use them personally. My school had as part of its PE class a hunter's safety course, the end of which had a day of going to a shooting range and actually firing a weapon (might have been blanks, I can't recall; I was on a trip when it happened). Sure, there are still accidental shootings (see: Dick Cheney), but AFAIK they're not as prevalent as in cities where firearms aren't strictly controlled.

At least, anecdotally, all the small midwest towns I've lived in had a rifle or two in almost every home I entered, some even on display, but they were all behind thick glass and locked with the ammo stored separately.

Focusing more on the rural/urban split for a moment, it's an important piece of American politics. I support the idea of splitting the country into smaller countries that can be more homogenous, and then have an American Union with Mexico and Canada, but that will only do a bit to fix the rural/urban split. This is an interesting article about the "Urban Archipelago": http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=19813 I thought there was a domain with a really purdy version of this, but the attached image is sufficient. The giant population density in the cities is the primary reason that Democrats (the "left") get elected, but as you can see from the image the vast majority of the country (by land mass) is Republican, but they barely have the population density to catch up so you're more likely to have "swing cities" instead of "swing states".

This is also why gerrymandering is a problem, because politicians will take these cities and slice them up into super-weird-looking districts that expand into the rural areas to diminish the power of the cities as much as possible. It's why the rules need to change to make districts based on an algorithm as well as allow multiple reps for one district, so those large cities will have multiple reps where the top 5 or whatever win.

>>388367
>>388362
>Baby boomers are the children of the hippies, being born between 1946 and 1964 according to Wikipedia.
lol wow, you realize the counterculture sort of started in the early 60s, just when the first boomers would have been coddled 20-somethings?

WWII Americans return from war, USA replaces a ruined europe on world stage, there's a shitload of jobs and people have a lot of babies because they can. End result is a lot of babies (boomers) that were born during a time when America is arguably the easiest place in the world to live (ties into this >>388360). Resulting generation, with too much time on their hands goes off to get higher education... and also to get high and start the counterculture.

We need to introduce a class on recent history, because people apparently forget this shit.

>>388433
I'm not seeing how anything you said here is a response to >>388367.

>>388433
>because people apparently forget this shit.

Like you for example. And throw in reading comprehension lessons as well.

And your post doesn't refute anything because no one is claiming that these groups don't exist or that they weren't part of said groups. People are telling you that it's erroneous to refer to an entire generation of people as hippies seeing as they were a subculture.

>>388437
Oh wait, it's erroneous for me to say the boomer generation is responsible for the paradigm shift of the counterculture, something that's actually a true historical fact... but it's not erroneous for you to say they're all a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic class warriors, something which is just an ignorant opinion?

That's perfectly fair.

>>388439
I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. I'm just pointing out that referring to baby boomers as hippies is silly when hippies are a subset of baby boomers. Venn diagrams, yo.

>but it's not erroneous for you to say they're all a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic class warriors, something which is just an ignorant opinion?

Where did I do this?

And even if I did (I didn't--the post you just responded to was my first on the matter), that's an entirely different issue than you not knowing what a subset is.

Net Neutrality is dead apparently.

>>388450
Not quite, but it did get a huge gut punch.

>>388439
... what the fuck are you actually reading? Who said that? Who even implied that?

>>388452
time to get back to the next evolution of the internet talks.

>>388447
>>388481
see >>388348

Are you even part of this argument or did you just ignore 99% of it and come in at the end to be as much of a douchebag as possible?

NSA still assholes. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/16/nsa-collects-millions-text-messages-daily-untargeted-global-sweep
Sorry for our sins, UK friends.

>>388489
I don't see how pointing out that not all boomers are hippies makes me a douchebag.

I also still don't understand what you're even arguing against or why you're taking it out on me. Or what any of this has to do with you not knowing what a hippie is in the first place.

>>388489
Ahahahaha no. No, you need to work on your reading comprehension. As the older generations die off, a lot of Racists, Homophobes, and the like will pass on. That doesn't mean they're all racists and shit, it just means that we all have to die sometime, and when the eldest generation goes we're going to be losing a good chunk of racist, homophobic bullshit. They are similarly not all hippies. Your interpretation of the demographics isn't wide enough, you're thinking they're all 1 thing. It's like trying to define "gamer"; it's just a marketing term to describe a nebulous set of traits for the purposes of simplification.

http://www.israellycool.com/resources/buycott/

So in the past three days America's fascist police have beat a man half to death, beat a man to deaf and has literally torn the testicles of a 16 year old.

>>388741
shhh, no one cares, stuff is happening in ukraine

>>388741

Dude, this is america. Six armed cops can beat a unarmed, homeless schizophrenic to death while he begs for his life and calls for his dad to save him, have it all caught on video and audio, and get acquitted by a jury.

There's no fucking justice in this nation, and the cops are above the laws they enforce on us.

I live in a shitty 3rd world country.
Sometimes I'm amazed americans find stuff to complain about. As legit as their complaints are.

>>388774
Although if you own a PC and a net connection plus enough time to waste on imageboards you're probably in the upper crust for any third world country.

Which makes me wonder why you haven't sold your PC and bought a harem yet.

>>388775
Haha, joke's on you.
I have neither of those things.

And I've at the very least browsed imageboards because economic flow WAS a thing where I'm from, but due to this country's retarded-ass backwards anti-moneyflow corrupt government leaders the whole cash thing's come to a standstill, so
yeah,
maybe historically I would've been upper crust but since there's no dosh going nowhere except out, no, not anymore.

>>388801
Seriously though, fuck this country's fucked up laws not allowing for fucking anyone to actually develop any kind of business. Like, do people think all those people leaving the country illegally do so for kicks? Its completely an economic factor.

Yeah, I'm in the upper crust. Hell, anyone that's set foot in a school with the teacher actually knowing the teaching material qualifies as upper crust.
Which is remarkably few.

Fuck, I don't care, I just hope I can afford to leave for Gemany soon, myself.

>>388775
Its perfectly common to hire a cheap phone line or service in poor countries to just spend time online. Its the best way to forget how shitty the place you live in is.

>>388801

What country? If you can't say, what region? It's not Iran, is it?

>>388801
>>388803
Cuba?

It's incredibly douchey anywhere. "We're stuck on this shit of a country, so you're stuck with us, like it or not".

>>388880
Not him, but probably Mexico.

>Watching SOTU
>Talking about all the other countries the US helped this year with humanitarian aid, rebuilding facilities, etc.
>Not a single clap
>Mentions the Winter Olympics
>Wild clapping, hooting, congressmen start chanting "USA! USA! USA!"

I nearly died laughing

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/01/26/266685819/billionaire-compares-outrage-over-rich-in-s-f-to-kristallnacht?ft=1&f=1006
>"I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its 'one percent,' namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the 'rich.'
This is why we can't have nice countries.

>>388891
I dunno. That kinda makes sense to me.
Humility in kindness, boldness in competition.

Sometimes my response to racism isn't rancor but confusion and disappointment due to it just trying WAAAAAAAY too hard to be racist.

Like come on, your brain hears Erica and turns it into this?

>>388903

I'm guessing you have never watched a SOTU, but they clap for almost every sentence normally.

>>388916
Interviewers usually ask the person they talk to how to spell their names. At least they did the one time I was interviewed.

>>388916
Nah; she just wrecks air. Aang better watch out!

>>388916
Maybe she's named in honor of an airplane wreck?