Then Aang punches him in the temple and founds Republic City, an urban technological wonderland composed of citizens from all over the world.

>>112097

Casual reminder that Sozin was right.

>>112099
I will never stop finding it funny that, at the end of The Promise, Zuko decided he needed to try and reconnect with the Avatr part of his lineage - despite the fact that the Avatar he's related to was encouraging his death, and that he effectively ended up supporting Sozin's viewpoint instead of Roku's.

>never reaching for the skies above you

u just mad cuz u can't fly anymore without your firebending

>>112101

I don't think Zuko ever said anything about connecting to the "Avatar" side of his lineage, but simply a "better side."

Plus, I don't think he was really aware of how much Roku was encouraging his death or how much Aang was in contact with him, aside from the Roku that appeared in his dream.

>>112104
He never mentioned the Avatar, just spoke about connecting to a part of his heritage that isn't so "murky or confusing" through his mother. Since 'The Avatar and the Fire Lord' made a thing about how it was the clash between the two heritages that caused all the turmoil for Zuko, I just found it kinda amusing that Zuko seems to think that connecting to that side of the family, directly after following in the footsteps of the other, is a good idea.

>>112105

Even Aang kinda said in response to that "You mean Roku's side? Yeah, Zuko, I don't think that side is all that great either."

Zuko just seems to be thinking that his mother is the good side and his dad is the bad side. Basically, he thinks his mother is an unblemished saint he can look up to with absolute confidence, Roku or no Roku.

I just wonder if The Search is going to shatter that reality for him or not. I'm hoping that Ursa turns out to be flawed in some significant way.

>>112104

That's Zuko for ya: the Bad Idea Lord.

The inconsistencies kinda made The Promise not live up the expectations. The Search seems to go down the same path.

>>112122

I actually applaud The Promise's making The Fire Nation's war as having brought some good. Ozai is still the villain all the same and the conflict gets some much needed depth, making The Fire Nation less of a generic evil empire and the conflict a little less white vs black. It also reasserts a point made in the show itself that it wasn't The Fire Nation that was bad, but just it's corrupt leaders.

I also thought it tackled an issue that was never really addressed in the show: that the maintaining of separation between the four nations is more or less just racial segregation.

>>112125

Granted the whole trilogy could have used some better execution, but a lot of its basic ideas were rather profound in their own sort of way. In my opinion, the show actually made the Fire Nation look so corrupt that it's hard to believe it's redeemable in any way. The Promise makes it a little easier to believe Zuko can redeem his nation.

The Promise sure had its flaws.
Too many OCs, Roku acting OOC, and:

"Hey Aang if I ever go evil I want you to do to me what you didn't do to my father so kill me OK"

It read like bad fanfiction.

>>112128
>Too many OCs
to be fair they couldn't really explore the kind of issue the promise presented without putting a face to the people who were caught up in the middle of it all.

and what the fuck does oc mean in this conext anyway, they're all technically canon characters.

>>112129

>and what the fuck does oc mean in this conext anyway, they're all technically canon characters.

it means the same thing as saying it reads like "bad fanfiction,"

>I don't like it and I think it sucks.

Although I wish people would just say that.

>>112129
Original characters, meaning they aren't from the source material. So Kori (who I kinda liked), Toph's students and the acolytes.

>>112136

>Original characters, meaning they aren't from the source material.

Technically they are from the source material

>>112137
Shh, don't spoil his Pretend Time. He's having so much fun pretending to be a critic!

Bryke wrote The Promise themselves, but you've got to agree that the script doesn't come near the animates series. The newly introduced charactes (I won't call them OCs) are a bit wooden and stale even though they live in the most progressive land from the entire world.

The conflict between Aang and Zuko, it didn't manage to suspend disbelief to me because it was obvious how they would solve it by creating Republic City.
I don't know if this is a case of 'Victory is boring' or what not and I wouldn't say the comic sucks because obviously most of you liked it and dare anyone hurt anybody else's feelings on the internet.

The Search isn't doing it to me either. I don't know if it happens to any of you but while the world seemed wide and ample on the screen, the comics make me feel cabin fever.

>I don't know if it happens to any of you but while the world seemed wide and ample on the screen, the comics make me feel cabin fever.

Can't really say that does happen to me, no. If anything I feel like the comics are fleshing the world out a little more.

>>112137
Nah, source material is the animated series itself. The Promise is part of the canonical continuity, and thus an extension of the source material, but since it has a different writer, it, much like the EU for many other settings, isn't actually part of the source material.

>>112154
>>it has a different writer

Bryke appear as writers for The Promise.

>>112154

Yang only co-wrote the comics.

>>112155
From what I recall of the interviews, the only input Bryke had was "you can't do this" and "sure, go ahead". They vetoed everything, which makes sense, but they didn't work as actual writers for the comic. Consultants, at best.

>>112157

FYI, that's not any different than how the writing for the average episode of the tv show went.

>>112154
>it has a different writer
90% of the television series wasn't written by Bryke, either. The "Showrunner" is in charge of keeping things consistent, establishing the rules of the show, and making sure that there's a single vision unifying the entire work, but they only rarely write individual episodes--usually season premieres, season finales, and major milestones in the plot or character arcs.

Television is a collaborative process--it is not a novel. Every indication is that Bryke was as involved in The Promise as they were in, say, The Boiling Rock--the first half of which was written by May Chan and the second half of which was written by Joshua Hamilton.

Actually, the only episodes of the series that at least one member of Bryke wrote the script for were:
* The Pilot
* 1x01: The Boy in the Iceberg
* 1x02: The Avatar Returns
* 1x03: The Southern Air Temple
* 1x08: Avatar Roku
* 1x13: The Blue Spirit
* 1x18: The Waterbending Master
* 2x6: The Blind Bandit
* 2x13: The Serpent's Pass
* 2x14: The Drill
* 2x19: The Guru
* 3x10: The Day of Black Sun, Part 1: The Invasion
* 3x18: Sozin's Comet, Part 1: The Phoenix King
* 3x20: Sozin's Comet, Part 3: Into the Inferno
* 3x21: Sozin's Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang

Meaning, together, they only wrote the scripts for 25% of the series. If you are defining The Promise as EU solely because the primary writer of the script wasn't Bryke, you're going to have to consider 75% of the TV series to be EU, as well.

>>112158
>>112159
Except, as already pointed out, Bryke actually wrote part of the series, showing more of an involvement in the creative processes of the show than they did in the Promise's. Whilst much of the show was written by other individuals, those episodes were either the embellishment or core part of the show's ongoing story - whereas the Promise, in contrast, is not the direct product of somebody involved in the original body of work, and is itself not part of the original body of narrative.

I don't mean to degrade the Promise (since it was a different anon who was likening it to "bad fanfiction"), but it's a derivative work, albeit an official one. Since it's derived from the show, describing the show as the 'source material' is perfectly valid.

I'm hoping they don't take Azula's bending at the end of "The Search".

>>112181

She is going to be too shocked by finding out Ozai isn't her real father to do anything.

>>112182
Huh?
I don't really think any of them is a bastard child. Well, I hope they won't write that... It would be kind of lame.

>>112181
Azula's probably going to be locked up in the asylum again, though in a far better state than she was at the comic's beginning.

>>112182
>Our son