So we get a chapter that's half people reacting to some news that was first mentioned two chapters ago, and we're still not told what it is. OK, that's kind of annoying.

>>9542
It has to be something about something Luffy has done since the Revolution, probably something the government is pinning on him, otherwise Croc's sexy ass wouldn't be so pissy.
Also it's good to see manly Sanji.

Dragon's sort of magnificent too.

So... Buggy as next Shichibukai?

Luffy totally beat the shit out of another Tenryuubito which Rayleigh told him to so that the crew could get past Shabondy head to Fishman Island and meet up with him there.

THIS IS DOCTOR HAL'S PREDICTION!

BuggyxMr.3 BFFS!!!

so who is going to fill the other two spots for warlords?

>>9545
That's what I was thinking.

If Buggy becomes a Warlord.. I will not be pleased. Also, what the hell is up with Sanji's magical return to his "heterosexuality"? It bugs me that there's no explanation behind that at all.
Damn it, I wanted Okama Sanji!

Also, the plot within the next few chapters better start picking up, cause Oda has had us stuck in the same rut plot cliffhanging for the past month or so.

The plot thickens: the chapter

>>9550

johnny and yosaku

Shit was good to me. I mean, not the best. But a chapter with Dragon that is actually talking? He is a benefied FILF.

Typical Oda, nothing really happens but it's an engrossing chapter nonetheless.

I'm just happy that Dragon got some screentime.

Also I noticed a rather sudden change in Oda's style.

Why is no-one talking about Crocodile?
Also...

>And as proof, I'm heading...to the "New World," for once in a while...!! Wanna come along?
>Of course

>>9550
>two spots
I forget, has Hancock been formally expelled from the group like Crocodile already?

>>9561
Blackbeard and Jimbei.

>>9562
Thought I was forgetting someone. Thanks.

>>9562
Don't forget Moria. Even if he isn't really dead, it's being reported.

>>9552
Yeah, I'm kind of sad that Sanji is back to normal so quickly, but I think hearing about Luffy would bring him out of all that. Though it'd still be nice to see Okama housewife Sanji...

Great chapter. Not much happened, but what did happen was awesome. Warlord Buggy has me conflicted; on the one hand he'll be a major player in everything again, on the other I'd rather see him stay out of that group.

Wait, I think I saw a possible plothole.

Wasn't the bridge older than the WG? Then how could it have been order from the Nobles?

>>9565
Nobles have great great great (etc) grandparents too, who were most likely still, well, Nobles

>>9566
But the Nobles, as a title, only existed AFTER the WG was founded...

>>9568
Point taken... but still, I don't think it should be too read-into. It doesn't really feel like something Oda would overlook so easily.

>>9568
Well, it could've been started by the group that the Nobles descended from. But >>9569 has a point.

You guys sure are confused. The World Government was founded 800 years ago:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/497/19/

Construction on the bridge started 700 years ago:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/07/

>>9572
Easy, the bridge starts before the WG, but the Celestial Dragons, finding nit incomplete, order to finish it, knowing it's original purpose. Point is, the bridge costruction becoming a punishment to prisoners started with the WG.

>>9579
>>9578
Well that takes care of it, then.

I know you are pissed about the Sanji being manly again, but i'm calling it now. The dress is transformative. He'll get in a tough fight and the only way to win will be to put on the dress, remember the memories ok him as an okama and use okama kenpo.

Also, if buggy is a sichibukai, i will be pleased. He the Mr. Satan of One Peice

Also, the drawing style IS getting darker. Fits, considering we're moving into the second half of the grand line.

Someone needs to shoop up a page of HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER between Croc and Daz.

>>9581
Get out.

>>9586
because?

>>9581

I think Oda is just getting better at drawing manlier men. WAY better. Fucking Dragon's face threw me off guard.

Well.

Okay.

This was kind of nothing but buildup, Oda, and you raised yet more questions and answered nothing. At least we got to see how Buggy and Croc ended up, but other than that, I could not care less for this chapter. At all.

>>9586
You one of those people that cry and bitch that 'Oda made Sanji a faggot! Ruined Forever!'?

Can we focus on MANLY AS FUCK Dragon and SEXY HAS HELL Crocodile?

>>9591

>>9593

>>9581
Yeah. I'm guessing that most of the Strawhat upgrades won't become evident until the first major fights to come. You know that subjecting Sanji to trauma like that is going to have residual effects...

...and nobody is talking about the horrible connotations of Kuma showing up again? Hell, even Dragon has no idea what the guy's plan is, but more importantly, the government's unstoppable new engine of destruction is confronting the remaining Strawhat allies in Sabaody. This might not end well.

>>9596
yeah... I don't know why I didn't freak out about that... Maybe because

- Shakki's probably the only person on the boat with a bounty, and something tells me she can take care of herself

- Oda's NOT gonna let Sunny be destroyed

- If Kuma-Droid does manage to confiscate Sunny, where's he gonna take it? Marineford is blown to shit thanks to QUAKERSTATE .

>>9596
Kuma (or at least the Pacifistas) seem to be the WG's executioner(s) of sorts now, possibly commanded by Doflamingo if Moria's "death" is any indication.

>>9587
>>9590
Cause the post is complete and utter shit written by a moron. No simpler reason.

it'd actually be cool if Sanji entered an Okama-like state of mind when facing off against some Kalifa-like bitch. He'd kick ass like the drunken master, unintentionally harming the opponent.

think of it like Franky's vegetable juice concoction, but even fruitier.

Sabo is Doc Q.

>>9602
You're still overreacting to it, heavily

>>9605
YOU'RE overreacting to it!

PEGGY I'VE GOT PROPANE IN MY URETHRA

>>9588
I'm sure you fucking his face surprised Dragon as well.

>>9604
This man speaks reason.

So Dragon's ship confirmed for eastern-style dragon. Which means he's probably not going to breath fire any time soon.

Also, holy shit Crocodile looked hot in this chapter. Well, hotter.

Also Inazuma's female again! I hope we see him/her again after this.

How is Crocodile any "hotter"..?
He's literally wearing the exact same get-up he always wears, just in a different color scheme (maybe)..

I've honestly never understood why people think he's so hot.

>>9617
Because he's manly, suave, and tall?

>>9618
He's also hideously scarred, has the eyes of a blood hound on its best day and has the skin of a rotting squash.
Sengoku's tall, manly and suave, and you don't see the fangirls creaming themselves over him..

>>9619
Those are some really distressing assumptions you're making. Croc's scar isn't nearly as bad as Zoro's (also hot), and Sengoku isn't suave, he's a stick in the mud.

His scar is most definitely not hideous.

Rule of thumb: if a character's scar is drawn onto their face instead noticeably altering the shape of their face there is a 0% chance of it causing viewers of the opposite sex to find that character ugly, and a 60% or higher chance of it appealing to or causing a scar fetish.

>>9622
>scar fetish
YOU RANG?

>>9619
>He's also hideously scarred, has the eyes of a blood hound on its best day and has the skin of a rotting squash.
My kind of man.

Arguing with fangirls.. Goodness, what was I thinking.

>>9626
:3c

>>9626
How about this, don't argue stupid things. Croc is one of the most attractively drawn dudes in One Piece. At least argue that he's a horrible person, you might win that one.

>>9626
>arguing with fangirls
It's like trying to make shit smell good just by yelling at it

>bitching about fangirls
>most awesome fandom shit produced by said fangirls
o u gaiz

>>9636
Never before has a sword's second edge cut so deep.

>>9631
Trust me, that road leads to nowhere.

>>9636
>Dr Nurse

Oh hey look at that, opinion invalidated.

>>9631

It comes down to individual taste. Arguing hat he isn't or that he is is retarded in itself. This is not some kind of science. You cannot prove ether side wrong.

...

That said. Oda knows how to draw manly men like "God damn!" all of the sudden.

Here's some of my thoughts on the chapter so we can get off of this topic that will only lead to ruin and foolishness.

-Ivankov? More like Ivankocktease, amirite?
-I'm glad Vivi appeared. I'm glad she's still represented as a member of the crew.
-Buggy is going to become a shichibukai, although I really want him to be declared King of the Pirates in my heart of hearts.
-The tenryubito theory is probably the most likely one for Luffy, but I am hoping that Silvers's plot involves Bon Clay in some way. The dialogue between Crocodile and Daz Bones is what put it in my mind. The line about wounds disappearing specifically.

>"Why are fangirls attracted to Crocodile?"
>"Here's why."
>"You're a fangirl so I'm not listening to you."
Don't ask questions you don't want answered.

And the only reason that people find Crocodile hotter now than during the "Whitebeard vs. World Government" arc is because his behavior is more evocative of the way he acted back in Alabasta what with the scheming and the shit-eating grins.

>>9619

Sengoku is tall and manly(or was in the past) but he isn't suave, that's for sure. 1. He has stupid facial hair
2. he has an afro
3. he's a square

fangirls like things like this in villains
1. they're bad, but not irredeemably so
2. they're handsome
3. some kind of deformity or serious injury, a disease could also work
4. medium-long hair
5. pulled back/slicked back hair

look at all the most beloved villains and tell me they don't have atleast two of these.

>>9642
See
>>9631
That's why I'm not about to start arguing with fangirls, cause the "valid" response I'm gonna get is nothing short of incoherent bullshit laced with their drool.

>>9644
You are an angry person.

>>9647
If you say so.
Great addition to the conversation, by the way.

>>9648
That's why I saged. I try to sage whenever I'm just voicing an opinion that's irrelevant to the topic at hand.

>>9643

>>9641
>>I'm glad she's still represented as a member of the crew.

I'm sorry what? I know that people really like the idea of Vivi being a crew member, but for someone who not only has an entire country to run but hasn't been seen since her single story arch up until this point in the story, that's just incredibly unlikely bro.

>>9701
I think he means that even though she has a job to do, she's still a Strawhat at heart.

>>9701
Honorary crew member. She can't be with them, of course, but they're still her crew and she's still theirs.

>>9641
Oh fuck.

I just realized in horror that that could happen

Like, at the very end of it all, Luffy turns back because having nakama he could trust is his bigger dream, and he's so high tier now he has the freedom he wanted but choosing the treasure means loosing one of the crew.

So Buggy gets ahold of one piece cause it's just sitting there, and is declared pirate king.

This maybe belongs in the speculation thread, but you just put that in my head. Shit.

>>9710
Like Roger would really leave a treasure like that.

>>9643
>Croc
>redeemable.

no. Lets stop and think about what a monster this guy is. He goaded a whole country into a war and murdered hundreds just to get his hands on some dirty super weapon. If he becomes a good guy, I need Oda to keep this in mind. Despite Luffy, pirates are NOT good people.

Also, I think Sengokus a pretty cool guy. He's Garp's bro, he knows when to end a war and he hates the truth being covered up.

>>9718
Sengoku's a good man, just a pragmatic one who has to put up with a lot of shit. Even disregarding his blatantly evil higher-ups, just look at all his highest ranked marines.

>>9718
Sengoku is pretty awesome

Croc's a sandy tool

>>9718
Yeah, I figured he'd be more of the Akinu type, but it seems he's basically smoker if that man compromised.

>>9718

It's unlikely Croc would ever become a full good guy, but I could see him being an ally or an anti-villian/anti-hero type. It does seem to be implied that he has a sympathetic backstory we haven't heard yet.

>>9718
>no. Lets stop and think about what a monster this guy is. He goaded a whole country into a war and murdered hundreds just to get his hands on some dirty super weapon.

You do realize goad a country into war and watch hundreds or even millions get slaughtered is the Revolutionaries MODUS OPERANDI.

But I digress, Croc may go neutral but he can never be 'Good'

He has to represent what Luffy could always become, a murderous bastard who is willing to do anything for his goals, Just like Papa!

>>9868
I still think it's hilarious that Croc is irredeemable (he is, don't get me wrong), but Hancock is fucking free game to become the best nicest person ever. She kicks adorable animal and kills hundreds of men for no fucking reason other than "FUCK BITCH I AM BOA". At least Croc had a plan. Also he loved his crocodiles. So I mean, yeah.

>>9870

I think he's beyond redemption at this point, but learning about his backstory will be interesting. He might end up being Brutus and we're watching the show through the eyes of Marcus Antonius instead.

>>9870
I'm just saying that his Dad is as bad as Croc if not worse, He does the exact same thing that Croc did except on a world wide scale. Infact he WOULD have done it himself to Alabasta because they work for the world government.

Do people think the revolutionaries would go "Oh hey the Kings a good leader, lets leave him alone?"

Nope he would have done the same thing. It wouldn't shock me if Croc was an agent sent to do just that.

And yes Dragon is Canon doing this, the last bounty updates had him at a recently finished rebellion base.

>>9626
>thinking
>arguing with fangirls

Hm.

Crocodile's pretty awesome, but comparatively, there are hotter characters in OP. For instance, Raylei--ImeanAce.

>>9718

I didn't say croco-boy was redeemable, I was just listing off popular things with the fangirls

>>9874
You're not hiding anything, we all know about your old man fetish Tim.

Also I think this is like, I think it comes down to ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE AWFUL, whether or not they're redeemable is hard to say because while the crew can forgive them their trespasses, that doesn't mean that the reader necessarily does, and it certainly doesn't mean the people whose lives they ruined will.

>>9873
There is at least ONE slight difference (well, maybe two) between Croc and the Revolutionaries. The first, is that the audience doesn't see most of what the Revolutionaries do. That helps make them more likable by a LARGE margin, seeing as we never actually know what kind of crimes put someone like Kuma or Ivankov in such hot water. But secondly, the Revolutionaries are portrayed as good intentioned group going down an insanely violent path. Croc has never shown such good intentions: everything he's done is either for himself, or out of outright petty spite. He didn't just not care about others around him, he meticulously destroyed anyone around him just to show off that he could.

>>9877
and? Dragon would have done the exact same thing, The revolutionaries have caused the deaths of millions of innocent lives by inciting riots around the world. We all thought Sengoku was EEEVIL because of 'cover up the poneglyphs' but we all changed our minds after the war, so... If it's revealed Croc did everything under Dragons orders, does that redeem him or condemn the revolutionaries. Likewise Buggy was a giant prick yet he's been redeemed through comedy.