For those curious, here's our writer's current three Caster Route threads:
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2830497
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2832137
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2837942

Of course this is all assuming we can get some extra help. We might not, who knows.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2839294

4th thread

You tried posting this idea over at the renpy place as well?
They have a forum for this kind of stuff, I think.

how do you even do the hacking?

The biggest problem I can foresee is that the CYOA is written in 2nd(?) person whereas VNs are strictly 1st person in most scenes. As a result, we get a huge leak of meta-knowledge and character interactions, particularly dialogue, suffer a lot.

Personally, I think Caster Route is better standalone as a CYOA, not VN. It simply doesn't fit the tone of VNs..

>>13384

This one is better, its the full 5th thread.
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2844372#p2845850

>>13387
It could be rewritten, the OP already said if he had the resources to put it in he would do it.

>>13387
Well, yeah. Think of it as a rough draft. Things obviously need to be changed.

>>13385
No idea, that's what this would be for, getting people who do.

kirikiri is fucking easy to hack. I'm sure takajew will even give you the tools.

>>13392
HOLY, REALLY?

>>13393

Well really you don't even need to hack kirikiri, even though it's child's play. You just have to edit the xp3 or wherever it stores the script. kirikiri is just onscripter on steroids so if you know how to code that the rest should be easy. I'm sure takajew will tell you where the script is located, unless it's done with one of the patches, I didn't really follow the technical stuff.

This place is... cushy. I like it!

>>13397
>who is takajew

>>13389
It's good that Writebro's volunteering to rewrite a lot of the story, but that saddles him with a huge workload. Not to be insulting to Writebro, but one-person projects tend to eventually stagnate or die. Everyone's being way too optimistic about this. There was a Touhou VN project several months ago that had a pretty big staff and team of writers (pretty prolific ones on THP) and that died pretty quickly only to revive and die again. .

>>13399
Optimism is wonderful though! Besides, this is /coc/, the entire point is recruiting.

Whats the thread limit here?

If people here bitch we could possibly take this to /writ/?

The virus VN that I was supposed to work on seems to have stagnated/died and I'm bored, I'd be willing to write something.

>>13402
Well we kind of got ran out of /jp/ earlier so we're trying to pick a place to settle in. It's down to either easymodo or here.

Alright so we're settled on here. We'll keep the CYOA thread going and (maybe) gather staff for a (possible) project?

Bookmarking this page now. Awesome.

>>13400
I'm just worried about a load of people volunteering and then disappearing a week later. The first successful /jp/ project would really be awesome, but there's a reason that we've never had one before.

It's probably best not to assemble a team or plan a project until the story is finished, otherwise things could get too stressful and the story will stop.

>>13406
Fuck /jp/, we are anathema to them no, except when we want Tohou porn. We are now the Republic of Caster. Or something stupider than that.

what can we do if we want to mess around with the VN?

<--- willing to help

>>13407
Also this.

>>13409
No visual novel right now, though if someone wanted to get some info out of takajun that'd be cool. Right now, let's just enjoy the CYOA thread.

>>13411

yeah, im just curious how it works

>>13412
Then go ask away fetchanon.

>>13409
I'd be interested in this. Might dick around with kirkiri a little for the hell of it.

>>13408
Overreacting is only going to complicate things. Please don't pull stupid shit like this. Make your decision about everything after you've had a few days to think things through. We're all /jp/sies here and it'd be a bad idea to target our only definite common ground right now.

>>13415
Sarcasm friend. Sarcasm.

And thank god, I thought we were /jp/edos all this time. /jp/sies is MUCH better.

>>13416
Sarcasm is hard to pick up from text. My apologies.

>>13417
Eh, happens. You know, say this actually happens and we get it in. What do you think would happen if Nasu ever saw it?

>>13418
He'd probably find it hysterical. At least that's the impression I've always got of him.

>>13418

He won't. He hates gaijins.

>>13413

fetchanon?

so what was the last choice we were debating on? go visit sakura?

>>13420
But, he loves gaijin main heroines.

>>13421
We died from that. We're going to the market now.

>>13421
Visiting the slut got us killed by TA and turned into worm food.

I think shopping for breakfast won, though I'd rather go to the dojo.

>>13421
I'll repost the last bit.
---

Everyone's asleep. You're worried about Sakura. With Shinji out of the war and hiding at the church you decide to pay her a visit and make sure she's ok.

You trek across town to the familiar hilltop residence. The journey takes less then twenty minutes. Its early, but you expect Sakura will be up. You ring the doorbell and wait.

"Can I help you young man?" an elderly gentleman asks after opening the door. He's very old and using a cane to support himself, his pale features and beady eyes looking you up and down.

"My name is Shirou, I'm a friend of Sakura's. I wanted to check up on her after the incident at the school yesterday and make sure she's ok."

"Ahh, so you're the Shirou I've heard so much about. I am Matou Zouken, Shinji and Sakura's grandfather. Please come in."

You follow him into the estate that you have not entered in over a year.

"It's good to see Sakura has people worried about her. She's feeling a little ill, but she's helping me with some chores in the basement. Let me show you the way."

You don't recall there being a basement to Sakura's house when you played here as a child with Shinji. Zouken leads you to a dark, narrow stone corridor. An odd smell assaults your nose.

"Please forgive us, but we had a problem with water getting trapped down and there's a slight smell. Watch your step."

You descend into the darkened basement with Sakura's grandfather. As you near the bottom, your blood starts pumping. Your heart rate picks up. Thump. Thump. Thump. Suddenly every hair on your body stands up. The smell is worse down here. It's too dark to see.

"I guess we could use a little light."

A soft glow illuminates the room. Your head spins. It takes a moment for your mind to register the scene before you. You see worms everywhere. Crawling on the floor. Crawling on the walls. Then you notice. Sakura is kneeling in the middle of the floor, her head low, hair covering her face. Worms are crawling over her, going under her clothes, exploring her body. You nearly vomit.

"Beautiful isn't it? I'm so glad you came by to visit us, especially without your Servants! What a thoughtful little gift!"

Quickly you raise your hand and go to use a command spell. "Caster come to me!" you shout. Nothing happens. When you look to your hand, you realize its gone. An involuntary scream comes from your throat. A sound. You look to its source. You see a man in black, with a white skull mask grinning at you. He holds your hand up for you to see. You back away and slip. You fall on your back. Suddenly worms swarm you. They bite you, tearing out chunks of your flesh. Sakura never moves. As you go into shock, the last thing you see is the laughing face of Matou Zouken.

Bad End.

I'd explore Sakura's body, if you know what I mean.

I`m doing an Ilya route if anyone`s interested.

I'm gonna pick this back up tomorrow with the "Go shopping" option. It was second place in votes.

I have some kirikiri2 knowledge, and can help out if you guys end up going in that direction.

>>13428
The Ilya Route so far
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ecbfd267565632e65a3d773badf21430e04e75f6e8ebb871
I'm no expert on all the fancy stuff in the Fate world so there might be problems with that. It has a reasonable while left to go and I plan to edit it, so this isn't final.

>>13429
Thank you so much for carrying on with this story.

I'll be checking back here tomorrow.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that thought about alternate routes in FSN. I actually fleshed out a whole series of routes a while ago that involved Joan of Arc being summoned but I never had the drive or courage to do anything with it.

>>13394
Looks like it is easy as fuck, there's no real 'hacking' to be done since all the tools are available. Just dick around with the scripting and insert some stuff.

>>13431
Wow, that's pretty damn good. There are some grammatical issues here and there and Kiritsugu's name is spelt wrong, but it's fairly plausible as a whole. I do have some grievances such as Shirou's reliance on Black Keys when he can trace infinitely-better Noble Phantasms, but the writing style is very close to Nasu's which I applaud you for.

>>13436
Thanks. I did try to keep it close to Nasu's style, felt like it would be wrong if I let my peculiarities get in the way of the story. I had to make a lot of changes to get Shirou right, he's too simple minded for my style.

As for the black keys, I did that because of the part when Kotomine stuck assassin to the tree in HF and he couldn't move. I'm assuming that that's because of the key's themselves. I would think that's best for fighting against a servant. Like I said, I'm not an expert on these things. That, and I needed a reason for Kotomine to stay with him.

>>13436
and my god, I can't believe I've been reading Fate/Zero and hadn't noticed it was kiritsugu, will fix

>>13437
I believe Kotomine mentioned that the Black Keys can't score a fatal blow on a servant during his fight vs. TA. Normal conceptual weapons are really weak compared to NPs.

An A-rank weapon is only equal to a C-rank NP and Black Keys are way down the scale in terms of power relative to other conceptual weapons.

I suggest specifically reading through

http://web.archive.org/web/20070714160825/fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Artifact

for NP and other weapons-related stuff and then the rest of the wiki if you want really thorough coverage of the Nasuverse.

>>13440
But sealed movement = disabled servant. I don't think you need to kill it if what you're after is the master. Furthermore at that point I don't think Shirou had any good weapons to materialize that would really help him against a servant.

Will look over that site still.

Caster route continues from where? Did we even have a vote after the dead end?

Second place was going to the market for breakfast ingredients, I think.

Wait, if Rule Breaker can reverse any form of thaumaturgy, shouldn't Gil's corruption by the grail be reversible?

i dont think gil is exactly manageable even without the corruption

>>13441
Servants are perfectly capable of freeing themselves. They all have an innate resistance to most conceptual weapons because they're such high level spirits. True Assassin, who is weak as hell as a servant, freed himself in the VN. I'd imagine a stronger servant would be shrugging off the Keys like Arc did in Tsukihime. This is assuming that you can hit them in the first place since TA was only hit by pure chance after his NP failed to kill Kotomine.

>>13470

I guess it depends on how much the grail corrupted his personality. I mean, he is supposed to be Chaotic Good, yet he's been eating orphans, and if Ataraxia is any indication of his 'true' personality then... maybe.

Then again I haven't read Zero.

>>13473
He's still a douchebag in Zero

maybe we should make another thread on 4chan to let people know the caster stuff is here

>>13476
Only once WriteBro comes back.
No point gathering them here now when there's nothing going on yet.

Anyone ever get a response from moot?

>>13479
Yes, a year ago. No CYOAs on /jp/. Mods agreed. Moot is a faggot.

>>13481
>>>the guy who created and maintains 4chan at his own immense expense is a faggot

>>13482
...nope. Still a faggot.

Writebro here. I'm gonna start writing again on Sunday afternoon. I just had too much to do today. Check back tomorrow and there will be an update.

>>13484
Writebro, you really need to adopt a tripcode.

>>13485

But I generally hate tripfaggery. Must I?

>>13487
It'll make it easier for us to keep track of your posts. If it really bugs you, you can stick to only using it when posting in your official capacity as Writebro, and then post anon other times.

>>13488
alright

A new faggot is born!

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>13490
Look, why are you even here?

>>13490
We're all hurt and dismayed by your accusations. brb, slitting my wrists.

>>13488
Honestly, all you have to do to find his posts is to look for a thumbnail depicting Caster or another FSN character. It's a hell of a lot easier to detect than a bit of extra green text.

>>13493
He only posts the Caster images when he's doing an actual story post. When he's answering a question or clarifying something, he doesn't use an image.

And to be fair, anyone can post a Caster image.

>>13494
Point taken, but he might as well post a picture with everyone of his replies, perhaps of Great Teacher Lancer.

Even if others do post pictures, it is generally faster, at least in my experience, to use thumbnails coupled with blocks of text as markers for story updates while scrolling down the page.

Also, to turn your second argument around, anyone can use a tripcode too, yourself being an example.

Of course, there's no reason for him not to adopt both approaches, but by the transitive property of the internet, mine is better because.

>>13495
Yes, but it is almost impossible (certainly it is more effort than any impostor would put forward) to get an exactly identical trip. And as there has already been an impostor in the past...

>>13495
Anyone can use a tripcode, but it takes time and effort to crack a specific one.

>>13496
It essentially IS impossible to crack one, if it's a secure trip. Secure trips differ from site to site because of a server-side stored value, and you'd have to first crack that value, THEN the trip.

You check the fridge. With Caster, Saber, and Rin here you've run low on food. Shopping sounds like a good idea. You can make an excellent breakfast to surprise your guests. It will do everyone some good.

It takes you ten minutes to walk to the familiar street where you buy groceries. While you're in the store you notice two unusual women dressed like maids. You pick out several various candies and treats. With so many women in the house it's a good idea to have some sweets.

As you exit the store you notice a girl in purple staring at you. You study her unusual western appearance as she approaches you.

"Hello onii-chan."

"Hello" you say, unsure what to say back to this young girl. Should she be wandering around by herself?

"You're wandering around without your servant onii-chan?"

Your mind freezes for a moment. Without your servant? She couldn't possibly mean Caster. There's no way this little girl could know about that.

"You're Caster's master, so where's Caster" she asks you after seeing the look on your face, confirming your worst fear.

"How do you know about that?"

"Because I'm Berserker's master onii-chan! Don't worry, he's sleeping right now so I won't kill you. I'm Ilyasviel von Einzbern, and you're Emiya Shirou right? You can call me Ilya" she smiles innocently.

You're stunned. This innocent looking little girl is a master. She giggles as she looks amused by your expression.

"I'm going to the park to play. Do you want to come with me onii-chan?"

You're stunned by these revelations. Who knows what else she knows or is capable of. You...

Decline and head home with the groceries.
Accept and spend a little time with her.

>>13500

I said I wouldn't post until Sunday, but I said screw it and wrote one to let you know I'm still writing.

>>13440
http://tatari.110mb.com/fuyuki/artifact.htm

[x] Accept and spend a little time with her.

Because Ilya.

>>13500
Go to the park. Since we've had an Ilya encounter, we might as well raise some points.

>>13500
☒ Accept and spend a little time with her.

>>13500
Go to the park, Ilya didn't kill us or try to take us home....yet. so it is a good idea to get more points with Ilya.

you never know how much you like the 4chan addon until you don't have it huh?

Hm. Ilya didn't try to kill us but... she could just as easily do her Care Bear Stare of Paralysis when she's tired of playing.

Let's get back home to the harem.

Accept and spend a little time with her.
Here's hoping we have a "Use Command Spell" option of the worst happens.

>>13513
This got me thinking... Can't we get Caster to break our contract and reform it over and over for infinitely replenishing command spells?

>>13514
If that was possible, Masters who used up their Command Seals could just reform contracts with the Servants they just had. There's probably some Nasuverse rule that says you can't do that.

[x] Go with Ilya

Whats the worst that could happen?

I mean, besides a horrible death.

Accept.

Incoming inevitable Caster/Saber save you from the castle.

[x] Accept and spend a little time with her.

Accept.

Bad case scenario is she takes you home, and Rin and co will have to come save you. Otherwise it's a friendly chat with your imouto (sorta).

What could spending a little time with Ilya hurt? Its broad daylight in a populated area, neither of you have your servants, and she looks innocent enough.

She smiles as you head to the park. When you arrive she sits on a swing and motions for you to push her. When you get behind her and gently help her get started on the swing, she smiles and looks happy. After several minutes she starts to talk.

"I'm glad you came onii-chan. I wanted to meet you before I had to kill you" she smiles as she says this with her child like innocence.

You're shocked by her words. How could this little girl be so callous?

"Why do you want to kill me?"

"Because onii-chan you're a master, and I'm after the Emiya family for Kiritsugu's betrayal. I'm going to kill him too."

Her words cause your blood to freeze. Betrayal? What betrayal? What could your adoptive father possibly have done to warrant such a thing, let alone you?

"But why do you want to kill masters? All you have to do is defeat the servant do you not? Why would you want to harm people you don't have to?"

"I guess that's true onii-chan, but that wouldn't be any fun! The Einzberns want to make sure there's no way we can lose this time, so eliminating everyone is the simplest way to insure that."

Its cruel. You suddenly realize that the Einzberns have groomed this little girl to be a remorseless killer. It makes you angry. How could they do such a thing?

"But why do you want to kill Kiritsugu?"

"Because onii-chan, he's my father. He betrayed my mother and cost the Einzbern's the Grail in the 4th War. He's a bad person."

Shock. This whole conversation has been one shock after another. Her words make your head spin as thoughts race through your brain. Voices startle you out of those thoughts. Its the two oddly dressed women you saw at the store. They're calling Ilya's name.

"Sorry onii-chan, Sella and Leysritt are looking for me. Berserker will wake up soon too. Will you come back and talk to me tomorrow?"

You...

Agree
Tell her you can't
Make no promise

>>13546
Make no promise.

Also that's a bit too casual with the revelations.