I hope Joff gets slapped every episode this season.

>>32480
And maybe next season, seeing as he won't die until at least then.

>>32481
They've stated that book 3 is too long to be in one season so they are going to end season 3 at the RW

>>32483
So what they really mean is Martin writes too damn slow and needs more buffer time to get the series finished before the TV show catches up?

>>32486
They're combining books 4 and 5 into one season so it kind of evens out.

>>32494
That too yes.

Even knowing how vicious they can be I still want my own direwolf.

Did they change Asha's name to Yara for this? If that's her I'm not too crazy with the casting choice.

Yes, they thought Asha and Osha had too similar names.

>>32496

u jelly?

>>32533

I thought that was on purpose. Mind you it DID confuse me a bit listening to the audiobooks, but it only makes sense to have people who inhabit the same world having similar if not exactly the same names.

>>32533
Doesn't Theon acknowledge that too? I think he did.

>>32534
'ts ZA PUUPPEEH

So are they going to have more Renly/Loras stuff in the show, or is this as good as it's going to get?

>>32596
Probably, seeing as he dies next episode. Damn homophobes, sure they'll cram in unnecessary lesbian sex for pure no titillation value but they won't even do more than imply a blowjob between two men who are actually gay in the books.

What the fuck was that?
Lord of Light my ass.

Joffrey is my new trigger word.

>>32685
Light births shadow.

>>32700
Yeah, but only if something obstructs the lig- oh.

>>32700
Well, technically, that's not true.
Shadow is just the absence of light. It is nonexistence.
Light merely births the concept of shadows.

>>32702
Darkness is the absence of light. A shadow is specifically a dark spot created by an established light source being obscured, but the light is still visible so the shadow can take form.

>>32705
To elaborate on the idea, yes.

Holy crap, I am loving the Arya sideplot. It's one of the better liberties to the book this season's been taking. But on the flipside I think the Talisa subplot is one of the weakest additions. The romance feels extremely forced and out-of-place, not to mention it's full of OOC bits like Robb helping treat a Lannister footman like that.

Oh God, that new episode was so great! Especially that scene with Arya and Sir Creepy McAlsoKindOfAttractive where she begs him to kill that dude.

>>32913
In the book Arya actually kills the Tickler and some other folks herself, but apparently the show writers thought showing Maisie Williams killing people on screen would make the viewers lose sympathy for her. Boo...

>>32917
But... that's kind of important. If she doesn't start killing people now, it's going to seem less plausible that she'd give up her identity to become an assassin...

>>32908
Worst thing about the Talisa subplot is that it makes Robb come off as even more idiotic compared to what happened with Jeyne, especially since everyone is a lot older. Now when the Red Wedding happens it's going to feel a lot more like he had it coming than it did in the novels.

>>32921
I don't see the big deal though. I mean, it's stupid, but they haven't dedicated a lot of time to it.

>>32930
Comments from the producers about giving Robb a bigger role and such means it's probably going to get a lot more prominence in teh future, although I think I heard Tywin mention the Red Wedding already being planned this episode. I'm more bothered by the lack of Riverrun and the Tully family, since without them it just seems like Robb is wandering around aimlessly from battle to battle.

>>33026
Those burnt corpses looked terrible, and you can't even recognize they're even supposed to be Bran and Rickon anyway.

So people are sure whatever the Wall is guarding isn't Icepeak's influence from Ralph Bakashi's Fire and Ice right? Because I'm still having trouble not getting them mixed up or thinking they are somehow connected.

So I started watching the series last night and now I'm on episode 8. THIS FUCKING SHOW. HOLY SHIT. SO GOOD.

Tyrian is the best fucking character ever. He almost makes up for the rest of his shithead family, but not really, because the rest of them are horrible assholes.

I feel bad for Ned; he's a genuinely good, noble guy, but it looks like he just waltzed into what'll be his death. I'm trying my best to guess which of the Starks will live and which will die. I'm guessing most are in the "gonna die" category. Hopefully Ayria lives, because she's easily the best of the Stark kids.

Drogo's pretty boss, too. He's fucking crazy, but that's part of what makes him awesome. Again, I feel bad that he's probably gonna die so Daenerys can come back and take what's probably rightfully hers. Because she really doesn't seem to appreciate the fact that Drogo's people seemed to have a really sweet thing going on, which she would then have going on.

>>33265
>Arya is the best Stark.
So true it hurts.

Have been thinking of getting into Game of Thrones.

Not much experience with High Fantasy, to be honest, but Sean Bean and Arya being badass have gotten my attention.

>>33283
It has the broadest appeal of any show on Television. I honestly don't know a single person that doesn't like it.

>>33283
It isn't really high fantasy. It's low fantasy.
It's gritty as all fuck.

Sorry, just semantics I had to argue.

>>33289
Seriously. The only really fantastic things I've seen so far are Ye Olde Zombies and Dragon bones. Otherwise there really isn't anything unbelievable about this show. Just politics, fucking, and the occasional sword fight.

>>33289
>>33290
You guys don't seem to understand that Winter is Coming.

>>33291
I have only watched one episode of the second season because I have come to the realization, after A Dance with Dragons, that the only ending to the series that would fit the series to date would be Winter Coming... and then never leaving because everyone else is fucking dead.

>>33292
>All the Starks are dead.
>Jon and Stannis die fighting off the Whitewalkers.
>All the Lannisters and Baratheons are murdered in a coup.
>Littlefinger becomes the king, after years of deceit and treachery.

>Dany comes out of nowhere, kills the characters that are still alive, takes the Iron throne, and rules over Westeros as an undefeatable tyrant.

>Salladhor Saan never gets pussy.

>GRRM Dies with a smile on his face, having pulled off a prank two decades in the making.

>>33265
just wait for Season 3 man, Jaime becomes a super bro after losing his hand
and the whole Robb/Talisa storyline is pants on head retarded, even worse than I expected

>>33349
I'm not gonna lie; his time as a prisoner and traveling with Lady Knight have made me warm to Jaime a little. He's still a dick, but he's at least a kinda charming dick.

>>33298
>GRRM dies before finishing the books
>Later reveals in his will that he had no ending planned at all and was just seeing how long he could bullshit everyone into believing there would be one

This is my worst fear.

>>33383
So you're suggesting GRRM is just Robert Jordan in disguise?

Dammit, why I'm so slow with this show?
I have both two seasons, and I haven't passed from episode 4.
Still, this show.
THIS FUCKING SHOW

Why hasn't anyone posted this here yet?

Game Of Thrones Season 3: Tease

>>33288
the first time i saw the Hand's pin i though "yep, someones going to get stabbed with that thing"

and then someone got strangled with the Hand's chain so it looks like its going to happen

Just finished watching first two seasons.

Tyrion is a fucking god, Arya's cool, and Dary's whole plotline seems almost entirely unrelated, Jon's story is boring, and FUCK JOFFERY.

Don't know anything about the books, and I don't want to.

>>36647
Jon's story was set up.

Also tried recalling any music from the series but the only song filling my brain is this.

West of the wall - Toni Fisher

>>36647
>Dary's whole plotline seems almost entirely unrelated

It isn't. Dany is an extremely long term plan of Varys's, which you learned in the first season while Arya was hanging out in the catacombs.

>>36652
He and that one guy from... Not-Italy I guess were on board with the brother's plan. I know that Dany's current plotline is obviously going to become relevant at some point but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anytime soon.

Anyway TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/8325565/Game_of_Thrones_S03E01_HDTV_x264-2HD%5Bettv%5D

The sucess of game of thrones fills me with hope.

...one day....one day it'll happen.

ladies and gentlemen, the battle of the fist of the first men

>>36713
DAMN YOU BUDGET!

>>36711
I'm hoping for the adaptions of Preacher, Hero, and Middlesex that HBO promised us, too.

Grandma Tyrell is awesome.

The second episode was definitely better than the premiere.

So I have heard tell that the TV show entirely eliminated Strong Belwas as a character.

This makes me feel better about having dropped the show in season 2.

>>36778
Lady Ollena is AWESOME.
Which makes later events all the better.

Dear HBO,

Please cancel Game of Thrones and replace it with the Tyrion, Bran, and Pod Comedy Variety Hour.

-Signed Rodyle

>>36825
Or, as someone else dubbed it,
>Two and a Half Man

All right, since one of my friends is getting annoyed by the fact that I'm slow at watching this kind of series, he made a dare with me: if I finish the second season before this friday he'll get me a 1/4 pound burger from a home-made food restaurant we know.
Right now I'm at episode five and I think I'll gonna made it.
Also, THIS FUCKING SHOW.

>>36825
>Bran

You mean Bronn right?

>>36882
Oh yes, my mistake.

>s3e4
>that entire last sequence

Saw it coming a mile away, but god it was still great. Less predictably, can't say I imagined a total mutiny amongst the crows.

Joffrey as Lemongrab

I'm really liking Lady Olenna Tyrell. Old people saying things how they are is one of my favorite things on earth.

But >>36899 this too. It was obviously going to happen that way, but what a BAMF nonetheless.

>>36902
>I'm really liking Lady Olenna Tyrell. Old people saying things how they are is one of my favorite things on earth.
Yeah she's pretty much come out of nowhere and is rapidly becoming a Tyrion and Arya tier character

>>36902
>>36903
Lady Olenna goes hard as diamond.

>Tyrone unites Circe and Tyrion against him
>while also trying to screw over the Tyrells, and thus an old lady who can run circles around fucking Tyrion
boooooooooooned

>>36954
>tyrone

>>36955
That'll teach me to post while sleep deprived!

Seriously though, Tywin's fucked.

>>36956
>Shit Tywin! Get it together!

>>36956
>Seriously though, Tywin's fucked.

You really think so? Because Tywin sort of strikes me as probably the most dangerous man in Westeros and someone who is not easily fucked with. No matter the opponent.

>>36958
I hope it's a little different from the books though. But not the part where he kills his old man but the part where he's on the run for it.

You know, I know not everyone's into it, but I'm actually enjoying the deviations from the books, if only because it provides something different, but just as good, to observe.

I also especially like that Little Finger is much more open about being a power hungry scumbag.

Game Of Thrones Season 3: Episode #7 Preview

>littlefinger

this fucking show

I don't mind the departures from the books, it's an entirely different method of storytelling. Can't give less shits about this Talisa thing and the Robb and Cat story is kind of dragging. but fuckin peter dinklage, man. arya, jon snow, theon. Joffrey is so perfectly cast I feel bad for the actor because his entire face just screams pure blond shoot-me-now evil. Every Sunday night I'm dying.

i fucking live for this show

>>36958
and then tyrion shoots him with a crossbow while he's on the shitter after everyone thinks he killed joffrey, gets jailed, then released by jaime, it's p great

well we got at least a "heh" out of Tormund so we're on the right track

but Melly

Melly what the fuck are you doing

>>37080
How the writers are dealing with the Dragonstone plot is my biggest concern.

Particularly whether or not the do the characters justice.

>>37082
I feel a lot of Dany's story is being rushed over ):

>>37083
Given how long the whole Slaver's Bay story is in the books: Good.

>>37084
Daenrerys' parts of the books were the ones I most wanted to skim through, and I'll probably do that when the next book comes out twenty years from now.

OH MY GOD THE WARG GUY WITH THE WILDLINGS IS SO FUCKING JELLY I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING

Okay I'm buying the damn books just so I can browse the internet without being terrified once again.

GODDAMN IT SAM GO BACK AND GET THAT KNIFE

>>37143
Orell was fucking awesome in the books.

Not really a spoiler for show watchers, but He was one of the dudes the Night's Watch killed when they caught Ygritte. He warged into his bird and spent the next two books attacking Jon Snow at random.

The scene where Ygritte was all "You know nothing- JON SNOW!!!!!" and the bird attacks Jon out of nowhere had me like

Funniest Reaction to Scarlet …

Well that's one wedding down.

Let's see how many more they can fit in before the season ends.

So since all book readers seem to have their butts clenched firmly in fear of the next episode, allow me to make my prediction:

Winter is Coming

>>37409
You mistake fear for anticipation, good sir.

Shit is about to go down.

Well.

That was a thing.

>>37433
It most certainly was.

;_;

>>37438

>>37438

Good Times.

>>37438

>>37442
This road goes both ways Littlefinger.

Also

>This episode

I am so fucking disappointed and angry at the TV show and the severe downturn it has gradually taken. The writers have made zero effort in even trying to humanize the characters. They have missed development after development, either no no obvious reason or to stuff in a few more scenes of titillation. I cried like a bitch during the RW in the books, I felt next to nothing during the show other than "nnnnnnnnnah". Genuinely considering dropping.

>>37449
I liked the Talisa thing, because by the time the abortion potion was brought up in the books, I didn't even care about Jeyne as a character. I'll admit though, it was done better in the books because the books had way less forshadowing an a ton of secondary characters that died along with Cat/Robb.

I'd like to also bring up that the Red Wedding isn't over yet, and there are more scenes coming next week. Also, the show writers will probably try to cheer people up by eliminating the Purple Wedding and condensing it to fit into next week's episode.

>>37450
I just feel like one thing GRRM was really good at in the book was revealing a whole new dimension of a character/relationship/situation with a single line or action eg "I dreamed of you", "Once the sun sets not candle can replace it" and most importantly for me tonight was "Not my hair, Ned loves my hair". It takes so little to slip in a little line like that (or replace it with a similar one) but they seem to miss it every time, or try to go for some other grand gesture that feels hammy and awkward.

https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears
My fucking sides

>>37455
Game of Thrones: Red Wedding R…

https://vine.co/v/b3XZMHmxzxh

>>37451
>"Not my hair, Ned loves my hair"
I'm not this far in the books yet, but this line sounds stupid and out of place.

http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444
MY SIDES

>>37461
Ah, sorry. I should have spoilered that. It sounds lame out of context but I found it to be particularly moving at the time. When Robb is murdered, she completely loses her mind. She is gone, totally and utterly destroyed, and when one of the men grab her by the hair, for a second she thinks they are going to cut her hair with the dagger they're holding. They don't.

>>37465
>thinks
That's exactly it. She thinks it. Internal monologue, especially in a situation like the Red Wedding, rarely sounds good spoken. Frankly, I thought it would have been maudlin and inappropriate for her to say that.

>>37468
The lack of inner monologues really hurts some of the characters, though. Especially Jon Snow.

>>37471
Don't forget Sansa.

>>37473
Nobody likes Sansa.

>>37475
Bullshit. She's a great character, and she's a SURVIVOR. She's an extraordinary 13yo girl who has managed to keep herself alive in an environment where most people wouldn't have lasted two days.

>>37475
She gets better later on.

>>37475
I like Sansa. She's roughly 75828934752389475 times a better character than Robb Stark. I really really hope things finally go well for her, she's such a whipped little dog.

>>37476
She's also a major reason why all this started in the first place, because even after THEY KILLED HER GODDAMN WOLF FOR SOMETHING ARYA'S DID, she still couldn't see that Cersei and Joffery were walking, talking shitpiles. Remember that she was the one who ran to Cersei and blabbed about Ned's plot to remove her and Arya.

Having said that, she doesn't deserve as much shit as has happened to her, but Arya's the one who got the worst of it, not Sansa.

>Dario brings the spoils from the sacking of Yunkai (another great battle, on par with the spectacle that was the battle at the Fist of Ther First Men BTW) before Dany
>this includes soldiers and other slaves of note
>among them are some skilled warriors freed from the fighting pits
>one of them is Strong Belwas
>the seige of Mereen can go down like its meant to

MAKE IT SO, SHOW

Finished Book 1. Was kind of slow since it was mostly just shit I've seen before so I didn't exactly plow through it.

Season 1 was better, but that's pretty much what I expected given that Book 1 was released in fucking 1996 and I imagine that, as any good writer would, by the time 2011 rolled around, GRRM had shit he wanted to add or change (since my understanding is that the show creators run changes and additions by him). It's a very rough product in spots.

On the issue of titillation where HBO is concerned... I would say that the book is better in some ways and a lot worse in others. True, there were no overly long scenes spent in whorehouses in the book, but the Dany stuff was skeevy as shit, I was way more bothered by that than I was in the show.

>>37486
Dude, I fucking love Strong Belwas but he would break the show thematically, when you have a show where a super strong warlord like Khal Drogo dies from an infection due to a single sword wound having a guy whose entire shtick is letting people get a slash in on him is a somewhat bad idea because it is at odds with the tone of the show which is decidedly more serious than the books, thus we have Dario looking much much more toned down.

>>37489
But without Strong Belwas, who will save Danaerys from that one plot to kill her?

His personality is kind of key to that story turning out the way it does....

>>37488
Also the fact that Season 1 seemed a lot more loyal to the books in general. Season 2 was a lot more liberal, some of it to condense the story or occasionally fleshed out a character (Bron, Theon) but most of which seemed like they were just changing shit for the sake of it and missed the whole point of the characters or scenes (Talisa, Arya not going all Eren Jaeger on the Tickler, a lot of the Dany stuff). And a lot of it sets up things in such a problematic way that for Season 3 no matter how clever the changes to the book are this time around they still have to follow through on the idiotic stuff from the last season.

>>37484
Remember that part where she was engaged to Joffrey? And that part where she grew up in a disgustingly patriarchal culture where your husband is basically God and going against him is, well, looked down upon, to be polite? Yeah. But yeah, I can't believe that a TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL (idk if she was 11 or 13 or whatever, but it's DAMN YOUNG) wasn't savvy enough to figure out that these people didn't have her best interests in mind. [/sarcasm]

Also, let us remember that THE LANNISTERS killed Ned Stark. Sansa didn't.

>>37491
I was saying that Season 1 was better than Book 1. I have no opinion on the other seasons as adaptations as I've not started book 2. As works of their own, it's hard to say, I can't say I've ever seen an episode of Game of Thrones I didn't like. Season 2 might be my favorite insofar as it is the most Tyrion heavy I guess.

>changing shit for the sake of it and missed the whole point of the characters or scenes

Yup, this. The one that really irked me was Loras. He's supposed to be a short-tempered young knight but a capable and gallant one none the less, who was so deeply hurt by Renly's death (his childhood friend and lover) he commits himself eagerly to the Kingsguard so that he wouldn't have to be forced to marry. Shit, there's even a long conversation explicitly explaining his motivation eg "When the sun has set, no candle can replace it". On the TV, he's sad for about half and episode then eagerly jumps on the next dick who smiles at him without hesitation. I understand the show, being such a popular primetime 'Murkan series probably doesn't want too much homo but it's just sort of an indicator when a chivalrous haughty gallant knight is turned into a charmless floozy for the sake of two seconds of screen-ass and fulfilling the titillation quota. It's boring.

>>37495
>On the TV, he's sad for about half and episode then eagerly jumps on the next dick who smiles at him without hesitation.
When did this happen? I don't remember him talking to anyone else but Sansa, who he's not interested in for obvious reasons.

>>37496
He bums a random servant who is spying for Littlefinger in S3E5.

>>37495
To be fair, he can be a chivalrous haughty gallant knight torn apart by the loss of his only love and still want to get laid.

First Guy To Ever Read The Red…

>>37480
Sansa's the second best Stark, behind Rickon.

Also, S03E10 spoilers. 'MUH FEELS LOLOLOL'

>>37521
>Sansa's the second best Stark, behind Rickon.

I DISAGREE! Sansa takes the Lawful Stupid of her family, ditches the Lawful, and rides the Stupid like a goddamned rollercoaster.
At least when Ned, his brother, Robb, and Jon act like complete morons, they do it for some kind of moral reason. Sansa is basically a less mean, less experienced Cersei, and her motives for all her dumb actions were pretty shallow.

>>37523
OH MAN I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT A SHELTERED TWELVE YEAR OLD ISN'T POLITICALLY SAVVY

>>37525
You don't have to be politically savvy to realize the little blond shit you saw torture your sister's playmate, swing his sword at your sister, and then teamed up with his mom to have your pet murdered, is in fact a little blond shit. And on top of not seeing Joffery, she couldn't see said mother.

>>37523
>his brother
Benjen? What did he do aside of disappear?

>>37527
incidentally if the answer is "book spoilers" then don't tell me

>>37527
Not Benjen (who did stupidly sign on to the Night's Watch), but his dead older brother Brandon, who set off Robert's Rebellion by storming King's Landing looking for Liarra after Rhaegar ran off with her.

>>37526
He apologized for it. That's the horrible part. When you're that young and stupid, and you've been raised on the equivalent of Disney movies, and you've never been away from home, and you THINK you're in love with a ~*golden prince*~ who you wouldn't have any choice of being with anyway, you'll believe anything he says. Why wouldn't she have wanted to stay in King's Landing against her father's wishes, especially since she still believed Joffrey was a ~*golden prince*~ who "promise[d] never to treat her badly again"? Besides, if it was as simple as "seeing," then abusive relationships wouldn't happen. Obviously the people in said relationships are making bad decisions by trusting and being with awful, toxic people, but...what exactly do you expect her to do? Stab Cersei? Run away? Even if she hadn't said anything, do you really think Ned would have gotten away with sending his daughters home?

>>37533
>do you really think Ned would have gotten away with sending his daughters home?
Cersei admits as much in Clash of Kings, that if Sansa hadn't come to her, Ned would have gotten away with it.

>>37534
Sansa making a mistake doesn't change the fact that it was Cersei who chose to start shit and it was Joffrey who ordered the execution.

>>37535
I'm not denying that.

I'm saying Sansa is annoying and dumb.

>>37536
She's pitiable, and a survivor above all else: a victim of truly shocking abuse that even appealing and smart people could fall prey to, and much more interesting than you make her out to be. If anyone's annoying and dumb in her family, it's Ned. He doesn't have the excuse of being a child. He should have been too old and experienced to expect other people to play by his rules.

Let's declare this argument dead, shall we? It's taking up valuable thread space. You've said yours. I've said mine. We disagree.

Well.

Guess I'd better hurry the fuck up and finish Clash of Kings then.

>>37556
Let me guess, the finale wasn't as "shocking" as the penultimate episode.

>>37536
i think that given she's still a child, she's incredibly clever and strong in her own ways. she's coy and knows how to survive while in her position and is still learning how to become even more of a political player.

she can be annoying, but i don't think she's dumb.

>>37521
Can't say I'm all that upset about it considering just how shitty and character-assassinating the Robb/Talisa storyline was. I wouldn't mind B&W changing things if they didn't just do it for no real reason only to have it end up being terrible or form a plot hole treadmill like Loras being the only Tyrell son. Making Selys an abusive psycho was another absolutely facepalm-worthy idea.

>S1 final scene: cant even remember
>S2 final scene: an army of undead marching on the wall
>S3 final scene: white feminist jesus

>>37571
>Making Selys an abusive psycho was another absolutely facepalm-worthy idea.
what

>>37584
>S1 final scene: cant even remember
Dragons, man. It was dragons.

>>37591
how did i forget that

>>37605
Because it was pretty similar to season 3 if you take away the fact that there were no dragons before.

is it wrong that i got completely hyped just by this guys presence in the crowd?

it was just a reminder that Wyman the Pieman is coming, bitches

>>37613
They had Bran telling the story of the Rat Cook after all. So I'm thinking it's on.

SHAE YOU DUMB BITCH I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TURNED SPIDER DOWN YOU ARE SO DEAD

>>37669

Tiki, calm yourself.

It's not worth being upset over.

Also, I was somewhat disappointing that we didn't get to see Joffery fucking choke. That kid that plays Joff is great; he's really fucking hateable.

Danny is still pretty insufferable, and that scene where everyone calls her mother didn't seem as awful in the book, but man was it terrible.

I really wish GRRM would stop teasing us and let Danny die.

But that's not going to happen.

>>37689
I'm just upset how much they cut out of Stannis' dialogue/storyline. I mean, the guy's one of the most important characters in the book, and Stephen Dillane is a good actor, but the way they write him...

They better not screw up his character next season. Especially THAT moment in the story.

>>37689
>I really wish GRRM would stop teasing us and let Danny die.

But she's the Prince who was Promised, Aegon said so! If she dies, who will MacGuffin the Others back into their frozen wastelands? Hodor? Do you really think Hodor is going to save the world?

>>37709

He IS the hero they deserve.

>>37709

Well, Jon Snow is Azor Ahai.

Otherwise, I'm down for Hodor saving everyone.

OH MY GOD YES I'LL TAKE HODOR END

hodor no more hodoring

>>37709
I don't want her to die yet because there's a remote chance of her being interesting again, but I really hope she's a red herring for the Iron Throne. She's lived long past her Stupidity Due Date™ while far better characters have died for much more minor mistakes. Even Sansa would probably make a better Queen than she does especially now that she's learned how to be not retarded. It's not like Dany knows jack shit about the people of Westeros and how to rule them properly anyway.

All she's good for IMO is spearheading the fight against the White Walkers with her dragons. Maybe she can use her experience to start a new Valyria of her own (and maybe fuck a few Blackfyres into helping her), but she doesn't deserve any stake in Westeros. Even Jon is too good to waste his seed on her at this point.

Westeros as a nation probably won't exist at the end of the series. Dany is too incompetent to rule over it, and without the deterrent power of dragons, nothing can keep the kingdoms in line.

>Who is the Azor Ahai?

THE DRAGON HAS THREE HEADS MOTHERFUCKER.

>DANY
>JON
>JAIME LANNISTER

>>37732
I'm hoping the fan theories that Tyrion is really Aerys's son turn out to be bullshit. It would defeat the whole point of the parallels between him and his father, as well as his interactions with the rest of his family.

>>37737
How can there be fan theories when this is based off an already existing and easily accessible book series?

>>37742
There are still at least two more books coming, though he'll probably die before finishing the last one.

I think Dany would be a decent queen with some age and experience behind her. She's on the right track but at the end of the day she's simply a stubborn idealistic teen playing with a bit more than she can really handle. I think she's done okay so far, considering how badly things could have/can go wrong.

>>37695
TV Stannis has this vague air of uselessness about him that book Stannis definitely didn't have. I can't quite put my finger on it.

>>37732
>choosing a Lannister when there's already three legit dragonborn

I'm wading through Storm of Swords, but here's my Clash of Kings thoughts reposted from elsewhere.

>Still think the show is a massive improvement in some ways (Cersei being far more interesting is the big one for me), but the book has some actual ground to stand on now, and it's becoming more obvious how much material in the show is pulled from later books/made the fuck up. Like, Robb basically does not appear in the book at all after he and Cat talk about Theon and Renly, and Jaime only gets one scene. I knew Talisa was almost totally made up, but holy shit.

>The Shae/Tyrion stuff is outright better in the show than in the book, mostly because while Shae is hardly great in the show, she is utterly unbearable in the book. Also Bronn is more amusing in the show when he and Tyrion are doing the fantasy buddy cop thing whereas in the book Tyrion's constantly suspicious of him.

>Who the fuck is Strong Belwas and why is Barristan pretending to not be Barristan even though it's totally obvious that's who it is? The Qarth stuff was pretty different in general, aside from the Funhouse which still didn't have that big Drogo sequence from the show. I guess you can't make an entire season of a TV show which basically amounts to "this major character sat around feeding her people for awhile, met some weird magicians, then left." ~holding pattern~ as fuck.

>The Arya stuff is where things get murky, because there's things I like better about that in both versions. I like that in the show she doesn't just blow TWO deaths like she does in the book, the second one in the show is an act of dire need (also that Jaquen eyeroll is great). I also think the choice to make her Tywin's cupholder in the show was smart, but that could just be because I think any decision that gives Dance more screentime is a good one. On the other hand the book has her totally fucking end that dude to orchestrate their getaway which was pretty cool too. Mixed bag.

>I have no idea what people are talking about with Jon, that character is exactly the same in both versions. If he seems whinier in the show then either S3 is the point of divergence on that or you just don't realize how whiny he can be until there's a face and sound to go with some of these lines. Either way he does his job and offs Halfhand.

>>37750
>Aegon
>legit and not a Blackfyre or Dayne
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>>37751
Cersei oly became interesting in the books once she got her point of view-chapters.

>>37752

He may (probably) be a Blackfyre, but the Blackfyres are still of the Dragon.

The Black Dragon..

>>37768
But Drogon is Dany's dragon.

I've completely pass the show content in Storm of Swords.

Wow, things really are just going horribly for absolutely everyone except Team Dany and Littlefinger.

It's awesome.

>>37751
>Who the fuck is Strong Belwas
A fucking badass dude sent to give Danaeris some competent bodyguards.

>why is Barristan pretending to not be Barristan even though it's totally obvious that's who it is?
Because her dad Aerys was completely fucking nuts and he wanted to make sure he wasn't throwing in his lot with someone as bad or worse than Joffrey.

Storm of Sword's Ending impressions:
>Tyrion
Ahahahahaha
>Arya
Man, I'm sure this is going to be cool and all, but to seems to me that where she's bound, it's all the more certain nobody will ever know of her. Also she just left the Hound there under a tree, so I have to wonder what his role will be, if anything.
>Jon
Stannis breaks Mance's host and steals the Wall, Sam steals the Lord Commander's seat for Jon, and Melisandre wants to burn all the heart trees. This shit's going to get pretty crazy. I can't say I have any real idea where this will go next, save for the fact I already vaguely know what happens to him at the end of Dance of Dragons.
>Sansa
LITTLEFINGER IS AN AMAZING MAN though I'm not sure if this is really much of an upgrade from Joffery in terms of her welfare
>Dany
This part of the story is actually starting to bore me.
>Epilogue
FFFFFFFFFF

>>37788
>This part of the story is actually starting to bore me.

Well, you've got two more books of it. Dany's storyline becomes more an impetus for other people to do shit than something interesting in it's own right once she starts on the whole Ghiscari storyline.

Okay, that's Feast For Crows:

Arya: I guess the kindly man punished her for acting on her own? Fuck, I can't believe that's the note GRRM left us on.
Sam: LOOK OUT FAT BOY, JAQEN'S GONNA GET YOU... maybe. We don't know who could possibly be employing Jaqen to disguise himself as a Maester, assuming anyone's doing that at all. Really we don't even know how Jaqen ended up in the black cells in the first place.
Brienne: FUCK YOU CAT YOU ARE EVEN WORSE THAN BEFORE, though I can't imagine she and Pod are actually dead because then this entire plot was meaningless.
Circe: hahahaha
Jaime: So at this point I'm juggling between him and the still very specifically alive Loras for being the Valenquar, leaning on the latter. Sure he's maimed, but he's actually in the city, and Jaime has no plans on showing up. I guess it could also refer to Kevan since he benefits from all this but he doesn't seem the type and the High Septon's just running on his own.
Sansa: lalala adventures in Littlefingerland, nothing really interesting
Iron Islands: oh boy the Ironborn AND the Ghiscari, this won't cause an idiocy chain reaction or anything
Dorne: FOR THE PRINCE WHO WAS SLAIN, FOR THE QUEEN WHO SHALL REIGN! UNBOWED, UNBENT, UNBROKEN!

>>37846
>1 book and 3 novellas away from the eternal Christmas-eve.

https://twitter.com/IceAndFireBabie

Aaaaaaaaand that's Dance with Dragons.


-Stannis isn't dead, deaths offscreen aren't deaths to be trusted.
-On a related note, Robert Strong is probably Mountainstein, which makes Qyburn a straight up necromancer. I would also accept his being Robertstein but this is unlikely.
-We can probably say goodbye to Jon the man, but we can say hell to Ghost John, who is a lot like the Punisher except he's a giant wolf.
-Arya will probably continue to not affect the plot no matter how badly we want her to.
-Martin says we'll see some Lands of Always Winter. BENJEN STARK POV CHAPTERS, YOU WILL ALL SEE.
-Wyman is going to continue piling some bodies up if he's not a body himself.
-Roose is probably dead if Ramsay is sending letters in his name, which means it's time for Ramsay to completely unravel all of Roose's carefully laid plans.
-Aegon, John, and Dorne are going to rampage around the Stormlands.
-I don't even fucking know what's going to happen with the King's Landing council. Without Pycelle and Kevan, and with Cersei probably going to pass her trial, the Tyrells and the Lannisters (what's left of them) are going to rip the city apart.
-Meanwhile, Euron and company will rampage around the Reach.
-I still can't imagine what Jaqen is doing in Oldtown, but it's probably bad news for Sam and co.
-Similarly, I don't know what the fuck to say about Varys and his children of the corn.
-Slaver's Bay is going to turn into a total shitstorm, and the only one who's going to REALLY enjoy it is Tyrion.
-Dany and Drogo are going to burn down the Dothraki Sea.
-Davos, Rickon, Shaggydog, and Osha in: Stranded in Skagos
-John switched the horns for Melisandre to burn, but both horns were fake according to Tormund, and I can't think of a reason for him to lie about that. So I'm going to say the Walkers have it and the Wall is coming down.
-Bran will continue to not be interesting.

>>37911
I think Gurm said there would be no new POVs after Feast.

>>37911
Of course Robert Strong is Pycelstein's Mountain Monster. Also, Euron Greyjoy has the horn. He even shows it off.

>>37923
Different horn. You're thinking of dragonhorn from Valyria, which is actually in Victarion's possession now. I'm talking about the Horn of Joramund, which is supposed to break the Wall.

>>37911
> straight up necromancer

Not the first one you've by that point in the series, though.

And on your commment about Ramsey- That bit always felt a bit bullshitty to me, but we need to wait for the next book to see how much so.

>>37924
I thought the horn of Joramund was the one found in the stash of dragon glass and Sam still has it with him.

>>37911
>Jon
Alternatively he was just knocked unconscious and badly wounded but not dead, or someone stopped the last guy. It's possible he's going to come back in a different form for the next book but I honestly think he's still alive as he is.

>>37942
Didn't Marsh slit his throat though?

>>37959
IRC, he just stabbed him.

>>37942
shit if only there was a priestess who wants his dick and serves a god that resurects people from worse wounds somewhere in castle black

also the fact that Jaime is the youngest of the twins and is getting tired of cerseis shit puts a whole new spin on the valonquar thing. but it did say "hands" around her neck after all

>>38060
Jaime is certainly a contender, but I think it's going to be Loras. The prophecy doesn't specifically say "her" younger brother if I remember right, and I can't think of another reason to leave Loras so very specifically alive rather than just killing him at Dragonstone.

So I just powered through season 3 today.

I want all the Frey's to burn.
Tywin is a really really nice guy. Loras' grandmother is awesome.
Ramsey looks like he's five seconds away from raping Tyrone at all times. Being Arya is suffering. I can't wait for the next season.

>>38229
>Tyrone

No no, Tyrone is the bald guy (see: >>36954).

>>38061
do we hear whats happened to him from anyone other than cersei? she could be exagerating or making shit up