Well. Hell now hath the fury of a woman scorned.

>>215397
Wow. That's it then. Sabine is officially the only member of the Linear Guild left.

>>215398
huh, I didn't even realize that.
Althogh, Nales soul would be in hell, right? So sabine can still meet him. I wonder if we'll se som crackpot plan to bring him back as a demon.

>>215399
D&D afterlife cosmology's a little weird. I think that there are multiple hells he can go to, and that whether he's chaotic evil, neutral evil, or lawful evil have an effect on that. But that's also world specific, so it's possible all souls go to the astral plane after death in the OotS-verse.

>>215400
I think Roy went to the specifically "lawfull good" heaven, so it's probably the same for hell(s). I think both Nale and Sabine are chaotic though.

>>215398
Thog may or may not be alive still, but whether or not he could be directed toward any meaningful participation in events without Nale's influence is another matter

Damn I haven't read this in years... did they transition to 4th edition or something?

>>215400
Souls go through the Astral to the Outer Planes (Heavens, Hells, whatever).

>>215409
No, but I think the author basically said "I'll make whatever jokes I feel like making, but officially it's going to stay 3.5" fairly early after 4 came out.

>>215401
> I think both Nale and Sabine are chaotic though.

Sabine is chaotic evil (because she's a demon, not a devil), but Nale is Lawful Evil (the same as his father and the opposite of his Chaotic Good brother).

The girls on Bad Machinery fucked up time somehow.

>>215397
And I bet she's not going to be getting to Tarquin. Least I hope not, he's kind of the raddest man on the continent.

More recently I've been pretty floored by the surprisingly humanizing Belkar moments, like "hurting people's all I'm good for" or what his personal version of paradise actually is.

>>215415
Yes that was the original joke, their parents broke up over irreconcilable differences in alignment. Which in retrospect is kind of weird because Tarquin doesn't seem like the type for clean breaks but hey, early strip humor.

>>215423
Maybe as a young man he was too fond of her simple goodnatureness to have her suffer an 'accident'.
Plus she's the mother of his children, you don't hear about Nale and Elan having half brothers or sisters.

So, Ava's Demon is gonna be on a 4 month hiatus due the making of the book.
Welp, time to wait.

>>215417
Time travel shenanigans, anything will be fucked up sooner or later.
Even in an involuntary way.

Oh no... Oh no no no no no no not Mr. and Mrs. Beckwith. Not them. Please time travel shenanigans, take anyone but them.

I fixed it.

http://www.themarysue.com/40-webcomics-you-need-to-read/
Not a bad recommendation list (most of them seem to be good), but I question about some of their "categories".

>>215533
Well, at least Willis will never care about your edit.
Can't say the same about tumblr though.

>>215559
>No Rice Boy
>No Sin Titulo
>No The Gun Show
>No Unsounded
>No Paranatural
>No Whomp!
THE LIST OF AMAZING & UNMENTIONED WEBCOMICS GOES ON

AND YET
>Homestuck
>xkcd
>Shortpacked
What is this garbage

>>215533
I liked Toonfire too but I'm not going to act like an entitled shit about how the comic version is. I wonder if kids would look at those Animal Man shorts then tty to check out his series.

>>215584
I'm fine with Homestruck on there but dear god Shortpacked and XKCD over Gun Show? Fuck that with a rake.

>>215584
>>215586
>THIS LIST BASED ON YOUR OPINIONS IS WRONG!
Go make your own list of your favorite webcomcs so other people can complain about how wrong you are in liking what you like.

>>215587
Tempting, but not entirely relevant to the complaint. Short-packed and Homestuck aside, XKCD does not need the exposure, and that means that there is one less space for one that does.
Of course, XKCD is also an "objectively" terrible comic, but we'll not concern ourselves with the details.

I always though XKCD had a kind of "overblown" hate; almost like Homestuck, where there's something that people don't just dislike but really gets under their skin.(Maybe it's the fanbase for both?)

>>215589
Adding to that: Or maybe it's for the same reason Dresden Codak kinda rubs me the wrong way. Least I Could Do is the only webcomic I can say to HATE hate. That and maybe one of those Objectivist furry strips but I feel embarrassed even bringing those up.

>>215559
I have to admit, "sitcomics" is a great one.

>>215588
I meant that the recommendation for Homestuck was bad in the way that >>215586 said XKCD was a bad recommendation, in that neither need any real exposure. Homestuck is VERY popular. It's spot would be better suited for less popular but still amazing comics.

Comics like Gun Show.

>>215584
Not to get too judgmental of them, but this IS the Mary Sue. They may have had gender politics as a major selection criteria, so if you aren't highly preachy about how video games are equivalent to rape or how referring to a genderqueer person by the wrong pronoun is a hate crime, you aren't as good a webcomic.

>>215592
Or it's just not as relevant to the website's expected readership. Not everything has to be a goddamned conspiracy to redefine "good" according to political axes, people.

Why is everything Tarquin says so fantastic?

any list that lists questionable content as a "must read" is a bad list

here are some "not as well known (debatable) webcomics i like and you should read"
http://helvetica.jnwiedle.com/
http://sakana.smackjeeves.com/
http://www.glamrockgorilla.com/
http://drunkardsofthecosmos.com/
http://judecca.co.uk/
http://broodhollow.chainsawsuit.com/
http://attendance.comicgenesis.com
http://www.monstersgarden.com/

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaaaaaaaack.

Hopefully the suffering levels won't top last chapter.
>Cope: "In which everyone is a goddamn liar"
Or maybe they'll be higher than ever!

>>215589
I just think it comes off as a bit smug. Otherwise I couldn't care.

>>215590
I'm horrified that there is apparently more than one Objectivist furry comic.

>>215591
Ah sorry.

>>215592
Some webcomics just seem to reduce themselves to ham fisted soap boxing. Don't know why that is. Christ Shortpacked is totally different from when I first saw it. The main character coming out as gay was done in the most retarded way.

Is the Punchline is Machismo comic welcome here? Because I love that one.

Oh, wow.
FUCK YOU WILLIS

>>215620
That he could so miss the point that he would got so far as making a comic is pretty impressive.

>>215620
See I was just talking about ham fisted soap boxing and here we have a good example. I just can't help but hear this in some whiny sarcastic voice.

I'm actually disgusted to see Gutters trades at my local comic shop. At least they sit they just sit there and gather dust. Same place carries American Elf too which is just nasty.

>>215620
I feel like that "world's greatest monster" panel is taken from a Calvin and Hobbes comic. The one where he's playing with the Tinkertoys, I think?

>>215624
Yeah, it's definitely supposed to invoke that.

>>215624
Yeah, it's definitely supposed to invoke that. The whole thing is a send-up of a comic that's been making the rounds recently that used a quote from Watterson and mimicked Watterson's style that a lot of people found sweet and on-point, but that a fairly large or at least noisy group of people has been using to justify their belief that being a starving artist is more noble than being an artist who makes a living.

>>215622

I think you need to find a new local comic book shop.

Maybe go next town over if necessary.

>>215626
I can't hold wanting to work support someone but this reminds me of that smug LeBron James commercial.

>>215627
That aside I the shop is fantastic. Massive selection of everything and they keep it well stocked. The place is huge. Its bigger than my house actually. Plus one of the owners created the comic Man Gull (the story of a bird so murderous he ripped the arms off a man so he could wear them over his feet and murder more efficiently). Nice fellows.

There's too other nice ones near me too. Ones run by an old couple (the woman knows her comics, the man is fantastic with Warhammer). They're on the look out for niche stuff with a ton of weird ass indie stuff from the 80s going back. The other just has the friendliest guy. He recommended me Waid's DD. He will also be honest with you if a title is worth your money. He showed me what they did to Phantom Stranger. He doesn't have the massive or niche selection of the other two but he ships comics to soldiers overseas at a huge cost to him and makes sure the store is kid friendly somewhat so I don't mind shooting him some money.

Oh, Poppy. :c

>>215619
Squid used to be our best friend. , _,

>>215619
Squid used to be our best friend. , _,

>>215636

Cripes and she's doing her best not to rage. I gotta commend that specially given situation.

Ha

>>215640
ooh and DC gets an out to whack the copy sometime down the road.

>>215620

I think I'm missing some context for this one. Which thing is he talking about that he missed the point about? Is it about Watterson talking about why he never let C&H get syndicated or rejected most merchandising?

>>215642
See >>215626

>>215642

Basically Waterson was saying to follow your hearts desire and not be caught up in the hype of excess. He personally rejected the pressures of his industry and that's fine. He wasn't damning those who seek for more, but encouraging them to focus on what they love about creating in the first place. Make that the priority.

Or at least that's what I got from him.

The "some jerk in his thirties" line confuses me; did he not know the source of the quote because iirc Bill Watterson went to live in the woods to paint.

>>215647
I think "some jerk in his thirties" is referring to the cartoonist who made the comic here >>215644 using Watterson's quote.

I may be wrong, I don't know his age, but that makes more sense to me.

>>215644

With context it seems like another point of Willis misses the point-- yet again!

Like what happened with Gerry Conway.

Or Civil War.

Really anything related to comics, it seems.

>>215644
To be fair this comic is fucking awfully misrepresenting the actual quote.

But why the fuck Willis would make a whole comic twisting the words of Bill Watterson, I have no fucking clue.

Pouting jetpack president is adorable

>>215654
It's more like he's twisting what the original comic twisted the original words into. Double twisting.

i hope zen pencils and willis consume each other in some kind of fucked up ourosboros and leave this wretched planet once and for all

>>215598

Do not read Glam Rock Gorilla it is the literal worst.

>>215686
haw haw

also i forgot monster garden somehow: http://www.monstersgarden.com/
and you ALL better be reading poppy: poppy-opossum.com
dont read: aghoststorycomic.com

>>215654
>But why the fuck Willis would make a whole comic twisting the words of Bill Watterson, I have no fucking clue.
Why else?
To persist on his personal sense of right.

>>215626
What I got from it is "follow your dreams, don't go into a job that'll only make you miserable". Which is a thing I very strongly believe anyways.

There was another page last friday.
He's really asking for a punch...

>>215724
>>215621
>>215622
>>215653
That's Willis in a nutshell.
Reason of why I stopped following any thing he does, it's very VERY rare to find any interesting not-self righteous or "progressive" from him.

>>215810
And he shall receive one!

>>215660
I'm curious, how terrible you say Zen pencil is?

>>215811

zen pencils makes the kind of comics that are saccharine in their message and visually supported by (typically) non sequitur comics that give terrible or stupid advice.
the source material (the quotes) are solid, the images range from "yep that a literal interpretation of the quote" to "jesus what the fuck". remember that comic that said to leave your wife and steady job so you can become ned stark. or the one that said beat the shit out of the people bullying you with a hammer. or when zen pencils dude drew a comic of something a black teacher said and drew a white dude saying the quote.
zen pencil is the kind of thing thats visual cream-of-wheat. its bland and flavorless. its not the worst ever but its just tips the scale from being "easily-ignorable mediocrity" to "this is stupid and insincere"

why care about other comics when jerkcity exists

>>215814
Because I don't think its that funny.

>>215811
>First panel
Jojo reference?

>>215820

>>215813

For every Bill Watterson interpretation that makes me rethink my job situation there are a dozen Don Quixote glorifications.

>>215814
Obviously because I need webcomics that aren't a reminder of how no one uses such a perfect chat program with me.

>>215637
Well, I guess she still remember us... Right?
Right?!

>>215842
There was a second part when that guy got arrested for killing a turtle, right?

I wonder if this is going to be a thing where the only family that actually cares about Sette is Anadyne (her dad clearly doesn't).

Okay wow this thing with Amy and Ryan is actually really breaking my heart because their relationship is one of the cutest things in this entire comic.

>>215873
What's more: There's an implication that even if they never got together, they were still at some point in this reality friends and clearly had a nasty falling out.

>>215875
I dunno, I don't remember Amy's hair ever being THAT wild, or her tattoos being that extensive. Something has been put awry in this timeline. Maybe Ryan didn't listen to her advice, maybe something happened to Shelley, maybe anything, really. I mean, what did Charlotte and Mildred actually change, if anything?

John, if you rob Ames and Ryan of their happy ending I will be very cross.

>>215877
I'm sure he won't. This is just an excuse to have that "SGR Pseudo-Reunion" he was wanting to do.

>>215862
>Anyone caring about Sette

Hahaha! Oh ha ha ha! Ho ho! Ha! What sort of comic do you think this is? Obviously she's just going to see Sette as means to an end, and eventually do something awful to her! The only one who cares is the Zombie that loses his mind at night!

WHAT

>>215932
I hope I know where this is going.
(Guts vs 100 soldiers) Hundred…

I... I identify with this comic a little too much possibly. Living semi-illegally off the charity of friends who possibly hate you now, eating ramen and whatever you got from the food bank.

Well, not anymore, but this hits dangerously close to home.

so uh how is everyone else liking Lucky Penny?

>>215932
I get the feeling Tarquin doesn't really care if they don't manage to kill Roy, he just wants to give Elan more reason to personally hate him.

>>215967
No, Tarquin is quite simply self-obsessed, he thinks everything revolves around himself, that HE is the greatest villain in the narrative of the comic not the Lich he knows vaguely of, the obsession he has with Elan filling the role of the hero is just an extension of that.

I'm just hoping the the final boss isn't Xykon. Of the major villains remaining, it can only really be Xykon, the IFCC, or Redcloak unless you count the Snarl, which frankly I'm starting to doubt the continued existence of, and both Redcloak and the fiends are far more interesting than Xykon.

Okay, if they were going to try and take refuge in the portal, they're gonna have to fight their way to it at this point.

Tarquin continues to be far too medium-aware, and progressively more crazy-go-nuts. I did like the crack about finding new teammates though.

>>216009
I stand corrected, I've just come to expect anything Tarquin does that might be bad to not be what he actually did. Same reason I can't tell if this is actually gearing up to his end or not.

The problem I have is stuff like overlooking Sabine or putting the PCs in a situation where they're CERTAIN TO FAIL both seem like bizarre oversights for the character we've been presented, so I'm sticking with the idea that he's got some other plan.

>>216032
He may be so meta-aware in regards to classic Villain Teams that it doesn't occur to him that Sabine and Nale were genuinely in love and that he wasn't just a pawn to her

I mean, bad guys with loved ones? pffh

>>216032
He thinks he can kill off Roy because Roy is an Obi-Wan, and that by killing him it will force Elan to take his 'rightful place' as the leading hero

As for the rest they are just collateral damage, easily replaced at the next tavern and simply another reason for the heroic son to hate his tyrannical father and fuel his desire to bring him down.

>>216035
Team Tarquin itself pretty clearly has quite a lot of genuine trust and affection amongst its members.

>>216042
>He thinks he can kill off Roy because Roy is an Obi-Wan

I wonder how he'd react to finding out Elan's actual mentor is continents away and avoiding Elan for entirely that reason.

THIS HAND OF MINE GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER
ITS BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO DEFEAT YOU

>>216053
I would've referenced Spirit Gun instead

>>216053
We Yusuke Urameshi now.

>>215811
someone just story timed the thing on /co/ and it grabbed some attention.

>>216014
I love this. Tarquin is so convinced that he's the main villain and Elan is the main hero, it's going to be the thing that gets him defeated. It would be such a great twist if Roy was the one to finish him off.

Maybe it's just the uncommon character position, but I think he's changed his art style again.

Just make the entire comic this VanHeist. I don't know which is worse at the blue balls, this of Menage a 3 or whatever its called. At least this way it'd kick ass

HA HA, Lieutenant is promiscuous and hilarious.

>Nale's cameo