You can't kill Sabo, cause he's on a boat!

I hope.

Sabo is a badass.

I cannot even begin to fathom what goes into this disturbing line of reasoning.

>dat cover
"All land snails are hermaphrodites, producing both spermatozoa and ova."

so does this mean all den den mushis are [spoiler]from crossdresser kingdom?

So apparently not knowing when to let it lie and run is something Ace didn't grow out of.

Ace you idiot. You stupid, stupid... goddamnit. If Dadan dies because of your "herp derp I must face teh enemeez" issues I am going to be 300x angrier with you for not learning your fucking lesson and letting Akainu troll your dumb ass.

;_;

SABO IS--
alot older now

Well, there's an answer we've been waiting for.

>>8013

Dadan is fine, when Luffy's latest bounty was released the mayor of Fuchsia town mentioned her in the present tense.

>>8014

THE END OF SABAODY ARCHIPELAGO MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW

>>8016
Is he a rebel? A pirate? Sichibukai? Kuma's a true man of mystery.

also, godamn, I though Sabo would ship with the rebels, but he's a pirate now. Wonder why ace didn't tell luffy to say hi to sabo if he comes across him. Unless the tenryobito shoot his pirate ship next chapter.

>>8017
well, no one knows what happened to ace between that final showdown and the time when he catches up to Luffy except that he joined with the whitebeard pirates. also, for all we know Sabo and Ace didn't meet up again between that time so a lot of things are possible.....

>>8018
yeah, but its wierd. Ace told luffy to say hi to that idiot Dadan, but not Sabo. Either sabo was a character Oda JUST though of, or luffy and ace think he's dead. Or he IS dead.

worried now.

>>8016
>>8014

OK, I'm tired as hell so please... explain for me.

>>8020

Kuma was an ex-revolutionary who went out of his way to save his ex-boss's son (possibly on his own or on orders from Dragon). This is why he kept improving his offer at Thriller Bark (everyone dead>Luffy dead>Zoro dead>Zoro hurt) and why he saved everyone from Kizaru by sending them to places they could improve or where the revolutionaries had some influence.

>>8019
>Either sabo was a character Oda JUST thought of

Yeah, I'm gonna put my money on it not being this one. Any other manga, maybe, but not Oda.

THIS COVER

Is adorable. Seriously.

>>8023
It's good to see that Dragon is a friend to the animals

>>8024
Yeah, when he's not messing around

Kinda awesome to see Dadan and gang show up to save Luffy and Ace
andDragon recruiting the people who have witnessed the noble's cruelty first hand
Wonder if that could lead to Hancock and the other Amazons joining up with the revolutionaries.

>>8026
He's nutty!

>>8029

And now I'm imagining Dragon trying to juggle pies.

>>8030
What a bizarre turn of events

SABO CONFIRMED FOR tenth

>>8036
I think I'd be okay with that, provided we were given a good deal of build up for it.

>>8043
Do you think he'd be a fruit user? And if so: what fruit? The water controlling user we've been waiting for?

>>8036
tenth?

also, seeing dadans crew save ace and luffy was pretty cool. Despite their negligence, they actually see ace, luffy and sabo as family.

So people, place your bets on Dragon's powers.

>>8058
Wind Paramecia

>>8058
I'm pretty sure that was a Hell Wink we just saw.

>>8058
Mythical Zoan, Dragon type, which may or may not have wind powers similar to how Marco has the ability to turn into blue flame, and heal wounds, only his powers would be less about healing, and more about using weather to fuck shit up.

Also, when Blackbeard takes his power too, (and trust me, if it ain't him, it'll be some other HAX zoan big bad,) it'll mean he'll have the ultimate Zoan fruit, the ultimate Logia fruit, and the ultimate Paramecia fruit at his disposal. And seriously, how cool would a final boss of a dragon whose wing beats shoot out earthquakes, hurricanes and black holes be?

the person who made that pathway out of the fire could've been any of the three we know, or perhaps a mystery third.

hell wink
kuma blast
dragon using his maybe power that he might have
other

god damn you Oda

>>8092

inazumi?

>>8092
in the panel before, there was a spiral of lines around the guys head, which usually indicates winds. I think it was dragon. Dragon controls the wind, and through the wind, he can move storm clouds in from elsewhere, which would explain rogue town.

and if its a paramecia wind and not a Logia, that would be rediculous. Wind is an element, and all the elements we've seen so far have been logia. Anyone who says that would be too overpowered needs to consider Kizaru.

>>8116
There is no proof that Dragon can control the wind, it's goddamn "Loguetown", and there have been storms there every time the story has passed through.

You're making a lot of assumptions.

This is not my observation, but it is a good one.

>>8118
Based on Smoker's reaction I've always assumed Dragon does wind.

Also no need to be so aggressive, sir.

>>8118

Nami mentioned that the storm seemed unnatural, and Nami feels the weather in her goddamned bones. Somehow, the weather worked perfectly in Luffy's favor, to the point where Smoker wondered out loud if some higher power was helping him escape.

I mean it's not a sure thing, but it's a pretty fair guess.

>>8124
>>8129

still, it could've been Ivankov or Kuma; and the weather working exactly to luffy's favor can be explained through Buggy raising the sword, thus making it the highest metal point in all of logue town during a storm, or sheer luck. Hell, Roger himself got helped with a storm during that Shiki fiasco

>>8130

It's not just the lightning. Nami said that the storm itself was coming in unnaturally fast. The rain put out Moji's attempted ship burning, and wet the gunpowder of the Marine unite guarding the ship. The wind changed to give the Merry a tailwind. A huge wind blast cleared the path for Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro to make it away from Smoker.

The weather was on Luffy's side in a lot of ways at Loguetown.

>>8132

still, with Oda who knows if that is significant towards Dragon's power or not

Also every time Dragon appears, there's a change in the weather. Every time. The wind starts blowing the day he's in Edgetown. I agree that the fire path was probably a Hell Wink, mostly because air feeds fire. I strongly suspect that he can only move or alter existing weather formations, so the Buggy lightning bolt was probably guided by Dragon, but not created by him.

I... suppose you're right.

Sorry.

>>8022

Recall the flashback during Ace's death where we first see Ace and Luffy sharing booze together as brothers. Recall that you can just barely make out a third cup at the edge of the panel...

Current candidates for tenth:

-Jinbei
-Sabo
-That badass eyepatch fish from Buggy's cover arc

>>8141
I say Marguerite as a special envoy of her highness Boa Hancock, since she cannot leave her people. Her mission is threefold.

- To protect the beloved of her highness from enemies
- To protect the beloved of her highness from the vile vixens on his crew
- To teach the beloved of her highness the means of harnessing Haki

But if she so much as looks at Luffy in anyway that would be considered lewd or lusting, she should expect a fate worse than execution!

But Hal, you say, what could she possibly bring to the crew?

WELL I'LL TELL YOU!

- We'd have another long range specialist (if we can have two types of swordsmen), that will be able to damage Logias.

- she'd even out the chick count some.

- again, someone to teach Luffy how to use haki (and potentially Zoro and Sanji as well.)

>>8144
This is just like when everyone thought Camie would join.
She's just not weird enough.

>>8144
It's pointless to have her on the ship if she doesn't have a goal of her own. Yes, it would make sense, but it wouldn't work thematically.

"...to become the King of the Pirates!"
"...to become the world's greatest swordsman!"
"...to create a map of the world!"
"...to become a brave warrior of the sea!"
"...to discover the All Blue!"
"...to discover a cure for all sickness!"
"...to discover the secrets of the past!"
"...to build a ship that crosses the Grand Line!"
"...to fulfill a promise to an old friend!"
"...to watch after this guy because my boss told me to."

See what I'm talking about?

>>8141

I'm thinking it'll be Jimbi, but Sabo might join up later. So then we'd have a fishman and someone related to the world nobles in the crew as well.

>>8146
I can't remember, when Nami first met up with Zoro and Luffy at the beginning, did she tell them her dream?

If not, then I see no reason why someone without an outright stated dream couldn't join the crew. I don't know if Marguerite would be the one I vouch to join, and certainly not the tenth, (There are nine people in the Strawhats, but Brook is only the eighth CREWMATE, meaning we have TWO more to go.)

>>8149
No, and neither did Robin, so you have a point there.

I still say she's not weird enough, though, either in personality or in fighting style. Other than being extra-friendly with Luffy, she doesn't really have anything to set her apart from the other Amazons. Some of the Strawhats caught us by surprise (Chopper, Robin, Franky), but they were all very distinctive characters from the beginning.

My money's still on a fishwoman grandma.

>>8150
Robin was the only member who surprised me.

I argued for ages with some idiot who assured me that Paulie would be the new crew member, not Franky, and Chopper was too cute not to join.

requirements to being a strawhat:
1. being a pal to luffy (Boa, Margueritte, Jimbei, Camie) good start, Perona is immediately out.
2. be able to fight (Boa, Margueritte, Jimbei) Camie can't even walk, so unless she turns 30 then I don't even see her as a potential member
3. have a skill that is useful on a ship or something Luffy wants ()

so, most likely we'll just get someone new at Fishman Island. Probably a fishwoman(note: different from mermaid) and it'll be nobody we've seen before.

Didn't Jimbei promise Ace that he'd protect his little brother though? I think he'll at least stay around through Fishman Island, maybe join up temporarily like Vivi did.

>>8152
Being a pal isn't always necessary. Robin wasn't and neither was Franky, until push came to shove.

>>8145
Weird enough? When the hell was that a requirement?

>>8146>>8149
We learned about several of the crew members dreams AFTER they joined so there's something there.

>>8150
"YOUR BALLS! LET ME SEE YOUR BALLS! ARE THEY TRULY MADE OF GOLD?!"

I never let anything cloud my judgment, I picked of the available choices, Marguerite, as she was the most logical choice.

Boa needs to do damage control for her actions in the war and needs to keep her Warlord status to protect Amazon Lily.

Caime has always been a ridiculous choice.

Now more than ever, Jimbe has to bust his ass protecting Fishman Isle, since Whitebeard is dead anything under his reign is fresh territory to invade, that includes Jimbe's home man, he'll go down there with the Strawhats, but he ain't comin' back up with them.

NOW! If Sabo is still alive and he's still a pirate, and he has some real talent then yes. But right now all we know is that he's got a dream, he's got talent with a bo staff, and he just finished setting sail.

... Oh god that giant sea monster that bit off Shanks arm is still there, Luffy had to punch him in the face when he set sail. OH GOD SABO, DON'T TELL ME YOU GET EATEN BY THE LORD OF THE COAST!

Anyway, since Sabo is in limbo and the other obligations are very very important, Marguerite made the most sense given the facts.

BUT! I personally believe that some new character will be introduced and we'll all be demanding he/she join instantly.

Well, let's look at it this way: who/what else do they need on the crew?

A fishperson would be good because they lack a strong swimmer. Maybe someone with some sort of knowledge of the New World/Marines/Nobles or something like that. Barring that, are there any basic ship's crew positions that they haven't filled yet?

Considering that Brook brought nothing except "he amuses Luffy" and having an epic dream he had to achieve (in fact, by your logic he's really a liability, as they have to rescue yet another fruit user from the water) I don't think there's a point to figuring out who the next Strawhat will be through what skills they need.

>>8160
Franky and Sanji have both shown themselves to be strong swimmers

>>8161
Oh come on now, you're reducing the hell out of Brook's usefulness.

His musical skills have the power to affect enemies in unexpected ways.

His light body makes him the most agile member of the crew, hell he's even able to run across the surface of the water!

Really we just need to see the fellow in action more, it's a shame that right after he joined they met up with Kuma-Droids, Axe Sumo, and ADMIRAL BEAMSPAM

>>8163
Well, yeah, they know that now. But Luffy literally knew him for 2 minutes before he asked him to join. And later they decided he should join them after hearing the Laboon story, not because of his combat prowess.

And like you said, he hasn't shown his skills enough, we don't really know what he's fully capable of yet.

And he's a musician, and Luffy had been talking about getting a musician for ages.

Don't suppose someone wants to go through the manga and see if anyone mentions any positions that haven't been filled yet?

Let's see...we have captain, swordsman/first mate, navigator/cartographer, sniper/lookout/ammunitions expert, cook, doctor, archeologist/historian, shipwright and musician. So we've got people in charge, weapons, matinance, food, entertainment, someone to tend to injuries, someone who knows where they're going and how to deal with weather conditions, someone who knows stuff about where they're going...

Ummmm...cabin boy?

Or I guess someone who knows stuff about the New World, but Luffy probably wants that to be a suprise. Someone who used to be in the marines or even the revolutionaries might be useful, but I think they'd need more than that.

>>8166
Helmsman is the popular theory.

>>8167
Seems like kind of a useless 'official' position, it's not like they need one guy with skills specifically for that role.

>>8166
Robin is their local library. If anything, she should learn about the New World, instead of having somebody basically replace her as the scholar.

>>8167>>8168
... You know there's a reason there's such a position as "WHEELMAN" in crime moves. Often played by Jason Statham

Because sure, they can sail, and with Nami navigating they can survive. BUT IN THE WILD AND STRANGE WATERS OF THE NEW WORLD YOU NEED SOMEONE WITH LIGHTING FAST REFLEXES, AND UNSHAKABLE NERVES.

You need someone who can respond instantly to Nami's orders, and someone who can read the waves as well as her.

This is why I think that if we get a Helmsman it should be a fishperson who also brings to the crew Water Manipulation, super strength, faction representation, and if it's a chick, again, balances out the gender quotients.

>>8170
>BUT IN THE WILD AND STRANGE WATERS OF THE NEW WORLD YOU NEED SOMEONE WITH LIGHTING FAST REFLEXES, AND UNSHAKABLE NERVES.

Isn't that, like... all of them? I doubt anybody can read the waves as well as Nami can. That's her thing.

Eh. Just "some fishman" isn't weird or interesting enough. I like the idea of Sabo, but no other character so far has sounded like a good tenth.

>>8171
According to Rayleigh, the ocean gets even tougher after the second half of the red line.

helmsman? useless, they have nami
margueritte? who needs her they already have a ranged guy, and I want Luffy to figure out Haki(if he ever does) on his own.
fishperson, perhaps a tailor that knows fishman karate or has a unique weapon of sorts. or both.

the best bet is that it's someone we have never seen before.

>>8170
Their controlstick isn't on the deck and driving a car isn't it same as steering a large boat
The crew doesn't need anyone special to do that, they already take care of it fine as is.

I'm starting to hope they never get a fishperson on the crew...

>>8175
Why?

Here's something to ponder: What color would the new crewmate be represented by? We're pretty covered on the Roy G Biv scale.

Also, Perona for crewmate. I know it'll never happen, but I can dream.

>>8177
Grey. And the smell of Cigars. And a representation of a gorilla.

Lots of butthurt in here that again boils down to the fact you just really seem to want a new cute girl on the crew.

Honestly I don't think Oda will introduce a new member for awhile. We haven't had time to really get to know Franky yet, let alone Brook. It's time for some srs bsns bonding time.

>>8058

i'm betting none, you know who we know for sure can push around storms like they're nothing? Kuma

>>8191
you are most likely right. I'm hoping for Hancock to interact with the crew (especially Sanji) for a little bit and if were lucky Jimbe will accompany them to fishmen island.

>>8184
I like how you think.

There's also a spare docking station for his smoke bike

Been hoping for him for ages to be honest.

>>8266
You know, even if he doesn't become a Strawhat, I do believe there will be at least an arc where he and Luffy join forces.