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17557 No.17557
Go see this as soon as possible.

I'm not gonna say a thing about it unspoilered, just go. Go see it.

Hey, wasn't that guy in 3rd Rock From the Sun?

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No.17950
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17950
Uh, spoilerific and NSFW, I guess.

No.17956
If nothing else, I love the charts this movie has created.

No.17960
Are people really having that hard of a time following the plot? It's a really straight forward and the movie provides cues to help you keep track through out the entire heist. Why the hell does anyone need a flow chart?

No.17962
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>>17913

This, plus the fact that the top wobbled, which we never see it do in the dreams, convinces me that Cobb was in reality, and that he did get a happy ending

No.17976
>>17960
I actually don't personally know anyone who had a problem with it (including people who normally have issues following movies that aren't completely spoonfed). I think most of it is from the hype.

No.17981
>>17960
One of the people who saw it with me didn't follow a smidgen of the dream shit, and when we went to dinner she described it to other people as a movie about a guy whose wife killed herself because she was having hallucinations from some drug and so he starts taking the drug and has hallucinations and flashbacks of like a dozen different places he's been to with all these people and then at the end he kills himself I guess and his kids are there so I'm guessing they died somewhere in there too, the wife probably killed them because their apartment was a mess when the guy found her.

No.17983
>>17981
Life must be very hard for that woman.

No.17985
>>17983
She thinks the Iron Man movies are Spider Man sequels. So yeah.

No.17989
>>17981
I fuckin' lold. She has a bright future ahead of her.

No.17990
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17990
I saw this on /sp/ and lol'd

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17991
>>17981>>17985
Wh-

Bu-

How...?

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Terrible screencap not withstanding

No.18066
Okay, I already said I wasn't too confused or puzzled by this movie, but I may have had it all wrong.

The entire film is Leonardo diCaprio's subconscious trying to wake him up, working continuously in infinite loops. The washing-up on the shore, the repeated chords of music at the first and final scenes, the kids wearing the exact same outfits, perched in the exact same positions as they had been throughout the movie, not having aged a day, the top wobbling but then keeping on, etc.

Mal is awake and in the real world. Limbo is supposed to be levels below, so it doesn't make sense a single kick would bust them out. They would need multiple kicks.

This part I'm not so sure about. Some versions of Mal are real - she's down in there trying to get him to wake up, and the other characters are also taking part in this whole made-up plot about Fisher, set up by Cobb's brain, to get him to wake up. Mal in limbo is a projection.


Or else Saito and Cobb died in limbo, everyone else was fine in the reality of the airplane, but ehhh I'm not so sure about this one.

No.18067
>>18066
Another reason for why I believe this:
[spoiler]At one point in the film, when Cobb and Juno are at the cafe, it seems like a natural scene transition. BUT WAIT, the movie asks, how the heck did they get there? And suddenly they're dreaming.

The sudden scene transition to Barbossa (or wherever the hell) followed. No plane, no evidence of travel, suddenly Cobb is just there.

The side characters, Arthur, Juno, Scarecrow, etc. are all outside agents working in there, which is why they can argue and have their own ideas unlike other projections.[/spoilers]

No.18072
>>18067
This is terrible. First off, Mombasa.
Second off, if it's true it eliminates the most emotional part of the movie, ie- Fisher's reconciliation with his father

No.18078
>>18066>>18067
Yet they did not use Mr.Charles on Cobb

No.18113
>>18072
eh, it just made sense to me. I mean, why are they orchestrating all these simultaneous kicks to get out of each dream level, when a single one, even from limbo, got Mal and Cobb out of limbo? But from the start of the film we see that a single kick takes you out of a single dream level, so it's obvious that Cobb never did enter reality, while Mal may have.

And that 'emotional point' or whatever was just set-up by the team, so... yeah.

No.18114
>>18078
I assumed they were just going on with the elaborate role-play scenario in an attempt to reach him. God knows how long this shit has being on.

idk, this just seemed really simple and obvious to me but I have a tendency to think things entirely wrong! And I fucked up my last spoiler tag, oh well.

No.18115
Just saw the movie tonight.

Yeah, I'm sticking with the simpler ending. Occam's Razor, yo.

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>>18115
After seeing it a 2nd time, I've decided to believe Cobb does live in reality, and he did get to finally come home to his kids. It's just that Nolan deliberately wants to draw attention to the fact that Cobb's not entirely sure of reality. The wedding ring was a huge selling point for me.

Also, I was pretty shocked at this.

No.18120
>>18113
Because there were no other higher dream levels when they were in limbo? Limbo death kicks you up to the next level. When Mal and Cobb were there there were NO higher dream levels, so they woke up in reality.
When Ariadne and Fisher got kicked, they kicked up one level to Eames' dream. If he hadn't been dreaming they would have been kicked up to Arthur's dream. Etc etc etc.

No.18121
>>18119

Calling it now, ArthurxEames is the biggest pairing, next to CobbxAriadne.

No.18122
>>18120
he said they just kept going down until they 'washed up on the shore of their own subconscious' (oh my GOD the script was ridiculous), so yeah, higher dream levels, they must have just kept hooking themselves up to the dream machines or whatever like everyone else does. the only reason the other people, arthur, eames, etc. are still 'awake' in the higher dream levels was to synch the kicks, mal and cobb didn't have anyone so just had to kick themselves. and the whole thing about limbo was that it's another level deep within a dream within a dream and shit

auugh why am i still talking about this damn movie

>>18121
man, where the hell did Arthur/Eames even come from? None of the side characters got much development, it just seems silly.

No.18123
>>18113
Because Limbo is different.

No.18124
>>18122
>The Straight Man and the Smart Ass

Obvious pairing is obvious.

No.18129
Because women will always crave slash. I have no idea why, but being a woman myself, I am sometimes helpless to that slashy siren call.

oh god don't kill me guys
But seriously, Arthur/Eames is pretty piss poor in terms of canon evidence. I don't get it. And then there is the RPF involving JGL and Tom Hardy. I shudder.

No.18131
>>18122

Look, it's more simple than you're trying to make it out to be. If you die in a dream, you wake up. If you die while under sedation in a dream, you go to limbo. The dangerous part about Limbo is that you can no longer tell reality from a dream (Cobb is the exception, because he was in Limbo so damn long). Nowhere is it stated that you can't exit Limbo the normal way (killing yourself) while under sedation. After all, you can't go to Limbo if you're already IN LIMBO, so the sedation effect doesn't work anymore.

No.18132
>>18122
No see, they have to stay behind not to synchronize the kicks, but to dream the dream. If your architect goes down then the dream that you left your body in would crumble. Theoretically with no one else left to see the destruction it shouldn't matter.
Whatever the phrasing of how they got to limbo was stupid as fuck. The final decision I made is that they went down one dream level but were under sedation so that they could, I don't know, dream longer, dream deeper, something, and then they died and ended up in limbo.

Also Eames/Arthur bores me. So does Cobb/Ariblahblahfuckinblah. So does Arthur/Ariblahblahblah. Boring pairings are boring and predictable.

No.18133
>>18131
But in the very first scene, when we go from Saito's dream to Cobb's to the train, we see Arthur die and wake up in Cobb's dream. One death = one dream level, not full wakefulness.

so basically this movie made no goddamn sense whatsoever.

No.18134
Maybe instead of an actual separate place, "Limbo" is just a catch-all term for all of the dream layers so far down that time is effectively meaningless for the dreamers.

And maybe the "one level per death" thing holds true even for limbo, but if the dreams in the levels above you have already collapsed you just jump straight to the surface if you can.

No.18135
>>18133
No no no no no no no

They weren't under sedation during that time. It was just a dream in a dream. It's if you die in a dream you knock up one level. If you die in Limbo you wake up. They couldn't enter limbo in that double dream because they weren't under strong sedation.

No.18136
>>18135
No, because Ellen and Scarecrow both wake up in the snow level and have to ride the kick back up to the other levels.

No.18139
>>18136
>>18133
This.

We know Cobb and Mal were in limbo, regardless of whatever kind of sedation they used, because when Juno and Scarecrow get there they're in the exact same place Cobb and Mal were in, and in order for them to get out they needed the multiple kicks for each dream level.

Either Cobb never entered reality, while Mal had a chance because she was ready to kick herself the rest of the way up, while Cobb couldn't tell dream from reality (as is heavily implied throughout the film), or else the whole damn movie makes no sense and relied on a plothole. But I liked the movie, so I'll go with the former.

No.18144
>>18136
But they didn't die, they only had a kick. She woke up in the snow level before she hit the ground.

No.18145
>>18139
But in the case of Scarecrow and Juno, they had a dream level to jump up to above that. The snow level and all the levels above it except the city level collapsed while Cobb and Saito were in limbo.

No.18157
>>18144
No. You can't kick yourself from the level below, you have to be kicked from the level above. In order for Cobb to get out of Arthur's collapsing dream they had to kick him from Nash's dream. In order to get people out of the first level of dreaming you kick them in reality.

She hit the ground dude.

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18283
Suddenly, dream shit everywhere.

Although I guess this would be more like extraction...

This comic came out in 2002, around the same time Inception was pitched, so don't throw a fit about who stole from who.

No.18295
>>18283

I don't think anyway would have claimed that anyone was stealing this concept from anyone.

This isn't exactly an original concept, there have been literally hundreds, if not thousands, of movies with a similar premises, or television shows that had an episode like this.

No.18298
>>18283 You can read it here by the way.
https://plus4chan.org/boards/co/res/57991.html

No.18315
>>18298
I need to visit +4 /co/ more often....

>>18295
Oh trust me, there are people.

No.18370
Saw it last night. In Spanish. I dunno if as a prank or as a welcome back gift.
Dub wasn't as bad as I thought. It was very good, actually. ...Though I'd still rather see it in English.

As for the movie, I loved it. Nolan did his research in terms of dreaming, the theories that come along with it within other things.
I especially liked the implementation and explanation of the mylonic jerk - with the simplified term of "kick."

It wasn't as "mindfuck" as many people say it is, but I find no problem with that.
The only time I felt confused was the post wash-up prologue. The Cobol heist. How it went from some city in the middle of a riot in what seemed to be Syria, to a bullet train in Japan.
Only part. After an explanation, that was straightened out and it was smooth sailing.

But yeah - it was pretty simple really. And I don't mean it in a "I knew the twist to the 6th Sense" kinda way, but in the "Hey, I know what he's talking about" kinda way.
I'm shite at explaining.

Probably due the shite I've studied on the subject. Lucid Dreaming, Reality Testing, Prolongation, False Awakenings - the basis of the entire job within other things.

...Yeah. Cool movie.

No.18745
After finding out my parents just went to see this movie...I'm not so sure that people over the age of 50 should be allowed to go.

I had to explain to the two of them who "the old man at the beginning and end of the movie" was.

No.18759
  This really fucked me up.
Hans Zimmer you fucking sneak.

No.18780
>>18759
Oh wow, that's actually pretty neat.

No.18790
>>18759
I believe the actress who played Mal was also in a film where she played someone who sang that song.

No.18792
>>18759
I feel stupid for having to have it pointed out for me how that means the music cue we're hearing is the music they're playing in-movie but time-dilated.

No.18818
>>18790

Yeah, Nolan almost cut the song out for that reason. I'm glad he didn't; it fits so well.

No.18841
>>18790
Yes, she played in "La Môme". The movie was based on the life of Edith Piaf, the lady who wrote "Rien de rien". So she sang that famous song during that movie.

No.18842
>>18841
Or maybe it was "Non, je ne regrette rien". Whatever, you get the idea.



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