Did you just list Planetes and Shinkai alongside motherfucking Monster? Jesus christ, how dare you insult Urasawa like that.

>>46511
Don't diss Planetes. It's about the only romance anime I can stand.

>I've heard Pluto is pretty great so I should probably try that out, right?
If you like unnecessarily grimdark adaptations that add nothing of value to the original and typical Urasawa then sure.

Speaking of odd adaptations have you seen Gankutsuo: The Count of Monte Cristo?

>>46511

deal w/ it nerd

>>46513

Oh damn I remember seeing previews for this years ago. So it was actually good?

>>46513
>Actually recommending Gankutsou
NO. FUCK NO. THAT SHIT NEEDS TO BE ERASED FROM HISTORY.

>>46516
NO SENOR DON'T DO IT. GANKUTSUO OR WHATEVER IS FUCK AWFUL

>>46516
It is absolutely awful.

-Shitty paisley pattern scroll outfits.
-Erratic pacing
-Fucking ALBERT is the main character instead of Edmund
-Edmund is pretty much an outright villain now
-CGI MECH FIGHTS FUCK YOU GONZO IT WAS NOT GOOD IN VANDREAD IT'S NOT GOOD NOW
-Terrible ending
-Shitty opening music

Having said that
+The ED music is fucking awesome
+Good character designs
+Edmund is motherfucking Jougi Nakata

>>46519

>CGI MECH FIGHTS

Hahah oh god what

Thanks for the warning guys.

>>46520
Yeah it pretty much spits on the greatest novel of all time.

The weird part is this:
It actually retains a lot more of the subplots than most adaptations. In some ways, it's the most faithful adaptation of the series I've seen BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING SPACE OPERA. If you're going to do THAT, you should make it more LOOSE.

Kind of how Nadia was loose as shit with 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, except that's not a very good example because I also hate Nadia, just a lot less and for different reasons.

>>46513

> unnecessarily grimdark adaptations

... really?

REALLY? I mean... for gods sake. I've read BOTH the original World's Strongest Robot story AND Pluto and their plots are EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME. I'd say it was unnecessarily grim dark if they had more deaths or gore for shock value. But what Pluto does is that it goes in depth of the story and characters. The original story mostly just ignores the robot's pasts, histories and the environment. The original story was (expectedly) a story about Astro. But Pluto is really more of a story about the world of Astro Boy and it really does make things a lot more in-depth and interesting.

The biggest complaint I could honestly give about Pluto is the rather blatant America going into Iraq for oil allegory. Other than tiny little bit? Shit's good and mostly true to the original.

Pluto is great. Urasawa is still the Hitchcock of suspense manga.

I got so involved that at one point I actually started talking to the pages without realizing I was, which led to an interesting chat with my roommate.

>>46523
Where did you read the original Astro Boy story? I've been looking around for it, but both internet and combing through any trades I can find have turned up nil so far.

>>46550

Astro Boy trade #3 released by Dark Horse contains both it and a another smaller side-story.

>>46551
Thanks, bro. I'll go see if I can get it, I've been wanting to compare the stories for a while.

>>46523
That's what I mean. The difference is the original was only serious when it needed to be but yet portrayed the exact same message. Hell I don't think Atom smiled once in the whole series.

>>46579

The thing was: The Atom story was a story about Atom. It was a story about Atom coming to grips with the idea of "being the strongest" and coming to terms about how war doesn't solve anything and being the strongest isn't important.

Pluto isn't a story about Atom. Atom is a character in it. But he's not the pivotal character. It's a story about a futuristic world where robots are trying to fight for their own rights as individuals. If it were just a direct port of the entire story it'd have just been a wankfest of Tetsuwa Atom. But it wasn't. It was basically taking the world of Atom and making it shockingly realistic, pointing out just how deep the story of a cartoon robot was.

The only way it's more serious is that instead of having the 8 strongest robots be random side-characters who're killed off. They actually explore their backgrounds and motivations. If you consider exploring the depth and consequences of the world around Atom as he goes through his adventures "needlessly grimdark" then maybe you should consider not thinking too hard about any story you read for fear of the rather terrible subtext a lot of stories have, even with a bright face. It's dark, yes, but it's not grim. There's plenty of hope and happiness in the book, it's just hard to attain is all.

And what the hell are you talking about "Atom doesn't smile"? He smiles plenty in Pluto.

Gankutsuo was awesome, but it wasn't a good adaptation. Once you get past the fact that it's not Monte Cristo, it gets good.

No offense to Rodyle, but it looks like he was expecting a faithful adaptation and he really shouldn't have expected that at all. It's fucking GONZO.

It's the best thing that GONZO has ever done, but I'm sure that's not really saying much when you realize that it's GONZO.

Besides, it could have been something like the Starship Troopers anime, and that would have been WORSE.

>>46522

>greatest novel of all time

Yeah, no. It's a great novel, but nowhere even close to the greatest. You seem to be edging a bit on fanboyism here, so I'll just back off.

No 20th Century Boys? Thread, I am disappoint

It's also by Urasawa. You know what, just go and read everything by Urasawa. He's done quite a few series. 20CB also has a movie trilogy, which is cool. I haven't seen it, but I hear good things.