So, thoughts on the Metroid Series?I like the series and their music. I've recently played through Fusion, Zero Mission, and Prime almost done with Echoes.
Oh yeah, I got Metroid Prime Trilogy a few weeks back. Since I'm such a slow player and been occupied with TF2 and such I'm still not done with the first, but wow, these are awesome. Even the backtracking is fun!
[Obligatory "when are they going to do something different and access the true potential of the series, characters, and gameplay" comment]
>>88631They've already completed their master work, they should retire the setting, characters and everything.
>>88631>>88632I still say this series needs a crossover with the Cthulhu mythos.
2D metroid > FPS metroid
>>89243AGREED.
>>89243Well Fusion is certainly the best game in the series. In any case, isn't Other M supposed to be both?
I'm probably the only person who doesn't care for Super Metroid. Maybe because I didn't grow up with it.
>>89261>FusionYou mean Super, Right?
>>89261Also, No, Third person and First person, not 2d.
>>89270Haha no I don't mean AIMLESS BACKTRACKING: THE GAME.
>>89272Well then, okay.
Actually the best is Zero Mission but ok
I think we can all agree Echoes was shit.
>>89280Too short for my taste.>>89282Any Metroid where LASERS have Ammo is.
>>89284>implying lasers don't require a fuel source>implying Samus has ever used lasers
>>89282>>89284Oh dear. Soon finished with the first Prime, how bad is it? Skip-directly-to-corruption-bad?
I liked Echoes. I liked the multiplayer. I liked that you got to see OTHER PEOPLE, and see how Samus is viewed by a species other than space pirates (Metroids don't count). Ammo sucks, as does being tied to the light beacons or whatever. But it was trying new things. Some worked, some didn't.>>89292I could not get through Corruption. I stopped right at the first Space Pirate encounter. It's the controls. Turning is a bitch and a half and it's such a step down from Echoes, which was a step down from Prime.
>>89292I thought Echoes was a solid B and prime was a solid A. It doesn't spit in the face of anything the previous game did, and the ammo just gave me a tangible reward for shooting the crap out of everything. Levels are a touch bland at first, but that's about it.
Echoes was experimental. It didn't really WORK, but it was experimental. And the music went down the shitter for some reason.Corruption had the fight with Rundas, one of my favorite boss fights of all time.
>>892922 is okay, 3 is the worst.>>89289Beams are Lasers, you hush.
>>89292It's considered the worst of the 3 cause it just has annoying mechanics and bosses. I'd give it a shot cause some people really enjoy it, but if you don't like it after a short time playing then you should probably skip it cause it doesn't really improve later on.
>>89299Agreed. B-, maybe, but agreed everywhere else. I agree with Growlbro (>>89300) about the music, although I had a friend who was really into it.But I think we can all agree that Echoes had one of the best suit designs of the series. And I totally kicked ass in Multiplayer.SPAM THAT BOOST BALL!
Some Echoes morph balls, just because.Have you ever noticed that from the front the morph ball looks like Samus' helmet?Do you think Samus' name might be Irish in origin? Like... Some sort of Space Irish?
Echoes had one of the best boss fights.I mean, look at this fucker. General consensus says it's at least as tall as Kraid. At least.
>>89356 >IrishApparently you're not far off.>"The name Samus is the female variant of the name Seamus, which is Celtic for James, which means: "He who supplants." Her last name of Aran may refer to the Aran Islands on the west coast of Ireland. Combining the two gives the meaning: "She who supplants an island" or "She who conquers an isolated area by force." Pronunciation of the name over the years has varied from either SAMUHS A-RUHN (as in the verb "run"), A-RAHN (using the "CAT" vowel for the first two As and the verb form of "ran"), but it wasn’t until the release of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption that pronunciation of her name was finally cemented as SAMUHS ERR-EN, and it is likely to remain this way since. "http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Samus_Aran
>>89371If Samus' family had won against the pirates, we would be playing a completely different game.Actually, not that different. Replace Ninja with Chozo and any differences are purely cosmetic.
The great thing about Metroid Prime was that everyone thought it was going to be total shit. The first build previews looked awful, Retro Studios was a smalltime developer that had just gutted its staff and canceled other games in development. People were laughing at the controls and lock on combat when it was announced. It was pretty shocking when the game started getting all 9's and 10's from review sites. The game also gets more beautiful as you progress, where most games will usually feature the first couple levels to draw you in and tail off. The music is fantastic and Retro was able to incorporate a lot of Metroid specific gameplay elements like exploring and the morph ball. Played Echoes, but it just didn't have the same magic Prime 1 did. Never played 3 because I have no Wii.
>>89379>ninja>chozoPsst. You are aware that according to Japanese myth. Ninjistu was taught to man kind by Bird-People called Tengu right?Think about that. Bird people.
I remember a lot of people having problems with the controls when Prime first came out. I didn't really get it, since the controls are basically the same as in Ocarina of Time, just in first person view and with a jump button.
>>89410Prime was released in a time where most people were adjusting to the dual analog stick aiming for consoles so it's somewhat understandable. Though they were simple to get used to so I think most were probably just bitching it didn't play like other FPS's at the time.
>>89414Indeed, instead it played like one of the only good console shooters ever.
Okay, started with Echoes today. Haven't played much, but doesn't yet see what's the big problem with it is, just seems like new levels so far.Also, you feel terribly crippled going from beating one metroid game to starting another without all your upgrades.
>>89478Yeah, it takes a little while to get bored with it.
>>89478I got as far as the multiple-missile lock on thing before never touching it again.
Im going to post Story boards! and sanctuary fortress is the best area in any metroids game ever
>>89478I'm replaying it right now, as well. And I do agree with the guys about the lasers being fucking bullshit. It wouldn't be so bad if defeating enemies with the lasers would actually yield ammo of the opposite ones. But wasting 15-20 shots of one laser to get 5 for the other is just fucking stupid and annoying.The boss fights are really fun as usual, though. Except for Boost Guardian, of course. But I even beat him on the first try.
>>89577So let me get this straight: All the beam power ups now have limmited ammo, like missiles?
>>89578Only in Echoes, which is frustrating because the Beam-Missile combos in it are amazingly cool/powerful compared to the first Prime game.
>>89580Then I know someone who's going to beat that game Power beam only, as far ast it's possible, anyway. Fucking hate conserving ammo.
I'm not the only one here watching slowbeef's LP of this, right? He and Diabeetus are the best LP team this side of the Freelance Astronauts. Plus, Ridley jokes. So many Ridley jokes.
>>89582Y'know, I watch their Retsupuraes, I've never actually seen any of their Let's Plays...
>>89582Where do I go to actually watch this?
>>89595http://bd.baldurk.org/lp/75The Echoes LP is awesome, the amount of times slowbeef has changed his opinon fromb "FUCK THIS GAME!" to "Well this game is alright" is hilarious
Okay, I reached the Spider Guardian. I take back everything about this game not being so bad. I must have repressed my memories of this bastard. Fuck this asshole! FUCK HIM!!
I didn't realize they'd stop making trilogy!Now I can't find it at all.Curse my lack of funds until just now.
>>89658They what?Goddamn it.
>>89581AGREED.That's why this isn't a really good Metroid game, Samus does NOT conserve fucking Beam ammo, THERE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE BEAM AMMO.
>>89658 >>89659Does your budget/want allow importing? The site were I brought it still have lots of it.
>>89658Yeah, they stopped making Trilogy after like fourth months. I was "lolwat", then went out and bought a used copy.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-metroid-other/703717TL;DW- Script is lousy.- Game is gorgeous- Controls are good if not strange- is 10 hours of gameplay enough for you?
>>91166As in, ten hours to complete the story, or ten hours to get 100%?
>>91166 With a samus that sounds entirely bored with everything she talks about.
>>91166Jesus, every single line of dialogue in that video was wretched.
>>91166See, this is why when Nintendo makes games, they don't have much dialogue.
http://g4tv.com/games/wii/61992/Metroid-Other-M/review/* She actually thought Samus was a good character before Other M.* She's somehow offended by the fact that Samus can feel emotions.* She hates the fact that her CO gives her orders.Metroid fans confirmed for retardation.
So basically it has a sucky storyline but has awesome game play?Not bad for a trial run. Hopefully in the future they can learn from there mistakes.
tbh, this response is a bit OOC, even if she's shocked about him being alive.
The lack of the level of atmosphere I got from the rest of the series is kinda a turnoff for me.But I still want to try it.
>>91202 It'd help if they showed just how emotionless her feelings are but it would help if she didn't project so much of her supposed like of the character in the review. Samus has always been nothing more than an emotionless suit that grunts in pain so I guess Ninja didn't want to stray too far from the mold in that regard.
>>91202 >G4
>>91256No! Don't say that, that's the one thing I was hoping for!
>>91255Wow, that's... painful. Fuck characterization, that's just clunky and lame on its own.
>>91255when did samus become a crybaby?also lol at making her visor clear so they can show her kawaii uguu~ expressions
>>91255>"DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO TREAT A LADY?!"
So....why is everyone acting like this game has Samus OOC? The official comics have her act the same.
>>91319It's not really the story I'm worried about.It's the atmosphere and exploration that has me befuddled.
>>91319I couldn't care less about story/characterization. I just want the japanese to actually understand that the reason it appeals to the rest of the world is because of the atmosphere and worlds it creates. Now, I remain hopeful that it's just my imagination/Team Ninja going "It's as non-linear as Fusion" clouding my visions of how exploratory this game is, but if other people start noticing it, then rest assured this will quickly remain the series' weakest link.
>>91328Nothing could be worse than 2 and Prime 2. Which were still good, but not great.
>>91329
>>91319I don't know about OOC, but WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>91329I really liked Prime 2 a lot. After figuring out that containers count as enemies too I didn't even mind the beam ammo.Also >>91330 is the second worst game I've ever played.
>>91364And the worst?
I guess the main grief over Other M is that the feeling of solitary is pretty much gone. Which is the thing that made the series.
>>91365Magna Carta. Some Korean RPG. It was a terrible, terrible game.
>>91319 Uh no, in the manga it's before she gets the suit that she acts like that, after she gets the suit and overcomes her fear she doesn't react like that at all against Ridley.
>>91371Seriously, it's a main plot point.
Samus, I think, was a much cooler character when she was an unknown. She never had a reason to speak, isolated on an alien planet with nothing but a badass space suit and a vaguely defined mission to kill things.We knew bits of her past (a blonde, human woman raised by alien bird people) but it was the mystery of her character that let us imagine her as well pleased. She was a badass killing machine but beyond that was where her character was left open to interpretation.Giving Team Ninja, whose writing can be seen in the largely nonsensical Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive franchises, was probably not the best choice as the people to fill in her backstory and grant a defined voice. It's extremely difficult to make a long-established character, when fully fleshed out, as interesting as the fans had imagined them... Team Ninja had no hope of even breaking even in that respect. In other words, they failed at an admittedly tough job.Look at the Zero Suit backlash from Brawl for a further example of this: character development must be handled carefully when the character in question is already an old favorite but has been minimally defined. The mystery was more interesting than the answer, and the more we see of Samus's design the less compelling it becomes.
Okay, played a bit of Super Metroid, just to have played it at least once. Man, this game is WAY overrated. This is probably the least fun I ever had playing a videogame. Stopped playing shortly after defeating Kraid. Shitty controls and completely nonsensical secret passageways that are required to move on killed off my enjoyment of this entirely. I do admit that it has awesome graphics, though.
>>91367>magna cartafffff i erased that shithole from my mind damn you for reminding me
>>91371>>91418I just re-read and stand corrected.
>>91421Agreed. Also this is why Valve should never unmask Pyro.
Of all the ways to take Metroid and Samus...why this?Has anyone anywhere been asking for this?Beuller?
Team Ninja only knows how to make two female characters.1: Helpless, squealing, doe-eyed retardsOh wait it's just one.
>>914392. Angsty tsudere jailbait.
>>914433. Americans.
>>914444. Bitches
This seems to be similar in design layout to that Tomb Raider game that came out for consoles a little while back.
I just watched 'that' cutscene and what's worse than turning her into a wuss that needs black-up to save her from something that she should be well experianced in fighting and killing is the fact the cutscenes goes to such lengths to exploit her for cheap fanservice (her armour fizzing away so easily so we get the 'pleasure' of being able to ogle her in her catsuit, all in the middle of supposedly a serious scene)
Guess I can continue not caring about my lack of a Wii then.
>>91443>>91444>>91452Those are nice archetypes, but as soon as the shit goes down, it's UGUUUUUU!!!!!
>>91421Yeah man Samus should be quiet and badass liek Mastah Chief, all that backstory and shit is boring and gets in the way of alien zappan
>>91502 What the hell kind of point are you trying to make here?Randomly having a person break down in the face of an old enemy for no reason is not good character development.
>>91504theyre probably an anime fan so they think that is good char. dev.
>>91510>implying all anime = Naruto BAWWFESTShit even HOTD which is mostly fanservice has more interesting character drama than that shit without becoming lolwutohyeah Metroid sorry. I liked Fusion and found Prime boring. Finished it once and never touched it.
>>91597All in all, Anime does tend to be over dramatic.
>>91502You know it does bro