OP from the old thread. Also was the one who suggested the subject of public opinion and costume changes.

>>25796
>bildungsroman

English Major, is that you?

>>25797
Well, I like both of those ideas. The costume idea is a cute and symbolic detail, her struggle with public opinion would be a key element to the whole "be yourself/live life your own way" etc. message of a coming of age tale.

I also like the suggestion that the story begin with her being pre-op, and perhaps never actually seeking a full sex change.

>>25797

Whoops, also wanted to say I'd write and give ideas.

I think a few things to bear in mind are the physics of the costume. If it's an A-level hero (Superman, Power Girl) man-to-woman conversion, how are their breasts...if they're prosthetic or implants...going to stand up to a beating without being destroyed. If they're implants, how did they get implanted in bullet-proof skin? If they take hormone therapies, how does they're super-metabolism handle it? Can they take human hormones? You're not just creating a transsexual/transgender character who lives in the real world, you're creating one who deals with superlative adventures.

>>25799

Yeah, what I was thinking of too.

>>25798
Naw, I just got finished with three semesters of English classes. The word is imprinted forever on my brain. blegh

Also, I can writefag a little bit. I'm a terrible artist but I can storyboard alright.

>>25802
>if they're prosthetic or implants
Perhaps prosthetic until she actually gets implants

>going to stand up to a beating without being destroyed. If they're implants, how did they get implanted in bullet-proof skin?
That'd depend on the powers we decide upon

I think removing the multi-anon syndrom by giving yourself a name should help. Gets confusing with too many people.

>>25802

Well, I suppose we have to settle right now whether she's a super hero/mutie, or just a vigilante. I think either one has some interesting components to it. For example, being a vigilante could earn her even more public scrutiny for being 'insane,' 'attention-seeking' and 'deviant'.

>>25808

Well, I think we should figure her powers first, then backtrack for a logical way she actually got those powers.

I'm somewhat against the idea of a non powered Batman-esque vigilante. Always been more of a fan of the cape comic superheroes.

>>25811
I think we're the only two posting/here.

1. I'd say male to female, its a little more 'common' in the public eye and would allow for a better comparison, costume wise, to go from a male to a female's.

2. I'd say Superhero, but that's just me.

3. Setting can be debated later, I'd say in America. Time, moder/near modern (ala DC).

4. Really, this comes down to personality, story and writing.

5. Would have to be discussed after we figure out their powers.

6. See #5, though I've had a number of ideas for a long time for villains. Then again, villains often have a theme and say something about the hero they fight.

7. This would need to be discussed at length, I think

>>25812
Choose the powers and I'll rejoin the conversation.

My main question is: if you go the super-powers-unto-cosmic route, say Green Lantern, then what would keep your character from using the Power Ring to alter her body to be a woman all the time. If that's the case, does the character then become a woman or is she still trans?

>>25814

There was a GL that aged her body to be legal age for Hal to have sex with.

That said, any form of shape-shifting would basically take the whole transsexual swing on things out of the picture, as they'd just become a woman.

>>25798

No. This is me.

>>25812

And the band-wagon dies

My own personal feelings:

1. If we can't decide on whether or not to have a male to female or female to male hero, let's do both! Never said there couldn't be one hero or so.

2. Super is fine with me too.

3. Modern USA it is, although the USA is pretty big. I'm personally tired of New York, so I'd rather have somewhere else.

4. I'm just thinking things along the lines of details that make the people like the character. It's a bit trite to write a series about a transsexual and just focus on that. It's like homosexuals who focus only on their homosexuality.

5, 6, & 7 can be discussed later

You know, an important thing will probably be the age of the character. It would have the biggest impact on how the setting interacts with the character.

>>25816
> That said, any form of shape-shifting would basically take the whole transsexual swing on things out of the picture, as they'd just become a woman.

But if you ask a transsexual/transgendered woman if they're a woman, wouldn't they tell you they were a woman? I thought that was the point of trans-people, they're working toward physically being what they mentally fell they are.

>>25818

I'm a fan of Chicago

1. Male to Female. I wish FTMs had enough mainstream recognition to make a comic like this, but we're on shaky ground with it already. Also, a FTM could be interpreted as a girl who wants to be as powerful as a man--a sort of anti-girl power message. I don't see it that way, but I think it could be interpreted that way. A MTF has the implication of "giving up" a god-given advantage (maleness) in western society for something "weaker"--our character would hopefully proving that this is not a weakness at all.

2. I'm up for either super powers or vigilantism. Vigilante is interesting to me because it draws the story more into the "real world"--the character must deal with those constraints in both her "professional" and personal life. Superhero is just plain fun and accessible (unless we go for grimdark...please no), and probably also has some interesting aspects that I haven't given enough time to think about!

3. Time and Setting? A little but in the past would interest me. 80's or 90's. But the present will also do. I would like to go for America. Should it be in a made up city or based on a real city? (Or not even a city? Why are superheros in cities all the time?)

4. What makes the character compelling other than their transsexualism? Whatever makes other characters compelling other than their super powers, I'm sure we'll all arrive at discussing this soon.

>>25820
Chicago is good.

Age wise, I'd think somewhere along the lines of late high school or early college. If we make them too old, it may be unbelievable that they've went this long without changing. If we make them too young it makes things silly/creepy.

>>25823
Unless they are post-op and have been trans for a few years.

>>25824

Going post-op takes a lot of money, just saying.

>>25821
> (Or not even a city? Why are superheros in cities all the time?)

Here we go: A hero without a city. A traveling transsexual hero who happens to go from city to city without any one in particular. Age wise they are out of Highschool and are about 19-20 years old.

They can have a power AND be a vigilante. It doesn't have to be a dramatic or all encompassing power. I'm thinking along the lines of an X-Men style for powers.

>>25826

Well, if they're a wandering superhero, we lack a lot of the public reaction that you get from a city that has been saved time and time again by the same person.

>>25825
If only vigilante heroes could also be billionaires. Hmm.

>>25828

Wouldn't that be drawing too much comparison to the already tapped genre of Billionaire Crime Fighter?

Hero is traveling in order to save up money for their surgery? Could be a twist on things, they're not really a hero per se, just a nice person who needs cash.

>>25826
Huh, could work. She could be traveling at first because she got kicked out by her parents, and later just never got the wandering bug out of herself once she got used to it. Her wanderlust could coincide with her not knowing what she wants in her life yet--not being able to settle on 'here' or 'there'. Er somethin.

And I think a simple X-Men type power would be the way to go. Something like Kitty Pryde.

>>25802

I'd like to keep it all natural, with as little surgery as possible. I think the best way to get across the message of the whole story is to show that the whole thing can be done naturally. This also avoids any and all difficulties with the whole transplant thing. I think that would be just as ridiculous as, oh lets say...having a superhero who has HIV.

>>25832

A "natural" super-hero story. Uh-huh. I'm out.

>>25830

Hahah, I like this. "I saved your butt, so, um...m-may I please have $5? It's for an operation..."

If I had to choose a power, I'd choose the generic trio of flight, strength, bulletproof, plus a defining power that separates her from the others.

>>25833
He means natural as in the person doesn't go under the knife a dozen times. It opens up too many plot holes.

>>25831
>And I think a simple X-Men type power would be the way to go. Something like Kitty Pryde.

Problem with the X-Men's powers are they're one trick pony's. They work in groups or in a team, which is why each of them having only 1 or 2 very specific powers work.

>>25838
Hm, good point.

Does our character's universe have lots of superheroes? Because if not, then I think a simple power would work--she's the only one who can do these things. Several more heroes would mean she's have to team up (could be interesting as she travels to different cities), or just have more OUTRAEGOUS powers.

>>25839

Just my opinion, I'd think adding in 'teams' would over complicate the comic. As things go on, more characters could be added, but starting off relatively simply would be key.

Hm, I think it died already.

I'm still willing to work with anyone who wants to take a swing at it.

>>25842
Guy who keeps making lists here, I'm still interested in this.

>>25843

"Guy who makes lists" Should be your name

I'm still interested, but +4 does move more slowly than 4chan. I'll be checking this out over time.

>>25833
>Disagree with something
>Walk out right away

Anyway, we have some good ideas being tossed around. I think we've decided on a modern era story.

We're sorta in flux about what we want for a setting... I'm still in favor of Chicago, since I don't think many comic books take place there.

I would kind of like to see the story like this:

The Gist: College-Age Transsexual wanders across the US, doing heroics here and there in order to extort money for their surgery. He/she is gifted with a strange power, and the villains and monsters faced are similarly endowed. It's not a traditional superhero story where people are running around in costumes, instead it's a bit more subdued and on the "outside" of things. Generally the events in the story occur in places outside the mainstream.

The Hero: A Transsexual, of course, but also a normal human being. Her/his parents did not accept their child being Transsexual, forcing her/him to become independent and finance their surgery on their own. Aside from their sexuality, we need to add details to flesh out the character so it's not a one-sided gimmick. In general, they are a behind-the-scenes hero and something

The Setting: The story could start in the 90's, it's always nice to write a story with some idea of how the future is going to play out. Eventually it could get to the 00's, but not for a while. The hero does travel from city to city, but does spend a good while in each city before moving on.


Things to flesh out for the hero:

1. Their name
2. Age
3. Ethnicity (Personally I vote... Asian)
4. Power

As for the powers in the series, I'm still going with the X-Men route. Although the powers in the series can be considered one trick ponies, if a simple enough power is given that could work in any situation, then that should be avoided. DC-style heroes are larger than life and are a bit more well-rounded, which the hero could eventually become like after learning more fighting abilties.

>Transsexual wanders across the US, doing heroics here and there in order to extort money for their surgery.

That just feels wrong.

>>25849
In a humorous way. You know, like after the day is saved they want a little for themselves.

Of course since the hero is a nice person they generally give away the money they saved up every once in a while.

>DC-style heroes are larger than life and are a bit more well-rounded, which the hero could eventually become like after learning more fighting abilties.

I've always disliked the X-Men, personally and I've liked DC more than Marvel, except for Spider-Man. A hero shouldn't develop new powers as the series goes on. Different application for the same powers, sure, but not brand new ones.

>>25851

Still feels wrong. Did Spider-Man charge to buy MJ her ring? Superheroes shouldn't charge for their services, even if its after the fact.

I think the story should stay in a single city, with the person either going to school or working a job, or both. Transsexuals have to deal with school and work, as well as their personal lives.

Also, I really think that they should go up to the point of the operation, but not going through with it.

>>25852
Hence the need for a seemingly simple power. I'll use a Japanese example from a manga called JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

There's a character who can control weather. Yeah, he's just like Storm and can summon lightning and all that, but eventually he is able to alter the atmosphere in such a way to cause sunlight to create hallucinations and subliminal messages in the minds of his opponents. He can fill a room with lethal amounts of oxygen and suffocate his opponents, as well as call upon the more unusual side of weather, like frogs falling from the sky.

>>25853
See
>>25834

The person doesn't have to be a super hero, just a person with a super power who's nice at times, but has a clear goal.

>>25854
The series can start with them traveling, but eventually they could settle down in one city.

>>25855
>The person doesn't have to be a super hero, just a person with a super power who's nice at times, but has a clear goal.

I think this was supposed to be a Super Hero comic. That's the impression I got.

>>25855
How exactly do they get across the country? Do the villains chase after them or do we have to literally do a 'villain an issue' run? Where do they sleep? Do they eat? Etc.

It opens up a lot more plot holes and is a lot you can't really relate to the situation in an already 'fringe' character.

>>25856
Well, we were kind of torn between vigilante or super hero in the beginning. By definition, a super hero is someone with super powers who saves the day. Our hero is unorthodox, and could very well be an unorthodox superhero.

No need to beat the broken track. If we're going to try something different with the hero, we should try something different in other places too.

>I'll use a Japanese example from a manga called JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
>Manga

Urrrrgh.

>>25858

Because people should be able to relate to the character on a few levels. Making them a transsexual already alienates them, putting them further out of the norm further ostracizes them.

I'd like to know whether you guys are seeing this as an ongoing story, or something that is going to have a clear ending. I vote clear ending; since we're just some rag-tag anons working on this, it would be easy to abandon. With an end goal we'll at least have gone a certain distance with it if it does get abandoned, or maybe actually have the motivation to reach the end. Also, it's easier to work out a plot outline.

>>25862

I say ongoing with various plot arcs that we could use as goals. So that we can continue should we finish a plot arc, not limiting ourselves.

>>25862

I'd say on going, if only because I'd like the see the character live and grow past a singular story.

>>25862

Eh, I'm sorta okay with either, but an ongoing would be awesome if we could pull it off.

Really, I'd really like a cape comic with this setting. Set in a city, where the hero has to deal with balancing their real life, their superhero life and their sexuality. Something traditional, with a little twist.

Allowing them to stay in a singular city could allow us to build up and develop a group of rogues that actually mean something and have repeated, significant impacts on the hero.

I thought Superwoman would've joined in by now. Huh

I'm interested in helping, if you'll have me. I know I'm not the most popular person on /co/.

>>25869

I have no idea who you are.

>>25866

Alright, so...Fictional "Metropoville" city? Fictional small town?

Or fictional Chicago/NY/LA/etc.?

>>25872

Well, I've said my choice is Chicago, since it seems like nothing happens there in comics.

And Chicago deep dish pizza. Mmmmm

I think it needs to be a larger city either way.
Maybe San Fran or somewhere medium-sized like that?

>>25874
>San Fran

Gay stereotype.

Remember to try and bump the original /co/ thread to get more support.

http://boards.4chan.org/co/res/16809948

Hm, any ideas for powers? Like I said, I'm always a fan of the big 3 (strength, flight, bulletproof), plus a 4th to distinguish the character. Though I'd have to think what the forth, unique power would be.

>>25878
She can spontaneously make men like the cock.

>>25879

>>25874
Personally, I'm in favor of Miami.

In terms of what gender the character is transitioning to, I would have to say M2F. It is a lot more common for guys to want to be girls instead, for a start and I would say it would be harder on the M2F than the F2M when it comes to starting a new life? I mean, they are giving up that advantage as one said, plus a lot of shit can happen with friends, family, strangers, etc...but again, M2F is more common so that will explain why,

Of course, you do not want to make it a BIG part of the characters reason for existing - just a part of their character. I would say that if this were to ger scripted, then the character should be covered from an early age, then maybe a more adult age, to see how the character has progressed in the world as a TS heroine.

If at early age, I think a fake breasts would be the best start - I do not know how the character would like to present themselves, as it depends on how the character feels about themselves. At the adult phase she can have implants and whatever else she desires.

In regards to how she gets them with bulletproof skin or what-not, you can give her a side-kick of sorts that has knowledge in adapting ones physical make-up. Far-fetched, maybe - but at least she has someone to be personal with, at least.

Location? I would say America as well...I do not know how you guys handle the TS/TG crowd - though being America it sounds intriguing.

The characteristics depends on how you want to mold a character...I would say give her a personality that can get with anyone she meets...though somewhat aloof. Plus give her something she enjoys that is part of her hero act.

Why she wants to be a hero - something to think about. Maybe she always had something special about her, but she did not wish to employ it into her life due to something happening at her youth? Then later on something happens which triggers her to use her ability once more. I do not know, just throwing out ideas. Someone giving her the courage to effectively live her life would not be a bad place to start.

Powers...really have to think about this. Not too strong though - something that gives her a massive edge in battle but at the same time she is still fairlly vulnerable. I think it would make for more interesting encounters.

Antagonist - male or female?

As for time...I would say 90's working into around present time.

I think the most interesting thing about the character would be how she interacts with others. Is she a looker? Do people doubt what they see? Obviously, many a TG/TS individual would love to look like a pretty girl/woman, but this is not usually the case for some. Though you get some people who transition not caring much if they pass at social standards or not (like myself).

>>25883

Hey, nice to you see

Posting from my iPhone and PS3 because, you know, laptop being an ass.

Ethnicity...need to think about this one.

>>25883

Well, it depends on their age, but their civilian life would be hell. Do they work or go to school?

I think a young adult, just starting to transition and working his/her way through it over the story would work best.

As for what would drive them to super heroism, you have a few options. Responsibility, thrill seeking, tragedy or irritation.

>>25885

I'd honestly just stay Caucasian.

As for her villains, I'd say a healthy rogue's gallery containing both male and females.

>>25887

Caucasian with Red hair.

>>25888
I wonder where that idea came from...

>>25889

I swear, it wasn't from the OP pic.

Was watching Doctor Who

>>25887

I am also led to assume that one of her rogues would know her 'secret'?

Speaking of red hair - would our heroine be one to completely change her look for heroic activities, rather than just be as she is but in a different attire?

I would be drawing stuff but I cannot for a little while (for those who do not know, I am one of those drawfag things (shameless plug = http://izanamitrap.wordpress.com ).

>>25882

Any reason why?

>>25892

Depends, again. I'd say if they were in the middle of transitioning, they'd have short hair and have to wear a wig until it grows out to the length she wants. Then have her keep it long while crime fighting, pinning it up for civilian life.

>>25893
Miami is one of the cities I know that has it's share of strangeness, but can still be shocked by things. It has a varied and diverse population. And it isn't used too much in stories, like New York or LA.

Plus, I fucking love palm trees.

>>25892

Great art too. Would you be willing to do the concept art?

>>25895

The one thing I dislike in places like Miami, Texas, etc, is that they have no winter.

And I love winter scenes in comics.

>>25897
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. Giant poof hats and scarves are quite adorable.
But, everyone has there own tastes and mine fall in the warmer climates.

>>25898

Was more referring to the snow capped buildings, but scarves and poofy hats are nice too.

Also, issue of weatherproofing your superhero outfit, ala Spectacular Spiderman.

Well, if this helps, I've been tooling around with a superhero myself. Generally, he draws kinetic energy in and fires them out of his hands. He has a force field, like how green lanterns have.

He can't fly, at least at the start, instead having to fire bolts out of his hands to do extended jumps, which then progress to being able to fire a stream of energy out of his hands to act like a rocket, then finally, when the powers are fully developed, he can use his hands and feel to maneuver around.

Could be something to think about for this hero's powers. Allows for flight (eventually), strength, resistant protection and offensive firepower.

Any more suggestions?

>>25896

Do not see why not.

Powers, I need Powers of Spider- wait, no. Still, I need ideas for powers.

Anyone still here?

>>25911
Lurking. I am intrigued by this project, being trans myself. Excited to see where it will go.

I think the comic should take place while she's in her late teens and early twenties, and cover her school/work experiences, and I'm really liking the suggestion of Miami.

But I do think childhood ought to be covered a bit, and I, too, enjoy winter scenes. Which means we're going to need a lot of flashbacks to her childhood in...Nevada? Wisconsin? British Columbia (Damn, what brought her all the way to Florida)?

As for her race/appearance...Caucasian redhead is adorable, but I'm always for creating hispanic characters. So if we're in need of a hispanic (specifically Mexican, but if it's in Miami I guess not!) character, even as a minor char, I can provide some reference on Spanish dialogue and hispanic (primarily mexican-american) culture :)

Also, awesome art, drawfriend!

>>25913

I actually have an idea for a villain who I always imaged was of Mexican (or similar) decent. I knew this welder in high school, could do amazing stuff that nobody else could and he was Hispanic. CAme up with a pyro based villain off him.

>>25912

Well, contributions are always appreciated.

>>25915

Haha, neat. Got a name?

>>25918

Not really. I designed him and was planning on working on a name later.

>>25919
Well, there's Hefesto (Hephaestus) or Vulcano (Vulcan), the physically lame greek/roman god of blacksmiths/metallurgy/fire. Terrible names, but at least it gets the ball rolling...

>>25920

While those are good names, they may not make sense if the character is of Hispanic roots.

>>25920

What about Pyrite?

>>25915

To expand, I've done a few sketches of him. Generally, I like for villains to evolve slightly over time, getting better gear and whatnot. For a starter I've got most what I want, except I ended up drawing several variations for a mask, all of which I'm conflicted about choosing one over the other.

WAIT, WHAT?
A TRANSSEXUAL SUPERHERO??

HOW CAN THIS BE?

>>25945

Well, what sort've powers will she have? Because then we can figure out the costume, how they got the powers and stuff like that.

>>25848
1. Name: Mariam Westwood.
2. Age: 25.
3. Ethnicity: Caucasian.
4. Power : Illusionism.

The last detail adds a nice, ironic touch to the character.

>>25953
>Illusion

Wouldn't she just be able to use the power to make herself look female to everyone around her?

>>25954

Well, most superheroes tend to have a stable of enhanced strength, either granted by their own body or an outside source (see Green Lantern Ring). As well, most heroes require a source of locomotion, be it flight, superspeed or something unique, like Spider-Man's web slinging.

You also have access to generic powers, like freezing, fire, electricity, elasticity, energy bolts/manipulation, size control.

>>25953

Well, personally, I've been a fan of the name "Robin"/"Robyn", but that might draw comparisons to the Batman character.

Also, as stated above, my preferred powers are flight, strength, durability, plus a unique. The unique power escapes me right now though.

>>25954
Hate to sound cliche, but, that doesn't make the illusion for his/herself any more real. There's a difference between projecting an image that other people are comfortable with and being the image that you're comfortable with. I feel like the coming-of-age element is integral to the story, and a lot of that has to do with being comfortable in your own skin.

Also, I know the point's been past already, but I'm in favor of the character being a different ethnicity. Asian works fairly well because Asian parents are generally quite conservative. Not saying that Caucasian parents aren't, but there's just this...thing with Asian parents. I dunno. I'm also just saying this because I think an Asian kid with red hair would be cute.

>>25957
>Asian
>Red Hair

Dare I say I haven't seen this before in my life.

>>25957

I don't think there is any standalone hero that uses Illusion as their power. The ability is, by nature, either unbelievably overpowered or so underpowered that it's reduced to a support ability.

Also, aren't most Illusionists magic based?

1. Name: G-L-O-R-I-A (...I'm imagining a girl who likes rock music)
2. Age: 23 (So she's in the middle of college)
3. Ethnicity: Caucasian
4. Power: Along with strength, flight (or how bout teleportation?), bulletproof, etc.; I'm thinking stuff along the lines of psychokinesis, telepathy, or clairvoyance. That gets us away from battles that are purely physical.

>>25960

If they have the ability to move things with their mind, wouldn't flight be more logical than teleportation?

>I'm also just saying this because I think an Asian kid with red hair would be cute.

...That *would* be cute.

>>25960
>That gets us away from battles that are purely physical.

Aw, but physical fights are fuckawesome. Main reason I read Batman/Hulk/Spideman

>>25958
Not naturally, of course. Still, it could dictate some stuff about his/her character.

Uh. UHhhhh I dunno. This is basically the first image that popped to mind when /co/ mentioned a coming-of-age TS superhero. Clearly, a lot of things have to be hammered out before a legit design can be proposed.

>>25961

Yeah. But I didn't mean to say she should have that entire group of mental powers...Unless you guys will it.

>>25964

I vote for 'cute redhead asian' to be the superhero's Max/Alfred/Paco. The techie/friend who knows learns their identity after a while.

>>25966
That's an even better idea! But now, back to the main character.

...I got nothing. MtF? Average kid? Suburban upbringing or a city slicker? Fights for justice, or to get money for surgery?

>>25965

I think that telepathy/psychokinesis is a trait that could be introduced to a villain, which puts a mostly physical hero at a disadvantage.

I think some sort of energy blast could be fun, seeing as they're fun to draw and at least offers some sort of offensive ability that wouldn't seem overly powerful.

>>25967

General consensus is that its MTF. Somewhat average. Late highschool/early college years, so around the 18/19/20/21 age.

Personally, I like the idea of them just fighting for a reason that has nothing to do with their transsexualism. The character's civilian life would be focused enough on that, we don't need their superhero life to be filled with that too.

>>25900

Self plug for this.

Powers: Absorbs Kinetic energy, usually from the ground as the earth has kinetic energy of its own. Energy bolts, protective aura, super strength, durability.

Possible forms of movement: Propels into extended jumps with hand blasts. Uses hand beams like engines on a rocket. Uses hands and feet beams to maneuver for true flight. Or there could be a level of evolution from one to another.

Weaknesses: Aura has weakness against crushing force. Shield grows weaker for the longer something is in contact with it, meaning spearing/slashes can be deadly. Separated from the ground weakens all the powers considerably unless preemptively charged.

Personally, I see a B-lister hero who does the occasional freelance for an A-list team since he and one of the old A-lister go way back

>>25972

Don't knock B-Listers. Booster Gold and Blue Beetle were/are B-Listers, but are awesome.

short-ranged Air\gasses manipulation!
can use it for small gusts of wind strong enough to give problems to normal humans and modify the trajectory of small calibre bullets, though not much.

also, once fine-tuned, make illusions\mirages altering the refraction of light. And, of course, altering the rato of the different gasses composing the air.

it can start as a low-key power with the character getting better and better. Also, the level of control goes along with self-confidance\esteem\whatever?

>>25974
>Air manipulation
>illusions\mirages

Light and weather do not work this way. I swear, if you got this from a Manga....

I liked Sam Guthrie's powers, maybe our heroine could have those?

also, searching for "red headed asian" on google produces porn, and as parents are currently in the room, I'm not gonna view them.

She could be half asian, and half something else, which allows for the red hair. Additionally, her parents could be extremely conservative, which caused her to leave home and begin traveling. Discovers her powers while going through puberty, which added to her increasing identity crisis (do I want to remain a male or become a female?) causes her to rebel against her rather stern and confused parents (why are you doing this? why do you want to become a girl? etc.). During high school, she begins to use her powers more and more for good rather than just whatever, until she graduates and leaves home, having some money saved up.
Using her powers (which include some form of transportation) she can save some of her money since she won't have to pay for the bus or anything. Eventually she finds herself in a new area (Miami, Chicago, Austin, some other city) which is plagued by a random rogues gallery of villains and no hero of any kind to stop them. Using her powers, she stops one of the villains, and the people instantly take a liking to this new person who came from nowhere to save them. Realizing she can't just leave them, our hero decides to stay and hopefully fix the city.

It's probably a bit cliche, but I was thinking her main enemy could be a super-racist neo-nazi skinhead or something that hates our hero because 1) he/she's part asian; 2) wants to go from male to female; and 3) is now rallying the city to defend themselves against these villains. I haven't decided upon a powerset for him, yet, though

>>25976
Well, if it is set somewhere in the south, a crazy ultra-pro God supervillain would be a possibility.
Hates her and tries to destroy her because she is a sin.

Plus then, I could read it in the "Well, I may not be a big city lawyer" accent voice. And I would enjoy that.

Advantage: drawn. I better not see manly looking traps.


Obstacle: Introducing character without making it awkward. Try to make it more of an off-handed comment than a LOL MC IS A TRAP.

>>25977
I myself was born and raised in the south, and while I do like the winter scenes in comics, us southerners don't get much love. Whenever I write my own hero stories, a lot of them take place in different southern cities, usually around Texas (where I was raised)

>>25953
>The last detail adds a nice, ironic touch to the character.
Am I alone in seeing the potential for character exploration this presents? It practically does the writer's work for him.

>>25980

That's not a good thing.

>>25976

While there are some good points, I think that villains have more impact when they're created, no matter how indirectly, through the hero's actions.

Having the villains exist before the hero arrives robs them of a lot of their power, in terms of storytelling.

>>25981
I disagree. This is basically a one-shot story idea, so if you're going to give the protagonist a power, it might as well be something that helps explore the character.

>>25976 See >>25971

Instead of the character creating their own force, they steal kinetic energy and use it to propel them into the air.

>>25983

Who says this is a one shot. Treating this as a one shot story pretty much ruins any chance of continuing it after the arc is done.

Treat it as an ongoing, with various arcs that act like checkpoints.

>>25982
neo-nazi before gains powers after an accident the hero inadvertently causes. reason 4) i wouldn't be this way if it weren't for you!

(later we could do a story that reveals that the accident wasn't the hero's fault at all)

>>25985
>Who says this is a one shot.
Two things say it's a one-shot:

1) The concept itself. Once you've done the character exploration (character is a transsexual superhero in a world much like our own, facing many of the same prejudices, etc., etc.), what you got? A generic superhero story. Unless you plan to string out the character exploration across an unknown number of issues. Which brings us to...

2) The average lifespan of a /co/-related project says this won't last beyond a one-shot, and that's assuming even the first story gets done (which is unlikely in itself).

I'm just saying, think small before you think big.

>>25986
>Neo-Nazi

... Seriously? Villains should be people you at least relate to on some level, even feel genuine pity for at some times.

Making them a Neo-Nazi just makes them a scumbag.

>>25988
I don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of "relating" to the villains. they're bad guys, I don't want to feel empathy for them. i want to see this asshole get his face punched in by our hero

>>25987

1. The idea was to have the character go through the gradual process of transition. Over the comic, then use public reaction. Also, there isn't anything wrong with the comic taking on the usual superhero pattern after a while. This isn't supposed to focus just on her transsexualism.

2. This was brought up earlier in the thread. Making it a one shot would make it difficult to start up after the fact. Thinking small before big is great, but only if it won't kill any hope the project can continue.

>>25989

You can want that without the person being a completely irredeemable asshole. Look at The Flash's rogues.

While I'm not up for the whole 'misunderstood supervillain' thing, I'd like for them to have some actual depth.

What I'm seeing is a relatively normal superhero story. our hero just happens to want to change genders. Where'd that transgendered person go? i'd like to know more about how life is for you, so we can flesh out this character more and make them seem legitimate rather than just someone created by a group of random people

http://boards.4chan.org/co/res/16835755

Keep the /co/ thread bumped guys. I'm going to IM2 right now, I'll see what's posted when I get back. Great ideas so far.

>>25991
good point. it was just an idea, so I'm fine with going with a better idea.

Well, seeing as people do not mind an asian sidekick...

Another sketch-up - and personally, I love turtleneck tops.

...and a potential rogue profile sketch?

>>25995
>>25996
>>25997
imokaywiththis.jpg

>>25998
seconded

And I'm back. God, I like that movie.

Anyway, wonderful concepts, Superwoman. So, looking over the thread I though >>25971 looked good, if not a little over thought. Wondercraft's idea about a 'Cannonball'-esque power and way of movement would be nice too.

So, what about a superhero who can drain kinetic energy and charge herself with it. Would allow her to fire herself like a cannon ball, could allow for flight, superstrength, energy shields or beams, durability, all that good stuff. I guess like a reverse Gambit, instead of creating kinetic energy, she takes it.

Any thoughts? Yay? Nay?

Is Superwoman up for suggestions on costumes and characters?

Well, it is something to do, so I guess so!

How are you going to get around the Death Sentence? Are you going to pull a "Batman" and have them all declared insane?

>>26002

I don't mind it.

I had a villain idea, the one I mentioned above. But there is an awful lot I've sketched myself. And I'm nowhere near as good as Superwoman.

>>26002
works. kinetic based hero. Could she charge herself up with her own kinetic energy? sort of like a human dynamo? like, she's running down the street, and gains energy accordingly

>>26004

Well, I guess we need to figure out her power, name, theme before we actually come up with a costume for our hero.

>>26008

Well, we might need to limit it a bit, but I don't see why not. Then again, do we make it she would run out of power?

We could make it so that she only absorbs through her hands and feet, but that may complicate it a bit.

What about the energy shield/aura bit? Energy blasts? What sort of weaknesses would she have?

If she can charge through her own kinetic energy, then her protective aura would work best whilst she is in motion. I do like the idea of it though - like her using her own kinetic energy to gain some speed then getting a further boost of speed when coupled with absorbed energy from another moving object.

Will she be able to store enegry into another form so she can use manually? An emergency generator so to speak for when she is in a dire position.

I do not know if she has high endurance? Maybe she cannot charge so well when fatigued, ill, severely injured or whatever.

In any case, got to go to bed now, work in the afternoon.

>>26011

I'd say that the shield is somewhat passive at all times and she has to draw energy from a singular source to charge herself. Because if she draws kinetic energy passively, then anything that hits her, be it bullets, blunt force, punches, would only make her stronger.

Technically, she could touch the ground and drain some energy from the earth rotating.

I say that she passively draws upon a constant source of kinetic energy, either from her own movement or the earth, to keep her shield active subconsciously.

Her battery is depleted by using her superstrength and energy beams/flight.

A neat idea is that she can siphon off energy of, say, a speeding train to slow it down, blasting off energy so that she doesn't overload herself.

That way her weakness would be if she was separated from the ground, her battery would run lower and lower until she could actively siphon energy again.

The poster who originally suggested this said something about crushing and stabbing would be dangerous, which makes sense. Crushing and stabbing would apply constant contact with the shield, putting more stress on it compared to a split second that a bullet comes into contact with her.

I like the idea of her being Hispanic

Here's something I whipped up.

>>26020

The further away you go from the norm, the less believable it'd be that somebody wouldn't figure out who she is.

Caucasian hero would be at least harder to figure out than a minority superhero.

>>26020

But... then we have no delicious redhead. Irish Catholic redhead > all.

>>26021
This.

Otherwise you get Kate Kane.

>>26024

Isn't Batwoman white though?

>>26021
Unless she lives in a town/city that is all white I don't see how her being Hispanic will have any effect.

>>26026
You're dealing with two minorities though. Trans and Hispanic.

>>26025
She's a Jewish Gothic lesbian. Which, while I'm sure they exist, kinda dilutes the focus rather than adding anything significant to the mix.

>>26027
This.

Generally, keeping it to one minority at a time works best. Once you start mixing it up, it starts to widen the gap somebody has to cross to relate to the character. I certainly am not against Hispanic characters in any sense, however I think we should keep it to a Caucasian superhero to simplify things.

Now though, we have the hero's powers sort of lined up. At least we have what branch of superpower we're dealing with. This allows us to build on the hero's superhero identity.

So, with that in mind, lets start coming up with superhero names. See >>25971 , >>26002 for the rough outline of the powers.

What we'll need to decide on too is the character's real name. But to do that we have to decide on a few things like, for instance, their heritage, if they're going to be already transitioned or if we're going to follow them as they transition, etc.

>>26031
(What we have so far- Redhead Caucasian MTF transsexual superhero with kinetic based powers)

Let's start with her parents, then.
Are they conservative?
Are they (one of) the reason(s) our heroine left home?
Do they know about their child's powers? (As a side, are there ANY other supers running around? If so, how do the parents feel about these supers, villains and heroes alike? Is it like the Marvel U where mutants are hated, or more like the DCU where 'metahumans' are generally few, but well accepted as heroes? Or does our story take place in it's own universe, separate from past and present comics?)
Are they lower/middle/upper class?
Are the religious in any way?
What kind of careers do they have?

that's all i can think of for now. as for names of our hero/ine, I personally really like the names Eric and Sonya. Do we want her name to be rather normal and average, or something that will stand out a bit to others? For a superhero name, my mind keeps coming back to the lame "Kinetica"

pic kinda related

>>26032
>Are they conservative?
Suppose that'd depend. If we're going to Irish Catholic route, yes, they probably would be.
>Are they (one of) the reason(s) our heroine left home?
Perhaps they didn't kick her out, but I'd imagine if they were conservative, that things would be strained. If we're going with the 'follow as she transitions' route, it may be likely they don't know.

>Do they know about their child's powers? (As a side, are there ANY other supers running around? If so, how do the parents feel about these supers, villains and heroes alike? Is it like the Marvel U where mutants are hated, or more like the DCU where 'metahumans' are generally few, but well accepted as heroes? Or does our story take place in it's own universe, separate from past and present comics?)
Personally, I think that they wouldn't know. And, due to my own taste, I prefer DC's way of handling superheroes compared to Marvel's. I think having it like DC, where its generally accepted that heroes exist and they're an every day sort of thing, but they're rare enough to have an impact.

>Are they lower/middle/upper class?
I think most of the country is middle class. This would depend on which city they lived in though.

>Are the religious in any way?
If they're of Irish decent, its very likely they are.

>What kind of careers do they have?
In the broad strokes, I don't think this matters int he planning stage.


As for names, I've always been a fan of the duality or gender neutral names. Ones that could switch rather simply, like Eric to Erica. Max, etc. Robin/Robyn.

>>26033
Alexander/Alexandra? That's a good Irish name, a bit common, but not excruciatingly so.

Also, i think our hero should have a scholarship to a college not close to home, thus explaining the move. Unless we're going for the wandering hero idea?

>>26034

Generally, the 'moving around' scenario crops up too many plot holes. So far we've had suggestions for Chicago and Miami.

Back again. Thinking of making a /co/ post, asking for opinions on the various cities. I'd like 5 to present to the masses and hear their thoughts on it.

So far we have:

-Chicago
-Miami

Three more. No New York or LA. Should be a fairly large, well known, iconic US city.

I cannot really help so much about character background, considering I try and keep things simple most of the time. Designs and anything past the idea phase I can help with, as I will more than likely have a better idea of what I want to do or need to say.

>>26051
in Dallas, we get southern AND it's far enough north to get some snow

Posted /co/ thread to get some input.

http://boards.4chan.org/co/res/16879762

So far, lots of people suggesting Chicago and Detroit.

Others being mentioned are Boston, Pittsburgh and Baltimore

>>26064
Detroit is pretty run down

>>26065
Is that good or bad?

>>26065
>>26066

Yeah, not sure if that's a good quality or a bad one. If its too big a shit hole, it may get too grim and gritty.

All this discussion about where the story should take place is making me think that it would be an interesting idea to take the exact same superhero concept and drop it into different cities and see how that would change things.

polite sage for unrelated.

While we're waiting for the thoughts from /co/ to finish streaming in, why don't we discuss the superhero's name?

So far we got:
-Kinetica

>>26071

Why not a more gender neutral name?

>>26073

It depends, again, on if we decide on if the character has already transitioned or if we're going to follow them through it.

If its the latter, then a gender neutral name would work -or- they'd have to change their name from a masculine to a feminine.

Looks like Chicago is the winner.

So, what we have so far is:

Powers: Able to drain kinetic energy, leading to strength, protective aura, energy blasts, possibly flight but definitely capable of launching herself like a rocket.
Race: Caucasian, possibly redhead.
Location: Chicago, Illinois

I suppose we could try and work on a costume while we figure out the name, though a name may help focus the costume a bit.

>>26075
I vote for the real name Alex (Alexander/Alexandra).

Also, I can't participate in any /co/ threads

>>26077

Banned?

>>26078
sadly. all because of some pricks using proxy sites back in January

:(

OK. So Caucasian redhead. Here's another crack at it.

She will need a helmet or a mask to cover her hair. Ignore the ones I whipped up.

>>26087
our transgendered hero/ine is lookin kinda sexy there. I like the short-haired look better, as well as that helmet. I wish i could draw, or I'd contribute some art, but I'll settle with being a writefag

Why does she need a helmet again? Lots of heroes don't use things that cover their hair. Also looks very spaceage to me.

I think the costume should be more streamlined, as I would think that there would be some emphasis on speed with the whole kinetic angle. Maybe gloves and boots as she may be running, taking large leaps and using her hands for attacks and protective techniques.

Also, padding for inevitable crashes.

I would even have her hair up like this as you will get a better looking character if the hair goes down during a fight or something :p

>>26089
in case she crashes. Also to help hide her identity. it doesn't have to be a helmet specifically, but when you're flying through the air and sending blasts of kinetic energy from your body, a domino mask just doesn't seem like it would be sufficient.

>>26090
I was thinking she would go gloveless and her boots would be rather thin so that she can actively draw power from various sources.

>>26090
also, i agree with the streamlined look.

>>26090

Why not have her have short hair at the start of the series and grow it out? She can wear a wig with her superhero costume.

Now, also, in terms of costume masks are usually the big defining characteristic. There are four kinds of masks I've noticed in comics (5 if we include mechanical, like Ironman):

-Full Face, which covers the mouth but not the eyes in some cases. Covers the head and hair. Examples are Spider-Man, Green Goblin, Zemo, etc.

-Cowl, which covers the hair, neck and nose. Leaves the mouth and eyes exposed. Examples are, of course, Batman, but also Bullseye, Hawkeye and Wolverine.

-Domino. Covers the nose, part of the cheeks. Can be modified to cover more. Examples: Hal/Kyle GLs, Green Arrow, Robin.

-Converted Cowl. A cross between a domino and a cowl, which covers the eyes, cheeks, nose and possibly brow. Leaves hair, mouth and eyes exposed. Examples: Batwoman, Ultimate Hawkeye.

Also, for something to think about for the costume is the color of the energy she uses. If she has an aura, will it constantly be around her when fighting crime? My vote is for orange, which is a rather underused 'aura' color and it'd look really good in contrast to the blue sky or water. This is, of course, if we're going to use color, but its still best to think of it if we're not.

>>26093
>She can wear a wig with her superhero costume.
How about have her wear a wig when not in costume?

>>26094

Either would work, except would it not be better from a character development standpoint to have her grow out her hair over the story as she transitions?

>>26093
What about just like a face mask? Something with goggles on it. It's not common, and I can't think of anybody from the comics with a similar mask, except maybe Cobra Commander from the Rise of Cobra film (before the end when he donned that other mask). It covers the face, let's the hair flow freely, has goggles for added wind resistance and possibly even a gas mask for if she needs to go into toxic environments.

Pic is basic design- gas mask with attached goggles

>>26095
which is why she wears a wig as a civilian. As a hero, we see the wig come off and her flame red hair come out and as the story and our character evolve and grow, so does her hair.

>>26096
what the mask looks like worn (cyberpunk version, but whatever)

I am a fan of the converted cowl - or more specifically, Batwoman's version. I would most likely go for a Ms Marvel looking one though.

Also, I have been thinking and sketching at work - but I have been thinking of a rogue. Might end up usingvthe template for myself as well...

...basically, a character that shares our heroines power, but suffers from depression - she always undermines her efforts too, even if she is successful. Incidentally, her power set is amplified by the grief and disappointment she thrusts upon herself. She does not do this purposely however, as she has been like this since a young age.

I have not given her a name yet, though her known name is Masochist.

>>26098

Well, we'd have to figure out how our hero got the powers in the first place.

I was thinking an accident while testing a new source of public power based purely on kinetic energy that went horribly wrong.

I also had an idea then about a villain which used the technology, fine tuned it, miniaturized it and used it to have powers similar to the hero's. Sort of like technology verses what the hero can do naturally.

>>26098

Isn't Miss Marvel's mask a domino?

Speaking of Miss Marvel, this picture of Moonstone always struck me as awesome.

What about the mask being like what it and the shadows here make? One that goes around her eyes and up her forehead.

>>26098
>...basically, a character that shares our heroines power, but suffers from depression - she always undermines her efforts too, even if she is successful. Incidentally, her power set is amplified by the grief and disappointment she thrusts upon herself. She does not do this purposely however, as she has been like this since a young age.
>Masochist.

Bleedball?

Getting ideas for her name from /co/.

-Kinetica
-Motion
-Momentia
-Push (though the character exists in the Marvel univserse)

>>26102

More or less, though thus character has kinetic power plus the ability to amplify abilities and possibly objects through masochism...so if this character were to lose the ability to absorb kinetic energy, she will still have unrivaled strength in other places.

>>26104

Why not split the characters? Make one be our hero's Bizarro or Doctor Zoom and make the other "Masochist"?

>>26103

Motion's simple and got a nice feel to it.

>>26103

Adding to the list.

-Kinetica
-Motion
-Push (existing character)
-Momentia
-Inertia (already exists, Impulse character)
-Blastwave
-Go Girl (Already exists but seems pretty obscure)
-Momentum

Looks like that's all the suggestions. Anyone like any of those?

>>26096
>>26097

My fire based villain actually was designed to have a respirator and welding goggles set into a metal facemask, almost like an old vintage goalie mask.

Question for Superwoman, if I post up a handful of sketches, would you be interested in putting them together and/or improving on them?

>>26104

Could do, but I see this as a progression for the character. Her main ability is amplification through masochism but the ability she mainly shows is her sub-ability to absorb kinetic energy. Eventually she could lose her sub-ability during a fight or something, then come back with her main ability stronger than before or be outfitted with technology from a 'mysterious benefactor'.

Sure, we got to have some one-shot rogues, but maybe one or two 'rival' rogues would not go a-miss (hell, if this project does not actually take off but we have characters established, I would still love to handle them, depending on how they turn out).

>>26110

Sure.

>>26111

Generally, I couldn't decide if I wanted him to wear something akin to riot gear or a cobbled together set of torso armor.

I wanted him to feel home build, as if he spent months welding and making this gear for himself out of whatever he could find.

Arm mounted flame throwers, a mask much like a goalie's. Generally keeps thermite grenades and flares on his belt. Napalm-gel firing gun as a sidearm.

And yes, my art blows.

>>26004
>Small hands
>Girl-hips
>Girl-jaw

So essentially we're just making another female superhero.

>>26118

Who said that was the hero? Could've been a random sketch.

>>26118

...nope, my brain has failed to tell me what exactly I have done wrong. That jaw can be found on males, I always draw hands like that (and males do not all have massive hands) and implying that MTFs cannot have a feminine figure with HRT and surgery is well...ignorant.

If you want me to design a MTF that looks more like a man than a woman, I can do that if you want.

>>26120

Don't bother, you're doing fine as is. He's probably one of the new people who came here from the thread on /co/

Indeed.

I will get to the fire-based villain when I have ample time to sit down and draw lots of stuff...I am on my days off work after today, so fingers crossed.

I still cannot get my masochistic character out of my head. I keep thinking that she would eventually find out about the heroines background and rather than be all 'wat' and all that, she would be more intrigued about the her, but not in a negative light (though she would still want to beat her ass down for whatever reason).

I take it was are going for Alexander/ra then - Alex for short? I like that name...comes complete with a sense of nobility. For her friend, would a name of a similar background be good?

>>26122

We'll wait a little bit before working on her friend. But yeah, I like Alex.

So. What we have now is:

Name: Alexandra/Alexander
Hero Name: Kinetica, Motion, Momenta, Blastwave
Powers: Absorption and Manipulation of Kinetic Energy
City: Chicago, Illinois

So, we need to figure out a costume, if we're going to follow Alex through the transition or if the comic takes place after the fact, Alex's last name.

Also still need to agree on what kinetic energy's color is. I still vote for orange.

Oh, right.

If we're still going with a red headed Irish girl, I can look up some Irish surnames.

>>26124
Moore- majestic
Hughes- fire
Flynn- bright red
Hayes- fire
there's a crapton of others. this is the site I used http://www.irishsurnames.com/gaelicmeaning.htm

and I've got another hero name to add to the list- Shockwave

I like the hero-name "Momentum". It's gender-neutral so is kinda fitting for a transgender character.

>>26127

Isn't that more to do with sound than energy?

>>26123

I saw Inertia up there. I vote for either that or Motion.

>>26129
a shockwave is a shockwave
whether such a wave is created by a burst of sound, concussive force, or kinetic energy does not matter. The wave still shocks

>>26132

>>26132

Shockwave is a DC villain name. I think he's one of Booster Gold's rogues.

>>26127

Alex Flynn has a nice ring to it. I like it.

>>26135
the great bright red one? (alexander/dra meaning great, of course) We should make her aura shades of red and orange. like fire.

>>26136

See >>26123

Red seems a tad too much like a villain's color with its surrounding them. An orange glow, similar to the GL ring glow, would look really nice against blue backdrops.

>>26137
good idea/bad idea- her aura starts off red, because she's still a he and still confused and as our story progresses, the aura changes to a lighter, softer colour (orange)?

>>26138

I say save the red aura for a villain, like the one somebody suggested above who shares her power.

>>26139
iamfinewiththatalso.jpg

I feel that some of us lose sight of the fact that this is a story about change, not just your normal standard hero tale. It's more than just "oh, red head girl saves the day" it's "a kid goes through some major changes, and as they grow, so does their outlook on life, their status as a hero, and the whole world around them." it's a bit more than a coming of age story.

>>26141

I'd disagree. The character goes through a lot, but when you think of it, Peter Parker, Clark Kent, all those blokes had to go through things too. The story is about change but it is also a superhero story and, as such, should follow the model of a super hero story.

>>26143
my apologies, as i wasn't as clear as I thought I was.

I agree with you as well. It is a basic hero story as any other, but still, we can do more with it than just a "basic hero story." Our (can I call Alex "ours" since she is a brain child of /co/'s? or does she still belong to the old OP?) hero is changing in more ways than other heroes. Also, it seems a couple people have forgotten that "she" is not exactly a she. Eventually, it will be as such, but not at the beginning. idk, if I'm just blowin farts out of my ass, let me know and I'll stfu

>>26144

Well, more or less, things should happen. But, again, the point of a superhero comic is to have that duality between the two lives.

Also, I think most people want the transgender thing to stay out of the main limelight. We still need to consider the fact that she/he has a life outside of superheroing and outside her sexuality.

Pretty sure you're gonna laugh at me and call me a fag, but...Wwwwow. IRL Transsexual. Hiya. I'm kinda...I have no idea how to feel. Would any of you mind if I kind of wall of texted at you about this, or would that be me being an oversensitive dramaqueen?

>>26147
I actually wanted a rl transexuals opinion on this as seen here >>25992
(seems my opinions have changed somewhat.... i blame rl for that)

But, so long as you give us constructive criticism and don't bash us outright from the beginning, wall of text is fine by me.

Here's an Andrew Loomis typical female body drawing I edited so anyone can design a costume.
>>26147
It would be nice to have some insight.

>>26148
I'm actually about to go to sleep, so here are two freebies.

First off, the idea that she's superheroing to pay for her surgery in ANY way? No. Full stop. Do not pass go. Do not collect two-hundred dorra.

Second...Just to make sure we're all on the same page, I'm gonna go over the whole transition process for MTFs so that, y'know, we all understand it. I'm not calling you guys stupid, I just want to make sure we all get it. After a couple years of therapy with a psychologist or psychiatrist that knows his or her shit on gender stuff, you get to go to an endocrinologist, which is a hormone doctor. They check your blood levels and stuff, then give you hormone meds. They're either pills, needles, or skin patches, they do two things.

The first one they give you, an anti-androgen, turns off your body's natural testosterone supply. The other one is just estrogen, girl hormone. What these two do is make the skin softer and clearer, messes with the sex drive, makes you pee a lot (no, seriously), makes it harder to build muscle, maeks facial and body hair get lighter and thinner (doesn't get RID of it, unfortunately), redistributes fat so you get DAT ASS, DOZE TITS, etc. Basically it does everything a girl going through puberty gets, including breasts. They don't always fully develop, which is why lots of transgirls opt for surgery. What it DOESN'T do is get rid of body/facial hair entirely or change your voice. For the voice, you just have to practice a lot, no two ways about it. For the hair, you get electrolysis (which jams an electrified needle into each individual hair folicle to kill it) or laser (which does the same thing with a FUCKING LASER). Both are very painful. Shaving is possible if you don't have the money for it, but some girls get this gross shadowstache thing where you can still see where the hair grows on your face.

I'll explain why this is relevant in my next post.

Almost forgot, SRS (Sexual Reassignment Surgery) isn't something everyone does. The results are kind of hit and miss, and it requires lots of upkeep. I don't want to speak in generalizations, but usually you only go for surgery if you can afford it and don't give a shit what you pee out of, or if any masculinity is so disgusting that even if you had the body of Power Girl a penis would be unacceptable. This does NOT apply to everyone, of course.

Anyway...If I were a superhero, I'd make my mask cover my lower face to eliminate the shadowstache problem, so there's that. The voice could be something she practices on, and at first she barely talks at all because she still sounds like a dude, maybe, or she has some kind of vocoder or something, I don't fucking know.

The walking the earth thing...I'm not sure if that's plausible. Hormones are kind of a bitch to handle, and you need regular checkups to make sure your endocrine system isn't going haywire. I'd put her in one place for the entire thing. I like Miami, personally, but that's just me.

As for how she'd look, most transgirls opt for a sort of androgynous getup from day one, even if they're in boymode. Pic related is me, as a dude, to give you an idea of what it's like. I'd suggest maybe she stuffs her costume over implants, if only because automatically saying she opted for cosmetic surgery from day one could be a teeeeensy bit offensive.

I could show this around if you like and try to get some feedback from other transfaggots and such, if you want.

Either way, I gots to go to bed. Night guys! Sorry if I'm being stupid or anything!

SHIT SORRY ALMOST FORGOT

Being transgendered isn't a binary yes-or-no thing, there's kind of a whole spectrum to this. Some folks are happy just staying in their birth sex and acting a little feminine, some just want to be a woman/man, end of story, and some are so repulsed by the idea of being their birth sex that they would rather kill themselves than stay that way. It's a whole thing.

And, as a funny side-note that I am NOT making up, there is a noted, studied correlation between being transgendered and autism-spectrum stuff like Aspergers. Seriously.

NOW I'm goin' to bed.

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>>26151
awesome. we got some insight so we can make this more realistic and not "herp derp, let's turn skinny asian boy into sexy woman". yue, when you wake up and read this, would you mind sticking around as a writefag/drawfag/consultantfag?
otherwise, i'm gonna shut my trap and let this thread run it's course for a bit, cause I've had a bad week, and it's currently 4:30am and I don't want to be hhld accountable for fucking shit up

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>>26152

For the most part, I know this from the get go.

To me, if we follow her transition, we'd do a mix of logical and plot related changes over time.

The "shadowstache" isn't a major concern, as it would/could be removed from the equation for relatively little money.

Using prosthetic cups at the start, then opting for implants later in the story is an option. Hormones are an easy subject, seeing as they are varied in delivery and can be easily have been started before the series starts.

As for the surgery, I figured that she wouldn't get it. Not only is it unbelievable that somebody going to school or/and working a job would be able to save up enough money to pay for it. I also understand that many don't take it because of the serious complications that the surgery can have.

And while most are androgynous there are -many- who have a good response to the hormones and look as female as some girls do. This is especially true if the character was somewhat androgynous as a male.

>>26153
While I basically started the project and contribute heavily, I realize that this isn't just my thoughts and opinions.

I feel my job is to direct the flow of info and generally work on making decisions when there are far too many options/paths.


Also, Superwoman is a MTF transsexual.

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Breast implants run about six thousand dollars. Hair removal about five hundred for the chin, lip and chest. Hormones, I think, run about a hundred dollars for a month's supply.

Total cost for a year of hormones and then two procedures is approximately seven to eight thousand dollars.