IRC: #bluhbluh @ espernetLast thread: >>88932If you need help with the IRC, feel free to ask (somebody else)....Did I do it right? I hope I did!
Well the last thread wasn't completely of the first page but other than that it's fine.
gonna make a pic of meat hand caressing that last thread"I LOVE YOU HOMESTUCK THREAD 46"
we usually wait till AFTER the thread goes off the page to make a new one.
>>89940>>89942I'M SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW D:>>89941I would like that. The thread could maybe say, Draw more meathand?
>>89941Godspeed
>>89946Alternate version.
>>89946>>89947magnificentit's magnificent
>>89946>>89947That's it. Meathand is done. Nothing will top this. Even if we drew Godhead Pickle Inspector fondly regarding it, or had Gamzee riding it like a mechanical bull making his HONK face. It has achieved critical mass.
>>89946>>89947Oh, meat hand. You're the gift that just keeps giving creepily cupping things in its palm.
>>89946>>89947oh god the filenames
So I watched the "Clubs Deuce's Homework" video for the first time and now I can't stop :3ing.
New comic is really just an excuse to have my favorite troll hating on my disfavorite.Also, if you don't recognize the silly parody in the last panel: http://www.google.com/images?um=1&q=archangel+michael+defeating+satan&biw=1195&bih=633
So in one episode of The Venture Brothers, Dean says he looks like Rufio after Hank tries to make him attractive to girls.So I made this.
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>>89959oh finally now we can all make creepy shit!so this is how our no-updates madness will plague us
>>89959Naked hornless troll is just as creepy as meat hand itself.
>>89962It doesn't have fangs, either, so it's like a naked alien baby.Babies are some sort of horrible mythical creature that grow inside females, by the way.
>>89962Yeah, that's pretty creepy.Man for some reason I want to keep talking about this mod and forum culture thing if that is cool. One of the things is, uhh....the original mod and admin set, they weren't planning or expecting a massive forum suddenly treating the place as fandom central. Figuring out how to run the damn place and what kind of an environment they want now that it's so much goddamn bigger, that's been an organic process I guess? It's kind of a shame that cracktastic stuff like that Muppets Jigsaw thing can't be done anymore, but the demographics of the forum have changed such that it'd probably be received rather differently, too.I mean, +4 ain't a damn thing like the other forums, but they've got pretty different userbases, outside us crossover folks. So it's got different administrative needs.Also, uh, mods don't have guidelines. We might be getting some, but we just got promoted, told to trust our judgement, and have at ye! If it looks schizophrenic, it's because Lexxy, Metalbourne, and I have all got hella different styles of doin' shit. Consensus and policy kinda gets formed after-the-fact in the sekrit modmin talky clubhouse.And, yeah, bitchwhore was pre-Forapocalypse, pre-new mods. Sure as hell can bet I'll wade into that kind of shitstorm next time it happens now that I've got the authority to straighten folks out and shut 'em up. Just so long as I notice it's happening.
>>89966I don't mean to be rude but what are you going on about, if you don't mind explaining.
>>89966>Sure as hell can bet I'll wade into that kind of shitstorm next time it happens now that I've got the authority to straighten folks out and shut 'em up. Good, now i can stop being MAD about it>it's because Lexxy, Metalbourne, and I have all got hella different styles of doin' shit.I'm not sure this is an effective form of moderation, imo. There should be some sort of (solid, instead of vague) across the board rules and regulations otherwise moderating is inconsistent and spotty at best.
what is "bitchwhore"(is it a special name for vriska)
>>89970Pretty much. When it was revealed that Vriska crippled Tavros, the forum's main chat was whipped into this disturbing frenzy that culminated with someone making a flashing .gif that said "IRREDEEMABLE BITCH WHORE".While the first two terms are whatever, whore is a really gendered, weighted and sexual term to use with a 13 year old girl. When a handful of people were like "uhhh, what" the forums went apeshit and repeatedly tried to defend their internet rights to call a child a slut.It was weird.
>I'm not sure this is an effective form of moderation, imo. There should be some sort of (solid, instead of vague) across the board rules and regulations otherwise moderating is inconsistent and spotty at best.We were each selected for the position with a different particular forum and its needs in mind, as I understand it. I, personally, would agree with you that codification and consistency will benefit the forum. Am working to see that this sort of thing happen, in fact.
>>89971Oh, forums. The place where sexualizing a child is a huge no-no... unless you're doing it to be mean rather than arousing. Because that's totally okay.
>>89971It was damned weird. But when I finally went back and read the whole thing, it more and more came off as lots of people just...hm. The misogyny of people that don't know any better 'cause they've never taken a class or read a book or what-have-you on gender studies. Like trying to explain to someone that racism is still a problem that doesn't get it. At least, that was the impression I got of the hold-outs.
>>89974Except when you tried to explain why it was sexist, they just called you a whiner and spammed pictures of horses instead of going "oh well sorry I won't call little girls whores anymore".>>89973haw>>89972Cool! that could help a lot.Also I'm pretty sure the bitchwhore thing was a big reason a lot of the SA posters came over to forums to do whatever it is they're doing and consider the boards really shitty. It was just an ugly event that was handled really badly.
Except when you tried to explain why it was sexist, they just called you a whiner and spammed pictures of horses instead of going "oh well sorry I won't call little girls whores anymore". Oh-So-Witty image responses are a serious pet peeve of mine. It's a good thing people have comparatively laid off on dealwithit.gif. It's just a larger, more elaborate smiley to dismiss with.>Also I'm pretty sure the bitchwhore thing was a big reason a lot of the SA posters came over to forums to do whatever it is they're doing and consider the boards really shitty. It was just an ugly event that was handled really badly.It was certainly when they first established a reputation and came under my personal ire. And it probably was a final frosting rose on the cake of MSPA needing a dedicated mod. But, man, with no fandom secrets thread, no fan-art thread, and less bad goon presence, the damn place is so easy to keep an eye on these days.
>whore is a really gendered, weighted and sexual term to use with a 13 year old girland using it in conjunction with vriska is staggeringly insulting to innocent whores who have never killed or crippled anyone
All these things are why I've steered clear of the forums, and why I'm grateful to those folks who repost fan art harvested there. Especially SkepticArcher's stuff, because she hardly posts any of it to her dA account. I think I'm a generally mild poster, but it sounds like even I'd be walking on eggshells over there, and I don't fancy that.Naturally that means I wasn't there for the bitchwhore debacle, but it sounds like a hilarious mess. I mean, she just crippled one of the most lovable characters, and had yet to have any redeeming light cast on her. I can understand calling her whatever foul name might come to mind. On the other hand, people should at least be mature enough to listen-to and process why certain things might be offensive. It sounds like a clash of political correctness and epic immaturity.Unless I've completely misinterpreted what was transpiring, because as I said I wasn't there.Also, this is one of the greatest faces ever, and Katie is wonderful.
you can't call this completely abhorrent character this bad word cause shes a girl waaahif vriska were a dude people's already strained sympathy would dry up faster than piss in the desertespecially if she were stalking and torturing a sweet widdle she-tavrosbut white knights gonna white knight
>>89977dis my favorite post
>>89946>>89947Since I'm the OP of that thread, that really creeps me up.But also, it's hiarious.
>>89981meathand_iloveyoumesais.png
>>89979If Vriska were a dude she'd be drawn as badass and glittery, probably with her dick in Karkat's ass to boot.see also: Eridan
>>89983The part with Karkat has been done anyway.
>>89983the worst things eridan ever did essentially boil down to aiding and abetting vriskadude is chump change
>>89982*shudder*
>Also I'm pretty sure the bitchwhore thing was a big reason a lot of the SA posters came over to forums to do whatever it is they're doing and consider the boards really shitty. I thought that the folks who were shitposting were 3-sided-die, Varinn and some other guys that were already there and joined the turdwagon. But I'm probably wrong since I didn't bother following it. Can someone give me more insight on what happened?>Except when you tried to explain why it was sexist, they just called you a whiner and spammed pictures of horses instead of going "oh well sorry I won't call little girls whores anymore". I guess it's all context, but I'm not surprised it was considered inadequate there. I mean, just because people use "faggot" or "cunt" all the time in here or regular 4chan as meaningless words to convey impact of offense, it doesn't mean that it should be regarded as ok in other communities, that's dumb. I know that sometimes the lines are blurry and people get away with terms without being called on it in forums like these, but the guidelines are pretty explicit about what goes and what doesn't, and even if it isn't explicitly told the whole culture of it says it should be kept sanitized. Hell, I've seen a guy get reprimanded by other people for using the term "trap" in a discussion about transsexual issues, of course the whole "whore" thing would be addressed.It's really no surprise the staff frowned upon it.also whats the deal with these bigheaded fags here why are they playing with blocks.
>>89987perhaps they are tidying up
>>89987>Can someone give me more insight on what happened? I wish I could but the most I could point you is the serious business thread we got kicked to that no one actually reads.http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?26392-Serious-Business-Thread-For-Serious-Business&p=3887627&viewfull=1#post3887627The biggest thing was I really just didn't get why people couldn't be, you know, nice. I mean, even on plus4 homestuck threads we had only one major fight and it's because I was being a shithead and people called me out on it, I apologized and changed my behavior to keep from being a jerk.I think this incident may have been part of the more draconian mindset of the moderating team also but that is pure speculation. It seems live every other post they're threatening to infract someone or infracting someone or someone is getting jailed.One guy on the pokemon thread got jailed for posting that picture of James in the bikini. Which was a screencap from an actually episode that aired. For kids.
>>89966>It's kind of a shame that cracktastic stuff like that Muppets Jigsaw thing can't be done anymore, but the demographics of the forum have changed such that it'd probably be received rather differently, too.So the new fanbase is affecting how deep Andrew is willing to go for the story? That's a real shame. A fandom is the reaction to a body of work, not the other way around. I realize Andrew takes fan cues that he finds interesting and incorporates it, but that's not what I mean. Censorship for censorship's sake is never a good thing, and there's a reason fans flock to something in the first place.Anyway I don't see what's so weird about that part anyway, at least compared to what we're used to seeing already.
>>89989Delegating a shit storm to its own thread in an entirely different part of a forum is more effective than outright banning, because this way nobody is going to give a shit about the discussion after it's done. Oldest trick in the forum moderation book and government regulations in general if you want to get broader about it.
>>89989This is why the only forum I post on is Plus4. Because at least when the mods here are fags, I have their IMs, and can have real-time, grown-up conversations about what went on (or in Anonex's case, just real-time).I'm sorry Anonex I love you you giant fagCrap like this is why I left my favorite RP server on NWN.
>>89991>So the new fanbase is affecting how deep Andrew is willing to go for the story?Just to be clear, the "Muppet Saw Comic" thing isn't in reference to the comic from the story but a thread on the forums where the comic originated from. Andrew has reiterated several times that Homestuck is HIS story and he's going to tell it regardless of his fanbase.
http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?30473-MILESTONE!-Pesterchum-2.0I got pesterchum working again! so anyone who wants to download the client and add cannabisAstronaut so we can have some conversations :V
Yeah, watching Andrew argue with the people that come in and make ridiculous whining claims that might include complaints about too long pesterlogs that they skip and then how confusing the comic, well...yeah. It's clear he doesn't kowtow.But, uh, huh. I forgot to say something earlier. Anybody that's a cross-community member here and at MSPAforums, feel free to send me PMs, report posts, etc, about any kind of asshattery or other mod stuff. Feedback is how I do a better job.The draconian-ness, I think, is because there are a few people that are really a pain to ride herd on. I'd love to get rid of Varinn and ThreeSidedDie, but I have to wait until they screw up badly enough again.
>>89989Fucking hell, I wish I'd seen that when it was going on. I never really thought I'd refer to Varinn as an upstanding dude, but here I am. Props to him. And you, obvs, Bea.whole lotta willful ignoring of the whole, you know, SEXUAL CONNOTATIONS OF THE WORD WHORE in there. cunt if fucking awful too but at least it doesn't have any promiscuous connotation that just... doesn't fucking apply./all srs bizness up in here sorry
>>90001> I'd love to get rid of Varinn and ThreeSidedDie, but I have to wait until they screw up badly enough again.Heh, forget it. Aren't they goons or something? They know how to keep their laconic gibe under limits just to get a rise out of the forumites. I think Varinn only slipped once. It's kinda funny their soap opera with Fix It Jones, though. So silly.
DAT PADDLESAW
>>90001Varinn and co. are cool, and he gets pretty insightful when there's nothing to dick over about. Every community needs a thorn or two to stoke a good passionate fire.
>>90004haha damn just whirl that around and watch the heads go flying.duct tape though? could've just regular alchemized it.
>>90007I think it's a Dead Rising reference.
>>90007It's a weapon from Dead Rising.We discussed this in IRC or someone's stream a day or two ago! One of our very own anons did this and he's a talented oen to boot (:
>>90004Anon, I am proud.
>>90003Indeed, they've made that pretty clear.>>90006That he can be an okay dude sometimes and not a shitstirring or a massive ego is part of what makes it tricky and annoying.
>>90004someone draw Fef using the BOOMSTICK
>>90012This is a thing I will do.
>>90013Wait I thought you were on the art team?
>>90013maybe include her shooting a zombie troll she hoisted up in the air? this is my fetish.
>>90013>>90012That would look so BAD ASS.GLUB GLUB
>>90015I can draw Fef obliterating zombies with a shotgun taped (??) to a pitchfork if I WANT TOyes I am though
Trying to actually do the daily horoscope prompt thing I suggested last thread.VIRGO 9/5Okay, this new academic or athletic challenge is harder than pretty much anything you’ve ever experienced before. Don’t let it discourage you but don’t brag about mastering it before you actually have it down pat.
What is going on with official forum fanart thread.WHY
>>90024We were talking about that.At...at least people here are drawing cool things!Like >>90023
>>90024Trollsonas, trollsonas everywhere. Because for some reason you're allowed to post it there instead of the actual thread for this sort of stuff.
>>90026I don't know why they just do a separate trollsonas thread instead of saturating the fanart thread.
>>90027They have one.
If they're gonna post their troll at least post actual fanart to balance things out. Right now it's just circle jerking to an nth degree.>>90023This is adorable. I love you.
>>90004THATS SUCH AN AMAZING PICTUREWHOEVER COULD HAVE COME UP WITH SUCH AN IDEA?
>>90026Couple weeks ago when I checked through the fanart threads, I think the rules were that you could put art of your trollsona in the fanart thread, but all the fluff and the herpderping had to go in the other thread.
>>90027SO irritating because there is a fantroll slum where they can do whatever they want. But somehow it's okay to spam the fanart thread with your self-indulgence, but SO UNCOOL when you do it in the appropriate place. It's like people who think playing D&D isn't completely nerdy as long as you don't play it in the basement.
Art Forums mod has a trollsona, guess she's biased in favor of them?I bet if the trollslum thread wasn't filled with silly old roleplay it'd get more crosspost. People want their stuff in the fan-art thread, where others will see it.
whelp it seems like the MSPA community has hit stage four of fan-tardnessgood thing i left at stage two
>>90004Dead Rising 2 is about a man trying to get medication for his daughter so she doesn't turn into a zombie....DROOG AND KANAYAMY DREAM FROM >>89715ALL THE D: IN THE WORLD
>>90036;_;
>>90028>>90032WHATGODDAMIT
Violins aren't rock enough?Violins aren't rock enough?Violins are rock as fuck.
>>90036OH SHI-;A;
Man, fuck fantrolls. Except maybe ones that wear N7 hoodies. Anyway, if they had to make original character do not steals, you know what they should do? Lusii. Half of them would be wolfdragons and shit but at least it'd be more interesting.
>>90045we are exilesDUH
>>90046>we are exilesyeahmuch like bolin
>>90045And Katie's fantroll is nice too.In fact there are very few cool fantrolls around, but most of them are MEH.
>>90045>Except maybe ones that wear N7 hoodiesAww yeah
>>90043You fuckin said it
>>90050I now require a virtuosa Rose rocking her violin so hard the strings catch fire.
Found on the forums.
>>90054but his head is tiny
>>90012DoneSorry its in MS paint, everything else doesn't want to work but>>90004was also originally made in ms, I just put on a fancy filter to soften it. Also, I was thinking about having Nepeta with either a drill bucket or a beer hat. I'm working on it now.Man... the more thought I put into these the more I want a HS game.
>84 posts>13 imagesyo guys i just got my best friend into homestuck and i'm trying to show her the best fanarts and the best threadscan youcan you help me out
>>90057Just go to the last thread, man. That was THE BEST.
>>90056YES i am happy.maybe next a pic of feferi and kanaya being ZOMBIE MURDER SQUAD with their new weapons? =3
>>90057Can you wait until tomorrow? I gotta sleep, but I'll dump the best stuff I have after I wake up.
>>90059but how do I explain meathand
>>90063Say that it represents the trolls finding God in the moment of their imminent destruction.
>>90056I like the hard edges in this one! These are p. cool.>>90063You don't NEED to explain meathand. It speaks for itself
>>90056HELLFUCKINGYESAwesome.And thanks for the comments on dA, if I'm right.
>>90060I'll work on it tomorrow.If I don't post here then it most likely will end up on my da account one way or another.http://plegathon.deviantart.com/BUT WHILE YOU WAIT ENJOY THIS AWESOME BOSS BATTLE MUSIChttp://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch?v=l-I4WnLUwfU>>90066Yeah it's me
whoa