>>75222
Yeah, but Supes doesn't leave small defenseless kids to give those messages.

>>75211
You have a decent point. I think JMS assumed that Superman would be able to hear anything that happened to the kid, and that the fire would attract the authorities anyway-the message could have been as much to the fire and police departments as it was to the gang.

I don't think it came across well when in context with the rest of the story, which seems to be a lot of Superman brushing people off. I can see what JMS was trying to do here, but I do not think he achieved what he set out to do.

Metropolis losing a lot of its City of Tomorrow flare is my biggest disappointment, really. You can tell street level stories in a sci-fi city, and it made it a hell of a lot easier to give Superman problems every day.

If we're all being more concise with our criticisms of this issue:

It seems like JMS has forgotten that Superman, long ago, learned that he can't be everywhere at once, and though it still bothers him, one woman making a ridiculous argument shouldn't be enough to shake his beliefs so much.

Given that he pretty much sacrificed the last remnants of his people, to save the Earth, she's making a pretty shallow argument, obviously out of grief.

"No, Superman! You shouldn't be out there fighting aliens and Gods, and shit that's about to rip the world asunder, you should have been down here, curing my husbands tumor, my husband who you didn't know about, because you were saving everyone else! You didn't even know about his tumor, you bastard!"

Superman, being Superman, shouldn't have said "Oh no, you're right, I've been such a fool!", but maybe more along the lines of "I'm not God, I can't save everyone, and I'm sorry I couldn't help your husband." or something to that effect, and that really should have been it.

And, I don't know, his idea of reconnecting with humanity is, what, walking around and being kind of an asshole? Sure, he helped a couple people out, I guess, in between using his powers to be a prick.

"Don't believe I can still fly? Bam, taking you into the fucking stratosphere, so you can shit your pants, tubby."

"Hey, you're a bunch of drug-dealing scumbags who have apparently never really heard about me. It makes sense that this nice little white-people town would suddenly be overrun by ethnic gangsters who sell drugs. I'm going to start a few fires, no matter how dangerous that could potentially be."

"Hey kid, when those Drug dealers come back, all pissed off because I set their shit on fire, tell them I'll be back. I won't be around, of course. So just tell them by yourself. You're like, six, right? Yeah, you'll be okay."

Also, he didn't have to actually cut the spot light cable. He could have told them to turn it off, or flew down and unplugged it. But I guess Superman is beyond the point where he cares about property damage. Fuck it, the city will pay for it.

The whole Ledge scene didn't seem that great either, if only that it's been done a few times withing the past five years or so, and I'm kind of sick of seeing Superman convincing people not to kill themselves.

Now a lot of what Superman says in the comic, about life, about saving the world, they're good arguments. They just sound odd coming from Superman.

I don't know, I feel like if he wanted to reconnect with humanity, he already has a better venue for that in Clark Kent.

>>75346
>If we're all being more concise with our criticisms of this issue:
I'm just gonna stick with "It was boring". Maybe it'll get better, but I don't think I'm sticking around for that.

>Superman discovers that there is a darkness even more immense than outer space: the darkness of the human heart turned against itself.

Oh boy.

>>75602
Didn't this very issue do that? Not even a recent storyarc THIS EXACT ISSUE dealt with "the human heart turned upon itself."

>Fan: "Superman's always been considered the ultimate immigrant. What's going to happen when he steps foot in Arizona?" JMS: "I actually do deal with this." After consulting with Idelson if the walk takes him to Arizona, JMS said, "I could have some fun with this."

How can he type the script when his hands are so clearly hams?

>>76483

Dammit don't be dragging him in to some political nonsense I GET ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT FROM MARVEL!!!!

>>76483
JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST.

It just keeps on getting worse.

You know what? I think that when writers use the “real world” gimmick by having superheroes go on the Jay Leno show or talk about the Obama administration, they’re limiting themselves creatively. I want them to explore how these fictitious universes are DIFFERENT from our own. I want to see alien ambassadors visit the UN. I want to see everyday technology that has been advanced by the works of supergeniuses. I want to see rich people taking vacations to places like Wakanda and Paradise Island. I don’t want to see last week’s headlines reprinted. You can still address the issues of current events without quoting them verbatim.

I find it very unlikely that anyone will do this, though.

>>76492
Forgot my name. Stupid proxy site.

>>76483
It takes a lot for another person's actions to embarrass me, especially if I don't even know them. But I feel embarrassed about this storyline, and I haven't even read it yet.

>>76483
DURR HURR HURR I AM WRI-TOR I AM WRI-TYNG COM-ICKS.

>>76483

Oh, christ.

I mean, yeah, Superman probably would be opposed to the Arizona immigration law but for fuck's sake that's no good excuse to turn his comic into a tract against it.

Awww...now I feel bad. I really enjoyed Superman #701.

Well, look on the bright side

ALL-STAR SUPERMAN ANIMATED MOVIE

>>77131
I KNOW :D

>>77131

WHAT?!

>>77141
http://www.collider.com/2010/07/24/comic-con-batman-under-the-red-hood-panel-batman-year-one-all-star-superman/
>However, here is one to knock you off your chair: All Star Superman, the beloved storyline by Grant Morrison with artist Frank Quitely, will also be made into an animated film

>>77143

Clark and Lex in prison bit will be awesome

>>77145
:D

>>77143
I can't even imagine what the character designs would be like. Do you think they'd go for Quietly's style or something bolder like the past few DC Animated movies?

>>77348
Frank Q style or bust.

>>77348
You ever see Quitely's notes? They have a very animated feel to them.

>>76785
You are a bad person and you should feel bad for forming opinions of your own. Seriously, don't worry about it.

>>77355
Where could a fella find those notes?

>>77143
This is FANTASTIC news.

>>77143

Someone hold me, please. I may weep from joy.

>>77143
Everything is great in the world!

>>74031
Oh wait...

>>77377

Eh. It's okay. I often have opinions that receive mockery. 'Tis my lot in life.

The thing is with Quitely's art is that it's already so full of life and movement.

THIS. WAS. FANTASTIC.

>>79978
I really thought this was going to be crappy, but DAT LAST PAGE MANG, Dat last Page, Bitch tears I was leaking heavy.

Also Jor-El has a magic "every panel is a different costume" ability.

>>79980

I'd love to see this universe pan out. Three Supermen and Lex just goes...fuck it. Be a pip to see if Kal would develop along the same lines as Clark since his father is really digging the Midwestern lifestyle.

>>79978
The best meet the neighbors story besides living next to Asgard or Wayne Manor.

>>79980
And don't forget DAT LARA.

>>80041

Wondering if he'll still become Superman at the moment. The Kents are having an influence in this world (like his mother wanted)...but will it be enough?

Also
>B
>12th level A.I.

>>80072
He'll grow up into a holier then thou superman who walks around towns and laser beams gangsters out of white suburbs. The silver age of dickery is back again.

>>80141
NO, YOU HUSH.

>>80142
Nope, Mark Millar is right. Superheroes should only be begrudging horrible douche bags or self absorbed all-powerful cunts that only exist to preach his edgy philosophy.

>>80159

oh pish, this will comes with the hopefully good ending of him donning the Red and Blue as he once again becomes part of himself. And Millar is an edgy twit.

I ended up liking this issue quite a bit. Supes was pretty douchey when he first talked to the Natallans, but I enjoyed how the issue's overall story played out.

>>82445
I really enjoyed this issue. Really, I've been enjoying JMS's run, though, only 2 issues in.

NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT.

>>82488

Now there's the man!! hoping that was just a one time flub of JMS. Here's to him keep up the good.

I was surprised to find that wasn't so bad. Perhaps there's hope for this run yet.

Yeah, aside from the complete bullshit of the first convo with the Nats, this was a MUCH MUCH better issue.

It's almost like it's by a different writer.

>>82497
No it’s too similar to be different. Someone must have threatened his pig family or something for this 180 of style to happen. Hopefully hurting him both with words and physical attacks for good measure.