Reposting here as I forgot the other was on auto-sage, and brought about by this conversation I had with Mari a couple of days ago regarding Irah's dress-sense.

<TheDaiLi> To be honest, I can't see Irah's clothing getting any more padded after her dancer outfit. Out of everyone, she'll be the one dressed to turn heads.
[2010-06-12 18:35:48] <TheDaiLi> Which often means frugally.
[2010-06-12 18:36:35] <Maritova> very true
[2010-06-12 18:36:43] <Maritova> what would be some good designs for her...
[2010-06-12 18:37:19] <TheDaiLi> Well, that more indian design we did was good for one.
[2010-06-12 18:52:30] <TheDaiLi> Other designs are harder to say. I think she'd favour clothes that kept close to her, so things made of stretchy fabric and the like.
[2010-06-12 18:53:11] <TheDaiLi> If she were around today, I'd say, if she wore a jacket, it'd be those which don't have droopy sleeves, if you know what I mean. Robes aren't her thing.
[2010-06-12 18:55:28] <TheDaiLi> I wonder, we've never really discussed her fantasies before. Such as the princess being rescued by the dashing knight or what have you.
[2010-06-12 18:56:37] <TheDaiLi> I think that she likes the idea of being a desirable objet, and making people desire her.
[2010-06-12 18:56:50] <Maritova> sounds about right yeah
[2010-06-12 18:57:40] <TheDaiLi> Perhaps she dresses and acts as such in order to finally get Hayoda to snap and make the first forceful move, after which she'd be all 'Oh I am but a helpless damsel to your onslaught, captain!'
[2010-06-12 18:57:53] <TheDaiLi> Even though she orchestrated the whole thing.
[2010-06-12 18:59:45] <TheDaiLi> As such, I must imagine that she'd be quite a fan of roleplay. That bit with Tseng and Jing with the barbarians I could see her liking too.
[2010-06-12 19:00:05] <TheDaiLi> Though probably not if pre-discussed. I doubt she is so open with her likes and dislikes.
[2010-06-12 19:00:57] <Maritova> ahaha
[2010-06-12 19:01:06] <Maritova> yeah she wouldn't feel comfortable being frank about it all
[2010-06-12 19:02:43] <TheDaiLi> I'm not sure whether she'd prefer Hayoda to guess at it and go for it or whether she'd just, one day, enact it.
[2010-06-12 19:04:58] <TheDaiLi> No pre-dicussion, just one day Hayoda walks into his bedroom and she's waiting for him on his bed in an Odalisque outfit, and says 'Ah, I see my lord has returned from his fights abroad. Shall I comfort him awhile?'
[2010-06-12 19:05:38] <TheDaiLi> 'Dance for him? Wait on him? Or perhaps serve him in...other...respects...?'
[2010-06-12 19:06:25] <Maritova> now I like that idea :D
[2010-06-12 19:06:38] <TheDaiLi> At which point the fantasy would have already ended, because Hayoda would have already jizzed his pants.
[2010-06-12 19:06:44] <Maritova> D:
[2010-06-12 19:07:02] <TheDaiLi> Sometimes, Irah is too good at this. ;)

As for villains, I recall having another conversation with Mari regarding Lee, and how he could be a main bad guy (bear with me on this one)

Basically, he wants the kids to have an adventure, a proper one, and everything that a proper adventure or quest entails, challenges, exploration, a goal, everything...including life-threatening risks and people's lives at stake. So (for sake of argument) he poisons their parents in a meeting in the Fire Nation and then tells them he has the cure, or where the cure is located, and gives them a 'quest' to either get IT, or get the items required to make it. Meanwhile he, the main villain (as he realises SOMEONE has to play the arch-villain) hires Fenghuang's gang and what remains of the Dai Li to help way-lay the kids.

Now, the Dai Li guy is doing it for the money, but also because he, new to being a leader and after alot of years of infighting, is still unsure of their place in the world and what it should be, and so is just following this easy leadership in the interim (with mounting doubts as it goes on). Fenghuang, on the otherhand, has another agenda, and though following on with Lee, he's also achieving his own, darker ends (basically making him the real threat in the background).

So...there we go. Legitimate excuse for adventure and drama, with plenty of room for other things and political manoeuvrings (like with Nikiru's dad, for instance) and so on and so forth.

Aw goddammit that's supposed to say "Gaang Junior Answers the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything in Thread 42!" :(

>>79489

It seems the title of "GJr sexpot" has been passed from Jing to Irah. (On a related note, I've always found Irah to be the most physically beautiful of the cast after Tseng.) I for one feel that Irah's new-found sexiness rounds out her character, so to speak, but it shouldn't take her over. Which is why I like Mayekoi's Season 3 design for her. Being NOT skimpy, it allows a different aspect of her personality to come out. (Besides, I don't ever recall Irah using her looks for her personal advantage, or for the advantage of the team.)

You know, ever since I saw a certain Rule 34 pic by JVC, I've associated Irah's outfit for each season with a different part of her personality. Season 1, she's the Fire Nation Princess and student at the Royal Academy, all prim and dignified. Season 2, she's the hot dancer with the looks to match, and at the same time carefree and without burden. Season 3 is the "artist" costume, where she embraces her creative outlets.

My comment on the scenario described in the pic: For some reason, I feel it's kind of a twist on the "Zuko walks in on Sokka's tent" scene played out by their children - minus the cockblocking, of course.

>At which point the fantasy would have already ended, because Hayoda would have already jizzed his pants.

Don't you mean: "JIZZED. IN. HIS PANTS."

> I feel it's kind of a twist on the "Zuko walks in on Sokka's tent" scene played out by their children

And now you've made me think of Yi Lin accidentally walking in instead.

Still, I note what you mean about the season 3 outfit. I was never personally a fan of that one to be honest, but it's something that might bear thinking about. And naturally, Irah never uses her sexiness as a weapon (other than, of course, to snare a dashing captain...or make him snare her in turn).

IGNORE ME

>>79504
B-But, it's so beautiful ;_;

>>79500
>>It seems the title of "GJr sexpot" has been passed from Jing to Irah

NEVER

>>79505

I'll see what I can do. ;)

Is that Yue art by Liesl? She seems to have hit a growth spurt, ifyaknowhatimean.

I'm going to namefag just for this story and all discussions related to it.
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The compass aboard the Blue Flame had been indicating a southward bearing for days. The Iron Sea Wolves were, at the moment, wandering somewhat aimlessly, waiting for adventure to rear its head once more.

Standing on the edge of the port bow was Princess Irah, staring off into the vast expanse of the ocean. She had been looking out for any sign of civilization, and was getting restless. The various diversionary activities in which the rest of the crew engaged under the deck of the ship were eventually becoming more of a chore.

Irah gazed around in the distance for anything that was neither water nor sky. Something, she thought, an island, some tiger-whales, a pirate invasion... She would even settle for a flock of birds. She glanced at Po for a moment, and wondered how the pangolin-otter could swim in the ocean for lengths of time without getting either tired or bored out of his mind. Okay, there's nothing exciting out here, again. My sketchpad's itching for some subjects, and all I see is a horizon. Maybe something's telling me that I should switch from landscapes to something a bit more small-scale. Yeah, I could do portraits, but the only person I can get to stand still around here is Tseng...

Irah blew a stray bang away from her face in exasperation. At that moment, something else blew it right back in front of her eyes. It was a reasonably cold breeze that one normally encountered in the Southern Ocean, but to a young lady who grew up in the hotter climes of the Fire Nation, the breeze seemed to chill her to the core. Shivering a bit, she motioned to retreat back to her quarters to don some warmer clothing, but not before asking the navigator at his post just where exactly were they headed.

At the foot of the ladder leading to the stern of the ship, the Princess called out to one of a pair of figures sitting at a table. "Hey Tseng, did it get a lot colder just now?"

Without looking away from the maps that he was surveying, Tseng replied, "Maybe a bit. Barely noticed it."

Directly behind the waterbender was his favorite girl from the Earth Kingdom. Jing turned her gaze from the boy's activites to Irah, who was clutching her arms at her sides and shivering more and more. Jing could not resist the opportunity for a snide comment. "So Miss Pampered-up Princess is afraid of a little breeze? Maybe the confines of your palace will suit you better, hmm?" Irah merely glowered at the remark, unable to think of a witty retort.

Tseng sensed the formenting uncivility and tried to diffuse it. "Now, we are in the Southern Ocean, if my readings prove correct. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before we reach the vicinity of the South Pole, so it's only going to get much colder from here."

The Captain of the ship exited the cabin to update himself on the situation, only to have the word "South Pole" reach his ears at the moment of emergence. Taking his place at Irah's side, he turned to his navigator, asking, "Excuse me... but did I hear the words 'South Pole'?"

Sighing, Tseng answered, "Yes, I said 'South Pole'." He could almost see what was coming next.

Hayoda added, "As in 'South Pole', the land of our common ancestry, home of the man to whose name I owe, Chief Hakoda of the Southern Water Tribe, known affectionately to us as 'Gramp-Gramp'?"

Before he knew it, Tseng's hand made its way to his own face. "Yes, that South Pole. Your point?" responded Tseng, even though he suspected what the point was going to be.

"If," continued Hayoda, "you would let me finish, I was about to say that the South Pole is host to many perils!" The Sea Captain turned to the bow of his ship and struck a dramatic pose. Chest out and hands at his hips, he declared out to the sea, "From jagged icebergs to torrential currents to strange polar creatures, some of them hostile, it is a prime location for adventure!" Relaxing his pose, he turned back and more calmly added, "Plus, it's been too long since we've seen Gramp-Gramp."

Tseng's expression instantly turned from exasperation to interest. "You're right," he says. "I've always wanted to see how he and the rest of the Tribe were coming along ever since we left Kyoshi."

"Then that settles it!" Hayoda burst enthusiastically. "Iron Sea Wolves, set a course for the Water Tribe in the South Pole! I'll inform the rest of the crew." With that, Hayoda departed to the cabin to inform Yue and Yi Lin, who had been chatting over nothing in particular, of their new destination.

Tseng turned to Irah, who in being captivated by Hayoda's spiel seemed to have forgotten about the cold. "Well, like I said, it's only going to get much colder from here, so I suggest getting much warmer clothing. Irah, I've packed some parkas for us in a chest in the storage cabin. If you would get those out, I'd appreciate it very much." Irah did not need to be told twice; she was already on her way to obtain more warmth.

The waterbender smiled and turned back to his love, who had been observing the scene with much amusement. "Well, Jing, I've always wanted to show you the ways of my people, so... here we go!"

Jing responded by playfully tousling his hair. "So are you gonna show me the ice or the snow first?" she teased.

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"Land ho!" yelled Yi Lin from her perch as she caught a glimpse of the southern continent in the distance. Floating down to the poop deck of the ship with some airbending, she roused the attention of the rest of the crew, all clad in typical Water Tribe parkas - save for Tseng, who opted to stay in his normal clothing.

Hayoda was the first to respond. "Great work, lookout! Helm, set a course straight for the city! Navigator, find the position of the docks! Everyone else, prepare the ship for landing!"

"Aye aye, Captain!" acknowledges Yue with a smile as she turned to guide Po on the correct path. Tseng simply carried out his order silently.

Most of the occupants of the Blue Flame, whether crew or passenger, were already outside on the poop deck in anticipation for docking. The one notable exception was Irah, who opted to stay in the warmth of the fire-lit cabin. As the ship headed towards the South Pole, the temparature had followed suit, making Irah less likely to emerge by the day. Yi Lin headed down to the common quarters, where she found Irah sitting on her bed, bundled in multiple layers. She was sitting with her knees against her chest and her arms around her legs in the typical position indicating that one is cold.

The airbender called out to her best friend, "Hey Irah! We're almost there, can you believe it?"

"Well... I couldn't tell, what with the temperature dropping and all that," Irah responded between shivers.

A somewhat disappointed Yi Lin said, "Aw, don't you want to come see the capital as we get closer? You were complaining all last week that you wanted some action, and now that we do have some action, you don't even wanna leave your room? Besides, you have to help us prepare for docking."

"It's okay... I'll do whatever I can to help down here." Irah glared at Yi Lin, making it fairly clear that she was not leaving the interior of the ship, regardless of however it could help the rest of the crew.

"Fine," finished Yi Lin with a pout. "I guess I'll get back to you when we reach the shore." She exited the quarters to finish her duties, leaving the firebender to wallow in the cold all by herself.

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At the lighthouse of the Southern Water Tribe's only port, a young watchman looks out to sea with a telescope. Pivoting the device from left to right, he scanned the horizon for incoming ships. Out of the corner of his view, he spots an animal not endemic to the region. Funny, he thinks to himself, what would a pangolin-otter be doing in these frigid waters so far from the Earth Kingdom? Shrugging it off, he spots another object closely following the creature. Examining it more closely, he determines it to be an Earth Kingdom vessel, with blue flame patterns splayed across its hull.

Turning back, he informs his superior of the incoming ship. "Sir, there's a vessel coming in from the northwest. Earth Kingdom design, but bears no flags or marks identifying it as such. Appears to be headed towards the docks. Intentions are unknown. Prognosis?"

The overseer of the lighthouse, a middle-aged man of the tribe, processes the report. "Very well. We'll hail them with standard protocol." He turned to another subordinate, who in turn would send a standard message to the incoming ship via messenger hawk. The man rolled up the form letter and tied it to the back of a storm hawk, sending it in the direction of the Blue Flame.

Even in a time of peace, one cannot be too safe. The Southern Water Tribe military, under the direction of Chief Hakoda and his right-hand man General Bato, had implemented this procedure to determine which foreign vessels were friendly, and which ones were brigands or pirates.

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In the distance past the bow of the Blue Flame, the city that is the Southern Water Tribe grew in the view. On the outset, it was certainly no sight of grandeur, especially compared to its counterpart in the north. However, considering its state merely twenty years ago, one could not help but be impressed at the way it had grown. The city walls had expanded miles beyond the borders at the end of the war, and between them stood not a smattering of huts, but an increasing number of sturdy houses built of ice. The immigration from the Northern Water Tribe proved to be a source for infinite blessings for the South, not just for the population boost, but also for the numerous waterbenders that proved instrumental in the reconstruction of the city. In time, the Southern Tribe had its own population boom, which included a new generation of waterbenders. As the city rebuilt, it earned the appelation "The White City", owing to the fine layer of snow that always dusted its surface; this was in contrast to its counterpart in the north, "The Blue City", built entirely in the interior of a glacier.

It was this sight that never failed to impress Hayoda. At his sister's side, he was gazing at the increasingly visible city with a smile on his face.

Suddenly, a bird flew towards the ship, circling twice before perching on the rail next to Yue and catching her attention. "Heya little one," she asked, "who might you be?"

Noticing the message tied to its back, her brother provided the response that the storm hawk could not. "Why, Yue, it appears to be a messenger hawk, and it's borne us a message! Could you get it for me?"

"Mmm hmm!" Yue nodded and proceeded to untie the knots binding the scroll to its carrier, but she couldn't resist petting it a bit before doing so. The hawk cooed in approval as the message was lifted off its back. Opening the scroll, she remarked, "I think it's for you, Captain" and gave it to its intended recipient.

"Let me see that..." The warrior examined the contents of the message.

To the Commander of this Vessel:

You have entered the waters under the territorial control of the Southern Water Tribe. Please identify yourself and inform us of any and all activities in which you intend to engage while in our territory. We will take action with you accordingly.

Please send your reply on this sheet to the Lighthouse via the hawk that was sent to you.

Signed,

The Southern Water Tribe Naval Security Forces

The seal of Chief Hakoda was imprinted in red ink at the end of the letter, testifying to its legitimacy.

Nodding, Hayoda took the message to the Navigator's table, at that moment unoccupied, and reached for a pen. Since the cold climate made the ink too viscous for it to be used with a brush, Hayoda opted to use a wooden stylus. Dipping the pen in the gooey ink, Hayoda began to formulate his reply.

Dear Brave Warriors of the Southern Water Tribe,

This is Captain Hayoda, Commander of the Iron Sea Wolves and of this vessel, the Blue Flame. We wish to dock and see our grandfather Chief Hakoda. We intend to have amazing adventures while in the territory of the Southern Water Tribe, and we won't allow anything or anyone to get in the way of our goal. If you can, please have Chief Hakoda receive us at the docks. Tell him that Yue, Tseng, and Yi Lin are coming too.

We are grateful to your service to our tribe.

Sincerely,

Hayoda of Kyoshi Island
Son of Sokka of the Southern Water Tribe
Grandson of Chief Hakoda
Captain of the Blue Flame
Commander of the Iron Sea Wolves

"That oughta do it!" Hayoda finished his letter with a flashy signature and more superflous titles. Returning to the helm, he handed the reply to his sister, who had been amusing herself with the hawk. "Helm, send this to the lighthouse post haste!"

"Aye aye, Captain!" Yue took the scroll from his hand and carefully tied it to the bird's back, sending it off with a few pats on the head.

Hayoda looked out into the direction that the bird flew off. "Now, we wait for a response. I guarantee we'll get through to them!"

Yue got to see her new friend once more when the lighthouse sent them clearance to dock.

>>79517

Awaiting the continuation of this fine piece. Also, Tseng is the MANLIEST OF ALL MEN.

>>79517

Nice little exposition there!

-Everyone seems to be comfortably in-character so far.
-IRAH HAET COLD could be a neat subplot to all of this (I was kinda expecting Yi Lin to pester her a wee bit when Irah's all bundled up, but that's just me)
-And on the other end of the spectrum: I think Tseng is a pretty cool guy. eh loevs cold and doesn't afraid of anything..
-I liked that cute little Jinseng moment and Jing's barb to Irah
-Hayoda's superfluous made me chuckle. Nice touch!

Keep going, BarNavi! I await your next installment!

>>79517

Leaving aside a detailed commentary for the moment (as I never know in these things how much critical appraisal people want), this does raise a point to me: Why can't Irah 'Breath of Fire'? I don't doubt that it must have been taught to her by either her dad or Iroh, as she was sure to have been in cold places before, visiting her friends or what-not. So why not use it?

Perhaps she keeps it in reserve for when she REALLY needs it? But then she seems to hate being cold an awful lot.

>>79504
>>79517

SUDDENLY, CONTENT

>>79511
JVC, I feel like I haven't told you that I love you in a good long while :) I love you, man

don't disappoint me D:

>>79524

Well, it's mainly just to push the "IRAH HAET KOLD" gag, but eventually she'll be using her firebending to keep warm anyway. It's too obvious for her not to.

I don't really think the "Breath of fire" would be particularly within her grasp, as it is probably a more advanced technique.

I'm conjecturing that Irah and Azula's ability to use blue fire comes from being more focused on yin-energy, instead of the red fire-producing yang-energy that most firebenders have. This perhaps is due to their sex, and females are supposed to have primarily yin-energy. This also might explain why lightning comes easier to them - because lightning involves producing an electrical reaction from opposite energies, females (or anyone) who is in control of their yin-energy can react it with yang energy (which is readily accessible) to produce lightning. But that's beyond the focus here.

So yeah, that's why she doesn't breathe fire yet. Or... she was just never taught this technique because it didn't seem that important. Keep in mind that she's far from being a master, and learning bending from a standardized curriculum, with supplementary instruction from her father and uncle.

>>79530

Whoa whoa whoa whoa hold the fucking phone here, where's all THIS bullshit coming from; straight from the cow-heap?

Leaving the 'Breath of Fire' that super-failure Zuko was taught mid/end season one aside, WHAT THE HELL was the rest of that which you just said?

What....I....WHAT?

>>79531

The idea of Yin and Yang as male and female energies actually is a really old part of philosophy (and sexuality) in Taoism, actually. That's actually a pretty fucking cool idea on explaining that...

The basic premise is that male energy, yang, has a limit, and you can expend it (through masturbating or homosexual intercourse, as an example.) Yin is limitless, though

Side note, it can replenish Yang energy, through getting it on and bringing a woman to orgasm, being one way. Men who expend their Yin energy were thought to have health problems and shorter lives. The general attitude was that getting more Yin energy from a woman made you healthier.

It sounds great for the girls until you realize it was used as an excuse to buy hookers instead of being better lovers. People were a little more careful when they realized that replenishing their Yin tended to also replenish STDs.

http://www.bigeye.com/sexeducation/ancientchina.html

Of course, there's more to it than sex, a lot more, but I...actually looked this up, once when thinking about what attitudes toward sex might be like in the A:tLA universe...

>>79532
Yeah man, Fushigi Yuugi taught me all this shit when I was like, 12~ When Soi would fuck Nakago to replenish his chi.

Ahh, youth.

Anyway, I think thats actually a pretty neat idea, and did we ever see any MALE blue firebenders in the series?

>>79534

No.

But we didn't see any other female ones, either.

Also, just look up Taoism in general, my knowledge is lacking a bit, and I think it shows.

Too late guys, I've knocked the table over. It went out of the window and crushed a cat.

>I'm conjecturing

I missed this though, so I might order a new one.

So, not sure if this has come up before, but how do you pronounce everyone's names? This is what I've defaulted to:

- means different syllables
something(as in example)something else('nother example) means that the sounds are together in one syllable, and I just wanted to make each sound clear


Hayoda: hah-YO(like a yo-yo) - duh
Tseng: ts(as in tsunami)ang(as in how the show pronounces Aang)
Yi Lin: YEE-lin
Irah: EYE-ruh (like Iroh in the show, but with the short "a" sound instead)
Yue: YOO-ay (as it was in the show)
Jiyi: Jee-YEE
Po: Poe (like a poe from Zelda, or the poet)

Jing: Jing(as in ping)
Nikiru: Switch between NICK-ee-roo and nih-KEE-roo (This is the one that prompted me to post this. XD)
Arluk: are(as in the word)-LOOK (like the words "look" or "hook")

Ching: same as Jing, just "ch" in front
Hannon: HAH-non (like a cannon)
Gai Dao: guy-DOW (really pronounced "dao", where I emphasize the "a" to "o" vowel transition)
Pao: POW (same "ao" emphasis as above, hard to describe)
Tetsu: tet-SOO

Fenghuang: feng(as in Long Feng) - HWAANG(sort of like the Spanish pronunciation of "Juan" with a "g" sound on the end)
Junren: Jun(short "u", as in gun) - REN(as in Renaissance)

Sorry for the extensiveness, but this has been kinda bugging me. Feel free to post your own list too. Is there any sort of consensus/official stance (or as official as GJr gets) on these at all?

>>79589
As far as I know, these are all correct.

>>79589


Only differences I have (not like it matters, but we all interpret them in different ways) is:


Nikiru: Knee-kir (similar to purr)-ru

Arluk: Are-Luck

Gai Dao: Gwee-Dough

Tetsu: Tet (similar to met)-Sue

Fenghuang: Fang (with more of an E sound, slightly)-Hung



Though I doubt I'm absolutely right, we all look at it differently. However you think it.

I think "Jiyi" falls on the first syllable. And since Tetsu is a Japanese word, the primary syllable is the first, and the "u" is elided. (Think "desu".)

I also pronounce "Yue" as one syllable, being Chinese for "moon".

>>79594
I actually forget exactly how I planned for his name to be pronounced, but I don't think I wanted it to sound quite so close to Guido. Guy-Dough, maybe?

>>79592

SIS FIST

Dem S3 costumes!

>Name Pronunciations

All these are pretty much how I pronounce them in my head

>>79504

No, Maye, I will not ignore you! NUH-UH

Hurm. Starting the comic again from the top, eh? This page is a startling improvement over your first attempt. The birds make the sea seem alive, the bloom effect is pretty and adds a light source without going overboard (BLOOOOOM), and the water has more texture!

OK BACK TO IGNORING YOU AGAIN.

I had an amusing thought because of the Yi Lin revelation discussion and I thought I would share it. Basically, Yi Lin has just realized her attraction to Nikiru, and as she processes this while Irah pulls her aside, she realizes how her liking girls has subconsciously shaped her thinking.

Yi Lin: ...And no wonder I kept thinking that there was something going on between Aunt Azula and Ty Lee! I was just making it all up in my head!

Irah: ...We'll talk about that later.

Another idea I had was that post revelation Yi Lin would have had her "shipper vision" corrected by actually being in love herself. Like she's watching a crowded marketplace and seeing good couplings between people that are genuinely attracted to one another/in love. And then she sees Hayoda and Irah or Jing and Tseng together and just kind of goes "Oh that is bullshit!" and her vision corrects itself to how it was previously.

Is there any pic of adult On-Ji? I want to draw a scene based on TDL's story with her and Toph hugging Tom Tom's arms.

>>79630

http://gaangjr.wikia.com/wiki/On_Ji

Right here.

SLEEVIE-HUG! THEY JUST ENVELOPE EVERYTHING.

Nikiru and Yi Lin hug, season 3 clothings.

>>79634

Thanks, Sharkman!

Moar Nikiru. Cuz I've discovered I like drawing her.

>>79492
Re-reading The Dai Li's post. And I really like this idea, or at least the basics of having Lee do something that forces an over-arching plot with real villains. I'd be curious to see what can be worked out, and how it fits with stuff that's already been written.
I'm curious, were we thinking this for season 3 then? Because then it would almost make sense for the Yikiru stuff, (if we decide to take that directions), to be more towards the beginning or middle, rather than the end.

>>79670

I always thought the Yikiru stuff would be best left towards the end and she goes adventuring with them after the end credits roll or so.

Either way, for a season 3 plot it doesn't sound so bad, the first two can show everyone and set everything up, and the third can shift stuff forwards. I guess if I were to actually make this into a program I'd probably have this story take up 30 eps rather than 20 just to make sure I got everything I wanted in (and it's a pretty big thing), but yeah, season 3 sounds good.

>>79492
You know, regarding villains, I have this small idea for one but I'm still having trouble coming up with much about his actions or motivations. It's just this idea of a guy whose thinking sort of reopens our conversation about large-scale issues in the Avatar world (I'll explain what I mean in just a sec). And whoever he is, he ends up capturing Yi Lin (maybe the others too?), but not to return to their parents and not for ransom or personal gain, but because he thinks he's protecting them somehow from being used by people (their parents?).
Maybe he's someone who suffered greatly in the War, and has become so bitter or something and has become convinced that despite the Avatar's efforts, the world can't go back to the way it was -- that it's irreparably damaged.
I mean, a lot of us talk about questions like whether Appa's the last of his kind, or if the Air Nomads will ever be rebuilt. And I don't mean to answer these sorts of questions since I think that for the most part it's outside the realm of experience for these kids who aren't dealing with world-changing events (and I like that normally we don't deal with those sorts of questions). But what if there were people thinking like we detached fans do -- within the world itself?
It just might be interesting to see how Yi Lin deals with someone reminding her that there haven't been other Airbenders found, or that Appa seems to be the only sky bison left, or that uncomfortable idea that Appa's slowly getting older and older. Or this guy is trying to convince her that her dad and others care about her more as a continuation of the Air Nomads than as a person (in the same way some fans only talk about Aang's possible kids as "repopulating his people"), that everyone's wanting to get her married off to some man for that reason (and, given the sort of discussion we've been having on Yi Lin recently, the idea of this would be what really sets her off against this captor of hers).
Basically, the fragments of this idea are all about torturing poor Yi Lin's mind, just taking this girl who has always sidestepped or pushed aside uncomfortable truths or thoughts, and forcing her to deal with them. She's always been one full of hope and optimism, sure that "everything will turn out OK," but I'm most interested in seeing what she like when something threatens to shake that or she finds those self-assurances to be small comfort. I like to imagine Yi Lin as someone who keeps a lot of serious and upsetting thoughts away because, once upset, she has a very hard time pushing it away or calming herself. As you can tell, I don't know much at all about this villain idea -- not even enough to make his thoughts and motivations internally consistent -- but I thought I'd dump this out just to see if any of it clicks with anyone else.

But c'mon everyone we need to figure out more villains. :]

>>79747
This has the potential to be really dark and psychological. But if done right, I think it could be really interesting.

So, I started writing a little story based on this. >>77589 Not much too it yet, but I'm just having fun just doing something ridiculous. I'll make sure to post some when I have a little more of it done.

>>79670

I'm not sure about Lee as a really, really big villain. I mean, he doesn't want to give the kids pain for the hell of it, his goal is a vague and amorphous need to retreat inside his childhood self. He's not the sort of guy who hires people. He either appeals to others' sense of idealism or tricks others into doing his bidding.

Essentially, I saw him as a fun and chipper Colonel Kurtz. In fact, he was going to be the villain in an Apocalypse Now pastiche I had planned ("Heart of Oddness", with Kazuma hitching a lift up a river with the Gaang Jr in tow, witnessing an overly-aggressive aid drop by Earth Kingdom requisitioned airships manned by opera singers and my god it sounds stupid already...). He's very hands-on, and if he wants to pull off something HUGE, it's not going to be anything that needs a lot of resources. Ill-conceived spirit world shenanigans would probably have to be involved, but I think having Lee roping the Gaang Jr into a dangerous and life-threatening adventure would appeal to his lop-sided sense of fun.

>>79747

I like the sound of this. If we want to rope in Lee somehow, it would work with the theme, since he's all about retreating into responsibility-free cocoons damn-the-consequences.

Hey, you know you guys made Fandom Secrets again.

http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/504778.html?thread=310096330#t310096330

The comments aren't as pretty this time

>>79778

>Greater Anonymous breaking gjr's shoes
>Greater Anonymous getting trolled by Anonymous

Mari's edit apparently means we're all godless deviants

>>79797
Which is an unfair assumption. After all, only some of us are godless deviants.

>>79797
We aren't? :3

Ah well, these sorts of things, while sort of saddening, don't matter very strongly to me since as long as I'm having fun that's what matters. :) The best thing about all this is us making things we enjoy for each other.

Heading to NYC today without laptoppu, gonna be gone for a tad. Hopefully there will be some interesting things in Chinatown. :D

>>79778

My pc freezes everytime I try to access this link. Can somebody explain these "Fandom Secrets" to me?

I'm still curious about that GJr's yaoi thing...

>>79778
>ugh...mayekoi

I HAVE HATERS!

I'm well known enough to have HATERS!

Movin on up :'D

>>79885
>Movin on up :'D

Getting out of the darkness,
My light shines on,
My light shines on,
My light shines on.

>>79885
...I didn't know you had/are in fandoms, Maye.

>>79885

  >>79885

>>79773

I think it's worth noting that the version of Lee I'm talking about is not your version of Lee, ras, much as this version of Fenghuang isn't Rimmers.

Which is, overall, the problem with the villains. All the kids feel like they belong to everyone, and all the supporting characters we bring in tend to be older people from the past show, so everyone's comfortable with them. Out of the villains though, the only one who everyone seems to get (relatively) on board with is Ching, and she doesn't exude 'big bad'. Nor does Hannon, or any of the Anti-Gaang Jr. (an idea which I must admit doesn't excite me). Junren, who I'm happy to use as a big bad, seems wholly take up by Rimmer (through no fault of his own), Lee is taken up by you, and my namesake...well, by me, I suppose, being my namesake. No-one's willing to take anyone else's stronger villains or ideas and run with them, or make them work in a larger scenario.

To address the point over not paying, that's just something I threw up there, it could be that he made both parties an offer, or Fenghuang is just going along with it because he has his own motives.


>>79747

This is decent, but we need more. How did he find the kids, why he's doing it to them in particular (or simply Yi Lin in particular) why the rest of the crew or even the original Gaang aren't helping (a short time away, maybe? Would that be enough?)

>But if done right, I think it could be really interesting.

If anything's done right it'll be interesting. The question is: Will anything be done?

>>79910
>I think it's worth noting that the version of Lee I'm talking about is not your version of Lee, ras, much as this version of Fenghuang isn't Rimmers.

Arg, yes, you're right. I keep forgetting: action figures. I've used and abused Ching enough times that I should know this by now.

So yeah, given that, it could work pretty well. If your iteration of Lee has a bigger adventurer's treasure haul than mine, then questions of payment shouldn't be as much of a difficulty as I first imagined.

>>79778
...Wow, I really was justified in de-watching that place and never looking back, not even for comedy's sake. It's just gotten even more clusterfucky.

Yeah so, this thing. I've been working on and off it. THOSE SCALES ARGHFSJHF

>>79920

>>79920

Awesome work, waffled one! Yue's gonna catch 'em all, indeed. Even this one!

Aw thanks guys! Fuzzy spider friend for Yue? YES

Bumpin' with another durpy picture. This time with kabuki/kyoshi warrior Hayoda. 'Cause why not.

>>80143
It's the return of Hilara!

You know...

Tseng cross dresses as Sen. Hayoda cross dresses as Hilara. Yi Lin cross dresses as The Masked Shipper (sort of, it is supposed to look like Rorschach ).

Do Irah and Yue have tranny alter egos?

>>80156

Yaaaay!!!

I figure the rest of the nega-gaang jr. deserve character designs as well. Here's what I've got for Pao.

>>80305
I like this design. It takes Pao in a slightly different direction than my own mental image of him, though. :)

The way I thought of Pao was as this really short kid with a shaved head (because stray flames would always burn it) -- I think I always stuck the figure of Teen Titans' "Gizmo" in there just because of his immature obnoxiousness (he'd totally call the GJr "snots" all the time).

>>80305
You did a good job of capturing his attitude.

>>80330
My initial image of him had him as mostly bald, but with a scruffy ponytail in the back and tufts of hair on his temples (kind of like what Astro used to have; pic related). I think the idea was to imply what you said about stray flames, but also to convey a sense of sloppiness. And maybe he'd be missing an eyebrow, I don't know.

Immature name-calling really sounds up his alley, though.

>>80330 >>80332
Oh wow. Now I'm picturing him as completely bald except for like a charred rattail or something obnoxious like that.

>>80305
That's... nice.

At the risk of turning the characters into personal mouthpieces:

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"If they had just called him 'Aang'! Once!" Tseng's voice echoed loudly in the massive theatre lobby, startling a nearby group of teenaged girls standing in line.

"We get it, hun," Jing said next to him, running her fingers through his dreads.

"AANG!" the Waterbender repeated, melodramatically raising his arms to the heavens.

Jing laughed. "I'm going to have to start calling you 'Tsong' now that I know how worked up you are about it!" She wrapped an arm around her irritated boyfriend, giving him a quick squeeze. He'd calm down in time, but for now she'd enjoy the fun.

"So you're not worked up about it?" Irah asked. She had almost nodded off a couple times, making the whole experience feel like it dragged on even longer than for her friends.

"Heck yes I am, I cringed along with the rest of you. But I think, more than hating it myself, I love you guys tearing it apart more. Tell me what you thought, 'Eerah.'"

Irah pushed aside the playful barb, trying to find her calm. "There were some ... interesting ideas in it." She measured her words. "Iroh's dreads were... interesting. I was worried he was going to be all evil and cackling, like someone kept insisting was going to happen." Jing whistled innocently. "I'm just glad he was still pretty calm, drinking tea..."

Irah blinked, as if suddenly remembering something. "And you!" She suddenly punched Hayoda on the shoulder. "You told me he drank coffee!" So much for calm.

"Ow!" Hayoda rubbed his tender skin. "Hey, that's just what I overheard someone saying!" In this case, that 'someone' had been Jing.

Jing turned away from the two of them. "So what did you think, Yi Lin?"

"...eh, what?" Yi Lin said absent-mindedly. She wore a thousand-yard stare on her face and not a word had passed her lips since the group had left the theatre.

"Any characters for your notebook? How 'bout that moment in the oasis with Zuko and Katara?" Jing pressed, obviously trolling for a reaction. "Gonna stick that in your journal?"

That seemed to snap the shell-shocked Airbender out of her daze. "Okay, first of all: ew. Second of all: there were no characters in it! Not real characters, anyway. I can't ship under these kinds of conditions."

Meanwhile, Irah and Hayoda had moved on to another subject.

"And the fights? I mean, the way that they made the elements look was pretty neat, but I enjoyed the bits without bending infinitely more." Irah scratched her head. "Which I suppose, mathematically, doesn't mean much at all, considering I didn't enjoy the bending bits at all."

"Yyyyep," Hayoda said, stretching his stiff back and taking a bit of personal pride in the statement, "Non-benders are pretty much the best. But that delayed bending stuff, where did they get that from? I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anyone..." He struggled for the right word, "dancing and bending. I mean--" he cleared his throat, catching himself, "--present company excluded; you dance very nicely, Princess Irah."

Irah groaned. "Augh, no, stop, don't associate me with that. That was awful! Hahaha, and those Earthbenders that had to move around for thirty-seconds to make one little rock float through the air?"

"Oh, I... I liked that part," Yue said meekly, staring at the ground and chewing her lip. "It was kind of nice seeing other people having trouble with their Earthbending."

A sudden awkward silence fell over the group. "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean..." Irah put a sympathetic hand on Yue's shoulder, feeling the Earthbender shaking.

Yue looked up, and as they stared at each other a glint in the young girl's eye betrayed her. Her lips curled into a mischievous smile, and the shaking giggles she had tried to contain burst out in a raucous bout of laughter that was just too infectious for the others not to join in. Even Tseng gave a chuckle or two.

"Ahahahaha, I got you all!" Yue chortled, wiping her eyes and patting Irah on the back. "But seriously though," she deadpanned, "that whole thing was just terrible."

"You said it," Hayoda said. "C'mon, let's go find somewhere to eat."

>>81028

DO WANT drawfag of reactions...

>>81028

>"Oh, I... I liked that part," Yue said meekly, staring at the ground and chewing her lip. "It was kind of nice seeing other people having trouble with their Earthbending."

>my face when I read that bit

Well done redirecting your RAEG over TLA into something the gaanginites can truly appreciate!

Also

>Jing spreading the coffee rumor

Well played, sir.

Toph: So, how was your night last night?

Tom Tom: Oh no, not this time.

Toph: What?

Tom Tom: You know damn well I went and saw the Avatar film last night. I am not getting tricked into another blind joke.

Toph: They made a movie about us? I hadn't heard anything about that!

Tom Tom: What? Even with all the people constantly complaining about it? How could you have missed that?

Toph: I didn't hear anything.

Tom Tom:.....IT'S BEEN YOU! You've been spreading that rumor!

Toph: Cmon, me on the Internet? I don't see how that's possible.

Tom Tom: Well this is obviously a non canon thing so maybe you.....

Toph: }:3

Tom Tom: Gyahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>81138
Oh man, the endless possibilities of Toph-jokes for a completely new sense...

Haha, looks like the movie talk has utterly dominated +/a/ and pushed this little thing to the side, huh?

Anyway I just had a sweet little idea I wanted to share. I guess it's kind of a Yikiru thing? Remember that one story a while back, where we learned that Yi Lin sleeptalks and is extremely suggestible -- and that Tseng (and Yue) take advantage of this? Well, I was just reading this little thread on Reddit ( http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cmj3o/reddit_i_need_help_i_can_actively_control_my/ ) and thought it would be cute if Nikiru made a habit of suggesting really happy, fulfilling things to Yi Lin when she's sleeptalking so she has nice dreams :3

So what would be these "best possible" dreams to give Yi Lin? What would Nikiru pick out that would make Yi Lin happy?

...42? Seriously? WE WERE ON 20 LAST TIME I WAS HERE.

>>81544
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

(I need help putting that drunk hayoda remake story under a cut on the archive, it doesn't let me edit it for some reason)

>>81545
It isn't letting me save the edit either. Want me to just delete it and repost it?

>>81566
I guess so.

We should probably let nikki_tan know. I'll send her a message.

>>81620
... as soon as I can figure out how. God I haven't used livejournal in almost a year.

Well I sent her the message, but she hasn't replied yet. Guess we'll just wait.

Oh, and guys? What do you think would sound better, "the Adventures of the Gaang Jr" or the "Misadventures of the Gaang Jr"?

Just curious, not asking for any particular reason or anything.

*whistle*

>>82015

'Adventures!'

[Hayoda]"THERE ARE NO MISADVENTURES!"[/Hayoda]

brb, killing self

http://iwl.me/ related link

>>82220

Huh. My yet-to-be-published novel (in its entirety) apparently mimics David Foster Wallace (which is...good?). My Gaang Jr fic 'Such Wonders' more closely resembles Ruyard Kipling according to the ineffable gods of the internet.

Not sure if that's good or not, since he was a condescending imperialist windbag. A very eloquent condescending imperialist windbag, but still...

>>82224

I noticed deadpan humor tends to get Wallace, I had some pseudoscience crap that I used to end my DA journals with along with my entries get me Dan Brown a few times, and Wallace for others. One got me H.P. Lovecraft! Feels good, man.

>>82220
I submitted Sames and Opposites and it said I wrote like the author of Fight Club, which is weird because I was going for a Terry Pratchett vibe.

Oh ho...

I put in that Jinsengkiru fic of mine and got William Gibson! :D But when I put in the second-to-last part -- the one with all the sex -- I got James Joyce; I'm not sure how to feel about that. :(

To get some discussion going, I've been wondering for a little bit about Tseng's understanding of relationships. I mean, with his parents, while it may not have been love at first sight, they never really dated any other people or liked anyone else (apart from a few short crushes on Katara's part) before becoming a couple. That's the model Tseng's really been around growing up. And I imagine Jing's had her fair share of boyfriends, probably varying degrees of seriousness.

That's got to be an interesting difference there between them. Would they have different ideas about where they want the relationship to go? For someone who prefers to have things planned out and anticipated, does Tseng think about or worry about the future in those terms? Would he be the sort to ask a lot about Jing's boyfriends in the past and worry about doing something that would make him like them?

As you can likely guess, I have zero relationship experience so I'm very unqualified to try to think about this (heck I can't even describe it well here), but maybe you all would have thoughts related to this.

Given the recent DoD upset, let us take a moment to be thankful for the Gaang Junior project's decentralized nature.

>>82534
You said it, man. I'll take inactivity and no one acknowledging my discussion prompts (;_;) over some pathetic juggalo forcing a bunch of shitty references into something I had slaved over, any day. ;)

>>79778
Honestly, I kind of agree with one of the criticisms, which is that the project has lost a noticeable amount of its original charm. I don't know why, but I feel as if it started when we stopped acting like it was going to be a show with episodes and seasons and started shifting towards more individual fics. The element of collaboration kinda drained out and maybe the loss of presumption that there would be some finished product on display led to the growing... deviance, shall we say.

On a mostly unrelated note, the anniversary is on the seventh of August, which isn't too far away now. Just a little reminder.

>>82231

Worry not - in my very Tseng-centric fic, it would be obviously stupid NOT to explore his relationship with Jing.

>>81511

Hard to say. I can see Nikiru deciding to use this time, actually (between creating 'relaxing on a sunny beach' sequences) finding out what it is that Yi Lin likes and dislikes, and then putting these facts into practice during life; for instace, finding out her favourite food then making it for her. So on and so forth.

This is only when she's in a sleep-talkative mood though; I imagine that she can't be communicative much during her...worse episodes. Nikiru'd just have to do what she could to comfort her during those times.

>>82231

Hmm. I think perhaps the long-term expectations are that Tseng doesn't see this ending, and that Jing is expecting the ride to end, but wants to tag along for as long as the ride goes. One day she's going to wake up, realise the ride ain't going to stop and that she's not getting any younger, freak out and leave him. Which is a little sad, but that's the way things of this nature turn out.

>>82547

I'm not going to deny it. However, I will point out that you're saying, in so many words, that Gaang Jr. no longer feels as magical because we aren't living in fantasy-land anymore.

So I'd say that feeling of disenchantment is to be expected. If you do feel we can regain such a spirit, then what would you have us make? Another crack at a comic, or more comic-story combinations?

We're just not creating an adventure for the kids anymore.

Maybe....maybe we've focused too much on the kids and forgot about everything else?

The last REAL adventure we've got is the cabbage island one. And that's been over for at least a few months.

SO. New island, new adventure, what is it, what's happening, and just how much chaos are they going to get into???

My idea involves Steampunk city totally devoted to Sokka-ism, kids learning about technology, Hilarity Ensues and as a side bonus, if we can include the techie of the anti-gaang that would be sweet~~~♥♥

>>82696
Writing a fun story is easy. Just stop thinking so much.

Action figures, remember?

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>>82704

Yeah it's so easy.

Show me how easy it is.

Okay, with the new announcement, I think we found a name for our Kataang baby (at least one of them, if plural) in our own continuity.

Saging because I don't want to detract from the main Korra thread.

>>82779
I still say we should leave the "Katara is pregnant again" plot for the very "end" of the series. Or at least until after the whole season one and the ABW point in S2.

God, we really need a timeline.

>>82829
Yi Lin:...Wow, Dad got hot.
Tseng: Gyahhh! Why do you have to say things like that?

Requesting the name change of Tseng to Tenzin.

Oh fuck it, this whole project is now moot.

>>82873
Stop, check yourself.

It's an AU fanfic, it's never been anything else.

And you'd need to change his bending element as well as his name matey.

>>82874
Not how everyone else off of plus4chan have been treating it.

>>82877
...So what?

>>82880
Not even slightly

>>82884
Hey, who's that? >:|

>>82220

Too things I've written out of borem and this thing says I write like Stephen King and William Shakespeare.