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  • 08/21/12 - Poll ended; /cod/ split off as a new board from /pco/.

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18928 No. 18928
HELLO, BONJOUR, GUTEN TAG, नमस्कार, ハロー, Привет, 你好, ہیلو שלום AND HOLA!

As those of you who frequent this board and fans of Pokemon already know, this Sunday marks the American release of the fifth generation of Pokemon, BLACK AND WHITE! For many this will be another installment in a long line of game purchases and will be like a visit from an old friend with new gifts. But for some? For some this is their first foray into a 15 year old franchise.

SO! LET THIS THREAD BE A PRIMER AND SOUND OFF THREAD FOR ALL!

To start us off, a handy youtube video that with the aid of music and large Sumagori illustrations will make learning the English names of all the pokemon easier.

Pokemon Black and White English Namesyoutube thumb
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>> No. 18930
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The biggest new feature that you'll encounter is THE DREAM WORLD!

Made possible through the Global Link Website (the American version of which won't go up till later this month so as to set up the proper servers since the Japanese version crashed in a big damn hurry) The Pokemon Dreamworld will be how you get your hands on not only Pokemon from older generations but ones with abilities they never had before now! For example, Always wanted to use a Tyranitar but felt it was too bothersome to build a team around it's sandstorm ability? Now you can get one with "Unnerve", which makes it so your opponent can't use berries!

You'll only be able to access this feature for an hour every day but for that hour you'll be able to send one of your Pokemon out and have them hang out in their own private little house you design for them, farm berries, and best of all Befriend Pokemon that you can bring back to the cartridge if you have enough dream points.
>> No. 18931
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>Touya and Touko's English names are Hilbert and Hilda, respectively.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3391/hilbertd.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8830/hilda.jpg

>The names are derived from the Germanic element hild, "battle."
>> No. 18933
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18933
That's right, a six on six throwdown is the new item on the battle menu, and it's got whole new rules for you to learn.

First rule is playing the angles, Pokemon directly in front of you will receive full damage from attacks, while Pokemon at an angle from where you attack will only receive partial damage. Those attacks that affected everyone on the field will still do so unless your partner Pokemon possesses a typing immunity, or has an ability like Telepathy that prevents team attacks.

Also this brings into play COMBO MOVES, two examples of which are the OATH moves and "Sing A Round" (it has a couple of names right now, not sure which is the right one)

Sing A Round, when chosen by all team mates will, regardless of speed, have all the pokemon attack their chosen targets one right after the other and in fact increase the damage output of the attack with each successive hit meaning damage increase from pokemon A to B to C.

And the Oath Moves (Fire, Water, Grass) will, when 2 of them are used successively will actually create a field effect. For example Fire and Grass oath create a field of flame where opponents take 1/8 max HP damage each turn.

OH! And a special note I almost forgot, damage inducing flying type moves can hit anyone anywhere on the field.
>> No. 18934
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Now, while you CAN move Pokemon around in the triple battle, it'll cost you a precious turn.

IN A ROTATION BATTLE, THIS IS NOT THE CASE!

In a Rotation Battle, what you will find is that while you send out 3 Pokemon, it's still a one on one match where you can rotate in an active pokemon and attack all in the same turn. But be wary, your opponent will also be able to do the same! You may think you're hitting that Gyarados with a Thunderbolt, but NOPE, IT'S THAT ELECTIVIRE AND HE JUST GOT A SPEED BOOST!
>> No. 18936
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18936
THE XTRANSCEIVER: A key item in the game that lets up to 4 players communicate with one another using the built in mic (Or Camera if you have one), but since it's only Local Wireless I personally don't see myself using it.

ENTRALINK: An in game forest where you catch the pokemon you meet in the Dream World and where you can hang out with fellow players alla Sinnoh's underground, but this time you get MULTIPLAYER MISSIONS

SEASONS: Every month is a different season in Unova, cycling through them just like we do in the real world, these season can affect the availability of certain pokemon and also create or block paths on the overworld!
-Springtime weather appears in January, May, and September. Certain areas may have rainy weather.
- Summer weather appears in February, June, and October. Morning begins one hour earlier, at 3:00 AM, while Day lasts an hour longer, until 8:59 PM.
- Autumn weather appears in March, July, and November.
- Winter weather appears in April, August, and December. Morning begins one hour later, at 5:00 AM, while Day lasts an hour shorter, until 6:59 PM. Due to snow piling up, certain areas can be accessed that are normally inaccessible.
>> No. 18937
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Some off you are either totally out of practice or are totally new to the game so from here on I'll include some important basics.

Like for example, THE TYPE CHART!

And since some of you find the internet terrifying and dare not venture to deep therin, have some important site links

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page (Your standard enormous well made wiki)

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml (A less standard, less flair excellent resource)

http://www.smogon.com/ (You will never find a more wretched hive of pros and troll-ery, You must be cautious. But still a good source on metagame/tourney concepts for anyone who isn't just playing against the computer)
>> No. 18938
>>18937
An important note: Smogon doesn't have much in the way of Gen 5 resources yet. They're waiting for the metagame to solidify.
>> No. 18939
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18939
I happily welcome all applicable participants into this, the 15th year of Pokemon's lifespan.

TO OLD PLAYERS
Welcome back, it's been a few years since we've had a brand new experience, leave us hope that the old familiar trappings don't dull all the new coming our way

TO NEW PLAYERS
You couldn't have picked a better time to hop in, this is after all 15 years of refined competitive game play now with more variety in other players than ever before, you're gonna be in for a wild ride but there will be no shortage of people out there to point you in the right direction. On top of the jackasses of course, but what long lasting fandom doesn't have those? ... Maybe stamp collecting?
>> No. 18944
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If you haven't already reserved yourself a copy and are still having trouble deciding, here's the big differences between the 2 versions!
>> No. 19013
betting 2 to 1 that the majority of 4chan goes for white cause it's got a brown loli for a gym leader.
>> No. 19014
>>19013
no that's just Bones
>> No. 19015
Uh-uh, not this time. I'm gonna wait for the inevitable third version.
>> No. 19016
>>19014
I already told myself I'm getting Black, even if it means missing out on Iris. It will make me sad, but I'll still have full access to the anime and fanart so whatever.
>> No. 19024
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>>19015
...On the other hand, I doubt Gray or Double Rainbow or whatever will give me ten Amazon Fun Bucks for preordering. Black it is, I guess.
>> No. 19026
>>18944
Man... I think I might get Black just for that Tron city.
>> No. 19028
I'm buying both.
Yeah.
>> No. 19029
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19029
I got the Japanese English-patched ROM Black, so English White.

Pic related, it's my future starter.
>> No. 19032
>>19029
Remember when the starters were first unveiled? Remember all the hate this little guy got?
>> No. 19033
I'm so damn excited for Sunday. I'm driving out, buying the game, and running back home to play as much as I can.
>> No. 19034
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>>19033
DON'T FORGET TO DOWNLOAD YOUR LIBERTY PASS TO GET YOUR VICTINI!
>> No. 19035
>>19034
THANKS DOC, NOW I KNOW TO DO THAT
>> No. 19036
>>19035
Mystery gift, the option you use to download event stuff? It doesn't kick in till you get the pokedex. Have fun standing around in the store for at least 10 to 15 minutes.
>> No. 19037
>>19036
No, you get it via the internet.
>> No. 19042
>>19037
But since I can't get my Wi-fi network to run on a security code that doesn't exclude any of our other computers, I do have to use that!

Though at least there's a Gamestop on my way to and back from class.
>> No. 19045
>>19042
There's always Starbucks, Mcdonalds, a fair number of other restaurants and coffee shops that offer free wifi.
>> No. 19052
This thread is also for general Black & White related posting, such as questions, comments, and other general shooting of the shit!
>> No. 19054
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I think I'm going to box my starter in favor of other Pokemon

Is this wrong of me

is it?
>> No. 19055
>>19054
Only if your starter is Smugleaf.
>> No. 19056
>>19054
I do it all the time. I never played Pokemon as a kid, though.
>> No. 19094
>>19054
Fiiiiieeeeeend...
>> No. 19136
>>18931
Ahaha, Hilbert. Jesus fuck, that's awful.
>> No. 19137
>>19136
Yeah like you were gonna keep it anyway.
>> No. 19138
>>19137
Keep what? The baby? Don't tell me what to do with my body.
>> No. 19139
>>19136
It's better than Blair and Whitlea.
>> No. 19145
>>19139
Blair is debatable.
>> No. 19146
I'd prefer Blake and Whitney.
>> No. 19157
Guys I can't decide on a terribad nickname for my darling UnderStand.

Im torn between partiosprey, califalcon, cherokeagle, Thomas A. Hawkins, the Maltese sundae, or peregraceland falcon (for which I will need sioux suede bird gloves.)
>> No. 19172
>>19034
what level is it?
>> No. 19173
>>19042
They sell usb to ds wires
>> No. 19174
I got the game. Under peer pressue
>> No. 19175
No one talked about this GTS Negotiations thing.
This is fun!
I want to see if I can get something cool for the Bulbasaur I got.
>> No. 19179
What the hell Gamefreak
I want to raise every new Pokemon I catch
I can't raise twenty Pokemon I'm only like two gyms in
Why must there be so many COOL THINGS HERE
>> No. 19181
It's been one day and already I'm loosing patience in my decision to just wait for Gray.
>> No. 19182
7 HOURS IN AND ALL IS WELL

Hal is having an absolutely WONDERFUL time in Unova and wishes you all were here.

I won't spoil much but to say that the local for badge 3 is an enormous fun for all time sink! Also cool to look at.
>> No. 19184
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Oh, God, I love Pidove so much more than Pidgey or the other start-birds. He's just so derpy and adorable.
>> No. 19185
Munna is the best
>> No. 19186
named Tepig...Pig Boss. He is my bro for life. Also, I think Tympole and his hole evolutionary tree are some of my favorite water types. Named him Seaman. My Lillipup, which has now evolved, I named Cmsr Gordon. Oh, and I named my Throh, Rourke. Because both he and Mickey Rourke look like they were made by a cobbler.
>> No. 19187
>leave Roggenrola with daycare so I can use it against the electric gym with out ever having to use it anywhere else
>it's now lvl 32 now

have I...have I been mucking about?
>> No. 19189
>>19187
Eh? Roggenrolla isn't a ground type.
>> No. 19190
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19190
>>19189

...huh. Well shit.

It still gets Smack Down, which is super-effective against Elesa's two Emolga.The move also nullifies the Not-related-to-Pachirisu-disappointment's Flying-type to Ground-type moves.

But if you absolutely must have a Ground-type, Drilbur, Sandile, and Tympole (once evolved) are canidates.
>> No. 19204
>>19189
well it was more to take out her Emolgas
>> No. 19205
>>19204
Yeah, those are kind of a pain.
My heavy hitters are Servine and Scraggy, and they can't do anything against flying.
And my other guys didn't have the power to stand up to them either.
Zebstrika was ironically infinitely easier to take down, despite the higher level.
>> No. 19207
>>19205
Now see, I had the opposite problem. The tiny flying squirrels went down like the sunset in the face of my running full tilt while on fire LUCHADORE PIG, and then every single time that stupid zebra used shockwave or volt switch it ALWAYS paralyzed. I weakened it with effort from said swine and a masterfully pulled off Dig by Dwebble, and then my AWESOMESAUCE POMPAMONKEY pulled off a while paralyzed seed bomb victory.

Maaaaaaaan I missed having this much fun with pokemon. This game came just in time.
>> No. 19208
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>you get your Pokemon from a package you open in your room and Bianca immediately challenges you to a battle
>end battle
>your room is completely trashed, and even has a line of treads on the ceiling
I think that's the first time I've literally laughed out loud at something in a Pokemon game.
>> No. 19209
>>19208
Whoa wait what really? I love little details like that.
>> No. 19212
>>19209
Wait, technically not on the ceiling , on the walls (they might be on the ceiling but you can't see the ceiling).
>> No. 19275
Oh wow there are a lot of cheat codes for these games already. Even WPMs! I don't think there were any of those for Plat or HG/SS.
>> No. 19285
What the?
I can't trade yet? The hell? But I want my Ganon and Taggerung!
>> No. 19286
>>19285
yeah you gotta get to at least the third town I think before you can head into the Union Room.
>> No. 19287
>>19286
Oh god damnit.
>> No. 19288
Just got out of Nimbasa City. Space Mountain Gym is best Gym.
>> No. 19289
GOOOOOOOOOOOAL!

Black Version has arrived!

LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED.
>> No. 19291
The Pokemon League brought me to tears. It was like, beautiful, and somehow nostalgic, but it reminded me of God of War.
>> No. 19292
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>Fire Fang keeps missing against Burgh's Pokemon
>"Oh no big deal, I have an X Accuracy here..."
>Darumaka almost dead while I use buff items on it
>"Okay, playing it close, but let's begin!"
>Princeton used Fire Fang! Dwebble avoided the attack!
>> No. 19296
THOUGHTS SO FAR:
A: I find it kind of hilarious that Bianca got a name change from BELLE, whereas a gem like CHEREN got left alone.

B: As someone that hasn't played since the 3rd gen, I must say that I DO NOT REMEMBER THESE GAMES BEING HARD. Maybe I'm not grinding enough.
>> No. 19297
>>19296
Only ever played halfway through IV and yeah, I noticed a change in levels. There were generally higher levels earlier in the game than the older ones. So I guess that might be it?
>> No. 19299
>>19297
On the other hand, you don't even have to buy almost any items anymore, most of the time. The game just throws everything after you, from potions to pokéballs and stat healers. There are even people who act as whole Pokemon Centers on many routes. Hell yeah.
>> No. 19301
Oh, man the Elite 4 was amazing. That cutscene with Reshiram/Zekrom? Holy shit I wish I could replay it just for that
>> No. 19302
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>>Go to a previous route to grind
>>SUDDENLY SHINY PIDOVE
>>It's female

Well... Shit. Better than nothing I guess.
>> No. 19307
>>19299
Money seems to be easier to come by, too. Even before I started abusing my Amulet Coin, I didn't have to worry about being able to keep myself stocked with Potions and Revives.

Still, I agree that the game feels like it's gotten harder. Even having all the recovery items I need, it's harder. I'm not even sure if it's the levels as much as it is the stats--fighting Pokemon the same level as me who don't have type advantage, I still see them regularly being able to two-shot me.
>> No. 19309
Rotation battles are tons of fun.
>> No. 19311
Finally, finally got White. Hello Unova, prepare to have your ass handed to you.
>> No. 19314
>>19209
Also, your Wii is completely undamaged, apparently being made of an especially tough strain of nintendium.

>>19208
Continuing on that note
>a man states he's been feeling like shit because his Pokemon gets him up with Wake-Up Slap, but he admires its enthusiasm too much to punish it
>a woman in another building states her boyfriend wasn't getting up on time, so she told his Pokemon to get him up with Wake-Up Slap

Wow, is it just me or is some of the NPC dialogue a lot more amusing this time around?
>> No. 19315
HA HA
Just beat the main storyline last night.
Am now exploring the post-game places.

>>19297
I concur. I noticed from the very beginning it seemed like a pain in the ass to do a damn thing. I think there's a steeper learning curve to this gen.
Also, as someone who's now beat the game I gotta say:

Prepare your anus. It only get's rougher.
>> No. 19316
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So I'm probably going to just hack halfway decent stats onto Zekrom. Catching 726 individual Pokémon before finishing the main game? Fuck that noise.

Let's hope Grey goes the Emerald/Platinum route with Unova's mascot legendaries. Even if we're forced to capture Kyurem, at least we'll have BW to fall back on.

As if I use Ubers anyway.
>> No. 19317
>>19316
There are a few pieces of evidence to support the idea that Kyurem will have at least one alternate form come Gray. Namely two moves they found while inspecting the data that are supposedly linked to him (or at least, all three of Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram), yet no one can actually learn them yet.
>> No. 19318
>>19316
Everyone knows Ubers are just trophy Pokemon anyway.

Every time I hear about this game it just sounds more and more fantastic. I might just break down and buy it when my leg heals and splurge on Grey when it comes out.
>> No. 19319
>>19314
>Wow, is it just me or is some of the NPC dialogue a lot more amusing this time around?
I've noticed that, too. There have been some lines from random trainers that actually got a chuckle out of me. I can't recall a specific one, but it seems like there were a few that got honest-to-goodness laughs.

And there's a lot more characterization this time all around. The two rivals both get a bunch and so far it seems like every gym leader I've come to has had at least a mini-arc that lets you know who they are before moving on to the next gym.

I'm only halfway through and I'm already just about ready to call this generation the best one yet.
>> No. 19322
Is it true they got rid of things like gym leader rematches?
>> No. 19323
>>19322
Depends on what you mean by "got rid of"; so far gym leader rematches have only been available in re-releases or remakes. The same with the Battle Frontier.
>> No. 19324
>>19323
Good point. Waiting for that third version is gonna be a pain.
>> No. 19326
>>19323
>>19322

It was bound to happen, things we dislike cropping up. Well allow me to air some grievances as well.

>NO MORE AUTO RUN
That's silly, why would you do that Gamefreak

>NO FOLLOWING POKEMON
Not a total detriment, but it helped the immersion and I kinda miss it

>THE BOTTOM SCREEN
Dammit it feels so useless now... Couldn't you have given us the C-Gear with all the stuff the wrist gadgets from Platinum and Heart Gold had?

>BATTLE FRONTIER
Maybe they'll give us a new one in "Grey"? Please? You can send the Battle Train guys there if you like.

>FISHING
NOT TILL POST STORYLINE!? WHAT THE CRAP?!

>REMATCHES
Oh come on, you give us a Vs Seeker, you give us a cell phone, but you can't give us Xtransceiver chat with other trainers and gym leaders?

Hmn... Well no yeah that's about it. I think I already talked about how the Box System bothered me a little.
>> No. 19329
I started this yesterday and for some reason I'm just... really not enjoying it. At all. I dunno.
>> No. 19330
>>19326
>NO FOLLOWING POKEMON

Shit, this was my favorite part of HGSS, and probably the reason why I finished it but not Diamond. I-it was really cute, okay? Shut up.
>> No. 19331
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19331
why does it feel like I hit a wall of un-fun when I beat the game?
>> No. 19332
>>19330
My Umbreon and me are BFF. It feels wrong not having an Umbreon following me around now.

>>19326
I tend to agree about every point here. The box system feels all sorts of wrong now after the very streamlined version of SS/HG.
I think the thing that most immediately bothers me is not being able to fish. They give you surf... and virtually NO FREAKING WAY to teach it to any pokemon. There are like 2 water types tops before you can surf, and both of those are types you don't really want to bog down with HM moves. (and of course, one of them is a damn starter.)
The Xtransceiver really does feel really useless (well, pretty much the entire CGear feels useless) since you can't make any calls.
>> No. 19333
>>19326
>>THE BOTTOM SCREEN
Dammit it feels so useless now...

We finally have a dowsing machine/itemfinder that we can leave on pretty much at all times.
>> No. 19334
>>19331
Hurpa derp level spike, it's not fun again till you climb to level 70.
>> No. 19338
Woo! I beat it!
Now I gotta get around to removing some surfs so I can send my old teams up.
>> No. 19343
All right, cloned all my Gen IV Pokémon I want on Black and sent them over. Now I have to grind BP for battle items.
>> No. 19344
>>19343
Cloned?
>> No. 19345
>>19344

I.E.: The only reason I got this Action Replay.
>> No. 19347
>>19332

Which ones are you not wanting to "bog down" with Surf? Surf is the best water move for all of the pre-fishing Water-types I've looked at except for Carracosta and Basculin. I suppose a case could be made for Scald because of the Burn effect, or Aqua Jet if you're wanting to use Priority moves, but Surf is definitely the best option for damage-dealing moves other than Water Spout. And Frillish is the only Gen 5 Pokemon that learns Water Spout.
>> No. 19350
Got Black last night. I'm enjoying it so far, but choosing between what I'm actually using on my team is tough. Kinda pissed that I can't get Wargle, too. He was gonna be my flying type.
>> No. 19351
>>19350
That's okay, those guys are very late game Pokemon, anyways.
>> No. 19365
>>19347
Carracosta essentially. You can't catch a Basculin until you can surf, but you can trade for one... But I really just don't like using a traded pokemon. (a personal peeve ust for me)

But yeah, The only two water types I encountered before I traded for that Basculin was Oshawott and Carracosta (and I didn't pick Oshawott). Normally I don't mind using Surf, but... I just really liked the moveset my Carracosta has.
Okay, I guess Panpour counts too, but I got the brocolli monkey instead because I chose Tepig.
>> No. 19366
I just taught my Stoutland to Surf.

Workin' out pretty well, Steel and Rock-types aren't as much of a problem.
>> No. 19367
There are a few things I've decided I really hate about White.
1: no more autorun
2: Unless I'm connected to the internet, the c gear is pretty much useless. Thanks for wasting the bottom screen guys. Seriously, years of useful stuff at the bottom screen, and this is what they come up with? I miss my poketch.
3: The daycare lady. All of a sudden, only one pokemon at a time?
4: not being able to adjust font,and the new hp bar.
>> No. 19368
>>19367
You're rescue the Day Care Man a little later in the game, and the Day Care will have two Pokemon again.
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