>mr Bishonen takes a bite of rose petal one frame
>next frame he's obviously chomping down on the whole flower

It's touches like that.

>>30428
Hell, their current mission is blowing a factory up.

>>30433

This thread somehow reminds me of /a/ on 4chan. I'm surprised nobody's taking about Burgess in the last panel. What's unique about One Piece is that most of the time it's very unpredictable, hence why Oda is a master at this series.

>>30437
In retrospect, Burgess being there is obvious (and now Luffy's going to get his shit stomped in.) I'm sort of amazed that nobody predicted he'd show up for a Coliseum fight with a powerful Devil Fruit as the prize, that's EXACTLY the sort of thing he was made for.

>>30438
I don't see Luffy getting beaten definitivley by Burgess in this story arc

>>30431
And Rebecca is Kuina.
Awesome.

>>30433

>>30438
Yeah they did mention the BB crew is after Devil fruits.

>>30442
That, and Burgess loves getting in fighting matches. He loves it so much he challenges random people on the street to brawls. Of COURSE he's going to enter a giant coliseum tournament.

>>30437
I like his big new beard.
>>30439
He should make luffy sweat though, which we haven't seen since the jump.

This guy on the front cover. Is he a cyborg a la franky? He's fucking freaky looking.

Also, it's the same guy that x drake challenged eh? I suppose we knew it was the same island though.

>>30439
neither do I. We never seen Jesus actually fight, but have seen him endure some pretty high level whoppings from the higher ups in the new world. My guess is that he and luffy will have to come toe to toe and have the battle interrupted by the factory being destroyed.

also the odds of blackbeard having a long and entirely composed of dark- matter beard have increased hundred fold.

They male gladiators are very condescending towards 'Becca because she's an attractive woman but they do refer to her as the undefeated, so I assume she can actually hold her own.

I wonder if she can use Armament Haki with her shield, that would be pretty neat.

>>30461
>MMO armor

>>30462
To be fair Luffy isn't getting to wear all of that armour either because of the Arena's weight restrictions, he strips most of it off after that one panel.

>>Oda, I luvs ya, but a gladiator, male or female, ought to be a tad more toned.

>oda
>believable and realistic anatomy.

>>30465
less about realism and more he's gotten pretty lazy when it comes to the girls I'd think.

>>30464
Putting Burgess in that pic was a mistake. That's maybe a fifth of his actual size and build? And then Cavendish is likely to not be built at all. I get what they're going for, but that's pretty much the worst way to go about it.

>>30467
Um...they clearly aren't all to the same scale in that image?
Also Cavendish is less a gladiator type and more a pirate who's fighting in the arena perhaps. I doubt he'll even have any of the themed armor on.

>>30468
Don't bother. Half the people in this place have serious autistic issues.

Everyone everywhere has all autism. Can we move on from this word?

>>30468
I don't mean he's too small, I mean that he's too lean. Burgess is a giant of a man, and here he's just fairly fit.

>>30466
I argue that women specifically overall can't have as varied and interesting of character designs as males in Oda's style.
And when they do, they may as well be male or genderless because they hardly look female.

>>30474
He could start by giving a newly introduced woman-warrior some muscle or some such.

Not to the steroid-level of Miss Monday, simply just not giving her the same body type he gives ALL non-ugly/monster women.
A freakishly petite waist and big tits is not the only way to show a woman and have her look feminine.

This has gotten to the point its one of Oda's flaws, just like with Toriyama's same-face amongst all his characters.
I love One Piece but still there's things Oda doesn't do so well.

>>30475
>He could start by giving a newly introduced woman-warrior some muscle or some such.
Unless she has a bulk up move, it's a little too late for that.

>>30479
Well then-

>>He *could have started* by giving *the* newly introduced woman-warrior some muscle or some such.

Does that get the point across clearer without inviting a tangent?

>>30472
Starting with you, right? The most autistic retard these boards have ever met.

>>30475
Sure, I wasn't implying he's GODa or anything. It's a weakness in design capabilities but it's something ingrained thus far in his otherwise lovable conventions.
He does exactly what you say. If he's drawing a woman and she's intended to be not monstrous or attractive, she's going to be Bellemere with different hair or a mermaid tail. His men in the "not monstrous" category are much more varied.
If his women are going to be in his usually loose and creative style, they're going to be Miss Merry Christmas or Kokoro.

,,,the waists on the females in one piece are really starting to bother me now, I can no longer overlook it. Its sort of hideous.

It's what Oda is content to put forth as his artistic vision.
Whether that's from subtle sexism, unfair idealization, his own preference, or innocent weakness in designing specifically female characters: Fuck anyone who says he should do anything a certain way for any reason.

>>30499
If you have problems in your art people are free to comment on them.
Telling them to fuck off because you happen to be a fan of the artist in question is pathetic.

>>30500

He's saying Oda can do what he wants because that's the point of art and that something is not necessarily a flaw or weakness because you don't like it.

>>30444
The fight against super Hodi in the anime made it seem like he was sweating a bit. Didn't he use his super special fire-punch repeatedly to not much of an effect.

>>30501
You're saying people are not allowed to make anything less than a positive comment about an artist ever. I'm not twisting your words, that is the concept you are putting forth with such a post.
That is blatantly false.

Lucy is-

>>30505
-best Nakama.

>>30502
Anime fight filler doesn't count.

>>30503

People can say whatever they want about an artist but it doesn't make what they have to say right or valuable. Saying "This sucks, you should do this instead" isn't offering critique, it's just being a self-important jackass.

>>30509
If an artist suffers from same face syndrome you would be fair to point that out, its the same problem here with the bodies. It detracts from the of a man who is otherwise highly creative and varied in his designs.

>>30505
>>30506

The only problem I have with Oda's samey female faces and bodies is that it makes it pretty hard to theorize sometimes. Like, maybe Baby 5 and Violet are sisters because they look the same, or maybe they're actually the same person! But since all the chicks pretty much look the same then you can't really use that as evidence.

>>30517
Maybe you're not supposed to look so much into it and "theorize" so much. I dunno, the One Piece fandom tends to be really obsessive compulsive and anal about their theories and headcanons and "observations." If that's the worst thing you see out of his style..
Oda's always had a sameface problem with women; contrary to popular belief he's not perfect. Women are not his forte, it's why they're so sparsely spread. As for the body issue, they've always had fucked up hip-to-torso ratios. However, the only thing I've noticed which seems to have gotten worse is his boob-sizes. His women used to be more moderate and varied when it came to breasts. Now after the timeskip every woman is a titcow regardless of what their body type is. Which does tend to highlight the weird body proportions. Case in point this >>30497 picture. Tashigi never has those huge boobs, she was always much more moderate and slim. But lo and behold..

He also tends to suck at coloring things and lets Toei take the front seat on that deal. So yeah, Oda has a bunch of faults.

>>30525

>Maybe you're not supposed to look so much into it and "theorize" so much. I dunno, the One Piece fandom tends to be really obsessive compulsive and anal about their theories and headcanons and "observations."

Welcome to literally every work of fiction that has ever been released in more than one part. Ever. Literally ever. As long as recorded history ever.

I think speculation is pretty nice. It eventually led to things like "plot twists" and "foreshadowing," which I also enjoy.

Yeah, no. As far as anime and current serialized manga goes, One Piece fandom takes the cake for being the most pants on head insane about their theories and predictions. Go spend a few days in AP forums, then come back and tell me this is normal.

I've had people argue with me about certain possible future plot developments because, according to them, they had been studying every volume cover since the beginning and found "hidden clues" left in them from Oda.

>>30500
Ah Jesus. That's not what I meant. I even considered briefly it could be misconstrued as this and I guess I still misrepresented my point and folks wanna take a bite.
This guy got the gist >>30501
>>30503
Maybe you're not twisting them with your completely off sided altering of them into a sentence to represent what you think I said, but if that's the case then I just used the wrong words. What I was talking about has nothing to do with critique or positive or negative comments directly or indirectly to an artist, it's the lack of objectivity in art. What's good or bad is this medium most of all is subjective to every individual that consumes it.
To tell an artist to or to say that an artist should change something because you and however many others in agreement don't like it or find it lacking or whatever, or that it should be done another way is where you can fuck off.

Changing someone's expression, in this case Oda's artwork in specific of female characters, even if it offends something good like the cease of unrealistic idealization of women, is just unacceptable. No one has a right to try to do that.

Of fucking course you can say bad things about it, you have all the rights to that. And of fucking course you can't censor comments and critique and only say good things because then you settle and grow comfortable in a form that's inherently weak because you've never faced the wrongs of it. You're getting no upper hand in arguing that stupidly blatant fact.

>>30528
Y'know, maybe if you hadn't responded to someone finding the unnaturally stick-like waists and finding them creepy personally as such you wouldn't be needing to make this post now. What's the point of defending 'art' in such a manner over someone disliking one facet of the series artstyle.