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27176 No. 27176
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/676

>putting your disgusting mark over a great color page

oh, also the chapter's pretty good.
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>> No. 27177
Oh god, Franky why is your body so weird now? I'm still not able to deal with it.

Anyway, onto business. Looks like Smiley transferred his Devil Fruit over to an apple before he died. Is there a page missing? Just after chopper gets hit in the head by something.
>> No. 27178
>>27177

Why is this already a theory? it's pretty clear he just "ate"(read: absorbed) a different one THEN exploded.
>> No. 27179
>>27177
I think you might have just skipped a page, they show what it is. That Devil Fruit appearing sure is WEIRD.
>> No. 27180
>>27179

it didn't appear it was revealed, Caeser coated it in something to make it look like a regular fruit and then the coating was removed and it was absorbed by Smiley.
>> No. 27181
>>27180
The apple turned into a Devil Fruit, bro. "Coating" doesn't cover ridges and new features. And paper was tossed by Monet.

Anyway, this chapter was almost unintelligible because of the shitty translations.
>> No. 27182
Theory: It's devil fruit regeneration. We know that devil fruits respawn when their users die. What if instead of just randomly appearing somewhere else, or a tree sprouting from the users body, or whatever, the nearest fruit of the devil fruit's "type" turns into the new version of that fruit?

So, let's say Kaku dies. The banana closest to him when he died would become the new ushi ushi no mi, model giraffe. So, what would happen if the latest sara sara no mi, model axolotl was an apple? Smiley exploded right before the transformation, and the way Caesar talked implied that it counted as a death. Then, the nearest apple would transform into the axolotl fruit. It would explain why Caesar randomly decided to drive a sled full of apples up there: they were meant to "catch" the axolotl fruit. It also explains how Shinokuni could be used (and sold, with some slyness) multiple times: all you would have to do is have the fallout from the explosion "eat" the axolotl fruit again and bam, there's Smiley again, ready to explode.

This also neatly explains the partially complete illustrated devil fruit encyclopedia. If any type of fruit could hold any type of power, it would be impossible to document fruits that way. However, let's go back to the Kaku example. Suppose you put Kaku in a room full of different types of fruits, and then kill him. One of the yellow bananas near him gets spirals and turns red. You have someone eat that banana and see if they can transform into a giraffe. Repeat as many times as you feel like sciencing. Eventually, you'd be able to say with reasonable certainty that the ushi ushi no mi, model giraffe looks like a red banana. This way you wouldn't have to rely on eyewitness accounts, and you wouldn't have to travel around trying to find new devil fruits. All you would have to do is catch DF users
>> No. 27183
>>27178
Wait, I thought the thing he ate was what CC was feeding the kids, only much stronger. So instead of turning into a giant, Smiley exploded, dying and making the nearest fruit turn into his DF
>> No. 27184
>>27182
That would also explain how they make objects 'eat' Devil Fruits. They mix in a normal fruit with the material (for example in spandams sword they mixed an apple with the steel), then kill a nearby DF user with a power receivable to that fruit.

Next thing you know, you got an object with a DF power.
>> No. 27185
>>27183

He ate a large candy, most probably to change some chemicals in his body to the "new" bomb type that also turns them to stone or whatever that was, then the other devil fruit he absorbed caused him to explode thus disspelling the gas.
>> No. 27186
>>27182
This sounds about as logical as One Piece gets.

>>27185
I figure it works more like the first sample contains it.

Like, it only takes one bite to gain the powers of a devil fruit, eating the whole thing doesn't matter, so if one bite is all the transfer takes, a slash from a sword would make about as much sense.
>> No. 27187
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/34099152/5

Link to the MS translation.
With NEW fanart skipping action!
>> No. 27188
That cover has chopper wearing a top hat over a pilots cap over a top hat.

"Insert TF2 joke here"
>> No. 27189
>>27182
So it's like a bomb that explodes over and over again. All Ceaser has to do is make a giant candy and deliver it to a country in need of destruction, then send smiley after it, then collect the fruit he laid by the candy after the apocalypse has cleared out.

Pretty fucking smart. I take it the fruit jellifies the gas then. And if ceaser was nearby, he would be able to control the gasses fallout direction too, considering he can control all gas in an area.

This would also explain how Teach was able to get Whitebeards power so quickly. He probably had a fruit under his coat.
>> No. 27190
>>27189
Now all we gotta do, provided we aren't wrong, is explain why the second fruit didn't kill him.
>> No. 27191
>>27186
If that was all it took, Vegapunk wouldn't have had to discover a way to make items eat Devil Fruits. Hell, Enies Lobby would have been dealing with Kaku and his Giraffe Knife.
>> No. 27192
>>27189
>he would be able to control the gasses fallout direction too, considering he can control all gas in an area.

That's not how Logias work.

>>27190
I have a personal theory that he's somehow using his own powers on himself to cheat the system. We know Blackbeard's fruit allows him to "cancel" out other fruits, essentially making them disappear for a short time, so what if he used that on himself to create some sort of nonsensical infinity loop? He kills Whitebeard, puts a tarp over him to conceal the fact he smuggled in his own fruit which now has the Gura Gura no Mi, uses his power to make his own fruit "disappear" for a bit, and eats Whitebeard's. Bam. He switches between them, all he has to do is "cancel" out the other one.
>> No. 27193
>>27192
It's not how Logias always work, no. But Caesar's explicitly shown and explained that he does have that ability, just not to the extent that Anon's talking about here.
>> No. 27194
>>27188
Arnold watches a TF2 Match.wmvyoutube thumb
>> No. 27195
The Candy was "bait" (according to Caesar). Smiley started to act weird immediately after eating it (according to Namji) and before he ate the fruit.

Caesar goes on to say that he made it so Smiley would explode into a certain kind of gas that would paralyze victims on contact. It's the candy's doing, as Caesar (nor anyone) hasn't been shown to possess the kind of knowledge to tamper with Fruits. I really doubt that Caesar plans on marketing a weapon to people that needs two incredibly rare things to operate correctly.

Smiley didn't die before that Fruit "changed". It didn't absorb his own Devil Fruit Power that he then consumed and exploded from having two. We've never seen a panel to panel morphing of a fruit like that, Oda's really thrown us a curveball here. It could be something like it grew closer in detail until we saw it was a Devil's Fruit, but then why would it matter if Smiley was going to explode anyways as per Caesar's plan?
>> No. 27196
>>27195
>(nor anyone)
Except Vegapunk, who has at the very least been able to make inanimate objects obtain the powers of devil fruit, as we saw from Spandam's Elephant Sword.
>> No. 27197
>>27196
That's not affecting a Fruit's power or making it change or become Cursed. That's taking an (assumably!) already Cursed Fruit and implementing it into non living things. Entirely different scenario.
>> No. 27198
>>27195
>It could be something like it grew closer in detail until we saw it was a Devil's Fruit

Or.. it could be that it turned into a devil fruit. Come on, man; not that hard.
>> No. 27199
>>27198
No, it is pretty hard to accept a wild theory with absolutely no precedent.
>> No. 27200
>>27199
BECAUSE EET WAS APPLE UNTIL WE ZOOM IN ADN SEE EETS DEVIL FRUT OMG1 ODA STOP ZOOMING OUT N CHANGING TEENGS
>> No. 27201
>>27200
Technically, it was an apple until we zoomed in and it became a Devil Fruit, prick. It didn't become a Devil Fruit during the panel where it was furthest away did it? No? Right then, let's move on past your stupidity and needless caps and misspelled attempt to put words in my mouth.

As we got closer it became more detailed, yeah, it's a given. But it also did so over the course of a few zoomed in panels. So it grew those telling curls over some time, most likely.

That it just became more detailed and revealed it was a DF is the most sensible theory, I think.
>> No. 27202
and here i thought slimey just ate another devil fruit and blew up.

damn oda, be clearer with this type of stuff.
>> No. 27203
>>27201
I KNO RIGHT!
EET WAS LIEK DAT ONE CHAPTER WHEN WE SAW A TREE BUT THEN WE ZOOM IN ADN IT WAS REELY CHOPPER???! OMG ODA STOP ZOOMING LOL

ALSO DID U NOTICE ZORO LOST AN ARM AFTER TIMESKIP?? OMG NO! HE DID CUZ HE WAS MISSING ARM IN COLORSPRED!!!! QQ

You and I have vastly different definitions of "sensible", pal.
>> No. 27204
>>27203
We've also got apparent definitions of argue. Like, mine is to bring points and counter points and consider things and yours is to slam retarded /b/ level trollshit out on your keyboard. For your own sake, please stop. You only make yourself look stupid here, don't know if you realize.

And I'm not your pal, buddy.
>> No. 27205
>>27204
Yeah, no.. no - I'm the one looking stupid. Alright.
And I'm not arguing anything. If that's what you want, too bad; you're not getting it. There is no point arguing for stupid fan theory # 2204.

Especially when you're gonna be proven wrong in a matter of chapters.
>> No. 27206
Do please let us in on what you know!
>> No. 27207
Oh, the sound of nothing. Nothing more than any of the rest of us.

You know, to disregard without knowing is equally inadvisable as believing something without knowing. There's some food for thought. Keep your mouth shut while you chew :*
>> No. 27208
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27208
I legit don't even know what you guys are arguing about. Is it about the devil fruit apple?

It's not some sort of huge mystery. Like, there was a panel where it it has some lines, then the next panel it has some spirals. Then 2 panels later it has full devil fruit spirals and it's stem has changed from a curve to a curl. At first, it didn't look like a DF. Then it did.

I don't know if this clears anything up. You're welcome?
>> No. 27209
>>27208

*its

Sorry, typo.
>> No. 27211
>>27208
We're not arguing. I'm arguing but am unfortunately not receiving the pleasure of that certain Anonymous' debate.

I welcome your non-derisive input on the topic though. The mystery is why.
>> No. 27212
Gonna go with the whole Devil Fruit users transfer their ability to the nearest acceptable fruit upon death theory.

I imagine this is also part of how Blackbeard was able to retrieve Whitebeard's ability at Marineford.
>> No. 27213
Smiley was not dead when that fruit changed.

Are there any other instances in the manga that would lead to that theory's belief? Maybe a banana swirled over in the Marinford kitchen.
>> No. 27214
>>27192

Maybe Blackbeard is part fruit
>> No. 27215
>>27195
>>Caesar goes on to say that he made it so Smiley would explode into a certain kind of gas that would paralyze victims on contact. It's the candy's doing, as Caesar (nor anyone) hasn't been shown to possess the kind of knowledge to tamper with Fruits. I really doubt that Caesar plans on marketing a weapon to people that needs two incredibly rare things to operate correctly.

Yeah, that's kind of the part of this whole ordeal that points against Smiley exploding because he absorbed a second devil's fruit. If that were the case then Caesar has basically just created and immediatly wasted his Ultimate Weapon as he's now out one Smiley and two Devil's Fruits.

If Smiley's Devil's fruit powers were transferred to the apple on "death" then Caesar's ultimate weapon is renewable, he just has to congeal the gas back into a solid and feed it the fruit.
>> No. 27216
My theory is that the devil fruit you eat literally becomes a part of you, that some essence of the fruit or something remains in the body

So Blackbeard extracted this somehow and was able to add the power to his and not die because he didn't actually eat another devil fruit

or something like that I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually find out it's the good ol trope "It's magic nigga, I ain't gotta explain shit"
>> No. 27217
I don't get why Smiley has to eat a second Devil Fruit for this to work. He could explode from Caesar's bioweapon chemistry.
>> No. 27219
>>27215
He did keep saying "Reborn."
But that can be interpreted pretty widely. My take on it to go along with how Smiley wasn't dead when the fruit swirled is that he just mean the weapon be reborn, not Smiley. He wanted that explosion to come again and this time be more potent and deadly.
>> No. 27221
>>27213

It's just as likely as any other theory, considering we have no idea how devil fruits work regarding death of the user.

If there was some sort of precedent for the creation of devil fruits then yeah there might be some argument here, but you're pretty much ignoring the current most likely theory because "it sounds crazy". There's nothing wild about it at all really, it's just lacking confirmation from the horse's mouth.
>> No. 27222
>>27221
No...
No. It's lacking the fact that the main component, a Devil Fruit user dying near the fruit. How do you guys not understand that?

The statement: Smiley's powers were transferred to the nearest eligible fruit when he died.
The fact: Smiley was not dead when that fruit "changed".
The conclusion: That's not how it happens.
>> No. 27223
>>27222

If the thing wasn't already dead (which is entirely likely, stuff can leave a corpse you know), it was seconds away from dying. It exploded on the very next page. Don't dismiss it because of a vague personal interpretation of events.
>> No. 27224
Let me see if I'm following this.

Caesar Romero Clown Joker Man fed Vegapunk's leftover bioweapons an axolotl fruit.
The axolotl is a huge lump of acidic goo that explodes violently when exposed to open flame.
Meanwhile, h's been kidnapping children and feeding them growth drugs disguised as candy.
This candy somehow makes the axolotl explode.
Chucklefuck Gaspipe is now going to sell the axolotl as a bioweapon and is showing it off by blowing shit up.
An apple turned into a Devil's Fruit.
A vice-admiral who is really an agent for Doflamingo is working with Caesar Salad's harpy secretary behind his back.
Nami's tits.

Am I on the right page, here?
>> No. 27225
>>27217
he didn't eat another fruit. I don't know why it's hard for people to understand that smiley at a giant chemical candy that caused him to explode into a gas that petrifies people like pompeii. Smiley's dead yo! He didn't eat another fruit, he ate a ball of chemical shit.

Then his axotyl fruit transfers to the closest fruit. Ceaser can either congeal some of the leftoever gas and feed it the fruit, or he can create a new gas and feed it the fruit.
>> No. 27226
>>27224
yeah. It's possible Doflamingo knows about virgo working with ceaser octavius though. Hell, doflamingo could be funding this project.

What we don't know: What Trafalgar's doing on this island, where's his crew, what yonkou does he want to take out, what a nobles dragon is doing on the island and please, tell me, how smiley's gas rendered brownbeards crews legs useless. So far, all I've seen it do is kill folk and explode.

Oh, and what are the yeti cool brothers? Usually, if somethings sentient, it has a race. Are they giants then?
>> No. 27227
>>27223
It's not a vague interpretation of events to see a thing is not dead. You're grasping at straws.

>>27225
Still hinges on Smiley's power transferring to a fruit BEFORE his death. Something we've never seen (but may be some janky possibility, someone find that question to Oda in an SBS about if a Fruit's power goes back into 'circulation' on their death or something. I feel like he's talked about this before.), and opens up tons of holes for looping. Grab a Fruit Brook, seconds before you die it'll get your power and just eat it again! And if it did absorb his power, how did he still have his Axoltl form? Were there two isntances of that Fruit at once? I feel like we may have been Word of God'd that that's not possible.

Now here's a different idea. Why does it have to be Smiley's particular power? If it was some kind of super plan by Caesar to leave a valuable and key item to his weapon's success within 10 feet of its nuclear blast radius so he could remake it, why couldn't he have just kept it the only fruit on the island safe inside his lab? A complete arctic waste and constant blazing hell don't seem like they'd have fruit and with his meticulous measures he could have made sure it was the sole seed bearing tree borne entity.

And WHY would he have put it on a sled in a feed bag that was being pulled by a large animal itself that would require feeding?
>> No. 27228
>>27222
>The fact: Smiley was not dead when that fruit "changed".
Except it seems pretty clear from what CC is saying that he's either dead or dying right as the fruit is morphing.
http://img.mangastream.com/m/51/34099152/527be0bea1da063598ec2fb909671bea.png
>> No. 27230
>>27228
That "Let us meet again" and the next panel being that fruit really do a convincing job of pressing that Caesar knows or has something planned. Just from those I'd think and agree that he did something on purpose.

Oda's really thrown us a curveball...
>> No. 27231
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27231
>>27227

Moments before he explodes he bellows and stops moving. What is this panel for, right in the middle of the fruit's transformation, if not to show that the fucker died? Right on the panel as the fruit is shown fully changed, Caeser says "We'll meet again", plainly hinting that this was the intended outcome and he can retrieve it to remake smiley at some point.

You're the one grasping at straws by trying to claim these events are somehow not related despite EVERYTHING indicating the contrary. There is no argument here, you're basically just trying to say it's a red herring.
>> No. 27232
Your expertise in artistically rendered giant goo monsters in the shape of aquatic organisms and their biology is astonishing to be able to so aptly spot the moment it perishes.

One of my ideas is that it is a red herring, yeah. Complete coincidence and usual Oda unpredictability. If it turns out to be completely insignificant for another 500 chapters until we see that the gas is back from absorbing the random fruit in the dragon's food pouch it hadn't eaten already then it'll be so.
>> No. 27233
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27233
>>27207
>Oh, the sound of nothing. Nothing more than any of the rest of us.

>He seriously thinks I'm gonna stick around this place to argue his retard zooming theories

ODA STOP UR ZOOMIN NDA CONFUZIN PEOPLE!!!!! CARIBOO 4 NAKAMA
>> No. 27234
>>27217
He didn't eat a second fruit. Nothing in this chapter said or showed him eating a second fruit, just a giant candy supposedly designed to make him explode and/or die.
>> No. 27237
What if you ate a devil fruit thats power was to turn you into a devil fruit

and then someone ate you
>> No. 27238
>>27232
>Your expertise in artistically rendered giant goo monsters in the shape of aquatic organisms and their biology is astonishing to be able to so aptly spot the moment it perishes.

u sho talk funny
>> No. 27239
>>27233
I missed you.
>> No. 27240
So. If the fruit has the same powers Smiley had. Ceasers plans are clear.

1. Kidnap children from all around the ocean, make them larger.
2. Get them addicted to candy to control, experiment, condition them.
3. Feed fruit to children.
4. Return children to their homes.
5. Give them the candy Smiley ate.
6. Since the kids are large they explode in large range, killing anyone on their home island.
>> No. 27241
It could probably go either way to be honest. I think we're just going to have to wait a week for answers.Until then I'm going with "Smiley died shortly before exploding and his power transferred into the nearest apple" but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong
>> No. 27242
>>27239
Maybe it's cause you were zoomed out too much, and I looked like an apple.
>> No. 27243
>this chapter
>how weapons of mass destruction work

The process is convoluted and dumb. Why can't Caesar make artificial devil fruits without the "anchor" effect or even find a way to make the devil fruit bomb idea be more practical? all this it transferred over after eating candy and thus can be recycled is ughh.
>> No. 27244
>>27243

>>The process is convoluted and dumb. Why can't Caesar make artificial devil fruits without the "anchor" effect or even find a way to make the devil fruit bomb idea be more practical?

Because Caesar's an incompetent buffoon. Dude is good at poison gas and that's it
>> No. 27245
>>27243
None of this has been done to "make devil fruits", that's just a nice bonus side effect he's also worked on. The weapon's purpose is to cover an island in a killing vapor. Period.

Remember how they talked about the island being covered in a gas that paralyzed his goons until Caesar came along and harnessed it? That's the purpose of Smiley. He's the pure amalgamation of all that poison gas that was from a failed Vegapunk experiment. He brings all the poison together, "feeds" it a devil fruit (in this case the axolotl) to give it movement and a mind, gives it a drug that causes it to die (and thus being released again in its original form), and lets the gas flood the island paralyzing everything. After a while, Caesar goes out, grabs the new axolotl devil fruit made after death, and repeats the process all over again by feeding it to the gas.
That's the weapon and "rebirth" process he talked about; he'll literally do this rinse and repeat cycle over and over by selling Smiley to the highest broker bidder.
>> No. 27246
Amended with: "Or so I believe."
>> No. 27247
>>27246
Or so you'd realize if you've been paying any sort of attention to what's going on.

Of course you haven't, cause you're too zoomed out to notice the details.
It's a bird.It's a plane.No, it's an apple
>> No. 27248
You know, when you zoom out enough, everything looks like an apple.
Even me, and you. THINK ABOUT IT.
>> No. 27249
>>27226
>Oh, and what are the yeti cool brothers? Usually, if somethings sentient, it has a race. Are they giants then?

...Go and google "yeti".
>> No. 27250
>>27249
Yeah, but if something is a monster, it doesn't speak english or anything, such as the dragon or sea kings. We're seen a list of species in One piece that included fishmen, giants, longs arms, long legs, snake necks, mermen, and humans.

If it's sentient, it can be a slave. I didn't see Yeti anywhere.

Oda usually gives effort into explaining things like pappug, I was hoping he'd explain the yeti cool bros too. You can't just say they're 'yetis' in my opinion.
>> No. 27251
>>27247
More that I'd realize if we were shown the great lengths of fan created fiction written in that post. It's several lines of leaping assumptions and that ever so present and sickening tone of "it's absolutely correct blahdy blah this is what I think but I'll state it as fact and truth despite it not being either yet if it will ever."
>> No. 27252
>>27250
Since "yeti" is in their title, I certainly can.
>> No. 27253
>>27250
What is Gecko Moria for that matter? If it becomes important to the story, we'll find out, otherwise we just count these sorts of characters as "Weirdos" until that time.
>> No. 27254
>>27253
Moriah's past selves are all human shapes, legs and chin and all, albeit he was still probably as humongous as he still is, just not fat.

The freaky stitch job and out of shapeness is because Kaidou REALLY fucked him up.
>> No. 27255
>>27250
Pappug needs an explanation for him to talk because starfish can't talk.
But who says a yeti can't?
>> No. 27256
>>27182
If that's the case, it would explain half of how Blackbeard got the devil fruit out of Whitebeard. He had a bunch of fruit, or the fruit he needed, with him, and just ate it using whatever ability he has to take two in his body at a time.

And, if it's true, Ace's fruit is probably in Marineford or somewhere nearby.
>> No. 27257
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27257
>>27251
But.. almost all of that has been stated through the course of this arc. Or alluded to in dialogue. Or even plainly shown. You're quite defensive and hostile for someone who's clearly not paying any sort of attention to what's going on.
Granted my assumption Smiley's died is obviously just that - an educated assumption based on what they'be been talking about for chapters now - but this is where you need to sort the insane fan theories (like Big Mom being the giant dragon or Vergo knocking everyone out with his haki) from the ones that make more sense and have proof behind them.

Incidentally, did you know if you zoom into this picture far enough you'll slowly start to see Jinbe? It's true, it's true. Oda is a mad genius!
>> No. 27258
>>27199
>No, it is pretty hard to accept a wild theory with absolutely no precedent.
I find your theory of Oda zooming in on an apparently random devil fruit in a bag while Smiley exploded more wild than the theory that it was smiley's DF that regenerated when Smiley died from the candy.

CC even said Smiley was being 'reborn'.
>> No. 27259
>>27258
Not to mention, there was just more than enough room to draw the details on that Devil Fruit. It wasn't zooming in so we could see it better: it was clearly changing and drawing the lines in.
>> No. 27260
>>27256
...hiken no coby?
>> No. 27261
You are completely correct Penguin. Looking back at the panels that people have cropped and put here, like I said above I'm sure at some point, it was at the same place while the swirls were growing.

In the end I think everyone else is wrong, but so am I. We'll see what's really going on when Oda shows us :)
>> No. 27262
>In the end I think everyone else is wrong, but so am I

You're such a class act. Bravisimo.
>> No. 27263
Im just glad Spreeses isnt still around to say something really stupid
>> No. 27264
>>27263
Well thank you for your input, Glad to know that even though Spreeses has been gone for 3 months, you still won't shut your fucking yap!

Congratulations! You chased away a guy with assburgers who genuinely enjoyed the series and simply wanted to share his ideas with us, awful as they may have been, by being an even bigger assburger who can't seem to enjoy the series due to his hateboner for a guy who did! AND YOU ARE STILL SHIT TALKING HIM ON THE INTERNET!

GOOD FOR YOU!
>> No. 27265
What happened to Spreeses?

And who the fuck is Spreeses?
>> No. 27266
>>27265
He was a regular namefag who used to post all kinds of wild theories that were usually pretty batshit. He was pretty alright, kinda bummed he got scared off.

>>27263
So you're here to take over the job? Because that's a really good start.
>> No. 27267
>>27265
A crazy dooshbag followed him around all of Plus4, accusing people of being Spreeses even before Spreeses even dropped his name, he hounded him across boards until he finally left Plus4 to Anon on 4chan.

Spreeses is just a really excitable guy who was imaginative in a kind of batshit crazy fan theory way, no one really cared and while everyone panned the shit out of his theories only one dooshbag took it seriously.
>> No. 27271
I just want this arc to be over soon and get some down time with the crew.

These guys took 2 years of their lives and trained their asses off in hopes of being stronger for each other, I wanna see some bonding and get some feels going so I can reconnect with the crew as a whole again
>> No. 27272
>>27271
While down time would be nice, they are spending quality time together as is. It's just quality time with a lot of stuff going on.
>> No. 27273
>>27272
I know they are and they have had some good moments already, its just that things have been going a million miles an hour and have no sign of slowing down. Maybe the anime will give us a nice chilled out filler arc
>> No. 27274
We already had like 2 or 3 chapters of them hanging out while going down to Fishman Island. Then another 3 or so after defeating Hody with the banquet and floating to the surface. What more do you want? I always hear people say they want more time for them to hang out and interact, but that was fairly rare pre-timeskip, too. I think the most vacation time they got off was after Enies Lobby, and that was only about 3 or 4 chapters if I remember right.

But I do agree that this arc needs to finish up soon. While I like what's going on and the new characters of Caesar and Monet and all that, I think it should not have been this long. He usually breaks up big arcs with a smaller one in between; Punk Hazard is starting to get a bit long in the tooth.
>> No. 27275
>>27274
Is it really that long? It doesn't feel like it.
>> No. 27276
>>27274
Is it really that long? It doesn't feel like it.
>> No. 27277
>>27275
>>27276

It's probably all the breaks.
>> No. 27278
>>27277
No, it's the simple fact Oda made this arc a lot longer than it needed to be. The "talking" dragon? Yeti Cool Brothers? The subsequent fight with them? Smoker?! I mean they were all nice things, but if you think about it, they added nothing to the story except stretching and padding.
>> No. 27279
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27279
>>27274

Punk Hazard has been 22 chapters dude. That's like, a bit less than half of Thriller Bark.

Honestly you guys have no sense of (time) scale nowadays. Gotta go faster no slower no rush through the arc no slow down and relax no this no that! You all just gotta learn to chill.
>> No. 27280
>>27278

Correction. You THINK they added nothing to the story, which might be true. But I wouldn't bet on it.
You would think a veteran One Piece reader would know better than to declare something pointless immediately, by now.
>> No. 27281
>>27279
I'd have no problem with the size of PH if it wasn't for the fact we JUST now came out of a massive arc that was slower than molasses. And like I said earlier, Oda always splits big arcs with smaller ones. One big, one small, one big, one small; that's how it's always been with the possible exception of Water 7 and Enies Lobby.

>>27280
Mayhaps I can have a more clear judgement when this arc ends, but as it stands, none of these elements have done much.
>> No. 27282
Do they really need to add that much to the story? Fun stuff for the sake of it isn't really something new to One Piece, and it's not like they've been wastes of time.
>> No. 27283
>>27281

With the possible exception of everything after the cp9 saga, you mean. After small (Jaya), big (Skypeia), small (Davy Back), big (CP9), we had medium (Thriller), small (Sabaody), small (Amazon), medium (Impel Down), bigger-medium (Marineford), clusterfuck (everything after the war), then big (Fishman). We haven't been on a regular pattern in like 4 to 6 years. Heck, you could split up CP9 into Water 7, Enies Lobby, Water 7, which would be medium-medium-small. It just seems like the pattern has been pretty broken down for a while is all I'm saying.

>Mayhaps I can have a more clear judgement when this arc ends

Sorry dude, it might be more like "10 years from now." Them's the breaks when it comes to OP. See you in the 20's.
>> No. 27284
Do we really need a pattern? Its all plot.
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