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26962 No. 26962
More set-up and speculations. Oooh~

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>> No. 27035
>>27034
Can you not read?

>>27025
>> No. 27036
So the dunmbass with the witty cave insult says that Sabo's confirmed dead and has no source? Shocker.
>> No. 27037
Enough shitposting over this

I'm interested as to what they're going to do with Kidd. Unless he's gained some unique new control over his power or has some trick, Kidd still comes off as extremely reliant on his environment to me. He sunk two of Big Mom's ships but they of course had tons of metal on board. What's he gonna do if he ends up fighting in a forest or some shit?


Also, have there been any Kidd Magneto shops?
>> No. 27038
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27038
THIS IS ONE PIECE GREEN: SECRET PIECES

THIS IS A DATABOOK WRITTEN BY EIICHIRO ODA

IT IS WRITTEN IN HERE THAT THE CHARACTER KNOWN AS "SABO" LOST HIS LIFE DURING THE "TENRYUUBITO INCIDENT"

YOU NOW HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR BEING FUCKING RETARDED

>> No. 27041
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27041
Apparently this is the panel where it says "Sabo was bombarded by the Celestial Dragons and lost his life" in the databook, or something. I'm willing to accept it, but a SBS would clinch it for me. Oda's track record with off-screen deaths and that scene (which seems really strange if he is dead) has me brushing the fence.

It is just a theory though, nothing to get our jimmies rustled over since its not all that important right now.

Wonder what Chopper is going to pull off.
>> No. 27044
>>27037
In the post-timeskip designs for the Supernovas, it looks like Kidd could've had his left arm replaced by a robotic one. He could use it as portable metal.
>> No. 27047
Man, Luffy was already pretty powerful pre timeskip and the stuff he can do now is insane.

So why has he already nearly bled to death and been easily knocked out? Instead of seeing him dominate a bit before shit gets real in the New World he's been conveniently defeated a couple times already.
>> No. 27049
>>27047
He still needs to breathe you wanker.

And he did dominate Hodi even when the other was hopped up on super steroids and had the terrain advantage, fighting UNDERWATER an all.
And still the only reason he got the massive bleeding wound and strained it so much was because he was more focused on stopping the GINORMOUS ship from destroying Fishman Island than fighting Hodi.
>> No. 27050
>>27049
You didn't hear? Once they hit level 100 in their training they no longer have any need for oxygen. Giant shark man biting through your body? Mere flesh wounds.
>> No. 27058
>>27047
It wouldn't be any fun if Luffy was able to easily beat anyone he came across.

Especially against devil-fruit users whose powers are beyond what Luffy can imagine. It also shows that haki isnt the answer to the really experienced devil-fruit users.
>> No. 27062
>Chopper and Robin

just fuck already
>> No. 27064
>>27062
What? They... they didn't even interact this chapter. What are you referring to?
>> No. 27065
>>27062
I know, I'm just referring in general, this is a slow ass board so at this point I was just bringing up the manga period. I've been skimming through the timeskip chapters.

On another topic, what happens when Chopper is in water or sea stone cuffs? Would he revert to a basic reindeer temporarily without the ability to think like a human?
>> No. 27066
>>27065
Whenever they've pulled him out (after diving in like a retard after the others) he's just been in that small form. I don't think it's shown him while in the sea specifically.
>> No. 27067
>>27065
He can still think in Brain Point, but he's completely paralyzed like everybody else. It did revert him to Brain Point from Monster Point in Enies Lobby, so I guess it just brings him down to his weakest self.
>> No. 27069
>>27065
>>27067
It's been established that powers still work when exposed to the Sea, the DF user just loses the ability to move. Presumably Chopper transformed back because the Rumble Ball's effect ended, rather than the sea doing anything to him--but we know that, for example, Luffy's body can still be stretched by non-DF users who go grab him, so it's no surprise Chopper can still think like a human.

That said, I do wonder what would happen to Brooke, now that we know his DF power actually gives him power over his soul. Would he be able to astrally project himself, even though he can't move his body?
>> No. 27070
>>27069
I don't think he'd be able to focus himself enough for that. At least we know that jumping in water doesn't simply KILL him.
>> No. 27071
>>27069
>Chopper transformed back because the Rumble Ball's effect ended, rather than the sea doing anything to him

Then what was the point of pushing into the water?
>> No. 27072
>>27071
Keep him from moving until that happened? Nothing's down in stone, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt if you like, but it was just my understanding that the sea didn't actually cancel out DF powers. There might be something deeper to it though--maybe it doesn't cancel out permanent transformations (i.e. Luffy being turned to rubber, Brooke being turned to a spirit inhabiting his old body, Chopper being turned into a reindeer-man), but does cancel out temporary / willful transformations, i.e. a Zoan assuming a non-default form or a Logia assuming elemental form.

...but if Chopper's default form is now Reindeer-Man and that's why he didn't transform into a regular reindeer, wouldn't that mean that being dunked in the sea or exposure to sea prism stone should turn all Zoans into their hybrid forms instead of their original forms?

Urghh. Let's just say it does whatever Oda needs it to at the time and be done with it, huh?
>> No. 27073
>>27071
...Because DF's users are paralysed when immersed in the Sea? Have you even read this series?

>>27072
Why are you losing the rag about this? You're making it much more complicated than it needs to be
>> No. 27074
>>27073
Yes I know that, thats why I replied to the part where he said the sea didn't do anything.
>> No. 27077
>>27072
The sea doesn't cancel out latent powers or changes, like having a rubber body or being alive. But you're fucked over by it, it paralyzes and knocks the DF user out pretty much immediately upon full submersion. It makes you as weak as possible, and would probably bring any other Zoan to their human form. It just fucks you up, in every way it can.

But Chopper's different, and they treat his Brain Point as his base form rather than his reindeer form. So he changed into that instead.
>> No. 27078
>>27062
Disgusting pedo-furry shit.

STAY OUT OF MY TOWN.
>> No. 27079
>>27078
Pedo? Chopper is an ADULT reindeer. A MATURE adult reindeer at that, given that they usually live to 20 at the most.
>> No. 27080
>>27078
Must you stir up crap?
>> No. 27081
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>>27079
>mfw I forgot that he may have an animal's life span

b-but he'll live as long as a human cause of the Zoan fruit right
>> No. 27082
I seem to recall Oda saying he has a human life span because of the fruit, I could be totally making that up though.
>> No. 27083
reindeer only live like 17 years max guys

preeeetty sure chopper's lifespan's been extended
>> No. 27084
This should be a SBS question.
>> No. 27085
>>27079
A matured reindeer that more often then not behaves like a five year old child. He's smart but easily one if not the most childish strawhats.
>> No. 27086
>>27085
>if not the most childish strawhats.
Allow me to introduce you to a man named Monkey D. Luffy.
>> No. 27087
>>27086
Second most childish then.

In fact let's rank these from most to least childish.
Luffy
Chopper
Usopp
Brook
Franky
Sanji
Nami
Zoro
Robin

That sound about right?
>> No. 27088
>>27087

Zoro is way more childish than Nami. Just because he's more stoic about it doesn't negate it. And I think Chopper is more kid-like than Luffy, but only a little
>> No. 27089
>>27085
It seems like Oda has gone a bit overboard with his childlessness. I was skimming through old chapters and watching old episodes and Chopper seemed to talk more seriously or at least be calm at times, though he was still generally childish as he should be, and his body was a bit bigger.

Now, he's as mini and cutesy as ever, and when he's not in a different form than his mini form, he's either screaming about something, crying about something or being amazed at something, I find it a bit jarring that he's this intelligent doctor yet he never seems to be not childish as hell anymore.

I wanna see more of the chilled Chopper who can for a nice walk to a book store or read once in a while and less drooling over Franky and screaming. I'm hoping the anime has some filler episodes or arcs in the future with that.
>> No. 27090
>>27089
They haven't really had much time to do "explore the town/chill out on the deck" momments. Its been one thing after another since leaving Sabaody.
>> No. 27092
>>27089
But drooling over Franky is awesome!
I pretty much do it whenever Franky unleashes anything new as well, and it is a fucking awesome feeling. By far one of the best Strawhats for showing off things.

'Tis a shame he doesn't get as much fans as he deserves. (I thought I heard something about him ranking the lowest in polls featuring Strawhat popularity?)
>> No. 27093
>>27092
yeah I'm pretty sure he's the lowest which is bullshit, he's such a glorious bastard

I like all of the Straw Hats, its whats kept me around, its one of the best group of characters I've ever seen, but Brooke has done the least for me. He's funny at times for sure and his back story is generally alright but LABOOOOON being his motivation is pretty lame, he tried so hard to make me care about Laboon but I just can't, there are so many wonderful, memorable characters that I just can't give any fucks about a whale I long since forgot about.
>> No. 27094
>>27089
He just had that scene where he snapped at Brownbeard after putting together the fact that the "candy" was really drugs.
>> No. 27095
>>27093
All of Brook's friends are dead, only one that's alive is a whale and damn it Brook is a guy who is going to look after his friends. Laboon's constant and numerous scars are a reminder that Laboon wants to see his dear friends too. It's not so much Laboon is important, it's Brook and Laboon's friendship that matters so much, and the fact that it can still exist is a great motivation. One Piece is about the bonds of NAKERMERS after all.

I really like Brook, he's such a unique/strange character but there's so much draw and sympathy you can feel for him. In most other manga Brook would be a "joke" character with little depth and motive to him, but Oda crafts a character in such a way that you can feel emotionally attached to singing afro skeletons and speedo cyborgs.

That being said I really do think I like all the Strawhats, which is a feat in it's own. To have the entire main cast being likable, I mean.
>> No. 27105
>>27092
>>27093
I really don't understand why Franky would rank lower than someone like Sanji or Zoro. I will never understand fanboys' fascination with these two characters. Zoro and Sanji to me are some of the flattest people when it comes to their attacks, what they do and how they act. Sanji spent all of Fishman Island being unbearably annoying and Zoro is just.. boring. At least Franky has whacky and creative attacks.
>> No. 27106
>>27105
They're some of the most powerful and 'centered' characters, so naturally they have tons of fans. It's the same in every shonen.
>> No. 27107
Them being part of the crew way longer than him doesn't hurt either.
>> No. 27108
I find Zoro's character really neat, but I feel like not enough is done with him, he just beats people he has no real interaction with.

Like, Luffy fights the strongest sure, but by that point it's Luffy against some kind of personified obstacle.

Like just grabbing Fishman Island as an example Luffy wants to catch up with Jinbei, Brook and Sanji are subsumed with Fin fever having long dreamed of Mermaids, Chopper is put through the ringer trying to keep Sanji alive and is shocked to discover a denial of treatment based on race, Nami is able to let go of her past with the fishmen, Robin uncovers a HUGE chunk of the history she has spent her life uncovering, Franky essentially meets his Uncle.

Those are some pretty big stakes, Zoro's stakes being non-existent, yeah he's a fighter but he's so cut off from the connections and things going on it's hard for me to care about him.

With this new story line I'm hoping Zoro has a bigger part than a LOT of the past arcs because of his newly sparked interest.
>> No. 27109
>>27108
I hate to be the one to tell you this but Zoro is kind of a simple character.
>> No. 27110
>>27108
Zoro'll likely get a bigger part here, but really the above guy is right. Zoro's simple: he likes food and drink, and he cares about his crew. But he doesn't think about most anything, and he has a big thing for self-reliance so he doesn't think about what OTHERS need any more than he does for himself. Hell, before he met Luffy Zoro would just wander East Blue and survive by chopping up monsters that tried to eat him. His lack of direction and laziness is what makes HIM stand out and be fun to work with compared to the rest of the crew, it's just also... sort of troublesome.
But I mean, come on. Mourning his sword with Brook, getting nagged at by Nami, bitching at Sanji, his odd respect for Chopper without EVER listening to what he says... it's not like he does nothing or doesn't have interesting interactions like the rest. They're just... Zoro interactions.
>> No. 27111
He's a mellow kind of dude.
>> No. 27113
I think Zoro's best dialogue was when he confronted Luffy about what it means to be a captain during the Usopp incident.
>> No. 27116
>>27113
Yeah, that took me by surprise but it had to be done. For 1.They couldn't let Usopp back into the crew just like that after the fight him and Luffy had. That would be just bad, spapy writing. And 2. someone had to step up to the plate and tell Luffy what's what when it comes to being the captain of a crew. It's a good thing it was Zoro, who's second-in-command.
>> No. 32759
>bumping thread from 2012

why?
>> No. 32760
>>32759
There's a spambot going around the boards. Deleting spam doesn't result in unbumped threads, hence the random bumps.
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