The 12th Doctor got leaked.

>>37466
I like the idea. The Gentleman Brawler he can use his fists but he declines to do so. He must wear a Bowler hat of course.

>>37467
THE RETURN OF VENUSIAN AIKIDO!

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/former-doctor-who-actor-arthur-darvill-says-helen/309474

http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/rory-kinnear-offered-12th-doctor-50436.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/10094072/Whos-next-The-favourites-to-replace-Matt-Smith-as-the-12th-Doctor-Who.html

Looks like everyone has a fave they want to see in the booth.

>>37660
I would be all kinds of okay with Ben Whishaw.

>>37665
Yea I could see him in the role maybe like a young Pertwee

I'm holding out for someone black, female, or ginger. Or a mixture of the aforementioned two.

Or heck, have a female playing an androgynous Doctor.

>>37672
Oh for a total androgynous female Doctor I want Murray.

i think an androgynous sort of doctor would be really sexy but it doesnt fucking matter as long as moffats still the showrunner

>>37674
So David Bowie?

>>37683
Or Tilda Swinton. Either of the two, really.

>>37688
You bastard. I want this now. Isn't she a ginger as well?

And news from the Classic Era, it looks like someone might have found and is sending a massive amount of the missing episodes to the BBC.

>>37724
Nash said last night on Radio Dead Air that this was a hoax, and that he was so mad, he was going to shit on the soul of the person responsible for starting it.

>>37725
seems to be one guy holding out hope this incoming haul contains the good stuff.

https://twitter.com/IanLevine

Wait, so The Silence wanted to kill The Doctor to protect him from a fate worse than death?

>>sister loves Douglas Adams
>>sister has watched a good chunk of both Classic and New Who
>>begs me to buy Who swag at comic book conventions
>>sister won't read the comics because "they're too geeky, I'm not a geek"

I hate to explain you a thing, but...

>>37466
CAN YOU SMELL? WHAT THE DOC! IS COOKING???

>>37842
something something tardsis would have exploded if clara weren't there something something planets would die... something something... doctor would have killed more and been more of a villain if the great intelligence had his way something something i don't fucking know moffat is consistent most with single story narratives while his arcs are... fucked up

>>37674
So I'm guess the quality hasn't risen at all? I stopped watching Dr.Who after a few episodes of moffat and was hoping he'd be replaced...

>>38187
Totally hasn't and the level of fucks about Who stuff has dropped significantly.

>>38195
Why do that keep him as showrunner anyway? I'd totally be up for 13 being female if we could get Rhianna Pratchett to do some writing for the show and get a decent runner.

>>38202
Why does she get so much praise anyway? She's got a strong pedigree but unless she's also been doing a lot of low profile stuff I'm not aware of, Tomb Raider is her only decent work (maybe Bioshock: Infinite, but much of that was the other guys). All her other games were mediocre at best.

>>38206
She's improved on her narrative and does a pretty good job with character driven stuff. There is a reason I'm saying she could be writer for 13 and not 12 since I think she just needs a bit more time writing to really get things down. Also to see if her plains for Lara Croft come about as she wants and how she handles that in the next few years.

>>37849
FINALLY! THE DOC! HAS COME BACK! TO PELADON!!!

So word is the announcement for next Doctor will come on Sunday.

>>37849
His first adventure is on the planet Jabroni.

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/26724/doctor-who-peter-capaldi-running-favourite-for-12th-doctor

current betting looks to have this fella in the lead

>>38339
....Oh man he's gross looking and not Matt Smith gross looking where it is sorta cute.

>>38340
At last, we're back to the Doctor accurately portraying the British male.

>>38339
>Asshole guy from In The Loop playing The Doctor.

FUCK YEAH ALL RIGHT.

http://www.geekosystem.com/12th-doctor-spoiler-maybe/

now that would be an intresting turn. Mainly for the rage that would come from the base over such a departure even more than a change in gender or race.

Oh my god if Capaldi gets the spot I would actually watch Dr Who just for him. He was a glorious genius in The Thick of It.

>>38340
I dunno man, there's something weirdly attractive about him in TToI. Maybe it's the natural swearing talent.

>>38356
Looks like you are watching it.

http://mashable.com/2013/08/04/new-doctor-who/

I'm glad they picked an older fella, get some of that classic Doctor grump in there.

oh, goody. i do like capaldi. malcolm tucker is who i want to be when i grow up.

>>12 is a dude I don't know
>>isn't a POC or female

>>38361

As long as it's not a female character waiting to be mishandled by a certain fat, I'm not going to complain.

>>38363
I never thought he mishandled the female characters. Except for River, but I just thought she was kind of a jerk sometimes.

>>38361
The fuck is a POC?

>>38368
Person of colour ie anyone who isn't white.

so what the fuck is Hurt doing?

>>38373
Doc from somewhere between 8 and 9, most likely was the incarnation to pull the trigger on the time war.

>>38368
Term used by SJW to refer to nonwhites because they don't realize they aren't a massive gestalt.

>>38374
See, I would have thought something akin to the Valeyard or something. Because I'm pretty sure McGann is put down as the definitive Doctor to be in the Time War; granted I may need to double check on that...

...huh

>>38376
It's not set in stone yet, it's just what Hurt's costume designer said.

http://youtu.be/5Blf073f2Lc

if this isn't exactly what the show will be like i'm not watching it

>>38375
>>38370
I'm not a SJW. I just adopted the term because it's easier than saying "minority" or because sometimes, when people think of casting, they think "Caucasians and African-Americans", not that there's people of other ethnicities beyond those.

While I am getting tired of really long-running franchises not looking to branch out into different groups, he is older. And for a franchise that usually aims for "younger and sexier", that is a plus. And I'm glad he's British. If they did an American Doctor, I'd rather another shitty attempt at an American series.

>>38380
I think instead of people wanting to change the doctor they really need to bring back more Time Lords AND NOT RIVER. Cripes I'm tired of her and hope the end of 11 means the end of her.

>>38381
You can change The Doctor's ethnicity or gender, and The Doctor will still, at his or her core, be the same person. Heck, every Doctor, regardless of actor, still has the same basic qualities at their core.

I want to see other Time Lords or the Time War, but I feel like after all this time, actually saying what went on to make the Doctor who he was would make a lot of people pissed off, because they all have their own headcanons for what happened.

>>38382
And I know of a good number that would do well. I think the biggest stumble they have for it is making it believable within the show itself. Classic who had some of the idea being the regeneration was partly influenced by the genetics around him at the time of the process IIRC but as 11 noted it can also be choice? I dunno it would as I said take a new writing staff to make it really work well I think because currently we'd just end up with River 2.0. I was just thinking as a compromise so people don't just grumble for the next few years and to beat the whole 13 max if that is still in effect Have another Time lord that can transfer their regenerations to him and do a bit of genetic whatnot that leads to alternate choices.

So the general reaction to 12's announcement is resounding disappointment from all-sides except people who liked him in other stuff stuff apparently, sidebar on that most people who like him and know Moffat are sad for him.

Am I the only one who's happy that the 12th doctor isn't gonna be another typical handsome guy?

>>38387
Right here. Can't wait to see how the fan girls react.

>>38388
He'll be their husbando in short order. People complained that Matt Smith looked weird for a while after his reveal too.

>>38387
I am okay with it, though I wanted an unattractive lady.

>>38388
Confusion and disappointment rather than anger, also pointing out that he breaks the pattern as most incarnations of the doctor have been getting younger.

Although just about everyone fucking HATES Moffat now since he said this:
“People tell me the new Doctor should be a woman, and to that I say it’s time for the queen to be a man"

Even people who didn't really want a change in the Doctor don't like him now, plus his writing is garbage.

>>38392
He still does to me and I would probably consider him the ugliest Doc in recent decades. I still like him though.

>>38394
For me it's because he seems to lack eyebrows sometimes and it's a bit unsettling. I like him best of the new series Doctors despite that.

With the Facial Hair he reminds me of the Unofficial Doctor Peter Cushing played.

>>38393
The difference is that the Queen already has a male equivalent. The Doctor doesn't.

>>38393
The difference is that the Queen already has a male equivalent. The Doctor doesn't have a female one.

>>38405
Also sort of a silly statement to make since the next monarch will be a man. Assuming there's not a sudden outbreak of Deadly And Fast-Acting Prostate Cancer among the royal family sometime soon.

>>38393
I will never understand why people are so deadset on a female doctor. We've seen the shit they do with River Song. Do you really want an excuse for Moffat to make someone like that as the main character?

>>38408
theres a part of me that wants to see Moffat do a female doctor.

so i can just sit back and say "this is what you wanted. this is what you asked for"

>>38408
I think it's less about anyone wanting any particular doctor and more of a unified hatred of Moffat.

....Didn't everyone love Moffat when he took over...?

>>38413
I didn't.

But only cause I've never cared for any of the writers any more or less than any other.

>>38413
Everyone thought he'd be great because his one off episodes were fun.

Unfortunately when given reign over plots and directions he's a fucking idiot and his stories devolve to gibberish.

Plus he's vastly overstayed his welcome.

>>38385
>So the general reaction to 12's announcement is resounding disappointment from all-sides
Sez who, grasshopper? Everyone I know seems very positive about the casting.

You've got to realise, the "people who liked him in other stuff" are more than a few aficionados in a shed. Malcolm Tucker is a major household name over here in Blighty. I, for one, am very excited to see what Capaldi does with the role.

>>38420
The disappointment is from people who were hoping for Moffat to announce stepping down/new writers/were hoping for something new.

Capaldi himself is seen as being a good choice since the Doctor has been getting way more cynical in direction.

I think the overwhelming "meh" is from people who:

1. Were convinced having a non-white or female Doctor for Twelve was a given, because fans said it would be so, and enough fan speculation sometimes makes a fandom convinced it'll actually happen
2. Didn't realize they'd seen him in an episode already, and not being English/not having seen World War Z, didn't give a fuck and wanted someone they knew well already

Overall I'm pleased since we get crabby old doctor and regardless of companion the first thought of the base won't be "Love Interest". Any possible resurgence of old childhood Doctor makes me happy.

>>38425
Dude, Matt Smith is fucking weird looking, they will be all OVER Capaldi.

>>38426
Yea already seeing a bunch of things about girls swooning over the older gent. Guess one can't help when they are the Doctor these days I guess.

Are we running out of doctors at this point.
Don't Time Lords only regenerate so many times.

>>38434
Yup, 12 times.

There are cheats though, A timelord can give another one their regenerations leaving that giver with only one life to live or they can kill and take the regenerations.

I'm not sure if the Doctor is still on twelve regenerations since River gave him all of hers to cure his poisoning, so that's a little grey rigt now but since Moffat wrote it seems likely.

>>38435
Actually thinking about it if that's right River used three of her regenerations that puts the Doctor 10 provided River was playing with a full deck of Time Lord Cards to begin with.

So, and this is complete conjecture, the Doctor could go to 22.

>River Time Lord because..Magic Tardis shagging
oh fuck wish I'd never remembered that.

oh please grumpy swearing new doctor lead us away from that bullshit.

Though I would watch a Hagen review of that just for her constant swearing and breaking down in a sobbing angry heap.

>>38437

>oh please grumpy swearing new doctor lead us away from that bullshit.

I heard they're keeping Moffat and all his merry men for writing the new episodes

If this is true not even Peter can get me watching again. I am so done with WHAT A TWEEST, FEZZES FEZZES and their entire dog and pony show

>>38437
Oh god River....I think when I first saw her ass I stopped watching the 11th doctor.

My opinion: I'm not the biggest hardcore fan of Doctor Who but the 11th doctor's story was confusing and went on too long. I liked 10 and some of 9's episodes, but 11 was just...ech. I'll admit that Matt Smith is a good actor but him as 11 didn't do it for me.

>>realizing we're not ready for a black and/or gay doctor because fangirls still can't tolerate a non-stereotypically-attractive older white guy

this is why I hate the internet

>>38749
I'm not sure if I understand how regeneration works--I can see him regenerating as a black guy, but could regeneration really change his sexual preferences? Or, and I know there are people who want a female Doctor, but for that matter would it even be able to change his sex?

>>38750
No experience with Classic Who, but in "The Doctor's Wife" he mentions that the Corsair was sometimes a woman, so yes, a Time Lord can change gender through regeneration.

>>38751
Ah. Well in that case, it's almost ridiculous that he's gone through 12 regenerations and NOT been a woman yet.

The deal is every Time Lord's regenerations work on a different deal, Classic who mentions the Doctor is always getting Younger...though that's been totally thrown out now.

There was something about the Masters regenerations, but for most of the series he's been on stolen regenerations and those don't play by your original regenerations rules.

Some switch genders and ethnicities, speech patterns and dialects, so until 12 I didn't see a reason for a women or a poc but hey if they've thrown age then the fuck not?

Didn't he pose that he could if he actually put a conscious effort into controlling his regeneration but he just doesn't because there is no reason for him to. Regardless I don't want Moffat anywhere near a female Doctor.

>>38758
Why do people say he writes women badly? I've been content with pretty much every Who episode I've seen. I can't think of anything to complain about.

>>38760
River sets me on edge and I feel whatever comes from him would be more or less like her.

>>38765
She's just one woman character, though. If he writes another woman, she'll be different. River is not all women.

>>38760
>Why do people say he writes women badly?
because he kinda DOES write women badly
River's entire existence revolves around the Doctor. Amy Pond had that mystical pregnancy horseshit and she's frequently reduced to a totally passive role. She's not in Doctor Who, but Irene Adler was also a potentially great character made awful, because Moffat ruins good ideas. Moffat went on record saying that John Watson isn't attracted to Sherlock because he "isn't wired that way," but then he specifically establishes Irene as gay and has her fall for Sherlock anyway. And then she makes the stupidest mistake anyone could possibly make when they're trying to keep a lock code secret and is ultimately brought down by her WOMANLY FEELINGS. Not sure if this counts, but Molly Hooper also just gets heaped with unnecessary abuse all the damn time.

Am I the only one really bummed out that The Rock isn't going to be the new Doctor?

Like, Peter Capaldi is a great choice, but...

We could've had The Rock!

No we couldn't.

>>38760
"There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married – we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands. The world is vastly counted in favour of men at every level – except if you live in a civilised country and you’re sort of educated and middle-class, because then you’re almost certainly junior in your relationship and in a state of permanent, crippled apology. Your preferences are routinely mocked. There’s a huge, unfortunate lack of respect for anything male."

this literally says all that needs to be said about what moffat thinks of women and it reflects enormously in his writing of lady characters.

>>38777
I want to crumble this man's head betwixt my fingers.

>>38771
Irene Adler...yesh I was kinda okay with her till that very end. When Sherlock pulled a straight out of ass New Who moment and saved her fending off a score of terrorist with machine guns with him only wielding a scimitar . All that was missing was that damned chorus going on in the background.

>>38777
>>38777

>>38777
Ookay, that's dickish. I won't deny some women are needy, but I hate generalizations in regards to any subject. Certainly not every woman is.

>>38777

Yeah. . . I'm gonna need a source on that, chum.

Moffat is an ass, but he's not THAT much of an ass. That I know of.