Sez you.

>>34655
Actually, I do need to thank you guys, you get it.

Horror films are mostly horrible because they go for the cheap "pop out of the closet and scream boo" scare. Shaky Cam didn't help it, but it wasn't the cause of death

>>34658
I beg to differ, Shaky cams were where Horror fell apart, you still get occasionally good horrors that understand and oh hey "pop out of the closet and scream boo" is a huge part of the good ones, Splinter for example.

You only said one word there that's right, "cheap."

It's about suspense, not the boo every time, but sometimes, and SOMETHING to be afraid of, real or not.

Shaky Cam is as cheap as ANYTHING can EVER get and with shaky cam there is zero suspense because there is ALWAYS something there or even worse something there we have no reason to be afraid of which is almost always the case, when is Shaky Cam good? when it's least shaky and we've got a good idea what's happening.

The Parasites in Cloverfield? THAT SHIT WAS SUSPENSEFUL, that movie was fucking HORRENDOUS, but those 10 minutes NAILED IT, but Shaky Cams are for the most part so fucking terrible they drag the whole genre down by the boot straps, for every ten minutes of Parasites there is the rest of Cloverfield or a Paranormal Activity.

>>34659
I don't even associate shaky cam all that much with horror films. There's Cloverfield, the Paranormal Activity films, and the original and American version of REC, but what else?

Most of the horror films I see is usually the same bullshit in every other horror film: family thinks they're alone, but they're not; a little boy or girl can communicate with ghosts or is possessed by one; every scare is just the background music getting unspeakably loud whenever it zooms in on something it thinks is scary, but is actually laughable. . . I swear they're all the same now.

>>34661
That you don't mention Blair Witch, the greatest culprate of atrociousness shaky cam movies is proof enough that you got nothing on the subject.

And yeah THEY ARE ALL THE FUCKING SAME NOW, That's what I'm getting at.

We don't have any good horror anymore, mainstream horror died July 30th 1999.

>>34662
I blocked that movie out of my mind and everyone should too.

In all honesty, I completely forgot about that film. Jesus, that was a terrible movie. Just a bunch of teenage turds cussing in the woods and then dying off in the last five minutes.

I hate it when screenwriters just have their characters shout nothing but F-bombs, because they think it's authentic. It gets so fucking repetitive. And I especially hate it when comedy writers do it, because they think it's funny. That's one of the reasons why comedy films suck nowadays.

>mfw Eraserhead
I'm not entirely certain what just happened, but it was quite a thing. I hesitate to say I liked it, as it feels awkward to say I liked something which made me feel so thoroughly uncomfortable, but it certainly had an effect on me, and I completely respect it.

>>34662
>>34663
I have to admit, Blair Witch Project is something of a sentimental favorite, as it was one of the first horror films I ever saw in theaters. However, I acknowledge that it has numerous problems, and it definitely opened the doors for much of the 'lazy horror' that has since dragged down the genre.
And I actually like the sequel better anyway, because if nothing else, it at least tried harder.

>>34665
God Eraserhead, the family dinner is just gonna be with me forever.

>>34663
I think the whole concept of "teenage assholes are partying out in the middle of wherever" needs to stop. Not even so much a deal of something done more now than earlier; more so a deal of being over done.

And what are some ways that the horror genre can be revitalized? I can't say myself as I'm a pansy and can barely sit through a lot of horror, but somebody out there has to have it in their mind to bring back the genre.

>>34657
This movie was a damn good watch.

I get a kick out of the fact this project keeps going

https://www.youtube.com/user/MarbleHornets

It's hard to take any other horror films seriously after Cabin in the Woods anyway.

Imma guess I'm the only one who enjoyed Boogeyman, Darkness Falls, Mirrors...

>>34669
But... but they need to be there! They have it coming, so we can root for Jason without guilt!

>>34670
I have two friends deadly obsessed with this series. What is it even about anyway?

>>34672
It's hard to take ANY MOVIE seriously after Cabin Fever.

>>34673
>They have it coming, so we can root for Jason without guilt!

The best Friday The 13th movies have you rooting against Jason, i.e. 3, 6 and 7.

>>34674
Stupid bullshit like Slenderman.

>>34669
IT SO FUCKING WAS, GOD GWOEMUL WAS GREAT.

>>34675
Wait, but Cabin Fever and Cabin in the Woods are different movies...unless you're making a funny, in which case ignore me.

>>34677
I am indeed making a joke.

But you should see Cabin Fever if you haven't, that movie is magic.

Pancakes!

>>34678
Krusty: What the hell was that?

The passing of a master of the practical effects Carlo Rambaldi, he shall be missed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/italian-special-effects-master-carlo-rambaldi-father-of-et-dead-at-86/2012/08/10/eade6e52-e30e-11e1-89f7-76
e23a982d06_story.html

My automatic response to "so-and-so isn't good anymore" is "so-and-so was never good."

We've always had jump scares and cheap musical ques. We've always had handfuls of unlikeable teens decimated for fun and profit. Before there was CGI, there were discount rubber masks.

I'll acknowledge that we might not have a contemporary equivalent of, say, John Carter's The Thing, but that doesn't mean the entire genre is done for. That whole mindset, regardless of what it's applied to, is pretentious as hell.

>>34826
>John Carter's The Thing
John CARPENTER, fuck. Though I don't doubt that he's been to Mars.

>>34827
John Carter VS The Thing.

>>34826

This is true. All CGI does is make it easier for the typical no-talent hack of Hollywood to assume that since you can computer generate a monster you can make anything on screen seem plausible.

Heck if anything I'd argue horror has benefited by modern audiences being less uptight about shit.

Yea you know how you all go on about universal's Frankenstein and Dracula being a classic? Be fortunate you saw the uncut version released years after the original theatrical release where shit was cut left and right even if it didn't make any goddamn sense.

And yes puppets and animatronics are awesome but the only difference between a puppet and a CGI effect in my brain is that when they're done well I go "that's a pretty good puppet" vs "that's a pretty good CGI effect". I'm legitimately fooled by both about as much as either one so I don't really care either way.

And hell I'd argue puppetry isn't what makes good movies with puppetry good. You think the Thing was good because it used models and animatronics? NO! If we SAW any of those electronics out in the light and watched the antarctic crew fiddle around with them they'd look plenty cheap and fake. What MADE The Thing's effects good was the atmosphere, lightning, and general pace. It never showed you enough of The Thing that you got a full view of it, and when you did get a view of it, it was either in shadow or there was a strobe effect so you only caught glimpses of it. THAT'S good special effects, not fucking puppets or slamming your fist on a computerized keypad for 20 hours. Knowing what to DO with those things matters, and the only fault you could give hollywood is that they look at what computers can do and go "WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT WE CAN DO WITH COMPUTERS" and they never think to do good practices with them, looking to show off special effects rather than use them subtly. Which can work in an action film but IS cancer to a horror movie, no matter what era you're in.

Saying "CGI is the cancer killing movies and glorious practical effect race" is both maligned and ignorant because you're essentially undermining the work that goes into making CGI effects and that's just fucking wrong. You're the same kinda asshole who thinks that drawing with a Paint Program and tablet is "cheating" and that there's some kind of mystical 'make good art' button on those things that people can just press, sit back and watch happen. That horribly undercuts the work that goes into the CGI and special effects production of modern movies and paints modern effect designers as a bunch of hacks.

AND YES there are re-useable resources in many of these programs. There are re-useable fire effects and water effects and monster images that can be tweaked and such, but here's the thing: practical effects has those as well and those have been used just as much. Hell one of the most common practices for old shlock horror titles was LITERALLY just going into the backlots of other movies and using old costumes that weren't being used anymore. That's why a lot of them had gorilla like monsters in those movies, because EVERY studio had a gorilla suit.

So yes. Lazy and unproductive movie makers can use lazy and unproductive methods to make lazy and unproductive movies. This has been happening since the dawn of Hollywood and will continue on for quite some time. Don't like it? Well get use to it.

>>34826

This is true. All CGI does is make it easier for the typical no-talent hack of Hollywood to assume that since you can computer generate a monster you can make anything on screen seem plausible.

Heck if anything I'd argue horror has benefited by modern audiences being less uptight about shit.

Yea you know how you all go on about universal's Frankenstein and Dracula being a classic? Be fortunate you saw the uncut version released years after the original theatrical release where shit was cut left and right even if it didn't make any goddamn sense.

And yes puppets and animatronics are awesome but the only difference between a puppet and a CGI effect in my brain is that when they're done well I go "that's a pretty good puppet" vs "that's a pretty good CGI effect". I'm legitimately fooled by both about as much as either one so I don't really care either way.

And hell I'd argue puppetry isn't what makes good movies with puppetry good. You think the Thing was good because it used models and animatronics? NO! If we SAW any of those electronics out in the light and watched the antarctic crew fiddle around with them they'd look plenty cheap and fake. What MADE The Thing's effects good was the atmosphere, lightning, and general pace. It never showed you enough of The Thing that you got a full view of it, and when you did get a view of it, it was either in shadow or there was a strobe effect so you only caught glimpses of it. THAT'S good special effects, not fucking puppets or slamming your fist on a computerized keypad for 20 hours. Knowing what to DO with those things matters, and the only fault you could give hollywood is that they look at what computers can do and go "WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT WE CAN DO WITH COMPUTERS" and they never think to do good practices with them, looking to show off special effects rather than use them subtly. Which can work in an action film but IS cancer to a horror movie, no matter what era you're in.

Saying "CGI is the cancer killing movies and glorious practical effect race" is both maligned and ignorant because you're essentially undermining the work that goes into making CGI effects and that's just fucking wrong. You're the same kinda asshole who thinks that drawing with a Paint Program and tablet is "cheating" and that there's some kind of mystical 'make good art' button on those things that people can just press, sit back and watch happen. That horribly undercuts the work that goes into the CGI and special effects production of modern movies and paints modern effect designers as a bunch of hacks.

AND YES there are re-useable resources in many of these programs. There are re-useable fire effects and water effects and monster images that can be tweaked and such, but here's the thing: practical effects has those as well and those have been used just as much. Hell one of the most common practices for old shlock horror titles was LITERALLY just going into the backlots of other movies and using old costumes that weren't being used anymore. That's why a lot of them had gorilla like monsters in those movies, because EVERY studio had a gorilla suit.

So yes. Lazy and unproductive movie makers can use lazy and unproductive methods to make lazy and unproductive movies. This has been happening since the dawn of Hollywood and will continue on for quite some time. Don't like it? Well get use to it.

>>34830
>And yes puppets and animatronics are awesome but the only difference between a puppet and a CGI effect in my brain is that when they're done well I go "that's a pretty good puppet" vs "that's a pretty good CGI effect". I'm legitimately fooled by both about as much as either one so I don't really care either way.
Agreed.
I can't say I'm particularly convinced by either, and I'm not sure what people see in goo riddled latex dolls above modern renders.

>gwoemul

That's Korean for "Monster". That's a pretty uninspired title for a pretty good movie.

>>34829
>>34831
Well I'm not sure if I'm the only one who notices a change on lighting and contrast when they need to make CGI-heavy monster movies. I find it a bit harder to get involved if the movie looks like a cutscene from a videogame. Also, since CGI makes it easier to use wholly new camera angles and effects, the directors sometimes don't seem to think if they SHOULD, in a horror movie.

Granted animatronics often fail anyway (ughhhh why did every monster blink and wave their ears slowly when they roared/growled/howled etc), but sometimes it helps that they're on actual film (like the slimy first zombie on Night of the Living Dead). Also can't disregard effects like in Hellraiser or Ghostbusters.

Strangely Warrior was more tear jerking than I was expecting. Something about failed dads always gets me.

All of James Cameron's human villains suck.

To be fair...Billy Zane sucks in general.

Thanks to the Tearaway trailer, I can't stop listening to this song.

Stealing Sheep - Shut Eye Lyrics

this guy just doesn't seem to give off the same complete sleaze vibe that the comic govenor did. but who knows, maybe that will change

>>34846
Motherfucker did you not watch Demon Knight? Better not be all coming up here dissing Billy Zane without seeing Demon Knight.

>>mfw finally watching Leon/The Professional

I don't have a proper manly tears enough reaction image for this film. And my god, Natalie Portman, this and Black Swan more than make up for those Star Wars prequels.

Someday I want a "thinking man's Expendables" with a deep plot and actors like Jean Reno and Bruce Willis and that guy who played Machete, all of who can actually act, but also cars exploding and guys getting the shit beaten out of them. If only.

>>34883
This reminds me. I'm pretty hyped for Expendables 2 - if it doesn't turn out to be the best movie of the year, they failed big time, in my opinion - but they really needed to have Bolo Yeung playing a bad guy in it, if they don't already. Maybe that chinese guy who tortured Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon, too.

I suppose hey could save Danny Trejo, Steven Seagal and Lorenzo Lamas for a third one.

Also, getting Clint Eatwood on it because he was born for badass stuff. Screw those "Oscar" movies, man.

Just got back from Rifftrax Live. It was awesome.

>>34885
I'm in a weird place because I want an action movie where the actors are as good at acting as they are at beating people up, with a plot that's deep and makes you think and cry, but I also want cars exploding and giant robot dinosaurs and other campy things in the same film, and I don't know if Hollywood can make that happen.

>>34896
BELIEVE

>>34899
Ooh, Del Toro. I liked the Hellboy movies, so I might give this a shot.

>>34899
Okay, I understand where we might get fetuses, but how is he going to work corpses under clear sheets into a Giant Robots vs. Giant Lizards movie?

>>34901
It's a movie about war between giant robots and kaiju. There's room for collateral.

THE MAN WITH THE IRON FISTS - …

YOU ALL BEST GET HYPE

>>34903
I get hype

Cool! This is another one of the upcoming Chinese co-productions Hollywood's pushing for. Looks like a fantastic fusion in all the right ways.

>>34902
Should I watch other kaiju movies before this and the new Ghibli movie come out? It's not a genre I've gotten into yet.

>>34906
>Ghibli Kaiju
What? Where!?

>>34908
There's a trailer out for it, it's their first live-action movie. The designs look very Mononoke, but I think it's more a case of same designer than same universe.

>>34909
Did a bit of digging. It looks like a prequel to Nausicaa, featuring an army of very Anno-esque God Warriors laying waste to Tokyo, all done completely with miniatures and no CGI. It looks absolutely bone-chilling:
巨神兵

>>34899
>Del Toro
Yeah but you're gonna get some spanish civil war in the middle of all that, somehow. >:(

>>34912
Wot?

>>34912
Spanish Civil War between kaiju?

>>34914
Likely.
>>34913
The Devil's Backbone, Pan's Labyrinth... he sets a lot of his movies on the spanish civil war for whatever reason. It's just majorly boring for me.

I was not informed Twin Peaks ended on a cliffhanger. Maaaaaaaaaan.

avengers gag reel

Gag reel of the year, all years.

>I Saw The Devil

Welp, we got another dead Muppeteer.

>>34934
Also along that line.

Muppet Show S1 E18 P1 - Phyllis Diller
Muppet Show S1 E18 P2 - Phyllis Diller
Muppet Show S1 E18 P3 - Phyllis Diller

Rest In Peace.

NOW THIS IS FUCKING HORROR!

Antiviral Official Movie Trailer [HD]

>>34936
I'm so glad I got into this horror kick lately, because this looks like it's going to be sick.

Went to the Blockhead show.

Bad news is I realized Blockhead is, more or less, a club DJ. Good news is I got to see Anomie Belle live, and she's fucking fantastic.

>haven't watched or even thought much about Mary Poppins since I was around 10
>watch it again recently
>realize my adult self is highly attracted to Mary
So many mixed feels...

>>34947
It's Julie Andrews, nothing mixed there.

>>34948
It's the fact that this only struck me now that's part of why I feel knocked out of sorts. A week ago, if someone had mentioned Mary Poppins, it'd have conjured hazy but happy childhood memory. Now I'm having naughty thoughts involving her wearing a bustier and garterbelts.

>>34949
I only thought about that angle after I stumbled across this phone wallpaper in the Google search. Had thought about it in general due to a old piece of fiction involving her and her umbrella and a little too much medicine.

The only downside to Paranorman was that hearing The White Stripes again rekindled my lingering grumpiness over them breaking up. It felt like Jack White started seven different other bands, all of them good in different ways, just to abandon them for new ones.

Twin Peaks is giving me a serious jonesing for doughnuts.

>>34981
>Not cheery pie

come on man.

http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/2012-08-30/bain-meets-bane/

Jim Croce The Ball Of Kerrymuir

Never knew Jim Croce had it in him.

>>34915
Same reason some people mention the 9/11 on USA, allende and pinochet movies in Chile and in this case the civil war in Spain.

Seriously? Are we REALLY not over the "women are secretly monsters who have evil spirits lurking in their coochies" trend yet? Can we stop doing this now?

Alan Rickman, why are you in this movie

>>35031
Because Yipee-Kye-Yay, monsterpussy!

Is that the new Sam Raimi movie? I was thinking of watching when it comes out here, his last horror movie I saw creeped me out but good, despite the silly moments. :/

>>35034
He's co-producer, not writer or director.

>>34115
Sooo last monday I actually payed to watch it (guess that makes me partof the problem), and... the new Total Recall IS a remake. They actually acknowledge it in the end credits, and the movie makes numarous references/jokes about the original (that was probably my favorite thing about it). As it turns out, it's a LOT less like the original short story - I read it and rewatched the original again.

The movie turned out too long for its own good in my opinion, specially for the smaller scope, lost some of the sci-fi aspect, and damn it looked colorless. I guess that's one of my main problems with CGI-heavy movies these days, they use these cold colors filters that make everything lifeless (I believe Sneaky Tiki already said that). I had trouble sometimes figuring out which were the police "cars" during a chase sequence, adn they still were black and white, for crying out loud. The final sequence was a bit closer to late 90s action movies' endings, so that at least kinda worked for me. Oh yeah, and I hate this thing where in any futuristic sci-fi nowadays they just HAVE to make the computers, etc a bunch of floating hologram windows, and everyone seems to just know which window to slide to the side and shit... but that's just me being grumpy I guess, doesn't look good for me and I forgot to complain about it in Amazing Spider-Man.

Also rewatching the original... nowadays it does look kinda campy at times (that one scene where Quaid takes off the disguise and the cops stop to watch in awe, then he throws it to them and they just stop, looking at it), and in some parts it even looks like a made-for-tv movie (like the first cab Quaid takes, or the scene where it explodes
). Still more fun to watch though, I guess.

...AT LAST IT HAD COLORS! AND MONITORS!

Oh yeah, and Kate Beckinsale still looked amazing on the remake, they pulled off some neat futuristic ideasand effcts, and they did pull off some Blade Runner look on the Colony, gotta give them that one. It was an ok movie I guess, but I suppose I'd do well to mostly stay away from remakes of stuff from the 80s-90s.

>>35037
Ah, right, thanks. So, does it suck majorly or is it any good?

>>35044
Also too long didn't proofread lol

Wasn't sure where else I could put this:
Six grown men read "50 Shades of Grey"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/green-mile-actor-michael-clarke-duncan-dead-at-54-following-july-13-heart-attack/2012/09/03/5ccf4806-f6
10-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html

>>35059
Man what?! I wanted to post a reaction iage, but I have no one handy and it would be pretty much the same

He looked like such a nice guy... dunno, it was the face ;_;

>>35059

So long, boss ;_;7

PARANORMAN WAS REALLY, REALLY FUCKING GOOD.

>>35066
I loved that final battle.

>>35067
holy fucking shit it was so intense i was like balled up in my seat just grinning a total moron because WOW what a good movie im totally gonna see it again at the $5 show next week

>>35069
Let me blow your mind.

The clouds were made completely of stop motion cloth.

>>35070
...wh

no

NO WAY

REALLY!?

>>35074
Yup, the lighting effects added later in cgi.

And

EVERY SINGLE FACE

ON

EVERY SINGLE PUPPET

IS A MOLD

THEY CREATED MILLIONS OF FACES EVEN FOR BACKGROUND CHARACTERS

ParaNorman | Faces of ParaNorman

>>35075
Wait, I thought the facial transitions were mostly done through 3D Printing, rather than mold-making? Didn't they make a big deal about that?

The Bay Official Trailer #1 (2…

OH GOODIE, MORE FOUND FOOTAGE HORRO-*Vomit*

>The Hub is airing Hercules
YUSS!

>>35083
AND Sliders
AND Superman the Animated Series

I love this channel.

>>35084
its like they went with the idea of "what do I want to watch" instead of "what can we get on the cheap" just happened that both of those ideas intersected into a happy medium.

And the Hub slowly phases my /co/ Network online channel idea to be obsolete.

If the Hub started airing Justice League and Batman: The Brave and The Bold (somehow), and ran a block of every Batman show back to back, say, every Saturday, I could die happy.

A Christmas Story 2 Trailer [H…

wow..so much rage.

>>35097
NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>35094
Only then will the Eternal Batman be summoned.
>BATMAN! GRANT MY WISH!

The Book Club -- Letters of th…

I liked this enough to subscribe to the channel. I NEVER DO THAT.

All of my bones are broken

This is the only good thing that came out of this movie.

>Boy Wonder

Decided to take the free-month trial on Netflix on my vita and it's quite cool, despite the huge lack of series and movies, yet still manages to get enough stuff while they get more in the meanwhile. Also, a shitload of mexican and colombian telenovelas.
Now I can watch the first four seasons of Breaking Bad!

Decided to take the free-month trial on Netflix on my vita and it's quite cool, despite the huge lack of series and movies, yet still manages to get enough stuff while they get more in the meanwhile. Also, a shitload of mexican and colombian telenovelas.
Now I can watch the first four seasons of Breaking Bad!