>>67071
Not all of them. Just the amber one. 8^y

>>67065
>>67069
Think about it seriously. We know LE is a cherub. We know he shares a body with Scratch. We know Calliope's methods of deception are suspiciously familiar, and her sketchy voyeurism would only be more shameless than ever with omnipotent perception.

If uu is LE, it's plausible that Doc Scratch is Calliope's "side" of the body, repurposed somehow through inscrutable magics. But if they share so many suspicious similarities, why aren't they more similar? Is there another personality in there somewhere that picked up some of Cal's quirks?

Let's assume there is. Quick, enumerate the candidates for such a role and point out the ones that currently seem to be turning evil.

I just noticed something.
There's a slot shown for a component of Doc Scratch OTHER than lil' Cal and the cueball. We can't what object is in that slot, but...

>>67124
I assume it's the tick t0ck 8r8k h34ds code.

>>67125
Yeah, it's just for the genetic sequence needed to make the first guardian. The slot in the trolls' session is huge because part of the code was written on Karkat's giant ~ATH manual.

>>67126
I wonder how much that code did besides just granting him FG powers. I mean, it was split up into five parts and Aradia's narration implied LE had directly manipulated them into writing some of it. Is the code all you need to summon LE? Is the cueball necessary? Is Cal?

>>67132
The code being responsible for summoning Lord English would have some interesting implications, considering most trolls that wrote it were Prospit dreamers under Skaia's influence.

>>67135
Influence? There's a Muse for that. I'm thinking there's a Calliope-related twist in those codes.

My interpretation is that the DNA sequence used in First Guardian creation is just to make them First Guardians. Doc Scratch gets his mojo from the cue ball and the juju, which provide his world-shaking deduction and his parasite's identity, respectively.

One of the headcannons I've seen is that Dave Bro and Bro and Dirk are black; but I seem to remember a headcannon that John and Jade were like... Hawaiian or something. Was that a thing?

>>67143
Jade specifically gets Pacific Islander traits more commonly than any other ethnic minority.

Probably because she lives on her grandfather's private Pacific island.

>>67143
Never seen black Dave/Bro/Dirk, care to share fanarts?

So who wants to bet that Jake's kernelsprite is the only one not fucked over by gamzee post-entry

>>67299
Raisins?

THERE CAN ONLY EVER BE ONE applies to everything. All of the trolls that died had to die for the kids to god tier.

>Ex. Tavros had to die so that John could claim the aspect

>>67310
Aradia was alive before Dave ascended though.

>>67296
Wish I had some on hand. A couple weeks ago I saw a shitload of them. It was kind of a funny mix, too, because in half of them they had either African facial features or dark skin colors but not both. There were also a bunch where their hair was drawn as dreadlocks.

>>67311
I'd think time is kind of is its own gray area, though.

Random dumb theory:

Cherub eyes are removable. When uu wakes up he's going to get mad at Calliope for not taking hers out, and then replace them with ones of his own choosing - possibly ones with black sclera, like Jigsaw's eyes. This is the reason uu's eyes are hidden when he's watching all the kids get killed by the miles - to hide the fact that they're not just a pallet swap of calliope's eyes.

>>67318
Black eyes with red irises would be nearly the exact inverse of Callie's eyes. Makes sense.

So apparently when you factor in Ophiuchus' sign into things, it takes Scorpio's water alignment, and Scorpio ends up being air, with Libra being assigned as a general balance. That could be why there's been several heavy handed references to Mindfang/Aranea being drawn to air (the former abandoning her fleet to take to the air, the latter being "long winded" in prose and referred to as a "windfang", etc.) and drawn away from the water.

It's interesting to note that accounting for Ophiuchus only affects Scorpio and Libra, by giving Libra's alignment to Scorpio, and taking Scorpio's for itself. Could have influence for why the short Redglare/Mindfang rivalry had karmic consequences for Terezi and Vriska (even if the favor is stacked oddly), and why Scratch mentioned a favor imbalance between the two.

So who wants to bet that jake dies in EoA6_3?

Prediction: If Roxy goes god tier, it will be via some third method that has not been previously seen and will involve breaking the games code apart itself, making her literally a hackster goddess.

Void symbol looks an awful lot like a black hole doesn't it? Ihope roxy is somehow affected by it.

>>67522
Trickster Roxy has a huge red/green swirl lollipop. There's no way she won't have something to do with it.

I think someone might mention calliopes in front of Lord English in an offhand way, like Gamzee talking to Nanasprite about their hobbies, and Lord English happens to overhear and switch back to being Calliope.

>>67537
You know that fangirl-celeb moment? That with Calliope LE as the fan and the survivors as the celeb. She has Dave sign her wand, but he draws a dick and tells her it's his John Handcock. John feels like he was dragged into the joke, being a John himself.

I'd like to point out that Sollux is proof that personality traits can affect or foreshadow having multiple dream selves. Though it is stretching it quite a bit, Nepeta may well have 9 dream selves. She could just be hiding the remaining 8. Remember, her "death" wasn't captioned with "DEAD" like every single other official death of a player. (Unless I'm forgetting something.)
Basically, if another troll dies (thus opening up the possibility of a resurrection to fix the 6/12), we have something to consider here. Or I could just be too hopeful for my own good.

>>67595
Given that Dirk has seemingly an endless supply of selves, it could make sense that Nepeta would as another Heart player.

>>67597
Let's expand on this theory.

Dirk is a Prince of Heart - a hero whose nature is to destroy "selves", or alternatively, to make "selves" destructive. His personal schtick seems to be a splintering of self, and each fragment able to act independently (and be sacrificed if needs be - e.g. the head-in-a-sendificator trick).

Nepeta is a Rogue of Heart - a hero whose nature it is to redistribute hearts/souls/selfhood benevolently and subconsciously. A stockpile seems more Thief of Heart-esque, to me; it's Vriska who piled up luck into an unshakeable stronghold, while Roxy's redistribution of Void seems to favor shielding her team and loved ones.

If Nepeta survives, perhaps it's that there's a fragment of her in all of her surviving friends - that some portion of her lives on in their memories, waiting to be reunited.

So Karkat wasn't kidding about meeting those fifty Nepetas.

:3

>>67598
>If Nepeta survives, perhaps it's that there's a fragment of her in all of her surviving friends - that some portion of her lives on in their memories, waiting to be reunited.
Wow, that's really sweet. So, she would live on in their hearts (and eventually come back.) That's just adorable and really... Nepeta. I like it.

>>67598
Anyway, that was really well thought out and lovely. I'd like to bring up once again that a troll will have to die to facilitate her resurrection. (Most likely, anyway.)

(I vote Karkat because drama and "you're too late.")

The original Intermission was in between Act 3 and Act 4. Act Six's structure roughly mirrors that of the previous 5 acts, but condensed. We have currently left Act 6-3. It is time for a new intermission.

But will it be A6I3, or Intermission 3?

The writer's self-insert is dead. We ended the act-act with lord english destroying the afterlife and what was likely his younger self trying to enter the medium. Also, we still don't know what's up with the "?" on Clover in the DEAD TALLY panel.

Judging from the progression of green curtains in Seer: Descend, the pre-scratch kids will only enter the new session in A6-6. If each intermission in act six represents a year (with A6I1 being year zero), then there's an intermission to spare between A6-1 and A6-6.

>>67631
>destroying the afterlife
See, I've heard multiple people interpret the flash that way now, but I'd been construing it as localized damage - that particular dreambubble, plus the surrounding fabric of paradox space and the horrorterror limbs that got caught in the blast.

Did I miss something that would indicate wider-scale damage?

>>67634
Maybe it was one of many dreambubbles he's intending to destroy?

>>67634
Nah, it was probably just one dream bubble. There are probably lots and lots of other bubbles floating about, and I don't think Kubo is quite done with Aranea, Meenah and the rest of the A1 trolls.

>>67636

Wow that is one heck of a freudian slip there. Homestuck isn't THAT bad.

>>67636
Of course, that makes you wonder what or who, exactly, he was gunning for when he blew it up.

>>67643
>>67642
Haha, don't you worry. That was written minutes after a discussion on/lolfest at Kubo's latest trolling.

so what are people's theories about active/passive class pairs?
here's what I came up with:
thief/rogue
prince/bard
mage/seer
maid/knight
witch/sylph
heir/page
lord(?)/muse

>>67677
There's a theory going around that each aspect has two different shoe colors to indicate whether a class is active or passive. So the Light aspect has red shoes for active classes (Thief, Prince) and blue shoes for passive ones (Rogue, Seer, Sylph, Bard). Assuming this is true, Heir should be in the same column as Page (both active or both passive), and Maid should be in the same column as Knight.

Anyway I feel like the B1 kids are either paired with each other (Witch/Seer and Knight/Heir) or all paired with other classes (eg. Mage/Seer, Witch/Sylph, Maid/Heir, Knight/Page). Mostly though I don't care how it turns out so long as Jane can do an Ace Dick autoparry with her healing abilities.

the only not explicitly told to us class combo i'm confident in is Heir/Knight.
Heir - "someone who is protected by/protects himself with X" both heirs have shown passive abilities that protect themselves using their powers.
Knight - "one who protects others with X" neither Knight has gone particularly out of their way to attack someone leading me to believe they are defenders rather than agressors. Both Dave and Karkat protected their space player, Dave saved John and Jade from death through davesprite, and if blood is leadership/friendship like people think, Karkat stopped red and blue killing each other through taking control of both teams.

Well, Witch/Sylph was hinted at long, long before we even knew classes came in pairs. I'm also quite certain that Seer/Mage is another one, since both deal with prophecies and the future.

Really, at this point the only thing that's still unclear is how to pair Page, Knight, Heir and Maid. I personally like Knight/Maid and Heir/Page.

i'm feeling more maid/page.

Maid - one who creates x for herself. Jane makes life to revive herself, aradia stopped Jack to make time for herself.

Page - one who creates x for/in others.
Tavros was about to do some sort of breathey thing kiss revive to maybe revive vriska's realself without using her dreamself?

>>67681
Pages are apparently all about potential and growth. While we haven't seen much of Tavros, Jake or Equius' quests, I feel that John's quest had a lot to do with potential.

>>67681
I dunno. "In thrall" seems to be a big part of the Maid archetype, and that gets glossed over if you couch it as a creator class.

>>67682
I also think Heir and Page are linked - they both seem to be classes about growing into your power.

>>67683
>I dunno. "In thrall" seems to be a big part of the Maid archetype, and that gets glossed over if you couch it as a creator class.
You just blew my mind. What are the odds we'll see Jane unable to kill herself to be with her loved ones?

http://cincosechzehn.tumblr.com/post/35878505958

http://cincosechzehn.tumblr.com/post/35878505958