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86829 No. 86829
Last one had a gif, so this gets a gif!

Taste the thematic, groundbreaking undertones!

They're penny flavored!

Also, PLOT! EXPOSITION! AND...pacifism?
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>> No. 86830
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>>86829
Did someone say sour milk and pennies?
>> No. 86831
Okay I can see how people would reach the (wrong) conclusion that it's meant to creep the viewer out instead of being fanservice, but how the fuck do people seriously believe it's not rape/that Satsuki isn't massively uncomfortable?

Also age of consent doesn't apply to incest.
>> No. 86832
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>>86831
Some people have very clingy, touchy-feely, and obnoxious parents.

It's annoying and uncomfortable sure, but despite what popular media might tell you, such gestures don't always have any "bad touch"/molestation intent behind them.

And with how little we've actually seen of Satsuki's vulnerabilities, preferences, and general personality behind her strong front, one could make the valid assumption that this is commonplace for her and she might accept it on some level.

After all, she was fine with showing her Junketsu-clad body off to a whole crowd of strangers and those she deemed lesser; Why should she be uncomfortable in letting her own mother take a gander at her gams?
>> No. 86833
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>>86832
Her mother is more than than just 'clingy', she clearly has no care for her daughter's consent in anything and considers her more of a tool.

That is why Satsuki is going to turn on her and is clearly working towards the opportune moment.

Also jesus christ buddy you are a horrible person, just because someone is unable to resist the one doing it to them so just "lies back and takes it" doesn't make it okay.
>> No. 86834
>>86831
>Okay I can see how people would reach the (wrong) conclusion that it's meant to creep the viewer out instead of being fanservice

The scene occurs over the mom monologuing her creepy philosophy, how is the scene supposed to be interpreted as anything BUT creepy?

> but how the fuck do people seriously believe it's not rape/that Satsuki isn't massively uncomfortable?

Rape is non-consensual, forced or coerced sex. I didn't see any sex, only an extremely uncomfortable massage. It's sexual harassment or molestation at worst.
>> No. 86835
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>>86832
>>After all, she was fine with showing her Junketsu-clad body off to a whole crowd of strangers and those she deemed lesser;
So basically what you are saying is...
>> No. 86837
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>> No. 86838
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>>86833
>>86835
I'm not saying that it's my personal opinion, I'm just suggesting to you why those people you're frustrated with might have come to those conclusions.

Some may also get confused by those interactions due to how headstrong Satsuki usually is. You'd figure that she would resist if she strongly objected to it, resolve and all that (hypocrisy?). So what comes to mind is that it's all part of her plan, she's choosing to let it happen because the keikaku will make it all better. From what's been shown of her (again, the lack of information makes things incredibly murky), if she wants to fight, even against something incredibly immense and foreboding, she'll fight it. The fact that she isn't makes it look like she's permitting it to happen, by choice. With that it mind, it looks like consent, rather than coercion, so the scene doesn't ring as many alarm bells in people's heads unless they entertain the idea that Satsuki doesn't resist because it would be pointless against someone as powerful as her mother.

But that sentiment doesn't have that much clout as we haven't really seen Ragyo show any strength that doesn't involve lens flares or dosh.

That said, if Ragyo does end up beating Satsuki and her little friends nearly half to death, rewatching that bathing/groping scene will be less about titillation and more about "holy shit, Ragyo could've snapped her in half right there," once they have that image of the Kiryuin senior ripping things to shreds during her debut battle in their heads.
>> No. 86839
>>86834
Uh,
>>Rape is non-consensual, forced or coerced sex. I didn't see any sex, only an extremely uncomfortable massage. It's sexual harassment or molestation at worst.
>>It's sexual harassment or molestation at worst.
Isn't this just splitting hairs?
Its still your parent doing sexually inappropriate things to your body against your will, its like the difference between killing ten thousand people and killing a hundred thousand.
>> No. 86840
>>86839
Words have meaning. There's no point in conflating sexual harassment and rape, unless you're just trying rile people up.
>> No. 86842
>>86834
>>86840
It seems more like you are trying to downplay things, as if sexual abuse and molestation between a parent and their offspring isn't a big deal as it is.
>> No. 86843
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Kill La Kill - Motherly Loveyoutube thumb
>> No. 86844
>>86842
More like, conflating molestation and rape trivializes rape.

Which isn't to say molestation isn't monstrous and evil, just that rape is several types and degrees worse. But yea, keep assuming the worst of what I mean.
>> No. 86845
>>86844
Sage doesn't really... do anything when the thread is already at the top of the board. And when the board is as slow as /jam/ too.
>> No. 86848
>>86840
You know, I'm almost certain this is a Poe pretending to be a feminist, like that one person on /mtv/ who claims misogyny is the only reason peoplea aren't full Taurielfag for the new Hobbit movie.
>> No. 86849
>>86842
Quit being an asshole and twisting people's words to make them look bad. I've seen people trying to pass off things like forced kisses as rape in order to bash a ship, and needless to say victims of actual rape were not happy at all.
>> No. 86851
>>86838
>With that it mind, it looks like consent, rather than coercion, so the scene doesn't ring as many alarm bells in people's heads unless they entertain the idea that Satsuki doesn't resist because it would be pointless against someone as powerful as her mother.

Because that's what it is. Satsuki is totally subservient to her mother, the woman who manipulates Kamuis like toys and controls the world, and is also her mother. Satsuki's clearly not entirely comfortable with her mother or her plans, but she doesn't ever speak out against her.
It's a creepy scene. Even the writers are trying to tell you it's a creepy scene. Just let it be creepy.
>> No. 86853
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86853
Kill La Kill Episode 16 in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntJDiCZpJyE
>> No. 86854
I for one think the scene was intended to be both creepy AND arousing.
>> No. 86860
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>>86854
>> No. 86861
really missleading thread opener and name.
just sayan
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>>86833
>> No. 86864
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>>86853
>> No. 86865
>>86848
What is a -poe- supposed to be when its at home
>> No. 86875
Is it weird that Ryuko looks more naked to me in her underwear than she does in her battle outfit?
>> No. 86879
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>>86875
It's a cuter look than her Senketsu uniform for me. Fanservicey yet somehow adorable at the same time.
>> No. 86880
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>> No. 86881
>>86854
More arousing than creepy of course.
I mean, its Japan. They have such a rape fetish because in a general sense they are too messed up to have healthy relationships which is part of the reason they are facing a declining population, unfortunate place to be sure.
>> No. 86885
Whose ass will Ragyo kick in the next episode to show how REAL things are about to get?

Satsuki?
The Devas?
Tsumugu?
Mako?
Aikuro?
Ryuuko?
Satsuki's butler?
>> No. 86886
>>86885
I'm hoping there's a point to Tsumugu. Mikisugu continues to be the silly mentor/comic relief but so far Tsumugu hasn't really done anything interesting since the episode where he first appeared.
>> No. 86888
>>86885
Ragyo will not do anything helsef. Except maybe for the "last battle" where she could sacrifice herself to the life fiber to change it into a convenient faceless monster.
>> No. 86890
>>86881
Okay now this is getting a little too "drawing social commentary from weird nerd shows" and even a little bit racial.
>> No. 86891
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86891
>PURIFYING TIME
>mfw

Can't wait for Satsuki to join Ryuuko.
>> No. 86894
>>86891
what would be the most awkward, Satsuki trying to befriend ryuko with some relaxing bath massage, or Satsuki yelling "han! stop it, mom!" during their first night of love?
>> No. 86895
Aside from the weird gratuitous fucked-up moment, I really did like the episode. We got the full reveal of what's going on, just as promised, and it was a doozy. Mako remains an awesome friend. And the final moment at the end was great- we're getting back to the cool Ryouko of the early episodes (without losing her character development).

Dunno if the moral objection will last, but I appreciate that she's objecting purely on her own initiative.
>> No. 86898
>>86895
>full reveal
Hehe

>it was a doozy
It was, but they could have done the entirely same setup without "ALIENS". Right now that just feels shoehorned.
>> No. 86904
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>>86894
>implying Ryuko isn't too busy getting it on with Senketsu
>> No. 86930
>>86881
Yikes. If you're bringing in casual racism and jumping to gross overgeneralizing conclusions about a whole group to make your point it's probably not a good one.
>> No. 86945
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86945
Seriously, sad as I am that Kill la Kill doesn't have animation budget for fight scenes, I'm really glad to see their tiny moments of A-game animation are being used on pivotal moments for Ryouko's character. (see also: finding out who killed her dad)
>> No. 86948
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Aikuro:

There was a time; when the five of them were just a club,
But thaaaaat was yesssssterdaaaaaay!
So innocent of that corp and its conspiracies,
But the crone has come to plaaaaaay!
The times have changed
The air's begun to taste of satin
The threads they chant
A constant warning
They keep singing
And repeating

One of Them Will Die!
One of Them Must DIE!

REVOCS:

Bow before the Life Thread, spinning wheel is turning!

Aikuro:

This yarn is on its final weave,
Revealing what was once concealed!

One of them will die!
One of them must die!

METALOCALYPSE Doomstar Requiem OPENING TRACK!youtube thumb
>> No. 86964
in before "nobody dies in KLK, except that one guy lol"
>> No. 86970
Well shit! That happened.
>> No. 86972
FUCK YEAH!!!
>> No. 86976
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86976
The best.
>> No. 86977
Fuck yeah!
>> No. 86978
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This would've been more impressive if we had actually seen Ragyo do something sublime besides glow a bit and molest her daughter.
>> No. 86979
>>86978
Who says that's her? Those thread spools seemed fairly obvious in use. Also spoilers.
>> No. 86980
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86980
Best scene btw
>> No. 86983
Ragyo went full Kefka. You never go full Kefka.
>> No. 86984
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86984
Satsuki is the best fucking character and yet just keeps getting better.
>> No. 86987
So wait...isn't the field there the dumbest place for anyone to fight Ryuko? She has a kamui that seems to be unique in that it can eat other life fibers and use them to power up. The entire place is swimming in life fibers...
>> No. 86989
my sword is a tool of justiceyoutube thumb
WELP
>> No. 86990
>>86989
You know, I was going to conclude my post with "I'm not saying it's rules of nature...but it's RULES OF NATURE!"
>> No. 86991
>>86984
The Mary Sue Train has no stops apparently.
>> No. 86992
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86992
Meanwhile, on /co/...

>>86991
Oh boy, here we go again.
>> No. 86993
>>86992
What's this supposed to be based off of? And good god Ragyo's outfit. Now I'm sure they're making the outfits stupid looking on purpose.
>> No. 86994
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86994
This had to be intentional.
>> No. 86995
>>86993
Disney's Sleeping Beauty.

Specifically Maleficent.
>> No. 86996
Well shiiiiiiiiit.

I mean, we knew it was coming, but shiiiiiiiiit.
>> No. 86997
>>86993
how is her outfit stupid? It's the fashion of a final boss. It sure looks better than Senketsu or junketsu ever will.
>> No. 86998
>>86997
She evolved from Rainbow Bitches to Rainbow Joker.
>> No. 87003
>>86994
Well, yes.
>> No. 87008
>>86989
Someone went further still. Kill la Kill - Metal Gear RAGY…youtube thumb
>> No. 87011
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87011
This was in response to the Loadsamoney Takarada video. I will never be able to unassociate him with London accents again.
>> No. 87012
>>87011
It matches him well to be honest.
>> No. 87013
>>87008
Is it me or did her boobs jump several sizes? Even with padding they didn't look as big in her previous outfit.
>> No. 87015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asIM_JQJAa4

Poor Satsuki

We all know what's coming next
>> No. 87016
>>87013
No, I think so, too. They seem to have gone from appreciably large to comically enormous.
>> No. 87020
After 10'000 years I'm free!youtube thumb

This show sure likes to take cool designs and then replace them with shitty ones.

Satsuki's plan was no surprise but the amount of blood it involved was rather impressive.
>> No. 87022
>>86997
I'm certain it's supposed to be intentionally ridiculous, especially when you take the comical faces Ragyo was making onstage. It's probably supposed to be a parody of fashionistas, hell the outfit even reminds me of Zoolander a little with how wacky it is.
>> No. 87027
>>87020
Yes, that surprised me, as well. The show hasn't been light on it, but I don't recall it showing such a huge amount at once (though the new OP does...)
>> No. 87029
>>86993
>Now I'm sure they're making the outfits stupid looking on purpose.

Well, Raygo is a fashion designer. High Fashion has two modes: Rummage sale hipster, and Final Fantasy final boss.

And this isn't even her final form.
>> No. 87030
>>87027
People in KlK are filled with gallons upon gallons of the stuff. Think of how much Ryuuko gave out when she went berserk.
>> No. 87051
Did they ever mention what happened to Satsuki's dad? I wonder if he was maybe a good guy, or if he was like Ragyo and whatever Satsuki took for kindness actually ended up setting her up for what she is now.
>> No. 87052
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Goddamnit.
>> No. 87054
>>87051
Took off all his clothes and started hanging out with bikers and mad scientists.
>> No. 87055
>>87051
I would imagine that, since we've yet to see his face, that his identity is still a signifies plot point. Especially since it seemed Satsuki took special recognition of the suit Ragyo made from the life fiber ball that matched the suit her father wore.
>> No. 87060
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God, this was SUCH A GOOD EPISODE. Best one yet, IMO.

I'm not even talking about what happened in the last 5 minutes. There were just alot of really good character moments- Satsuki's tea moment in particular (used to find it bitter when she was a kindhearted 5-year-old, now finds it genuinely delicious) was a REALLY interesting piece of symbolism. Though yes >>86980 was undeniably best bit.

Also, I have to admit, this makes the gratuitous fucked-up bath scene into a non-gratuitous fucked-up bath scene. Doesn't make it the best way to establish their dynamic, but at least it did so.
>> No. 87071
>>87051
Could be a thing like Fate/Stay Night with Rin and Tokiomi where his impact vastly outweighed the actual character until Fate/Zero. Although if he's Dr. Matoi it would explain why Satsuki is also able to survive using Junketsu.
>> No. 87081
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I think someone wanted to make a "Molester not so tough after being stabbed by bully" thing.
>> No. 87084
>>87051
Ragyo IS Satsuki's dad. Her mom died in a life fiber experiment and he started cross-dressing to fill in. Girls need a mother more than a father.
>> No. 87086
>>87084
Going by the OP gif that would mean Satsuki was sensually fingered to orgasm by her (cross-dressing? transsexual?) father...
>> No. 87087
>>86989
>>86990
>>87008
Junketsu, turn off my embarrassment inhibitors!
Shame...this is why I fight. This is my normal...my lewdness!
>> No. 87089
>>87086
The implications are staggering. Especially if you consider Satsuki's mother...is Dr. Matoi.
>> No. 87090
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87090
>>87081
I saw a Ragyo version of this floating around, forgot to save it though.
>> No. 87091
>>87090
It's in this very thread. Under a spoiler.
>> No. 87094
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/101809214/

Translation of character material stuff included in the BDs. Gamagori is half American and sends a lot of money to his mom, among other things.
>> No. 87096
>>87094
>among other things

Not the best phrase to use concerning a character who's into S&M in a thread that starts with a wincest gif.
>> No. 87098
>>87094
So is his dad a black American or Cotton Hill American?
>> No. 87101
>>87098
I doubt he got his blonde hair from his mother.
>> No. 87104
>>87101
I doubt anime gives a sinlge shit about hair colour genetics. also brown skin + blond hair can both be achieved artificially. Gama might just be a Gal-o.
>> No. 87105
>>87098
If it's the former that makes the whole "Gorilla" thing even more awkward.
>> No. 87106
>>87096
Oh. Well that's not what I mean. Other things include "Nonon only got interested in Satsuki when she changed from eternal smiles to frowns" and "Holy fuck Inumuta what is wrong with you."
>>87098
It doesn't say beyond his dad being a missing soldier and his mom being a local nurse as I recall.
>> No. 87107
>>87106
>"Nonon only got interested in Satsuki when she changed from eternal smiles to frowns"

Wonder if its because that's when her dad died/went missing, or that's when bath time with mommy started... or both.
>> No. 87109
>>87106
Missing as in because he's a deadbeat, or because he's legit MIA and couldn't have been there even if he wanted to?
>> No. 87112
>>87055
Obviously it's because he's Sexy Teacher. I mean come on.
Sad thing is this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to KlK specula.
>> No. 87120
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>Honnouji is the place where Oda Nobunaga was betrayed by his general Mitsuhide
>> No. 87137
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87137
School bully not so tough after getting molested again
>> No. 87138
>>87137
This whole episode was what. Poor Satsuki.
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