>>82377
Stealing is more noble when it's from older stories?

>>82378
see
>>82375

>>82359

I like how you're not actually refuting my points, just picking at my vocabulary.

>>82365

The show was solidly done, the characters were strong, but I personally feel it was limited by the kind of story they chose for it. I mean, the ol' set-in-school thing, popular-pretty-clique, awkward-unpretty-clique, obvious resolution of her wielding the shiny arc...it just ticked boxes so far as the plot went, so that left me unsatisfied. Yes you can say that for the kind of story they told some of the elements were necessary...but then that that doesn't excuse it, it just makes me question why they hemmed themselves in like that by wanting to tell a story SPECIFICALLY like this.

Of course if we're taking this project as a flaunting of animation skills (as I do) then it hardly matters at all, and it's still enjoyable regardless.


...I may as well make a point about nitpicking while I'm here. I consider it important to try and bring up these points when looking at stuff like this because I don't want everything to boil down to 'it's shit' or 'it's good' like it seems everything MUST these days. I don't want to see threads full of blandishments or curses with no keener sense of appreciation of the work in question, because then that just leads to radical wings screeching at each other rather than a general acceptance and discussion of such viewpoints.

And if you can't actually DISCUSS a show, and can only write flat praise or hyperbolic anger, then...that's just disappointing, and doesn't allow for as good an understanding of the work in general, and a lack of enrichment to your own opinions. I mean, all I said originally was I felt these particular character-types were overdone in modern anime, and we've had this whole discussion from it! So overall I'm happy about that.

>>82378
stealing from what? Another story that will be a rehash from something else anyway?
Unless you can trace history up to some oogabooga the caveman, there's no chance that any story is original. Each line, each event, each character, each theme can be traced back to something older. Storytelling has never been about pure creation, but about reorganizing bricks of ideas to build something.

>>82383
>Yes you can say that for the kind of story they told some of the elements were necessary...but then that that doesn't excuse it, it just makes me question why they hemmed themselves in like that by wanting to tell a story SPECIFICALLY like this.

It kind of does excuse it, though. Remove those elements and it'd be a different kind of story altogether. Every well-defined genre has certain checkboxes to go through, by definition of being a genre. If it doesn't check those boxes then it isn't that 'type' of story, it's a different one.

You seem to be judging the story based on what you want it to be rather than what the writers were actually trying to achieve. You're taking problem with the actual premise, at which point I'd just say that you aren't the target audience and this story wasn't made for you. I kind of hate to use that argument, but what you're doing is kind of like going to see a horror movie about a bunch of teenagers getting killed by a psychopath, and then complaining that what you saw was a horror movie about a bunch of teenagers getting killed by a psychopath instead of something more original. There are just certain beats that come up in certain types of stories.

I'm not saying that you're wrong for wanting something else, you're of course entitled to feel however you personally feel, just that it makes more sense to judge a work on how well it achieved what it seems like it was trying to achieve than on what you personally wanted it to be.

As for the nitpicking thing, it's fine to dissect and analyze as much of a work as you can, pointing out the slight negatives just becomes nitpicking when you don't also mention the positives. This is something pretty much everyone falls into pretty often, because it's just so much easier to focus on negatives than on positives for whatever reason. You've said you enjoyed it overall, but haven't really complimented anything but the animation. Are there any aspects about the writing you liked? Why?

>>82391

I have mentioned the positives, but I felt it unnecessary to go into too much detail over them due to the fact everyone else had already talked so much about them- which is quite the point I was making. I liked the world setting and I liked how the basic theme of BELIEVE because I'm an idiot who can't help but fall for that kind of thing.

I don't believe that the character archetypes used *were* absolutely necessary in a story like this, and if they were, then they could have gone in a slightly different direction to add a bit more dynamism into their roles, which they didn't....with, perhaps, the exception of the cool-perfect girl sorta admitting she knew about that famous witch, thus hinting at her being different in the past. (Though I'm aware that this too is also a common as muck thing to do, it at least adds a facet).


And you're not wrong in me wanting it to be different...but I don't see how that makes me wrong or the work more acceptable. Every time you see a flaw in something, don't you want to correct it? (Oh, Korra shouldn't have ended like THAT, there wasn't much going on in Django...). It's a review. I'm reviewing it. Of course if I see a problem with it I'm going to point it out and say 'they goofed', and if you're just going to shrug it off as the movie's style then you go ahead and do that, but you can't judge a work in a vacuum. Or you can, but then that's a very limited way to address anything with artistic merit- not even post-modernism does that. If they decided to put a story or a plot in I'm allowed to judge that because they wanted to do something with it. Use it as a loose framework for animation? Was that their goal? Then they could have chosen something better suited to that goal. And I can look at other characters in similar veins, other animated productions with similar themes and say 'well actually those do that theme/character better than this does' and judge accordingly.

So what were the writers trying to achieve? They certainly weren't aiming for lofty heights here, that's for sure, and if you're going to stick to something like 'a fun, light-hearted adventure with witches', well, they certainly nailed it...but just BECAUSE they nailed it does not mean that what they set out to do was brilliant. It was an average idea enacted superbly. If you're happy with that, be happy, but the fact is this could've been better than a 7/10, even with the scant 21 minutes they gave themselves.

>>82389
Thank you for "refuting" my point by reiterating exactly the point I was making.

I just watched that. The animation was disapoiting. The low framerate isn't saved by the the work on each frame. It also have that weird effect I dislike in lots of anime, that makes thing looks like they are made of some gumgum all the time.
The story and characters are pretty good, though, would watch a 20 episode show about it.

>>82398
>low framerate
Stopped reading there.

>>82400
why? You have some sort of rare brain disease or something?
The in-between is poor and there's really few frame per seconds that are actually drawn.

>>82404
>The in-between is poor and there's really few frame per seconds that are actually drawn.
Either your video codec needs updating or we're watching completely different things. What in sam hell are you talking about?

公式　「リトルウィッ…

hirabotch: Use this momentum to turn it (Little Witch Academia) into a TV series, please!

tuka_trg (Otsuka): We want to expand it in some form. But first we need to make sure more people know about the work!


THE ABOVE VIDEO IS THE VIDEO, LEGALLY ON YOUTUBE, FROM TRIGGER.

SPREAD, WATCH IT, GET THE VIEW COUNT UP GUYS. WE CAN DO IT.

Don’t forget one crucial factor in this:

THE VIDEO WILL ONLY STAY UP UNTIL THE END OF JUNE 2013!!!

SO DON’T WAIT!

GO WATCH IT!!

WE NEED TO GET THIS MADE INTO A FULL FLEDGED ANIME!!!

GO GO GO!!!

Well, I'd say a page view is the least we can do.

>>83525

>THE VIDEO WILL ONLY STAY UP UNTIL THE END OF JUNE 2013!!!

?

That's new. Anybody have an HD download with those subs?

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/22/popular-anime-short-little-witch-academia-gets-collectors-edition/

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/l7cczzu9b5izdlh

Here.

>>83558

Thanks

Can I take a moment to say how awesome Sucy is? She's my favorite character if only for this scene. No hesitation, no fear, just pure confidence that the only kill is overkill.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-05/studio-trigger-to-launch-kickstarter-for-new-little-witch-academia-episode
WELP
Time for throwing all your DOSH at Trigger.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1311401276/little-witch-academia-2

It's up.

>>83835

>the $50

Well don't mind if I do.

I'd love to back at the $50 level but I can't afford it right now and it would actually have to be $60 for me because I live in Canada.

But I definitely slipped in at $20.

>>83835
It's been less than a day and it's already over 1/3 of the way to the goal.

$150,000 seems a bit low for a 20 - 35 minute show though.

https://boards.4chan.org/a/res/89045664#p89048301

/a/ has shattered my rock solid image of anime fans as penniless good for nothings, what shall I do now?

>>83838
Holy Fucking Balls on Fire. I spoke too soon. It's over halfway done.

I'll just do the $1 for now, decide if I should do anything else later. I've still got most of a month after all.

I wish there was a tier for an HD download. I still don't have a Blu-Ray player.

Donated.

Not that it seems it needs my help!

>>83839
hahahahaha when has any 'nerdy' hobby implied any form of poverty haha

>>83838
>$150,000 seems a bit low for a 20 - 35 minute show though.

It's not for the whole thing, just to extend it from 20 minutes to 35 minutes. What kind of price is $10,000/minutes for making an OVA?

Speaking of which, what now? They didn't mention any stretch goals.

>>83839
>>83843
>at current
>$159,617
>1,548 backers
>average donation is $103.11

Indeed

Coming soon!

http://exhentai.org/s/bf278436cd/612631-1

>>84046
For those who don't know already, contains futa.

>>84046
>>84047

The worst kind of Futa, too, with the big dicks that narrow at the base in order to fit into the space the clit would usually occupy.

Come on, Japan, you can do better than this.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-20/little-witch-academia-gets-short-manga-in-ultra-jump
Sweet!

>>84047
>>84046
Eugh.
What a waste of good art, nothing against futa, but most of it is pretty awful ultra huge dick cliché like that aforementioned narrowed one.

This panel is pretty amusing, though.

>>84046
https://twitter.com/Trigger_Tattun/status/358880251675279360

The English speaker of Studio Trigger had this to say.

>>84055
...You know, I'm not sure I can still watch anime about kids anymore. Can't help but wonder what goes on in the animators' heads.

>>84057
Animators in general are messed up people. As long as it doesn't leak into the final product (and oh God I would be crushed if that actually happened with LWA) it shouldn't matter.

>>84057
>>84058

That plus although in the west when we hear 'doujin' we think 'porn', that's not necessarily the case in Japan. I went to Japan and attended Comiket and came home with a stack of doujinshi the length of my forearms, but only one of them was pornographic.

>>84058
True, but there's a difference between one-shot risky jokes and actual kiddie porn material, in my opinion. Those seem like different views. I guess it just feels different when they put so much focus on making them look/act like actual kids on a show and then go for porn. It's creepy.

>>84060
Oh yeah, once I bumped into a super cute MLP dojin and was amazed. It was basically the author showcasing his favorites with cute pics. Lots of the Comiket material I used to download were just artbooks with good-looking color work and stuff.

I took that into consideration, but the dojin linked to the author seems to be futa and stuff. Or maybe I've just grown cynical about these stuff, it's easier to assume the worse.

>>84064
>super cute MLP dojin
Links? I'm not into MLP because it's too boring for me and all the fanboys/girls shoehorning it into other series are annoying as hell, but I think the designs are still cute.

>>84054
Of all characters, Cure Heart, the fuck are you doing there?
Rikka is gonna go School Days on this shit.

>>84066
Second that motion, since I'm into MLP but in a normal not-brony way.

>>84046
Does anyone have a link to this on another site? I never could get past that panda and don't want to download anything.

>>84069

Just put a "g.e-" in place of the "ex" that should work for now.

I kinda dislike exhentai myself. Big reason being that I've yet to figure out how to make it work on my tablet, since as far as I know, you're supposed to use a cookie editor to access it.

There's a panda passing plugin.

>>84071
To elaborate, g.e-hentai.org is most of the same stuff except it has some ads and they remove some of the porn the advertiser don't allow.

It's not entirely consistent what kinds aren't allowed on g.e, but this was.

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/612631/ff1f5a8193/

>>84072
I tried it twice and got the same rootkit and adware both times.

>>84073
Not allowed is pedo stuff, scat, bestiality and most guro. Sometimes something slips through the cracks, but that's the stuff that's generally not on g.e. Also I never had any problems getting past the panda. I don't know how you people manage it. Just clear your cookies, log into g.e and then go to ex. ez pz

You don't need a cookie editor, a plugin, or anything else to get past the panda. Just clear your cookies for your browser (I usually delete my exhentai browsing history too just to be sure), create an account at g.ehentai and login to it, and boom. No more panda.

'Official' Oneshot from Ultra Jump

GET HYPE!

>>84502

Do you have a link to a full raw?

http://boards.4chan.org/a/res/91800918

Catch it while its HOT.

http://exhentai.org/g/622285/e5d150312c/
full version, in English