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77641 No. 77641
I just finished watching Fate/Zero.

This motherfucker right here is the true winner of the fourth Grail War, god DAMN.
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>> No. 81395
>Aniplex Twitter says Fate/Zero getting a dub by an "all-star" cast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=rl94WZWya-M
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHoh wait some of these are actually pretty decent
>> No. 81396
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>>81395
oh and here's the cast list
>> No. 81397
Iri, Saber, Waver, and Diarmuid all sound fucking dreadful. The rest I need to hear more of.

I can't give points to them for Crispin Freeman sounding good anymore than I would give a movie points for Sean Connery sounding Scottish. It's simply how reality works.
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>>81397
you forgot loli Rin, although thank god Sam Riegel isn't back this time around
>> No. 81399
>>81398
Yeah she sucked too.

I've actually never heard the FSN dub in my life so I can't comment, though I can imagine.

Unless they dubbed Fate Unlimited Codes in which case I've simply forgotten since I hate that game and didn't play much.
>> No. 81400
>>81399
Fate Stay Night Poop - My Gay Bulgesyoutube thumb
if you've ever heard Phoenix Wright in UMvC3 it's the same guy
his actual ability to emote isn't that bad, it's just that the voice itself is grating as hell
>> No. 81401
>>81400

Sam Reigel can do two voices I've found!

That one voice he uses for EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THE SECOND VOICE.

And Teddie from Persona 4. He's surprisingly able to pull that off pretty well!
>> No. 81405
>>81400
Wow that's something alright.

Actual results aside, I'm really not sure this was one where there was ever a chance that the dub would match the sub. In this case it's because Ufotable just love the material waaaaay too much for any dub company to measure up to the casting effort. Everyone in the show sounds pretty much exactly how you'd think they would when you read the novel.
>> No. 81407
>>81405
>Ufotable
what, these were the same VAs from the drama CD which was made years ago, and if Ufotable had any input it was in keeping them rather than throwing them out
>> No. 81408
So any more news on the f/z social game that switched up the master and servants?

I'm really curious whether Kayneth and Berserker would be as hax as I assume they'd be.
>> No. 81412
>>81407
I've never listened to the drama CD (I don't speak Japanese so why would I). Of course at least some of them had to be the same, like Jougi Nakata, but I didn't know it was the whole cast.

Still, there was never a chance the dub would measure up.

Anyway, have ya'll seen the CCC OP? Shaft put it out awhile ago and it's... pretty Shaft.
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>>81412
>it's... pretty Shaft.

AHAHAHAHA OH JESUS RIGHT FROM THE THUMBNAIL ITS ALREADY SHAFT.
>> No. 81487
Fate/Zero English Dub on Neon …youtube thumb
Ok, then.
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http://utw.me/2013/02/15/fatezero-season-2-bd-batches/

HAHA, TIME FOR EINZBERN CONSULTATION!
>> No. 81582
Every time I pass this thread I think the coat hanger in the background of the OP image is something sticking out of his head (like one of those Halloween fake cleaver handle things). I don't know why.
>> No. 81742
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so how about that Fate/Extra CCC guys?
>> No. 81743
>>81742
Keeping myself out of plot spoilers, but someone already showed me the Archer/Gil beefcake pics and what are apparently CG rewards for fingering Red Saber or something

the fuck is going on with that game
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>>81743
Any new Servants besides the ones already revealed or is it just Karna and the horned Lancer?
>> No. 81761
>>81744
Like I said, I dunno, I'm trying to avoid information. I had Extra's insane ending and all the Servants spoiled for me when it first dropped in Japan, back when we thought we'd never get it.

What I do sadly know is that the Prisma Ilya anime has PVs out
『Fate/kaleid liner プリズ…youtube thumb
"PRISMAILIA"
>> No. 81773
>>81744
Well that didn't last long, since now I know a new Lancer: Elizabeth Batheroy
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Scratch that I know two, new Caster is Hans Christen Anderson

Also rumor has it that the ending is more batshit than the ending of Extra. I'm not sure how I feel about that, but it's not like there's anything that'd stop me from getting it.

Also that Secret Garden thing is not just for the four playable servantsmy friend showed me a Kotomine one
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>>81825
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1388750
you sure about that?
though if it was true it would certainly fulfill my deepest and darkest fantasies ♂
>> No. 83307
>>81827
Well it's probably fake but on the other hand TM's sense of humor is weird enough that I could see it being an easter egg.

But I bump this thread not for that, but for this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NEZzQsil7Zgkajr6ESYIoW1JNN6aeBuG4kE2SZWghXw/edit?pli=1
>(interviewer says something about K-On having female superiority)

>Nasu: No, instead of female superiority, that's just absence of men. It looks like girls are being prioritized, but if men don't appear to begin with, it's like nothing more than building a farm where there can be no antagonism. In that sense, women become more like mascots... it might mean looking down on them. Not by the creators, but by the audience. Speaking of my own works, people often tell me "Nasu-san, you really appreciate women's rights, because you write stories with strong girls in them", and I agreed too, but lately I started thinking that might not be the case. In Tsukihime and in Fate, the heroines Arcueid and Saber are the ones fighting on the front lines and the protagonists are behind them. In Kara no Kyoukai, the fighting is always left to the heroine Ryougi Shiki, and the protagonist Kokutou Mikiya becomes just the man who feeds the heroine. That composition is actually very male chauvinistic. When you think about physical strength and emotional strength, the latter is more difficult to achieve. Anyone can be strong if they pick up a weapon, but you can't become mentally strong just by obtaining a thing. In the works of Nasu Kinoko, strength in battle is possessed by the heroines, and the male characters symbolize emotional strength. When I noticed this, I felt like even I'm stuck in my ways [?] in some respects. For example Arcueid is said to be the strongest in the world of Type-Moon, but at the same time because she's in love with Shiki she tends to give in to what he says. At those times the man is the one put in a superior position. If it were truly even, Arcueid could use her superfluous power to send Shiki flying. Like "you two-timing bastard!" lol

>(interviewer says some stuff about arcueid who cares)

>Nasu: I'd want a truly powerful heroine to have the emotional specs to match. Rin and Saber and Arcueid aren't just dumb heroines. But, I can't say that the way the protagonists who only have emotional strength teach something to these perfect heroines doesn't look like a metaphor for how men win out in real society. If we're aiming for an even world, we shouldn't erase men like in K-On! or push the weakness of falling in love solely on the heroines, we should consider an equal relation.
>> No. 83308
>>83307
Huh. So he's become aware of "Fate//Stay in the Kitchen."
>> No. 83330
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>>83307
>push the weakness of falling in love solely on the heroines

Jesus christ this cliche pisses me off. I hate how it seems like an obligation in every series for the male protagonist to have at least one recurring female character fall for him for no reason other than because he's the main character. It only comes off as a cheap shill by the author to show that he is a Wonderful And Desirable Noble/Cool Hero, not to mention it often dips into Gary Stu territory.

And it's so ingrained that we're continue to see this crap played dead straight to this day on shows like Tiger and Bunny. At least I think they also pointed out that Karina was just into older guys to begin with and that it was a case of puppy love so Kotetsu didn't come off as so speshul. Even though I can see why a lot of people don't like Shingeki no Kyojin I still have to commend it for having the balls to show that yes, the MC is a total idiot at times, and that Mikasa's clinginess to him a Bad Thing she must learn to outgrow rather than proof of his machismo. It speaks volumes about how hard it is for mainstream writers to move past this trope that even something as simple making the hero NOT a Chick Magnet feels fresh and revolutionary.

At any rate it's good that Nasu is aware of this issue since it's a common one that drags the majority of series that are female heavy or romance-centric down. Not to mention it articulates why a lot of attempts at "strong women" in Western media fail to be properly compelling.
>> No. 83333
>>83307
>>83330
That actually is an impressive thing for him to confront in his own stuff. Be interesting to see what sort of material he comes up with in the next few years.
>> No. 83340
>>83330
Wait.

Not having seen T&B yet, it was shilled to me as a gay superhero romance anime. There's a female love interest?
>> No. 83341
>>83340

Not really. She likes him (high school girl crush), but he doesn't even acknowledge it.
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>>83340
>gay superhero romance anime
it's really not, even if the rabid shippers and promotional materials like to play it up as one

even within the series there's not a whole lot of stuff that really comes off as anything more than two friends who are concerned for each other going off the deep end, and what little stuff is actually shipper fodder is only mildly gay, aside from one or two odd lines (not that fangirls didn't still cry bloody murder and accuse Viz of a homophobic conspiracy for changing them to something a little less shippy)
>> No. 83368
>>83342
I guess it depends. If it was meant to be gay and they covered it up, it's homophobic. If it wasn't and people read too far into it, then it's on the viewer.
>> No. 83373
>>83368
The subtext was always there, enough so that the girl with the crush on Wild Tiger jokingly refers to Barnaby as "her rival," but it's really no worse than any bromance. Honestly, their bromance is probably less gay than, say, Turk & J.D. on Scrubs.
>> No. 83394
>>83368
I don't think many of the changes were that gay to begin with. Most of them were just changing the catchall "partner"/"aibou" to the slightly more professional "teammate" which people got reeallly mad about. The biggest change I remember was one of Kotetsu's lines in the second last episode going from "Your eyelashes are really long" to "You're holding me too close". But the original was so out-of-place and even OOC that it just sounded dumb, like blatant fangirlbait being shoehorned in. It's not like the English one changed the meaning that much anyway. The point was he was holding him so close he could see his eyelashes.

There was also a brief shitstorm over one of Paolin's lines being changed from "I want people to notice me" to "I want boys to notice me". If the original line meant she was just a shrinking violet who wanted more attention, then yeah I could see why people got mad. That's an actual mistranslation. But most of the fury was from a bunch of SJW, on /a/ even, accusing Viz of "gay erasure" even though nothing in the series itself suggests she's a lesbian. One of the drama CDs made a few jokes about her having a girlcrush on Karina but they were still just jokes. In terms of other non-shipping /a/ wank some people decided Paolin was a transsexual/genderfuck/whatever because of her tomboyishness, but I don't think most people took them seriously. As well as a few posters who are seriously convinced that everyone in the show is LGBT and the show is a landmark of queer progressiveness. I wish I was joking but I've seen it reposted on Tumblr so I guess they really are just that delusional.
>> No. 83395
Tiger and Bunny is my favorite Type Moon series.
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>>83395
Mine too.
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Happy birthday and Father's Day to the best dad ever.
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>panel 3
Okay Prisma Ilya, I will grant, that is actually funny.

Maybe I should try reading it again, I was in a pretty sour mood the first time, and scans were a mess.
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>>83432
oh god, are those who I think they are?
also SILVER LINK a shit, the only series I'm even considering touching with a ten foot pole is Watamote
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>>83446
>Lily not 3DS
>Lion not XBone
>> No. 83955
You know, long before Prisma Ilya was a thing, when Ruby was universally just called "the kaleidostick," I always figured it was a dirty old man (I'd obviously not read HA so I can't speak to how it was identified there). And then when I tried reading PI when that became a thing, I thought Sapphire was its lady counterpart.

Now the anime is out, and it turns out they're literally Kohaku and Hisui. Which I admit, might amuse me enough to keep me going. Also I feel like I should give PI another chance anyway since I was in a horrid mood when I first tried it.
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>>83955
97%
>> No. 86099
News here, news there:
First of all, on Commie's Mahoyo patch:
>On somewhat related note, TL for the VN had been completed 100% for a while; I just don’t care to update the folder, which is linked to the status update on the website. I’m on my first cycle of TLC.
Will this be yet another thing to beat FHA to the finish line? Almost certainly!

And then there's this:
http://www.fate-sn.com/
Checked it out via a JP proxy. Trailer's not really anything new except for a couple shots. Starts out with some Fate Zero stuff (with the trailer/summon song from FZ), then transitions into some FSN Vita footage, replete with EMIYA in the background. There's a little tiny bit of new stuff at the end. Still doesn't really explain if they're going to do a specific route or try for some completely insane combo.
>> No. 86174
Well the next TM Ace apparently has more solid info on the new FSN anime, but while we wait for that and everything, here's the trailer for Meteor's new.... thing.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18zgtc

I don't know.
>> No. 86414
Zvesda episode one was really fucking dumb.
>> No. 86483
I think Zvesda is okay, character designs aside.

It's got the lines "swear fealty to me and I'll share my snacks and the world with you" and "Lincoln had potential, but he was weak to bullets" if nothing else.

Also there was that comment Meteor made about robo butt that was kind of funny.
>> No. 86484
>Zvesda
Wait what is this?
>> No. 86485
>>86484
A series by Hoshizawara Meteo, late of Liarsoft and creator of Forest (http://vndb.org/v599). He was hired by Type Moon awhile ago after he quit Liarsoft because they forced him to do porn. He's the one in charge of Girl's Work, and the writer of Fire Girl, the book that launched alongside Apocrypha as part of TM Books.

World Conquest Zvesda Plan is this weird show airing this season with him as a screen writer. It's about a bunch of Russaboos trying to conquer the world while wearing dumb costumes.
>> No. 86487
>>86485
>quit old company because they forced him to do porn
Wow, that's a first. Normally I hear the opposite.
>> No. 86540
I guess I'm starting to warm to Zvesda. It's nothing great, but it's getting a bit funnier and we MUST encourage new IP I suppose.

I'm still confused as to what the deal with the Russian codenames is though. They don't seem to just be random, both minions are just numbered members and the professor is "mind" so I'd assume that there's a reason for the others (well, VEHEPA might be just Kate's narcissism).

>>86487
It's actually supposed to be a pretty common complaint for VN writers because of the way the Japanese PC market used to be (I'm given to understand that the growing base for regular games and non-porn VNs is changing this though).
>> No. 86685
Holy fuck Zvesda 3.

Also: the new Fate anime is going to have some kind of original content and HA is coming to the Vita.
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