http://utw.me/2012/04/08/fatezero-14/

And for those that are sticklers about video quality, there's the UTW release of 14.

God I'm happy to have this show back.

Does Beserker's "take over a jet fighter" technique have a name?

>>73592
Yes, as does the fog that surrounds him, but it's all related to his true identity.

Ability to wield anything as a Noble Phantasm: Knight of Honor: A Knight Does Not Die with Empty Hands

Fog: For Someone's Glory: Not For One's Own Glory

He also has one other one.

I like that Gil just has a fucking flying throne.

I'm confused, but if the crest worms are inside Kariya's body, and they first appeared behind him, then where the hell did they come out of? In the books I think he puked them out, but in the anime that part was supposed to be his reaction to Berserker's powers. And the other alternative is too disgusting...

Mahotsukai no Yoru is now available for preorders, for those who care.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1334386665?via=thumb_watch

AWWW YEAHHHHH

>>73809
I love UFOtable for that.

Just saw the last ep. Damn this show just keeps on outdoing itself.

Shame about the lack of Enkidu though, if Ufotable really is going the fujoshi route they missed out on a prime opportunity.

Well now that Team COOOOL is out of the way, how about random trivia nobody gives a shit about?

For example, the fact that Gilles is not actually supposed to be a Caster at all. As he himself says, he was not a mage in life, but a knight. He's only summoned as Caster because Ryuunosuke made mistakes during the summoning ritual, which is why every time you see him do magical stuff he's consulting Prelati's spellbook, and why he needs it power as a mana furnace to cast things.

This is also why he seems so much more physical than Medea was, doing things like punching that woman Ryuunosuke was staking, or crushing the child's head, while Medea got suckerpunched by Rin. He's supposed to be a Saber.

He also supposedly has an E ranked skill called Eye For Art, where if he sees a Noble Phantasm with artistic qualities, he might be able to figure out its true name. I guess he'd be 5th War Archer's natural enemy if not for the fact that Kanshou and Byakuya would just murder the shit out of his monsters.

The funniest part about Gilles and Ryuunosuke though is that they have the happiest deaths in the series.

Read somewhere that had the Einzberns not already gotten Arturia Diarmuid would've been summoned as the Saber class, which he was actually better at anyway, and he'd still be dual-wielding with two swords. Where is that from, and if that's true that's damn awesome.

>>73842
I don't know about him being "better" as a Saber necessarily, since I don't know what Moralltach and Beagalltach DO, however Saber as a class has the best base stats and is generally considered the ideal class, it is believed that Kayneth might have been aiming for him to be Saber.

It won't matter in an episode anyway.

He died the way he lived; covered in blood and in a state of euphoria.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1335000898
RIP Fast Wheels, Solut, and WAGA ARU G. Fuck you Kiritsugu ;_;

>Diarumuid...
>Yes Saber?
>KILL YOURSELF

>>74065
Is it just me or is Diarmuid a way more plausible and apt pairing for Arturia than Shirou ever was.

They actually had chemistry for one thing.

>>74068
Yeah, having played the VN before watching the FSN anime I could understand Saber and Shirou as soulmates who understand each other on an intellectual level but in terms of actual romance Saber and Diarmuid have a lot more overt chemistry. Saber/Diarmuid for love and Saber/Shirou for heterosexual bromance I guess.

I recall Nasu saying something in one of the recent interviews about how he considers Saber/Shirou a romance as opposed to Rin or Sakura, where it's about love, saying that a romance is all about ideals whereas love is about more down to earth things like proper chemistry. Personally I'm of the "Saber is Rin's and Shirou is Rin's" camp so hey whatever.

Either way, I get the distinct impression a lot of Pixiv artists may not have actually known how this goes down (or didn't care) because MY GOD there's so much art of these two. Then again there's a load of happy fun times Gilles/Joan/Ryuunosuke stuff too perhaps the simpler answer is that fans are just weird.

>>74072
Based on the fact that a lot of the shippers also have some depressing Saber/Lancer or Kayneth/Lancer art in their galleries I think it's a case of the latter. But even as a not especially hard shipper of the two it definitely felt like there was something going on between the two in the anime in comparison to the novel where they came off more as birds of a feather.

>>74072
That actually makes a lot of sense.

>>74086
Its in those lingering looks and touches and the fact that they really do play off to each other's characters well.

>>74086
Oh I definitely see where it comes from, I agree that they added that undertone to the anime (although it's possible Urobuchi meant that from the start, he's fucked up like that), it just sort of feels like a whole lot of people got their hopes up here. And considering the huge number of people who seem to be watching knowing NOTHING of FSN, I'd say that's even plausible.

Relatedly, the internet is alight with Kiritsugu Rage right now. Wonder how they'll feel after the story of a man who, more than anything believed in his ideals?

>>74089
I always thought Kiritsugu was disappointingly dull, and reading his past in book 4 only made it worse really
hell even with Heart of Freaks I liked reading about Natalia more than him
the only times I enjoyed him on screen were because there was someone else more interesting, like Ilya or Kotomine

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1335540121?via=thumb_watch

Well with that we're done with book 3 (and actually had a bit of Book 4 but it was out of order), The Scattered Ones. Next time we start Book 4, The Flames of Purgatory (pic related) properly, with some Kiritsugu backstory.

Book 3's postface is written by someone named Tanaka Romeo. I have no idea who this is and it's an uninteresting bit of writing, but I'm posting it for completion's sake.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Volume_3_Postface

>>74272
Wait I thought it was episode 17...

>>74284
It is, I'm just a fuck up!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1336208848?via=thumb_watch

Kiritsugu backstory!

So it's a two parter, that I didn't see coming. There's not enough left of the story for another episode though, unless they dip into Heart of Freaks, which is too long. More original content then?

Shota Kiritsugu is hnnnngh~

So it seems the new thing is not, surpringly, Shirley porn. No, instead pixiv hath delivered a glorious flood of shota Kiritsugu. Also shota Tokiomi and Kariya/Berserker stuff alongside random shots of Kirei just laying around in bondage. The former I find even more inexplicable than regular Tokiomi stuff, and the latter isn't any fun without say, Gil. Kariya and Berserker I expect we'll be seeing a lot more of considering that the novel has them necking in Kariya's dreams. Also I finally checked out Cannabis's Waver/Rider doujin. Nice stuff, though I'd rather have seen Xration do something like she was rumored to have been considering. This has been your fujoshi update for the week.

>>74528
>spoilers
Wait, really?

>>74629
If it's the scene I'm thinking of, then uh... kind of.

>>74629
Berserkers are mana hogs, and in times of desperation the only way to get more is semen or blood. Guess which one Berserker went for.

Can't find the Nasu general, so I'll say it here. I'm playing KT right now, and holy shit it's weird how they basically made a sandbox VN with the looping days mechanic.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1336817780?via=thumb_watch

Kerrytugu adventures

>>74741
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY KIRITSUGU

You're gonna save that world. ~Never seen a blue sky~

19's script from Gen's twitter.

>>74771
Is this a reference to something else like Doctor Who?

>>74772
Kamen Rider. Kamen Fucking Rider.

>>74771
THIS PLEASES GAGA

http://utw.me/2012/05/20/fatezero-20/

Completely forgot the thread this week.

>>74950
I've been pretty lenient with judgiing Ufotable on their pacing since I know it's the kind of show that's best marathoned but this whole episode was rushed as fuck
plus they changed the part where Kiritsugu was sniping at Waver to him just looking for Tokiomi which was disappointing as hell

>>74953
Yeah it didn't do much for me. I've said this from the start, but while this is an EXCELLENT adaptation the medium sort of prevents it from incorporating Urobuchi's narration.

On the plus side, they cut the bit about Maiya's son, which I felt was laying it on JUST A LITTLE BIT THICK in the novels.

>>74960
the fact that she herself was a mother too[spoiler] was interesting to me, especially since it emphasized that Irisviel was doing everything for Ilya
I'd rather they kept it in but make it from something consensual as opposed to Urobuchi's stupid [spoiler]rape fetish, like a one-night stand or fling with a dude who then died

>>74961
I don't think it's really a fetish thing, Urobuchi just needs MAXIMUM DARKNESS (or did at the time anyway). Usually I don't mind that, but here it felt like a last minute addition that just ratcheted things up pointlessly.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1338043988?via=thumb_watch
In a nutshell: Initial D - Running in The 90s

Also, Type Moon is doing a twitter Q&A
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23TM10thQA

>>75067
HOLY SHIT SABER! Was that Excalibur really necessary? Although she does have an actual mage for a master this time so she CAN use it a little more freely.

and of course a HOLY SHIT for Kotomine as well. Just... damn man...

http://utw.me/2012/06/03/fatezero-22/

This is the last even slightly chill episode, everything goes totally to shit next week.

>>75337
the last few episodes have been kind of dry but those last scenes with Iri at the end were fucking awesome

>let's go looking for Lancer fanart!
>i don't particularly mind gay stuff so surely no horrors await me in the pixiv tag
>surely
>first picture is of reverse-dickgirl-man-with-vagina-lancer on his period

japan

why do you do these things

why do you do the things you do

>>75356
Link plz!

>>75360
I was too busy backspacing at the speed of light to keep the link so here, have something cute and not soul-scarring instead.

thankfully haven't seen any horrible pussyboy Diarmuid but there's a hilarious amount of hentai where Saber bones him with a magical penis or a strapon
hell I actually can't even think of a single fanart where Diarmuid actually tops, even when he gets to j-j-j-jam it in Saber still tops from the bottom

>>75428
He's just got that kind of personality.

I personally approve of Saber sweeping him off his feet because it manages to be both cute and hilarious.

>>75428

I've noticed from wandering around pixiv that even some of the most hardcore fujoshi seem to have a soft spot for Lancer/Saber in between their celebrations of the gay. Which might have to do with all the strap-on action. Write what you know, I guess.

It's also because Saber has actually had a dick in canon before.

No I'm not kidding.

>>75435
Mordred says hi

>>75433
If there's anything fans love, it's unresolved sexual tension and tragedy. And Lancer/Saber have TONS of it.

>>75439
Yeeeaaah that's what I was talking about. You'd think that "he's a homunculus" would be sufficient explanation but okay Incubus Prankster+Sperm Jacking, sure.

Anyway, Girl's Work should be the next Type Moon product UFOtable rolls out, but I wonder about after that. If anything it'll probably be a full Fate/Prototype project, but I think I'd rather them get away from Fate. Maybe we could get a REAL Tsukihime anime that adapts the manga or fuses the 3 Far Side routes like how the manga fused the 2 Near Side routes. Or hell, maybe a Melty Blood anime so we can finally see this glorious motherfucker cut loose.

>>75449
Or I guess TM and UFOtable could troll everyone and just say "lol Tsukihime 2."

Animated Mr Dawn and partner. Also DAAs, DAAs everywhere. We still have no idea what Ortense even looks like even though he's actually super fucking important lore-wise.

>>75449
nah, Fate/Prototype has some interesting ideas in it but a bunch of not-so-good ones too so I don't think it would make for a good full series, besides I'd rather they focus on Mahoyo or do a new project altogether anyway
and Tsukihime is overrated anyway, fuck the Shikifags and their nonstop circlejerking/self-inserting through him

>>75451
I don't think a whole lot of people are self-inserting as Shiki personally. I mean, consider that unlike Shirou, most of Shiki's love interests are a hair's breadth from snapping into psychotic frenzies and murdering him, and the fact that Shiki has an explicitly dwindling lifespan anyway.

Tsukihime itself suffers mostly from technical problems, a lot of the scenes are the same from route to route save for one or two words, so they don't get skipped by the skip read scene option. Meanwhile we have old ass CGs that suffering from Takeuchi's poor coloring skills, and not a lot of those or the sprites so the fights scenes aren't nearly as good as those in Fate.

My main reason for wanting to see Tsukihime 2 has nothing to do with any of that though, as I said I want to see the bits teased in the Tsukihime 2 prologue short stories play out. I'd like to see all the factions converging on the Aylesbury ritual go crazy, both the various Dead Apostle factions to the two big human ones.

But as I said, whether we want it or not I really think that Prototype is on the table simply because Fate series sell, and Type Moon hasn't really got anything that digs deep into the female market yet unless you count the fujoshi who latched onto Zero.

Mahoyo I'm holding back my judgement on until it's actually translated but I'm STILL really angry about the whole "oh we delayed it for an assload of time but surprise it's a trilogy" thing.

>>75449
I'd actually really like to see the story of a Grail War playing out traditionally, with no rules-fuckery/cheating/corruption. Just a bunch of mages and kickass historical figures duking it out the way they know best in a competition for the ultimate reward.

Which is pretty much impossible to expect from a Nasuverse product, but I think it would be fun.

>>75455
Well... there's Extra. Sort of.

>>75456
But I don't have a console :(

Also I still don't understand the whole "Nero looks exactly like Arturia" thing. Is a reason why ever provided in-game?

That reminds me, who is Fate/Extra's Caster supposed to be, anyway?

>>75458
There's never a given reason for it in-universe from what I recall, it's just something... Wada I believe the artist for Extra is named did.

The playable Caster in Extra is, to quote the game itself
In Fate/Extra, Tamamo-no-Mae is a soul that branched off from Amaterasu and her true identity is not that of a nine-tailed fox, but rather is treated as one of the facets of said goddess.

Also, its a big mistake to categorize her as an Heroic Spirit.

Because Tamamo-no-Mae turned into a Heroic Spirit in order to realize her wish of "becoming a good wife", she cannot manifest her original power.

In the case that she is revived as an evil spirit, she will undergo a transformation into a large monster that can defeat even 100 heroes. It is not just for show that she is called one of Japan's Three Great Monsters.

The Grail War in Extra is barely related to the normal one though, she would never qualify for the Fuyuki war, even in Extra's universe (which splits off from the main timeline after an incident in the 70s caused mana to start disappearing from the world).

>>75460
>those spoilers

Well, that... certainly is a thing. Is she written well, at least?

>>75461
I didn't get far in her path, just beat Nero and Archer.

One of the big complaints I have about Extra (even though I do like the game) is that your Servant choice doesn't really change the plot that much. Which given the structure of Extra's story, makes sense, but makes it really boring to actually play through all the routes.

From what I did play of her path, I wasn't really liking her much though. I DID however actually end up liking Nero, which was shocking because she was the part I was most expecting to hate.

>>75462

From a quick scan of her wiki bio I think I'm already predisposed to like Nero, but I just can't get over the fact that she's her own original character and yet looks exactly like Arturia Saber for no apparent reason. I mean, Archer I can get because he apparently acts enough like Archer classic, and if she just looked sort of like Arturia I could stomach it, but down to the hairstyle? It just seems so unnecessarily confusing and pointless.

My assumption is that either the designer really, really wanted to put Saber in to the game, original character be damned, or they were aiming for brand recognition through Saber's design.

...Wait, why would Nero be Saber class in the first place?

>>75463
Wada's stated reasoning was, I believe, "no other design is suited for the hero's Saber" or something to that effect, so yeah brand recognition basically, same reason that she's FUCKING NERO. But she's actually a lot of fun, her personality is like a benevolent Gilgamesh, and some random conversations you can have with her include her babbling on about things like plays she liked or the fact that she didn't actually hide her gender, she was just dressing like that because she found it fashionable.

Archer IS Archer classic, just based on the you-know-who of that universe, so he differs in some fine details.

That said the Extra sequel (well not a sequel, but basically a Far Side/Heaven's Feel equivalent), CCC, is actually going to have a PLAYABLE FUCKING GILGAMESH alongside the original trio. I cannot conceive how that would work unless he's some broken as fuck New Game+ option. You can't even balance him by saying "oh well PC is a weak mage" because Gate of Babylon explicitly takes only a little prana to open and then it's NP spam time.

If you want to play Extra but don't have a PSP, it actually emulates pretty well, or so I'm told (I just bought it).

>>75463
It's the former. They really, really like Saber.

>>75464
I'll see if I can get it emulated, then.

Yeah I have... no clue how Gilgamesh would fit in to anything but endgame. Considering his personality, they could maybe conceivably play it as Gilgamesh refusing to help early-on because he's kind of a prick, but put the grail into the equation and there's no good reason why he wouldn't go all out.

Or maybe he'll only look like Gilgamesh and get a completely different personality like Saber? Since Archer is, you know, Archer, he might get a different playable servant designation.

>>75468
No he's still an Archer, or should be. The Extra Grail War has 120 participants.

It's also inside a virtual world called the Serial Phantasm, the computer that runs it being the fucking MOON. Magi in extra are hackers who put their soul into machines.

Gilgamesh isn't in the original Extra but CCC is supposed to be when the nice, orderly tournament from Extra breaks down.

>>75486
...120? The moon? I suppose that's what >>75456's "sort of" meant.

It would make sense for him to be classed Archer from a plot standpoint, but from a video game standpoint having you pick between Saber, Caster, Archer, or That Other Archer would be kind of weird.

That Gilgamesh, always fucking with the war rules some way or the other. What a scamp.

I forgot that I'd drawn this up way back when.

https://www.typemoon.com/10thvote/
Type Moon's doing a new popularity poll for their 10th anniversary as a company. Voting goes from now until the last Fate Zero episode.

There's not a snowball's chance in hell the top 3 won't be some combination of Saber, Rin, and Arcrueid, but if you can get through the moonrunes then feel free to try for Kariya or something.

>>75562
Somewhere out there, someone shares my opinion on who the best girl is.

>>75575

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1339246755

LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUMBLE!

>>75575
>>75578
I voted for Kotomine, Iskander, and Kohaku personally.

>>75593
see it's funny because today is the day Alexander the Great died in real life get it get
;_;

>>75605
He also died in Babylon

>>75607
A little disappointed they didn't do much in the way of Guinevere and the Round Table, they were the most interesting thing about Berserker's character.

Fate/Zero 【MAD】ウェイ�…

~MOE

>>75704
That's what you get when you look like you're twelve in an anime.

that feel when someone shows you posts from Tumblr detailing how Diarmuid is an evil misogynist or how Fate/Zero is a tool of the patriarchy to perpetuate female submission

>>75753
I laugh more at the constant complaining about how the VILLAINS being rapists and murderers clearly means that Nasu and Urobuchi hate women and approve of such activities.

Now, the idea that all the villains being serial killers and a lot being rapists can cause the viewer to become jaded and stop giving a shit about such occurences is an argument with more merit. Maybe it's time for a Nasuverse Phantom Thief and mage detective.

>>75753

>>tumblr

Welll there's your problem...

>>75753
>detailing how Diarmuid is an evil misogynist

Oh man, I saw that post!
I'm pretty sure it's just a result of the writer being a Kayneth fangirl. You see that a lot since fandom discovered SJ - instead of saying "I don't like this pairing because it breaks up my OTP!!" or whatever, they've found they can get a lot more mileage out of saying "I don't like this pairing because it enforces *ism ideals!!".

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1339860329?via=thumb_watch

HEARTWARMING STATUS: NEARING MAXMIMUM
NUMBER OF CAST MEMBERS REMAINING: RUNNING LOW

Also for those wondering where the rest of this episode went, yeah it's BD content.
https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/214021914283352064

FUCK
ME

Just...

DAMN...

They fucked up Berserker's backstory and made him look like he got swatted aside by Saber, that better be put back in for the BDs.

They also dialed back the horrific nature of The grail quite a bit. I still liked the episode but you can tell it got edited down like all hell.

>>75838
Yeaaah. I'm gonna wait for the BDs before I start getting mad, but they cut some fairly fucking important stuff from this episode.

One thing that I'm pretty sure they WON'T be adding though is Emiya -time alter- Kaijura Mix. THEY MADE A FATE ANIME WITH NO EMIYA REMIX. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

>>75852
not really Kajiura's style, didn't think it would be up her alley the way Sword of Promised Victory would be
on that note HAPPY FATHER'S DAY KIRITSUGU

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/06/18/fatezero-next-encounter-suggests-more-alternate-masterservant-pairings

>>75895
That is exactly the face I would expect Kayneth to make if he got Berserker and knew what he was capable of.

>>75895
Lancer with Waver could be... either surprisingly effective or another disaster, seeing as Waver really needed someone to rein him in when he's being a dumbass and Lancer wouldn't.

And wow, Kariya and Caster. There's definitely going to be an interesting conversation about the whole child-murdering thing.

Also Kayneth and Berserker? Oooooh shit.

The hilarious thing is that Kariya and Caster would actually probably be a step up for Kariya, since Prelati's Spellbook is the source of all of Caster's powers and is a Prana Furnace, as opposed to Berserker who, well... you've seen how that worked out.

Waver/Lancer is just the most hilariously worthless pairing, it's about as threatening as wet toilet paper.

>>75899
At least this raises the chance of Lancer having a noble death like he'd prefer instead of a miserable, shitty one.

Ah who am I kidding with his luck he'll die in a fire.

>>75900
Well the funny thing about Lancer is that he has one little secret going for him:
Gae Dearg is the only NP that can actually pierce Gil's golden armor, which otherwise can take multiple strikes from Excalibur without getting scratched.

So there's that I guess.

>>75895
So wait, what's a "social game" in this context?

>>75905
clearly it's going to be FuyukiVille
next logical step after VNs -> animu -> mango -> vidya

>>75905
We don't know!

But we do have more script pages.

Also, the guy who did Crucis Fatal Fake, a fighting game I never played but am told is significantly less terrible than the official Fate Unlimited Codes, is doing a weird Dynasty Warriors clone!

FATAL ZERO ACTION PV

Looks kind of bad, but funny to mess around with. So it really is a Dynasty Warriors clone.

>>75920
Any video game where I can play as Rider is a video game I will play.

>>75920
will I be able to punch shit up as Kung Fu Priest?

>>75360
Welp, found it: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27688831
Hope you don't mind pissing and shota, among other stuff.

This is the most fun thing to repost since WhyIsIllyaSoHeartless.gif

>>76028
Please tell me you weren't actively looking for it.

>>76040
Nah, just happen to like the artist in general. Went to check if she had anything new and... Welp.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1340453326?via=thumb_watch

The End of Reminiscence ~ Tsui…

And here's the final script page.

OVERALL: A damn fine adaptation. It had some changes and omissions in the fine details that lightened things up which I (mostly) didn't mind too much, but it did feel a tad rushed there at the end. Also I'm honestly not sure if people who don't know already will realize that Kiritsugu died from how that last scene was handled. In fact I suspect people who went in cold turkey have to be confused about a number of things.

>>76096
that acoustic version of To the Beginning was ;_;
I hope it shows up on the OST but I doubt it
I'm still waiting for that instrumental Sis Puella Magi afterall

also Jouji Nakata speaking in Engrish was amazing

I was bothered by the lack of All the Evils in the World (unless that song that played during the descent was some unrecognizable remix), but yes the acoustic To the Beginning was depressing as hell.

I liked Nakata's sermon, but not nearly as much as the maniacal laughter after an entire show of restraint. Also that facial animation. Kirei's trying his best to hold back a shit eating grin over making a little girl cry. Aaaaamazing.

Oh hey and they cut this little gem I'd forgotten about:

“Hmm, it is rather regrettable. Heroes have a time limit too, and it’s hard to fulfill once you become an adult. It would have been better if I realized that earlier.”

Had he realized it earlier – then he wouldn’t have been tricked by the sweet lie of miracles that flew the banner called dreams.

Kiritsugu had once released a demon powerful enough to destroy the world because of his aspirations. It was too late when he finally realized his mistake. Countless people had died because of it, including Shirō’s own father and mother.

And that harbinger of Hell was still lurking beneath Mount Enzō even now. After that battle, Kiritsugu had repeatedly visited that place with dynamite, and spent years to map out the situation of a few leylines. He had meticulously created a ‘bump’ at a location leading towards Mount Enzō. That might be the last time for him to use magecraft in his life.

The prana produced from the junction of numerous leylines will collect upon that ‘bump’ with time. When its limit is reached, a localized earthquake will be triggered deep within Mount Enzō. It would take a minimum of 30 years and a maximum of about 40 years for the ‘bump’ to break. If all his calculations were correct, then the cavern within Mount Enzō would collapse and seal away the “Greater Grail” forever. Though he would not be able to live to see that day, Kiritsugu had done the best he could to prevent the fifth Heaven’s Feel 60 years later.

did they also cut out Saber Alter in the battle against Gilgamesh? I can understand since it was kind of confusing and unnecessary fanservice in the original, but they could've at least kept in the parts about Berserker corrupting Excalibur easily

>>76096
Why did he die exactly? Was it the effects of using his time magic?

>>76099
>Kirei's trying his best to hold back a shit eating grin over making a little girl cry. Aaaaamazing.
It's the subtle touches.

>>76123
When he rejected the Grail, it cursed him, which started to ravage his body. This is also why he could never reach Ilya again, because even though breaking barriers was something he was excellent at as the Magus Killer, his ravaged body couldn't do such magic anymore.

Oddly enough, not the first T2 joke made about Fate Zero.

The first one was made by Nasu.

And on that note, I no longer count this as a spoiler.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Waver_Velvet#Lord_El-Melloi_II

what's with all the pics of Maiya and cake?
drama CD? character material? VA? original meme?

Resuming F/SN where I left it off. Partway through Fate Route. If we could spend more time on Noble Phantasms and less on breakfast, that would be awesome.

Also, what the flying fuck was THIS, Shirou???

>>76162
Takajun has said this is a translation error on his part (which makes sense given that it is literally the most out of place line in the entire game).

Actually a lot of the weird shit in early Nasu is due to translation fuckups, like that "mollusk" business from KT.

>>76158
This I've no answer to.

>>76163

I don't suppose he happened to mention what it was actually supposed to be?

>>76162
As Rodyle say, it's a translation error. Takajun did FSN mostly by himself, as opposed to Tsukihime which was both smaller and had... two other translators I think it was. Between that and Takajun being a non-native English speaker, FSN has a few big errors, especially early on. That line in particular irritates because it's the exact opposite of everything Shirou is supposed to be. The actual line is something about Shirou repeatedly telling Ayako to be careful, something along those lines.

>>76164
>>76166
Personally I don't speak any Japanese so I can only take the word of those that do and compare the line Shirou's character in the rest of the game (which it doesn't match).

FSN has problems (oh god do not get me started on fucking Heaven's Feel) but I genuinely believe that particular bit isn't the game.

Anyway, Zero's done, which means there's a final few extras from the novels:
Postface by Gen:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Volume_4_Postface

Commentary by Nasu:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Volume_4_Commentary

SIDE STORY IN WHICH NATALIA AND KIRITSUGU DISCOVER THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SLURM
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Heart_Of_Freaks

And now we wait for the BR extras!

so, is there a single named male in this show who HASN'T gotten in on some sort of gay action yet?
for fuck's sake there's even porn of Noritaka, Acht, Caster's first victim, and as I just found out, the T-shirt delivery boy from episode 7 out there...

>>76197
...The Canadian old guy Waver stayed with? Maybe? I'm not going to look.

>>76197
Hey, come on now. You don't have to look and it's normally not as detailed as straight porn so quit bitching.

>>76197
Hey, come on now. You don't have to look and it's normally not as detailed as straight porn so quit bitching.

>>76209
come on, chill out

>>76200
oh yeah, you're right, closest thing I've seen is some comics on the 'Boorus of him dressing Waver in a girl kimono because it's cute but it's pretty G-rated stuff
oh and I guess there's also BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES guy, but he was so ridiculous I don't think anybody wants to touch that one...

>>76220
>3 of these have been dumped on /a/ and I read all of them
>the only one that wasn't dumped was the Iri/Saber one, which I can't find
why

>Finished Fate route

God DAMN that was an awful romantic subplot. Nothing was more tedious than reading pages and pages of Shirou and Saber being socially awkward towards another over the smallest shit. I'd have taken a resurgence of Breakfast over that bullshit. Some good stuff did come of it but that could have easily worked just as well as a platonic bromance.

That said, once the plot actually kicked in, I enjoyed basically everything that WASN'T the romance.

>>76305
It's tempting to compare F/SN to Homestuck. The Fate route is something you just kind of have to suffer through before UBW can kick down your door and set fire to your house.

>>76305
>they would've worked platonic bromance
you know, maybe I'm misremembering but I think Nasu might've admitted as much, that their relationship was less because they were a boy and a girl and more because of the stuff in their heads

>>76332
http://www.tsukikan.com/misc/nasu-kinoko-takeuchi-takashi-urobuchi-gen-special-forum.html
>Nasu: "Romance" is something where a couple blindly pursue each other's ideals. "Love," on the other hand, is something where two people accept each other, including the painful reality that comes with it. There are no ideals to be found there. It's just about coming to terms with reality. They don't even have time to dream... but you can't just keep pushing harsh realities over the hopes and dreams of young people. Let's talk about something more fun!

To The Overtime - Quad City DJs vs Fate/Zero
oh god

>Urobuchi once made a goddamn Equilibrium fanfic
Oh god wat
http://vndb.org/v1390

by the way, I've heard rumors that Ufotable might be adapting Heaven's Feel rather than DEEN, any idea how realistic that is?

>>76491
Given the Fate/Zero anime seems financially rather successful (correct me if I'm wrong), Ufotable is probably more likely.

The real question is more if such a work will be made at all.

So as far as I can tell, here's everything announced the first day of the 10th anniversary event. We're relying on 3rd party info from event goers so this might not be the full story but:

-Kara no Kyoukai Mirai Fukuin anime
-Tsukihime Remake PV
-Fate/Stay Night Realta Nua for PS Vita with OP Movie by Ufotable
-Fire Girls novel by Hoshizora Meteor
-Tsuki no Sango manga by Sasaki Shounen
-Fate/Apocrypha Novel release date
-Fate/Extra Sound Drama CD Series
-HibiChika new Drama CD

>>76568
any new announcements today?

>>76590
I can't actually seem to find any new stuff except the Male Character Poll's top 10.

1 - Archer (SN)
2 - Rider (Zero)
3 - Gilgamesh
4 - Kiritsugu
5 - Shirou
6 - Waver
7 - Lancer (SN)
8 - Kirei (Zero)
9 - Karya
10 - Kirei (SN)

I can't find the female listing at all beyond the fact that winner was Saber like everyone knew would happen from the start.

...But then I spent the entire day either at work or playing ML Unlimited so I'm probably missing shit.

>>76593
>Kotomine placing twice
I rejoiced

Oh here we are. Numbers confirmed!
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/07/08/results-announced-for-type-moons-10th-anniversary-character-poll
>Sakura over Kohaku
>Borderline non-character Ryougi gets 2nd place

>>76628
Could you really count her as a non-character with all those movies under her belt?

>>76628
given how awesome she and the KnK movies were I think she deserves that spot, though Sakura beating Kohaku makes me want to eat someone

I guess it's partially just that I'm not a huge KnK fan in the first place, but Shiki to me has always come across as having very little personality, particularly compared to her more energetic male counterpart. She's not DEVOID of character traits and she does some cool shit, but... I dunno, just doesn't do much for me.

Actually what I'm curious about is how the hell Mr King of Heroes jumped up to number 3. I mean, I think he's great and all but I didn't think people liked him THAT much.

>>76652
I'm willing to bet it's the fujoshi secondaries from Fate/Zero, though if that's true I don't really get it since I don't even find him THAT good looking, but that's just my lolopinions

Gilgamesh is in most of the works, he's got a lot of personality and power, and yes he can act extremely gay for fangirls. Why WOULDN'T he be super popular?

>>76669

>>76679
I like how nobody actually draws the worksafe versions of the dickworms, ever

>>76681
*until now
crap, forgot that pretty important last part

http://boards.4chan.org/a/res/68403417

Holy SHIT, the new artbook looks fucking incredible.

http://paper2k1.egloos.com/

Oh here's the original source, featuring images I'm fairly certain the thread skipped.

Seriously though, there's official Tohno/Sacchin art now. I don't know what's going on anymore.

>>76695
>hurr is Shiki is such a pimp LOLOLOLZ GLANDDDD I WANNA BE HIM AND FUCK ALL THE HAWT GIRRRLLLZZZ WHO CARES IF I DIE I GET CHICKZ AND AWESOME CHUUNI POWAS ROFLE xD
this is exactly why I hate Shiki Tohno fagboys

Hmm I dont recognize a couple...

Everyone in the top right in
>>76695

And the girl left of Canaan
>>76696

>>76723
Some online cell phone shit TM started doing awhile ago and the MC of Girl's Work, respectively.

do we know if Tsukihime Remake has H scenes or not? because if it doesn't I will bask in the fanboys' glorious butthurt for a loooong time

>>76732
Wait, they're ALREADY remaking the anime?!

>>76732
It's unclear but I doubt that it will given Type Moon's overall direction these days (Prisma Ilya aside).

Most of us are actually fine with this because it means that Satsuki still won't get any. It will in fact, still be sad to be Sacchin.

>>76735
stop it

>Fate/Tales of
anyone know what this is about?
I like both series so this could be pretty interesting

>>76860
I'm being told it's a poster for a festival. As in, an actual festival, not an anime thing. Apparently UFOtable does that sometimes.

>>76871
Goddammit HEART SKIPPED A BEAT JUST TO BE CRUSHED

>>76871
I am disappoint
;_;

>Getting started on Unlimited Blade Works
>That conversation in the church with Kotomine, knowing what you know from the end of Fate route

>Kuzuki

>>77163
>Suddenly it's a scene from fucking Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

Grunkle Stan - Well that happened

>>77163
That reminds me how a lot people think Servants are like the be all end all of ultimate power but they seem to forget about Kuzuki nearly punching off everyones heads (or succeeding in the case of the bad ends...

Which ALSO reminds me that I love how in a couple of the bad ends Taiga is just "yeah that really was the sane and rational choice there but you're Shirou thats not your thing."

>>77177

Well I'm pretty sure it said that Kuzuki was able to do that because Caster was magically enhancing his blows, but...yeah. Yikes.

Alright, finished Unlimited Blade Works. I'm a little unclear about a few things with the ending (what the hell happened to Gil after you beat him? Isn't Archer dead?) but in general I think it was a pretty damn awesome ride. There was a lot less boring bullshit than Fate route, that's for sure.

On the other hand...except for possibly the final fight and Kuzuki's first fight, I can't think of a single scene with quite as much impact and HOLY SHIT as when Saber first unveiled Excalibur. So yeah, much better on the whole, but I think Fate route still holds the prize for single-scene impact.

On the other other hand, Lancer was all over the fucking place in this route, and he was consistently the best character in any given scene. Fuck, that was awesome.

>>77190
I'm still confused about Archer's happy ending too. If Shirou still believes in his ideal, doesn't that mean he's still going to contract with the world and end up like Archer? Is it because he loves it that he will still be OK with while Archer isn't? Or is it because he realizes it's a flawed ideal anyway, making the fall for him not as great as the one Archer suffered?

>>77191

I think it's more that the problem with Archer wasn't the ideal, it was him blindly following it and never thinking about his own needs. Archer became embittered to the point where he began to think that the ideal itself was at fault, but the real problem was lack of moderation.

Nasu says that the chances of Shirou becoming Archer (yeah not even going to bother spoilering it anymore I guess), are 25% in Fate and 10% in Unlimited Bladeworks. This is the extent of the information we're given circumstantially.

>>77190
>what the hell happened to Gil after you beat him?
This will make more sense after you've seen what HF has to offer.

> Isn't Archer dead?
He was saving a bit of mana because he knew Gil was still around to be dealt with and hid away. Nasu says that Rho Aias that got traced during Shirou vs Gil was Archer helping out from a distance.

It's a stretch but it's never bothered me a huge amount.

>Lancer was the best
Everyone is at their best in UBW except for Rider, Ilya, and Kotomine, who are at their best in HF. But yes, Lancer is the best part.

>>77193

I had a feeling the Gil thing would make more sense after HF. It was clearly related to the Grail and from what I can tell HF goes into a lot more detail about Grail mechanics.

>>77194
Its funny how all these rules and such are established pretty much entirely for them to be broken.

>>77191
I think the factor that will keep Shirou from becoming Archer again is Rin. Archer, if I recall correctly, says as much when he's talking to Rin before he disappears. "I couldn't sway him in the end, so it looks like I'll have to entrust that job to you." Or something like that.

http://www.typemoon.com/special/special_tm10thkekka/votefes/101_200.html

Here's the complete poll, all 200 ranks.

>>77276
>Shirou ranks above Lancer

FUCKING HOW?

>>77276
why the hell is Archer so popular?
I know he's GAR but that only goes so far, and a lot of other male characters are more interesting even if they aren't that badass

>>77280

I think the other way around, personally. He's plenty interesting but I wouldn't call him GAR. He's a broken-down husk of a man.

If it were up to me the top five would be some mix of Kotomine, Kohaku, Lancer, Iskander, and Wallachia (who is down at 67 ;_;).

>>77282
Which Lancer?

>>77282
>Kotomine and Kohaku at top
let's make sweet sweet love Rodyle

>>77293

>>77306
fuck yeah Cu Chulainn

oh shit, Sensha Otoko is out
http://www.mediafire.com/?2yo1y5j5nhh3co3

>>77351
...That's the D-Frag guy.

I love that series, I didn't know he did doujins.

>>77351
>RAW
DAMN YOU FOR TOYING WITH MY HEART

So it's still not confirmed which series Urobuchi is writing this fall, but this has his touch written all over it, and he's been retweeting stuff from the official feed.
http://psycho-pass.com/

Based on the PV I'm going to say: Megatron Anime.

Game, you're saying that like an actual choice was in play here.

>>77432
Heaven's Feel, huh?
That route does throw some silly choices at you (though none quite as obvious as Fate's "stand up/don't stand up").

>>77434

I dunno if it'll be able to top the one from the end of UBW that was literally 'win the fight OR die like a chump'.

>>77436
There's one that tops that.

Anyway I'm still avoiding Mahoyo spoilers, but someone ripped the OST. It's 3 disks long and it's FANTASTIC.

http://www.mediafire.com/?t0y568lcqsufycs
http://www.mediafire.com/?3qh3orfpdyw06a6
http://www.mediafire.com/?lgrhq1fzrwtkjvq

>>77446
fuck yes, thanks broseph broestar
so far Aoko's theme and Five are my favorites

>>77452
also I always thought the First Star portion of Aoko's theme and Five sounded a lot like Roberto's theme from Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams, and Google tells me they have the same composer, which is great because I fucking loved that game's OST

The best song is Witch's Rondo. Man, why does this have to be non-h? I wanted to see Aoko rape Speed Gardening ;_; Well that just means there'll be 10 times the doujins I guess.

>>77446

Oh my god. You weren't kidding.

>>77475
I actually forgot that one, I was thinking of something else, one that is even LESS of a choice.

ALSO HOLY SHIT make sure you get the bad end called "Sparks Liner High" in the flowchart, then the Normal End, then the True End IN THAT ORDER.

>>77476

The one you're talking about is just funny.

Also, will do.

so the track titles for the OST are out, time to speculah which ones go with which tracks:
1. fate to zero (3:02)
2. for him (0:39)
3. army of the king (2:13)
4. curse (2:24)
5. dogfight (3:13)
6. the sword of promised victory ~Fate/Zero ver. (2:05)
7. Babylonia (1:55)
8. on the battlefield (2:21)
9. betrayer (1:42)
10. you are my king (2:37)
11. at peace (1:33)
12. little star (2:41)
13. in a nightmare (1:53)
14. a man in black (2:44)
15. painful #2 (1:34)
16. dogfight #2 (1:35)
17. the battle to come (2:50)
18. on an island (2:21)
19. burning village (1:52)
20. I will (1:32)
21. in a forign town (1:22)
22. she’s just in time (0:46)
23. days gone by (4:20)
24. mission (2:46)
25. mission #2 (2:57)
26. the dream fades before dawn (1:28)
27. the dream fades before dawn #2 (0:47)
28. tender moment (1:17)
29. this day, and never again (3:32)
30. the dream fades before dawn #3 (3:34)
31. the world is tumbling down (2:47)
32. silver moon (2:15)

also thread's reached autosage, we should probably make a new one if we can think of anything interesting enough

Since it kinda became it anyways better make it Type-Moon general.