It's like........they wanted to make a Game Boy again. But only not.

Forgot mah link: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-2ds

It's meant for kids. No clamshell design means no hinges to crack, not to mention the disclaimer you see on every 3DS game of "Kids under 7 should play this in 2D".

>>179607
This was my thought, too (or they're trying for a cheap model to bolster software sales), but it completely removes portability from the system, which I thought was a big thing for kids (it was for me when I was younger, anyway.) It also looks like it would be far harder to play something like Kid Icarus on...

OTOH, it means Nintendo has also lost a lot of interest in the whole 3D thing, so we likely won't see it in the 3DS's successor.

>>179604
Actually, I stand corrected. This is more like a mini Gamepad than anything else, and I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't a result of that handheld/console division merger a while back. I wonder if it'll be made of Nintendium.......

Oh, and the Wind Waker bundle has been officially announced, $300 on Sept 20. Includes:
>GamePad with Zelda-inspired gold accents
>Full game download
>Free digital version of Hyrule Historia, filled with the history and artwork of The Legend of Zelda series.

So you don't even get a physical copy of the game...

http://www.zelda.com/windwaker/

In addition, the pro model's price will drop to $300. Mario Party and Zelda: A Link Between Worlds will both be available on Nov. 22.

Further further addition:
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/35292
>Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze have been given North American release dates. Super Mario 3D World will be meowing it's way into stores on November 22nd with an MSRP of $59.99. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze will swing into retailers on December 6th with an MSRP of $49.99.

>>179610
Nintendo is going to left in ruins the monetary status of some of my friends.

>>179602
Wait what?

Nintendo 2DS - Introduction
It's for kids like how the XL is for old people.

>STILL no second analog stick
Fuck you Nintendo.

>>179620
Why would the extra casual version have a pro option?

>>179610
See, this is why I am waiting to get my PS4 intill next year.
Fucking awesome bundles man...
>>179602
Aw thats cute.
But the no 2nd stick is still bullshit.
>>179611
And now I know what my game of the month of November is!

>>179621
To improve the options that developers have when making games for the 2.5DS? Of course, since this is going to be the 3DS's Gameboy Micro, it won't impact much of anything. The XL should absolutely have had a second analog stick.

The 3DS can do graphics somewhere between the PS2 and Gamecube, but it lacks the input flexibility afforded by those consoles, so it will always force devs into a crutch until Nintendo realizes this.

>>179622
I knew we'd see a drop this year, but since my next console purchase will be a 360 I can afford to continue to wait...

You know, I think I can say with complete certainly I have never given even a slight shit about the lack of a second analog stick on the 3DS. Maybe you guys are just buying poorly designed games.

I remember there's a puzzle in Phantom Hourglass that involves closing the DS in order to solve it. Not that it matters much, but it would suck for anyone who gets a 2DS and that other game.

>>179627
Oh dear.

>>179620

It's not like we need a second analog stick, really.

Isn't this just an updated DS, then?

I'm...indifferent on it. I hate using the 3D, it gives me a raging migraine even in short bursts on low power (and yet whenever I go to a 3D movie, I'm fine). But from what I've seen of it on New Leaf and Luigi's Mansion, it does look good.

>>179631
There are two puzzles in Hotel Dusk that rely on closing the DS, as well; however, at this point 100% backwards compatibility is not that useful, especially for a "low-tier" model. Kind of like the end-of-life Wii design that stopped supporting Gamecube games. Not so bad, but that also means no controllers, and there were a few Wii games that would allow you to use those controllers.

This may be mitigated if there's an easy way to put the system into sleep mode (emulating that it's closed) without having to go into the 3DS menu, though.

>>179633
>Isn't this just an updated DS, then?
No, it's a 3DS without moving parts and 3D. Still has all the same functionality and capabilities of the 3DS except for those.

The cost of the 3DS stereoscopic screen and moving parts with the hinges (as well as systems to tell when it was open/closed) is likely considerable, especially if they were able to knock $40 off the system just by removing those. And I bet this isn't being sold at a loss like the 3DS is (or, at least, was...)

>it gives me a raging migraine even in short bursts on low power (and yet whenever I go to a 3D movie, I'm fine)
Because you have to look at the 3D screen head-on for it to be proper; if you're looking from the side or top/bottom at all, it will start to fuzz, and this is what will cause the headaches. Because 3D movies use the glasses, you can look at them from any angle without this issue.

There may also be the visual space issue; no matter how close the screen is, it's only a small portion of your field of view, so the pop-in/out is especially glaring with the surroundings. Theater screens, on the other hand, are made to take up most of your field of vision, so the real life 3D makes up on a small part of your vision.

>>179632
Need? Not really... but it's not like there's precious little real-estate on the thing, so I still think it's best to have it available and let the dev choose to use or ignore it.

>>179634
Interesting. The battery life is between the 3DS and 3DSXL, but there's no power save mode. So it's either on or off, making it even less useful as a portable gaming device, as with the 3DS/XL you could just close the lid and save your spot in the game if you had to move or something without having to worry about finding a save point or losing progress. Not that this was really portable to begin with, but that still seems like another devolution. Also didn't notice the mono speaker initially (and even that looks like it will be lower quality than a single 3DS/XL speaker.)

This thing really is aimed at kids; they're the only group that couldn't care less about any of these downsides.

>>179636
>Interesting. The battery life is between the 3DS and 3DSXL, but there's no power save mode. So it's either on or off, making it even less useful as a portable gaming device, as with the 3DS/XL you could just close the lid and save your spot in the game if you had to move or something without having to worry about finding a save point or losing progress.
There's a sleep switch--you can see it in the OP image, and it's mentioned in the fact sheet as lasting the same amount of time that it does when closing the other two. So you can still do that, it just takes a whole second instead of half a second.

But yeah, obviously this is not designed as an upgrade to the existing models, but a cheaper alternative for people who want a 3DS but don't give a shit about the 3D or stereo sound or the nice clamshell style.

>>179637
>There's a sleep switch--you can see it in the OP image, and it's mentioned in the fact sheet as lasting the same amount of time that it does when closing the other two.
Ah, I missed that (despite being the one that posted the OP, I didn't bother to look at the expanded image before posting, hurp.) Thanks.

Also, I like how the 2DS has a wrist-strap place on it; because, surely, this is something you want attached to your wrist so it has the ability to swing around freely. According to >>179634, it also weighs a bit more than the 3DS (I assume for the extra plastic where there would be empty space), so it would hurt a tad more smacking a corner into your leg.

On that same note, if this thing is intended for kids: how tough are the screens? Even if it's not a portable thing, they no longer have the clamshell to protect them from knicks and scratches, and the younger kids will likely still carry it around with them often.

>>2 Outer Cameras

Wait, so it can still SHOOT in 3D, just not display it?

I mean, if the point was to make a cheaper price point, wouldn't losing a whole camera that you can't functionally use help?

>>179645
It might be not so much for taking pictures, but for making the system compatible with the 3DS AR games.

>>179645
I imagine that removing the second lens would have been more problematic than the savings would be worth. If you remove it, you have to make sure all future games can handle only having one front-facing camera, as well as existing games being able to handle only one camera when trying to read data for two.

I doubt the lenses are anything special; it's just that there are two used in tandem when storing data. Plus, it wouldn't surprise me that people would take pictures with it to trade/share with friends, so they still benefit from it.

Meanwhile. . .

>>179650
Yes, that is extremely bad, but we all know that Japan hates anything that isn't Kawaii Desu Pretty Boy RPG 18. We'll see how it fares in EU and the US.

It's releasing the same day as Pokemon X and Y, as a 3Dless version of the console that fucks up kids eyes if they play it under seven. It's to make sure the tykes can buy Pokemon without a national outbreak of 'MAH BABY DONE LOST HIS SIGHT BECAUSE PIKACHU'. It'll still happen because parents are idiots like all of us, but now Nintendo can go, 'not our fault you didn't pay attention to the warning labels'.

>>179652
There's actually no scientific evidence that it causes any problems for children under seven, Nintendo just prefers to play it safe rather than to take the risk.

>>179653
Yes. For good reason. In the long long ago world of 1997, they accidentally caused hundreds of seizures.

Better safe than sorry.

>>179657
Source?

>>179658
Electric Soldier Porygon. It's well documented.

>>179657
>>179659

...Electric Soldier Porygon was not broadcast in 3D, and especially not with the 3D technology used in this.

Also, causing seizures also does not fuck up your eyes, it fucks up your brain via your eyes.

Yes, that is an actual thing that happened but it doesn't have very much to do with this.

>>179660
>>179659
>>179658
Point the first: Yes, bringing that up as an example of why Nintendo would decide to play it safe rather than to take the risk is fair.

Point the second: yes, it's also fair to point out that that had nothing to do with 3D.

Point the third: the episode in question only caused issues for people with epilepsy, which is why Nintendo games always start off with epilepsy warnings now--I think it might be why anime tends to start with a similar warning, too. Technically, Nintendo probably wasn't liable at all for any of it, but it's probably as much a public relations thing as it is a legal culpability thing.

>>179662
Yeah, anime has watch in well lit conditions and not too close to the TV disclaimers on it now because of Pokémon.

>>179653
No link, but IIRC SEGA was actually doing research on 3D stuff (don't remember if it was specifically stereoscopics) a few years back and had a study showing detrimental effects to younger children from from such things, which is why Nintendo has the warning.

>Nintendo thinks the name isn't a problem with the WiiU
yes, you do lack a strong lineup of games, but so did the Wii at this point.
People confuse the two all the damn time.

>>179678
I think the name is a relatively minor problem to the rest of the console. Lower specs than the competition that releases in a few months, a massive controller that overwhelms the casual crowd that shot the Wii up in sales.

In fact, that casual crowd would have eaten the Wii U up if Nintendo had doubled down on the WiiMote instead of throwing it to the sidelines. Make the Plus even better in terms of 1:1 motion, include some type of haptic/force feedback (even if weak), and make the accessories wireless so that you could have full range of motion. But no, tablets! We need a tablet in our system. Because fuck Nintendo.

Also, there was only one game that mattered when the Wii released: Wii Sports. This is what sold the system, it's what sold the motion controls, and it's what brought in the grandma crowd. NintendoLand didn't even come close. The Wii didn't need a large lineup so long as it had Wii Sports in that first year.

>>179679
Relatively yes, but to think its not a problem at all is a major misstep in marketing.

>>179634
>2DS has two outer cameras.
...why?

>>179683

See >>179645 >>179646 and >>179647

>>179683
Why even have one? If you need a camera, buy a digital camera. Not an iPod, or an iPhone, or a DS. An actual camera.

>>179685

Yeah, and we should remove the ability to listen to music on consoles, or take netflix away from them.

Stahp.

>>179685
Why would anyone but a professional photographer buy a camera that's just a camera? Smartphone cameras are more than powerful enough for the needs of anyone who isn't doing some sort of seriously high-end shit, like art or espionage.

>>179685
what if you want to take pictures?

>>179688
Not just pictures, but 3D pictures. Even on a professional scale, the number of cameras that can do this are extremely small. Granted, you're not getting anything close to high quality with the 3DS, but you still have that novelty. I imagine vivid scenes would "pop" better, as well, though thus far I've just toyed with it in my bedroom to see how the pictures come out.

>>179689
True. I suppose that's why they want the 2DS to still be able to take 3D pictures even though you have to view them on a 3DS to see the 3D.

>>179688
>>179689
Hm, I didn't know that was even an option-- and I got a 3DS pretty much at launch. I just know that looking at photo quality on my iPod compared to even a shitty digital camera is night and day. I just want something that isn't shaky and has good quality.

>>179694
You must have an old iPhone, or else when you say "iPod" you actually mean iPod. The recent versions of the iPhone actually have pretty good cameras on them.

>>179702

>>179702
>How to make your own 2DS
...for only $50 more than the 2DS!

>>179702
He forgot to tilt the screen all the way back.

>>179704
I got my XL for less than the 2DS. I realise not everyone can wait for sales, but still. Also makes me wonder if there'll be any promotions for the holidays with this thing.

>>179712
I meant to type 3DS, not XL. I need sleep.

Is that Pokemon edition 3DS ever going to make it to the states.

>>179726
It...was already here.

Turns out it's a smash attack.

>>179734
Makes sense, his regular shot being his regular attack and all.

[PAX] - Hands on with the Nintendo 2DS!
It looks uncomfortable.

>>179743
Because it's built for smaller hands.

What The Wonderful 101 originally looked like.

>>179732
Every gamestop and toys rr' us has said it hasn't come to the states yet.

Daring Fireball author elaborates on why Nintendo should just make iOS games after seeing the 2DS, and takes on the critics.

http://daringfireball.net/2013/09/nintendo_in_motion

>>179810
>By that I meant only that Nintendo should start making iOS games, not that they should abandon their own hardware.
Ah. Okay then.
That's not nearly as dramatic as I thought it would be.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/08/how-the-2ds-could-have-been-nintendos-first-true-portable-tablet/
>The core of the "DSTablet" idea is buried in USGamer's analysis of the 2DS announcement, which includes the odd tidbit that the 2DS "actually features a single large screen in its center, not two separate ones." Yes, apparently the new system is built on top of one big LCD display that's partially covered up (on the bottom half) by the system's plastic shell, creating the appearance of two distinct screens in the standard 3DS ratios and sizes.
>the new system is built on top of one big LCD display that's partially covered up (on the bottom half) by the system's plastic shell
>one big LCD display

If they'd just had it as one large screen instead of the extra plastic over it, they could have opened the 2DS to more possibilities (mainly in simple eShop games, I couldn't see even as many 2DS-specific games like there were for the DSi), or at least made a nice sketch pad for kids.

They pop!

oooooooooh

???
http://nintendo1ds.com/

>>179884
Joke domain. Not a bad parody, though.

Too great not to share.

By that shifty robot bat guy . . . Tim?

http://planetofjunk.tumblr.com/

>>179888
That's actually from Mindwipe.
You know, one of the best Headmasters!

>>179896

>>179888

Heh, I'm just glad you found it funny.

>>179902
My bad, I'm not good at jokes sometimes. :c

Got some level of super armour on the upperdash arm.

>>180021
Not bad... Really glad they reworked Pit. Also hoping Pikachu doesn't get so much frame advantage on every one of its attacks, but that'll never happen.

Rayman Legends is basically the best thing.
Mario Rayman has a Wing Cap!

Guess who is in Wonderful 101

>>180304
That is truly viewtiful!

>>180304

I thought Capcom still owned Joe...

orrr is this some kinda clever ploy?

>>180307

It's just a character that happens to look like him with a different name.

>>180308
Sylvia is also in the game under a different name as a hero, she's friends with Wonder Pink

Peachy

>>180323
I was going to make a post about how inappropriate it is that her ankles are showing, but I honestly could not remember whether or not her legs were bare in the last two games. Which is odd, because... well, we've all looked up Peach's skirt at some point or another.

>>180328
>Ankles
>Inappropriate
>1922

>>180333
Which is why it was going to be phrased as a joke, ya dingus.

>>180341
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>180323
I really like how much brighter the colors are in this game compared to Brawl.

>>180328
I doubt her skirt will be that high in-game, it's just the position she's in for that picture.

Her legs were bare in the last two games. I remember.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nuUJcsQ6xU

>>180323
I like the face in the previous game better. This one's a bit too plasticky looking but that might be on purpose.

>>180368
Really? In Brawl she looked like a goldfish to me. Dead eyes.

Is there a way to transfer data between two SD cards? I wish to replace the 2 GB I have on hand with something more robust.

>>180506
You plug one SD card into a computer and copy the data to the computer.
You take the SD card out and put in the second one.
You copy the data from the computer to the new SD card.

I'm kind of flabbergasted you needed help on this, to be honest.

>>180513
>>180506
On the other hand, COMBINING two SD cards is a more difficult proposition because of how the indexing works on 3DS. I was able to do it eventually with mine, but I don't remember the specifics and there aren't really any walkthroughs on it. I think what I ended up having to do was re-download the software I wanted, then figure out which one was which on the two different cards (as they had different directory names), and move the save data from the first, small card to the larger card in the other directory. Just copying over the directory itself wasn't an option, I remember that.

>>180513
I thought the SD cards used by the 3DS were formatted such that they weren't readable by PC (without some special software.)

>>180517
Not even, no.