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175239 No. 175239
Last thread: >>171992

In other news: http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/4/4392674/halo-spartan-assault-windows-8
>Halo: Spartan Assault is a new top-down, twin-stick shooter due out this July for Windows 8 devices.
>We were told the upgrades that require players to spend real money are designed to make the game much easier, and based the purchasable options in the demo, will represent the majority of unlockables.
>Halo: Spartan Assault will be released for Windows 8 tablets, phones and personal computers in July for $6.99.

>Windows 8 Only
>Microtransactions
>Pay to Win
At this point I think Microsoft has decided that as long as they're digging, they might as well dig the biggest hole and hope that they hit diamonds or buried treasure at the bottom.
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>> No. 175240
Also I find it interesting that they didn't change the logo at all, either. If consumers have a hard time with Wii vs. Wii U, I can only imagine the clusterfuck that they might have with XBox One (Name) vs XBox 1 and XBox One (Logo) vs. XBox 360 (Logo). A few conversations might start with "Wait, they just remade the original XBox?"
>> No. 175244
>About a month ago I was told by an unnamed source that Microsoft was having heating issues with the Xbox One. There wasn’t enough details to go forward with a story so it was kept under wraps until more information surfaced on this issue. Today, a completely different source close to the Xbox One project, informed me that Microsoft will have to under clock the Xbox One about 100-200mhz to fix the systems heating issues.

>What does this mean to developers? Well we already know that the PS4 is more of a powerhouse than the Xbox One. It has faster RAM and bus bandwidth than the Xbox One already. Under clocking the system will widen the gap between the two consoles, but at the same time will keep the failure rate on the Xbox One very low. The last thing we need is another RRoD fiasco. In terms of games, you will see a significant difference in multiplatform titles. Lower clock speed means lower frame rates. This means that a game running 60fps on PS4 may only run at 30fps on Xbox One. Even given the current specs, this would probably still be the case except now we are under clocking the GPU. This could affect other things like the Peak Shader Throughput. If Minecraft were to be released for both Xbox One and PS4, you’d see no difference. A game like Battlefield 4 my run at a lower framerate on the Xbox One than it does on the PS4. We still don’t know how much the eSRAM is going to boost or hinder performance of the Xbox One. We also can’t leave out the fact that every developer, every game and every engine runs differently. They could theoretically boost frame rates on the Xbox One to match PS4 by turning off AA effects and lowering resolution.

http://www.stfuandplay.com/story/content/microsoft-under-clocking-xbox-one-by-100-200mhz#.Ua60MNI-bWx
>> No. 175246
>>175244
So they didn't pay attention to the number of fans in their testers rigs? that toaster looks like it will have one if not attempt something entirely passive and shocker with all that stuff packed so close it doesn't play nice. crack that puppy open and I bet we see next to no proper airflow path.
>> No. 175251
>>175244
I would have thought that the 360 would have taught them about proper hardware engineering and testing.

Maybe they waited as long as possible to start to see how the Wii U did; if it had sold better, we'd see a One with a tablet controller.
>> No. 175255
>>175240
...They're quite probably just using it for the 'xbox' brand as a whole.
And though at least some minor upgrades (other than 2-bit-ing it) would've been good, at least its better than that fuckawful logo that 'leaked' some time back... guuuh.
>> No. 175261
>>175251
I thought that was what smart glass was for.
>> No. 175263
There's a buzz going round twitter that Microsoft cancelled both their pre and post E3 conference Q&A's. They'll still have an actual conference though apparently.
>> No. 175264
>>175263
Smart move on their part. They know it'll be nothing but (justified) dart throwing.
Still though, they can't keep inside their hugbox forever.
>> No. 175273
>>175264
I don't think running away from the toothless video game journalist media is an entirely good move, especially if they don't show anything in their show that can distract people away from their lingering concerns. People are already viewing this as a sign of weakness and it will look incredibly stupid if they're trying to bluff Sony into a game of chicken.
>> No. 175289
Aaaand this xboxone deal is made me panic buy a kinect-less 360.
At about $125.
...
....I hope I don't regret this.
>> No. 175293
>>175289
They said the Kinect can be turned off on the One.
>> No. 175297
Here's one of those Xbox exclusives.

Fantasia: Music Evolved - E3 2…youtube thumb
>> No. 175299
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=577741
>> No. 175301
>>175299

So... their plan is to have it so that PS4 multiplatform titles aren't shown on the floor... but multiplatform titles will still show they're available for the PS4?

How will that affect anything?
>> No. 175306
>>175301
PS4 seems to be the more powerful machine. So I guess they don't want any performance comparisons.
>> No. 175307
>>175306
Even more now then if not before since they've got to underclock the Xbone to keep it from destroying a uninhabited atoll.
>> No. 175310
>>175301
>but multiplatform titles will still show they're available for the PS4
Apprently they won't. Some will simply omit the game being mulitplat unless asked and just straight-up say "this game is coming out for Xbone".
>> No. 175316
>>175310

Wow that's kinda a dick move.
>> No. 175318
It appears dick moves are what Microsoft's all about these days.
>> No. 175327
Microsoft is running in reverse so fast that when they trip on something it will be an epic spectacle.
>> No. 175339
>>175310
...That sounds like a very stupid decision on the develops side. What happens if Sony just straight up says, "Yeah, that's no longer going to be on our system." If the PS4 does well and the Xbone doesn't then the developer just cost themselves a lot over a little short term cash.
>> No. 175343
>>175339
Can Sony even disallow anyone from making games for their console? I honestly don't know. And it's going to be massive games that are given as multiplat. Kind of like that little Xbox blurb at the end of Cowadoody commercials, despite it being multiplat.
>> No. 175344
>>175343
There are license agreements in place for getting dev kits, I'd imagine. While it might be possible to make a game for a console without said dev kit, it would be an extremely hard undertaking and there are probably ways to lock out the game with a system update so you're spending an insane amount on a huge risk.

But >>175339 will never happen, because Sony doesn't want to lose out on the royalties.
>> No. 175345
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/06/how-game-licensing-works-on-the-xbox-one/

Like any of you are surprised at this point.
>> No. 175348
>>175345
This "clarification" essentially boils down to "we've decided to only flog you 49 times instead of 50, aren't we nice?"

And there's this gem:
>Microsoft won't charge fees to [resell that game back to a retailer], but it does say that "third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers."
So it's going to be exactly like the PS3, except for the scant chance that a publisher will allow re-sale of a game if they get an exorbitant fee (which, what a co-inky-dink, is the same as a new game!)
>> No. 175350
Microsoft has finally attempted to clear up some of the confusion surrounding the Xbox One, including the next-gen console's reported ‘always online’ functionality and its approach to pre-owned games.

The next generation console doesn’t need a constant internet connection to function, nor does it completely block the use and sale of pre-owned games. But there are still some restrictions in place.

Here’s all the facts, according to a post on Microsoft’s Xbox Wire website.

Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.
Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.
Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.
Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.
Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.
Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
Beyond this, Xbox Wire also confirms some other issues, including the console’s need to connect to the internet once every 24 hours and the extent of the power publishers have over game sharing.

With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library," clarifies another Xbox Wire page. "Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

Microsoft continues, “Games licensing will be tied to consoles, and third-party publishers may charge a fee for activating used games at their discretion. Renting and loaning games will not be available at launch. Microsoft is working with publishers to make it happen."

And lastly, Microsoft has moved to calm fears that the new Kinect unit will snoop on users.

“Kinect won’t record you while the console is in stand-by mode, and won’t share your data without permission,” reads the post.

The Xbox One was announced at a special reveal event last month. It’s expected to launch later this year.
>> No. 175354
>>175350
>After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

>Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games.

>Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

>“Kinect won’t record you while the console is in stand-by mode, and won’t share your data without permission,”

Well there's some good news at la-

>With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library

AND YOU THREW IT ALL AWAY
>> No. 175372
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/an-xbox-one-drm-breakdown/2300-7459/
>> No. 175373
>>175354
Yeh, I'm leery of getting the new Xbox because of their obsession with online
>> No. 175376
>>175373
Jesus Christ, you're just getting leery now?! What's it take to get you to not spend your money mindlessly?
>> No. 175381
>>175376
Wow, chill out mr hardcore gamer.

I've been leery of it for a long time, coincidently always-on has been a 'thing' for awhile
>> No. 175396
So how long do you think till someone finds a way to circumvent the check?
>> No. 175397
>>175396
First thing that will happen is DDoS attacks by /v/ and its ilk to "wake up the blind masses" that bought the Xbone.
>> No. 175398
Content Patch - June 7th, 2013…youtube thumb
>> No. 175450
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175450
Microsoft Is Damage Controllin…youtube thumb

Holy shit, I am laughing.
>> No. 175465
>>175450
>reddit
>> No. 175471
It's an extremely popular site. It would make sense to do some "reputation management" there.
>> No. 175478
>>175471
Exept that they got found out and is now even more hated.
>> No. 175480
>>175478
They probably thought they wouldn't get caught.

It's a terribly dishonest thing to do and I in no way support it, but if you're going to do it, it would make sense to do it where it has the most impact.
>> No. 175481
They keep this up they might be able to challenge EA dominance in the Worst Company race.
>> No. 175496
Xbox One: Angry Rant Pt. 2youtube thumb
>> No. 175502
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175502
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089
>> No. 175504
>>175502
>Prince of Persia Reboot
Yet again?
>> No. 175520
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175520
>> No. 175521
>>175520
and the old jokes become reality
>> No. 175531
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7444-Xbox-One-and-the-Death-of-Ownership
But what if like the EU court steps in like with steam?
>>175520
Also Ahahahahahaha ha!
>> No. 175537
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175537
>$499 US Dollars
>> No. 175539
>>175537
>+Gold fees
>> No. 175541
>>175537
>€499
They really don't want to even sell these things out of NA, do they?
>> No. 175542
>>175537
And the PS4 is 450

so while you may be paying $50 more; the cool spy tools it comes with more than make up for it.
>> No. 175552
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175552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75YQHFnyKY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>> No. 175553
>>175552
Ahaha, oh wow. I didn't even realize that when I was listening. I just thought the dialogue was stupid and canned in general.
>> No. 175554
>>175552
The best part of their plan.

If social justice people are kicking up dust over this it'll be more noise to drown out the DRM critics.
>> No. 175559
I'm expecting one developer (if they haven't already) to announce that unless the XBOX One doesn't change their policies (always-on, exclusivity period) that nothing they release will be on Microsoft's console. Or ideally, that's what they should do.

>>175554
>>175553
>>175552
No, it's the worst thing they can possibly do. They should have gone out of their way to make the console female-friendly to earn brownie points.
>> No. 175560
>>175554
No, that's more noise to make the negative press louder. Pissing off MORE people doesn't stop the other problem from existing.
>> No. 175562
>>175559
>>175560
Here's how the gambit works: "gaming press" calls MS out on the incident, the internet goes nuts over it for a few days, MS apologizes and fires someone. When it's over they hope no one will remember the issues with the console.

Don't tell me it doesn't make sense. We are talking about the people who said "backwards compatibility is backwards thinking" despite working for a company that goes out of its way to not obsolete outdated as fuck software with its biggest product.

Also it's not like the target audience for the damn thing will care at all about social justice rage.
>> No. 175563
>>175562
Doesn't care doesn't mean they shouldn't care. Women SHOULD be their target audience. There are numerous women who I know who almost actually bought an XBOX or a 360, but their constant alienation of women and the worry of 12-year-olds on Call of Duty threatening to rape them means women wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. And somehow Microsoft thinks this is okay.
>> No. 175565
>>175563
Apparently MS also thinks implementing anti-features and responding to criticism with insults ("why would I live there") is okay, so I wouldn't expect reason from them.
>> No. 175566
>>175563
They seem to be pretty set on their target audience and don't mind alienating everbody else in the progress.
>> No. 175567
>>175566
I'm gonna be honest. If they would just realize they're "still cool" by trying to appeal to women, by apologizing for questioning our skills, by apologizing for thinking rape is funny, if they marketed a game to us by NOT painting everything in sparkles and pink? Y'know what?

I'd reconsider.

I'd welcome the XBone and its stupid fucking spyware into my open arms. Because honestly somehow the anti-female bullshit bothers me a thousand times more than spyware.
>> No. 175568
>>175567
Their strategy is already working I see.
>> No. 175586
The Cynical Redub - Xbox One E…youtube thumb
>> No. 175627
>>175567
If any single one of these companies were actually focused on trying to entice people in general instead of playing to whoever they think their audience is, they'd have a ton less problems.

As it stands it looks like a lot of corporate thinktankery and not nearly enough actual connection with the customers. Though that's been increasingly present in the later stages of the 360 now as well.
>> No. 175655
Microsofts Slam Status: Jammed
>> No. 175658
>Meanwhile at Microsoft

https://vine.co/v/blZ6XwDeWVQ

This is like Romney headquarters after Obama won.
>> No. 175682
>>175658
NOW YOU FUCKED UPyoutube thumb
>> No. 175687
You know the best news for someone like me, who won't be able to afford being an early adopter, is that Ustream might actually become an actual alternative to Twitch, if PS4 manages to be a smash hit. I dislike Twitch immensely.
>> No. 175690
>>175627
The hilarious thing was that it wasn't even that bad a conference. Other than the sound cutting off in a trailer, Battlefield 4 obviously running on a PC, FOUR HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS and this tone-deaf attempt at mirth, the show was perfectly serviceable with a few interesting highlights. The problem is that after the rolling clusterfuck that was the console reveal, "perfectly serviceable with a few interesting highlights" was never going to cut it. Microsoft was...and remains...under an immense level of scrutiny, and every single individual fuck-up just accumulates and accumulates into a storm of bad press. They really needed to go the extra mile to reclaim even a modicum of goodwill and they just didn't put in the legwork.

tl;dr I don't even play games that much, why the fuck am I posting an opinion? :/
>> No. 175692
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175692
Cross your fingers Microsoft, Nintendo can double the damage.
>> No. 175699
Killer Instinct is an Xbox One launch title!
And it's free!
And it comes with one character!
You can buy the rest!
"We saw that people loved Capcom's method of doing things, so we really decided to embrace that free to play mass DLC option that so many people love."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/killer-instinct-is-a-fun-free-to-play-xbox-one-launch-game
>> No. 175727
Content Patch - June 11th, 201…youtube thumb
>> No. 175736
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175736
>>175699
>Make the new Panzer Dragoon a Kinect game.
>Make the new Killer Instinct League of Legends.

Somebody should fucking stop these people.
>> No. 175751
>>175736
Someone is going to stop them.

Someone called Sony.
>> No. 175753
>>175699
Eh, I'd be fine with it if buying all the characters together costs around $60 since that's what I'd normally pay for it.
>> No. 175773
"Don't have an internet connection? Stick with the 360"

-Don Mattrick
>> No. 175828
Microsoft Xbox Executive Don M…youtube thumb
SUICIDE ON ARRIVAL
>> No. 175853
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175853
>>175699
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175894
>> No. 175917
Garden Warfare doesn't look terrible, surprisingly. Kinda like Mann Vs. Machine meets L4D. As long as it retains that same goofy humor as the first game...
>> No. 175921
>Xbox One games are for activation and distribution only in specified geographic regions. See game package and/or retailer product information, for each game’s specific geographic regions.

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-order-xbox-one/disclaimer
>> No. 175923
>>175921
>No Japan
Huh, they actually gave up on that. Didn't expect that.
>> No. 175925
>>175923
They rejected the Xbox and the 360; why keep trying to cater to them?
>> No. 175927
>>175921
And what was the PS4 again? Oh right region free!
>> No. 175928
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>> No. 175935
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175935
http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-has-a-1-5mbps-download-speed-internet-requirement?t=1
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175937
>>175921
>>175923
>No XBone stealing good japanese games.
>Idolmaster, Cave shooters, Monster Hunter, etc. on PS4.
>> No. 175938
The Cynical Redub - Xbox One E…youtube thumb
>> No. 175947
Apparently Xbone will release in Japan some time in 2014.
>> No. 175957
>>175947
What possible appeal would it have?
>> No. 175975
From reading a list of some games shown, it looks like there's going to be some I'd love to have, but no amount of games will be enough to make me put up with this device as it is.
>> No. 175977
>>175957
Well, the 360 had a very small but dedicated niche of fans in Japan. Mostly because the japan-only moeshit games and shmups.
>> No. 176006
>>175977
And then there was this for the original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Wolf_Chaos
Why the hell it never came to the states, even as a straight download (it was already in English!) will forever baffle me.
>> No. 176010
>>176006
Awesome game, funny as hell. Playing it was no fuss since like you said, a big chunk of the game was already in english.

Man, a hacked Xbox was pretty awesome, the homebrew community really made the console shine. Only the PSP had a comparable scene.
>> No. 176011
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176011
>>176006
Rumor is they were afraid it might be offensive to Americans.
>> No. 176013
>>176011
It would make a great digital launch title for the One, then; Microsoft isn't afraid of offending anyone now.
>> No. 176014
>>176011
What?! That's completely stupid. I have yet to meet an American who's heart doesn't swell with pride when they see that, even when other countries decide to mock our ridiculous, ridiculous country, they depict us as unbelievable badasses. How could anyone not be filled with patriotic furor when seeing the President jump in a giant robot to fight a traitorous VP?!
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176041
http://www.edge-online.com/features/junk-food-for-thought-why-microsofts-dew-and-doritos-deal-is-an-insult-to-our-industry/
>> No. 176042
http://haverzine.com/2013/06/13/microsoft-employees-reportedly-ambushing-nintendos-best-buy-e3-experience-events/
WELP
>> No. 176044
>>176042
> The XBox One has certainly fallen out of favor with hardcore gamers, driving many to flock to the Nintendo Wii U as an alternative.
WE BIZZARO NOW!
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