>picking sniper in MVM
>ever

It's the absolute most unnecessary class you could possibly have.

>>171279
They're pretty decent if you just stack that AOE headshot line and use the Sydney Sleeper.

Still, there are way more useful classes to pick.

>>171297
The Sleeper isn't that useful because you always have to wait a second for it to mark anything (when there are a billion other ways to get minicrits, like normal Jarate, Buff Banners and Sandman balls). The same for primary charge-speed upgrades: you get best results by just putting as much into Sniper Rifle firing speed and take successive headshots as fast as possible.

And Jarate is great at stopping the Super-Scouts that can move the bomb cross-map in less than twenty seconds or just slowing down the hoards in general.

The biggest reason not to play it (separate from the mission and the rest of the team) is that every decent loadout is functionally identical to Sniper Rifle + Jarate, so it gets boring after too long.

>>171297
>>171279
Jarate; slows by 40 and gives minicrites, sniper does 2-5k damage depending on upgrades and hit location, plus explosive headshot can kill off an octomedic heavy in one shot before they can even compute uber. Hitman's heatmaker turns sniper into a crit machine gun that can knock out 2-3 mighty robots with a skilled trigger finger.

The only grace spy has over sniper is that he can instakill certain big robots like the steel fists and collect money.

The great fault in MVM, especially at higher levels, is people think it's all DPS. I've seen people try and make 3 other people go heavy on a tank wave just for the damage. Instead of maybe asking the pyro to get a crit can or maybe getting one himself, instead of letting the scout and demo take out the super scouts, instead of asking the engie to move his sentry into the path of the tank and use a wrangler, he just wanted literally tonnes of bullets flying everywhere.

DPS serves tactics, not the other way around. You can't win shit with a team full of heavies (I've tried {Oddly though you can almost do it with a team of gunslinger engies[Or demos<Pyros especially, they can strongarm a wave like nobody's business>]}). The meat of MVM is the smaller robots; if you don't kill them fast enough you get swarmed and then it's too late to take on the deflectors and rapids. You can do this with a sniper because of both mentioned before. Engie is best at this, demoman is great especially if you use the singles method, heavy requires too much aiming and moves too slow but is still good. The cherry on top, tho, are medics, engies, and snipers. They fuck over even the best teams by sheer virtue of fucknuggetry. Coincidentally these classes are a fucking pushover for snipers because of their slow or nonexistent movement speed and penchant for standing in large groups for those sweet explosive headshots.

Moral of the story is that snipers don't inherently blow, you just have to not suck at it. And most people do %99 of their lobby training in soldier or demo so everybody blows. I've done probably 300 hours of expert/advanced missions in BC (Because fuck tickets) and every time we had a good sniper there was next to no issue with the later level specials, disregarding that one giant engie but that's a whole nother bucket of fuck. If you need any further convincing, imagine koth_sawmill; except everyone on the other team has their walk key stuck, can't see past 20 feet, and had to follow a certain path. Also, your sniper can kill 12 of them in one shot, reloads and recharges fast enough to do a full shot every 1.2 seconds, your jarate is ready 3 times a minute and nobody bothers trying to attack you.

I main demo for the stickyjumps and traps, but I have still seen plenty a decent or even fantastic sniper be voted off on other people's shitty tactics; which always seem to boil down to kill all of them now regardless of type, instead of maybe letting the scout carry the bomb so a pyro can airblast him off path over and over while you deal with the hulking deflector heavies and charged soldiers who now do not have the bomb and as such do not have crits or regen, then just killing the tiny little melee scout with maybe 400 health and %80 speed. MVM isn't about damage; it's about doing the right amount of damage to the right classes. Super simple stuff.

Screencap of gunslinger engie team:
http://puu.sh/2oa3l

I'd be more than happy to discuss said tactics here, or in the TF2 thread. That's what I always get peeved about tho, people blaming their bad tactics on other people not doing what they say. MVM is %90 planning and so many people think that by just investing in the %25 DAM+ and wishing upon a star and believing in themselves they can get through a wave by just shooting everything.

>>171297
>>171308
>>171337

>Watching people miss the point in a /cog/ thread.

>>171339
My peeve in TF2 is shitty MVM tactics and the blamegame that follows. Seen it over and over again and it gets older each time. I don't have a whole lot of peeves in other games besides gmod cuz alot of others games are either forgettable or great.

In general tho, anyone who says "Play the game!" like the point of it is to win instead of have fun. Seriously, what the fuck. KDR hasn't been a thing since the Nixon administration, you're doing this in your fun time for free calm down and let us spycrab.

>Getting blamed for a failed wave because you chose sniper instead of chalking it up to 400 critboosted ubered robots

What I hate most is when people get mad for me calling them out on using one weapon over the other. Why are you using Quick Fix? Why are you using Tomislav? Why are you using Gunslinger? WHY.

>>171365
I've only seen that about 3 times, and all of them were on the lower servers. People usually get their shit together by Advanced, but I STILL see Tomislav heavy there sometimes. Stealth isn't worth shit and it fires slower, I mean come on.

>>171361
>In general tho, anyone who says "Play the game!" like the point of it is to win instead of have fun. Seriously, what the fuck. KDR hasn't been a thing since the Nixon administration, you're doing this in your fun time for free calm down and let us spycrab.

Yeah, I'll sure have lots of fun losing because some IT'S FUN YOU ASSHOLE people are effectively AFK. TF2 is a TEAM game.

Also, where do people pick up an attitude like "winning is not fun"? Seriously, what?

>>171367
It's less "winning is not fun," and more of "this guy is taking losing way too seriously." PLAYING is fun, regardless of outcome (excluding getting absolutely stomped). I play with a group of people on Blacks Ops 2, absolutely great guys to play with. But the moment we lose a match (even if it was like 75-74/200-188 in the end), a few of them will immediately begin bitching and playing the blame game.

I fucking love those matches that end up close; it's intense as fuck, and winning feels like climbing to the top of a mountain. Losing by that close just means we met our match. Not the end of the world, as much people think it does. Related, though:

>Blaming the guy with a ridiculous amounts of defends (20+) for why the team lost a point
>Playing an objective based game mode, not playing the objective, then getting pissy when they lose
>Guy calls the other team fags because they used shotguns on a close range map. Was using sniper rifles all game.

>that glorious, monstrous feel when you crush the entire enemy team within seconds beneath glorious LMG fire
>Getting all your killstreaks in one breath
>Ninja defusing in S&D

>>171374
That's not what >>171361 said, or even implied.

>>171383
Which is fine, because I replied to >>171367

I really need to play another MvM round at some point, best still is Sandy Scout with Maxed Milk and Stopper.

>>171367
Depending on the game, winning can be criminally boring. I'd rather get 11 of my friends together and have an all spy team disguise as blu on Badwater. Just their reactions is more entertaining than 500 victories. Same thing with MWanything using shields and UT with the hammer. After 1k+ hours of winning stuff you look for other things to do. SLAG is great at this. If I had the option to lose but laugh my ass off doing it I would never win a match ever. TF2 is a TEAM game and that means it's about the COMMUNITY and they're made up of PEOPLE who are here to have FUN. At the end of the day what matters is that you had a good time, and I'll be damned it having a team full of demopans isn't riotous.

>>171374
This essentially. And being stomped can be fun too if you just sorta roll over and make it hilarious. If I have people together we'll all go heavy and get some signs with the French flag on them, just walking over to the other base to surrender.

>"Analysis and tactics are useless, you're a grown man playing a childrens video game."
>"Winning =/= fun."
>"You lose all the time because you're terrible, not because the game has design flaws."

mfw

>>171385
>I'm pretending that I'm too stupid to follow a discussion!

Can we please not do this?

>>171387
If your idea of fun is doing nothing then don't complain when people object, because you ruin the fun of other people who would rather actually play the game.
It can be hilarious if the entire team is in on it, but when it's just a few people who refuse to play but still take up slots and then get mad when called out? That's usually called griefing.

Also
>Depending on the game, winning can be criminally boring.

How about playing a better game instead of disrupting the game for people who do like it? Is you fun more important than other people's fun?

Trolling is one thing, but insisting on being accepted for it?

>>171408
>"You lose all the time because you're terrible, not because the game has design flaws."

Nothing wrong with that statement. Even if the game has design flaws, you lost because your opponent was better at exploiting them. If a game's flaws make the game unfun for you, play something else.

Under this definition, doesn't changing classes or equipment to be sporting to the other team count as "griefing?"

>>171417
There's a difference between using unorthodox or suboptimal equipment/classes and idling.

Shoving words into each other's mouths: The thread.

>>171420
Well yeah, but my question is, what is it?

Keep in mind I'm talking about using suboptimal tactics/equipment specifically to prevent my team from winning. If we are winning too much in my personal estimation, I will play a spy, or a soldier, or melee only in order to make my team lose and the game "more fun" in my estimation.

Clearly there is a border between that and griefing. The question, and perhaps genuine disagreement, is where do we draw that line, and what are the key qualifying features.

>>171425
> If we are winning too much in my personal estimation, I will play a spy, or a soldier, or melee only in order to make my team lose

That'd be griefing, but it doesn't have much to do with your choice of class or equipment.

The difference between a bad or suboptimal player and an idler is that the first one is at least trying, while the latter actively insists on being unhelpful.

People who defend their idling with "lol u 2 srs", "y u hate fun" and similar nonsense have no reason to complain about people attacking them.

Also, do you actually enjoy actively sabotaging your team? Your statement sounds like you're fishing for some sort of OMG I HATE YOU DIE FAGGOT response.
When I feel that my team is winning too easily I sometimes switch to classes/weapons I don't use often, but the point of that is using a different playstyle, not "to make my team lose".

>>171416
>answering a question asked by a person in a post RIGHT before mine, which was referring to a post before itself, as well
>In fact, it was the post that >>171383 claimed I was ignoring, when in reality, I had nothing to say on it, but rather was responding to post A's comment on it
>i'm not following the discussion
Sure, in that case, let me respond to every post in the thread, just to show I'm following along.

Saging as to not bump with my snippy bullshit

>>171426
>>171420
>>171416
"Hey LazyPurple Can I Join Your Game?"

Take TF2 discussion to the TF2 thread, neh? This one was for sharing video game feels in general, thus the RP stuff and Pokemon.

>>171444
Well, this thread can be a reserve thread, so, when the other hits autosage, this will become the new TF2 thread.
And I think that the OP actually was going to be posted on the original TF2 thread but accidentally ended as a thread.

>>171445
>video game feels
Its in the OP

>>171448
That MVM part fooled me I guess.

>>171416
>"You lose all the time because you're terrible, not because the game has design flaws."

>Nothing wrong with that statement. Even if the game has design flaws, you lost because your opponent was better at exploiting them. If a game's flaws make the game unfun for you, play something else.

This would be more valid if the design flaws were being willfully exploited by players, and not just general problems with the game that elevate some people based on location and connection rather than actual skill.

I feel the need to defend myself here because I recently had a friend of mine suggest this to me about Black Ops 2. He asked why I disliked the game, then, when I presented him with a laundry list of the issues with the game, most notably Broken Cameras and Offline "La…

He had the gall to suggest that I was losing because I was bad at the game.

In the same breath he told me that watching tactics videos pertaining to the game, using more than 2 loadouts, and trying to keep my KDR positive were all silly notions. Because it isn't like Winning is fun, and not losing all the time is also fun. He also suggested that I had a heavy dose of nostalgia goggles because my last prefered CoD was MW2, and it isn't like Activision gutted Infinity Ward after that game and handed the majority of the responsibilities over to Treyarch, who haven't made a good game since Tony Hawk.

It's really frustrating to consistently place in the top 3 of my team, no matter which side, and then be told that the reason I keep losing is because "I'm not good". I may not be amazing but I know for a fact that a lot of my enemies get to see me before I ever see them, as I watch it on their killcams. It's frustrating when every other game I play shows me to be a middle-of-the-road player, not the best but not the most useless bastard in the lobby, and this game, with such obviously horribly broken lag comp, has me consistently failing.

It's like the rage over glitching. If there's a glitch that overpowers everyone who uses it, obviously that redefines the game, but it breaks the game in ways the developers do not have a method for fixing, generally. I am the constant victim of a glitch; a glitch that is unactivated by players and is based more on their geographic location, not skill. It literally made the game almost unplayable for me and I did end up trading it in.

I know my friend didn't mean to be insulting, but that's exactly what he was. I do not make these claims frivolously, or without evidence. I make these claims because these are the exact kinds of problems Black Ops 1, Modern Warfare 3, and Black Ops 2 all have. And shockingly, they're all made by the same development team.

So many people focus on "it's in the game, therefor it's legal" mentality. The idea that developers are human, and can fuck up in big ways, seems very alien to many people when I try to talk about issues like this. Even the idea that they need to keep up with a game now because it will be patched on Day 1 seems to escape some people. I wonder if my friend even knows about the March Title Update, and the concurrent tweaks to various weapons beyond getting into a game one day and thinking "huh, this feels better for some reason".

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

Let's get back on the topic. Seems to be sharing online strains and pains, but surely we all know

>tfw beaten by an RPG boss repeatedly, go and stock to max healing items, go back and beat them without needing but like 5

>>171498

>scrub scrub scrub scrub

The Fighting Games Community is toxic in a lot of ways but this has to be one of the most obnoxious.

U probly jus mad cuz u bad.

>>171552

No - well, I am bad at fighting games, but I'm not a fan of the genre to begin with, so I'm not mad about it.

The attitude that someone who hasn't done a fucking master's thesis on the use of the Shoryuken deserves to be insulted and derided makes the community insular and unwelcoming to new players. Even in that post, which goes out of its way to say that not everybody has to have a tounament-winning attitude, continually refers to them in insulting language. It's genuinely toxic.

>>171553
The problem is that you're reading an article about competitive play. Sirlin has another article on Playing NOT to Win that's specifically about reminding people that you don't always have to play that way when you're playing for fun, in non-competitive environments. He's referring to scrubs dismissively in this article because it's about tournament play.

Additionally, he uses it mostly to refer to a certain type of newbie, rather than all newbies in general. The type who makes up house rules for the game that are never really part of the game, and consider it unfair for competitive players not to abide by those arbitrary house rules--like, say, using a single move over and over again against an opponent who doesn't know how to counter it.

Incidentally, Sirlin's articles on game design are some of the best I've ever read in terms of laying out game design theory and competitive balancing.

>>171557

The problem's larger than that article, that article just reminded me of it.

>>171480
I think your problem isn't so much glitches in CoD as it is playing CoD.

Have you received your GG and PVG yet. If not, here's one on the house. Welcome to hats.

>Final fantasy anythingafter7

>Getting a new game
>Great game, says fucking everyone
>Run it
>Doesn't run
>Crashes, 14fps
>Cry to sleep

>Have 400 steam games
>People think you're rich and ask you for shit
>As if you just didn't buy discounted bundles every summer and winter for the past 5 years
>HiB

>The entire TF2 economy

Also, I do not play to win OR to lose. I play to play. Winning a game can be fun but after 3 thousand hours of winning the same maps you look for other shit to do. STAR, LP, and SLAG are what happens, or lobbies. As of now I just sit around as a heavy in the middle of the map eating the sandvich, watching what other people do. On pub servers %95 of people just kill me. On custom and priv servers they go heavy and we all have a picnic most times, followed by gentlemann boxing. That's alot more fun than playing the same game mode for literally the thousandth time. UT didn't have this because UT is a fuckfest that's over in 2 minutes or less depending on who gets the rifle. DoTA same thing, time reversed. There's a few other games where I do this too, and even singleplayer games. It's just fun to have fun, whatever fun it is.

>BSN trying to nerf every goddamn thing in multiplayer.
>BSN giving out shitty build advice (a Devestator melee build, telling an Adept player he shouldn't use powers)
>Giving a shit about N7 rank

Conversely
>That feel when two Batarian buddies take advantage of yourcyro ammo to falcon punch every Cerb troopercicle.
>That feel when two Battlemasters charge the same trooper and he flies over your barricade
>That feel when activing DEVESTATOR MODE and saving your teammate's ass from Brutes.
>That feel when playing Adept and never scoring too much point wise but shoving enemies away from down team and playing medic.

>>171562
>I do not play to win or lose

Then your definition of fun is just different from mine. I always found RP in FPS games to be suspect. It's like that scene in the Simpsons where they all have guns and they all start going off. Just a disaster waiting to happen. I suppose it would be less hazardous in TF2 with the shop servers and such. Honestly, that sort of thing just has never done it for me, and I've never had friends who were more into the other stuff then trying their damnedest to kill me.

Not online related but
>Voice over loudspeaker:
>"Hey stranger, glad I found someone else in the wake of this horrible disaster."
>"Hey Bad Guy."
>"W-what? I'm not the Bad Guy! *nervous chuckle*."
>"Yes you are. It's been 10 minutes in this god-forsaken hellhole and you're the only other character I've come into contact with. And oh hey you have comm gear, a ton of knowledge about the situation that I just stumbled into, and are sitting pat in a safe location. Shit's like Scooby-Doo, you're either the bad guy or all this happened because someone slipped on a banana peel."

>Lend FoC to a friend for a while
>Ask him how he's doing with it, and if he needs help
>"I didn't finish it. Didn't like it"
What? Why?
>"Too much like Gears of War. Too coveriffic."
What?
>"Yeah, two weapons, and Halo shields. I didn't like it."
...
>Go over to pick it up
>Playing the new Army of Two with his brother.
>Strawberry jam and chest high walls everywhere.
>He had sworn off EA like two hours before.

I will concede that his brother got it for his PS3, but that doesn't excuse you from swearing off something and then trying it out when someone else gets it.

>>172000
FoC?

>tfw when adjusting to a new keyboard/mouse/controller
It's the gaming equivalent to how your fingers feel after you cut your nails.

>>172067
For some reason my Performance MX extra buttons stopped working in Steam games; however, if a button is assigned to Middle Click it will still work. So I did that but I keep hitting the other buttons out of instinct to do other tasks (like insta-place a sentry). It gives me the sads, but I'll be wiping my system in a month here, so I'm not going to bother figuring it out.

In the meantime I'll have to retrain my fingers (and then again!)

>>172047
Fall of Cybertron.

>L4D and L4D2
>Any moba
>Some TF2 servers

Seriously, it's like every autistic perfectionist out there swarms those games and tries to force their "master plan" on everyone that appears. They derive no joy from anything. They are misery incarnate, and as we all know, misery loves company.

There's nothing wrong with tourneyfagging, but
>that feel when SSFIV AE has a huge cast and only about half of them see any play online and in person because people shit talk the low tiers so much that people don't believe those characters can even win.

>Go to tf2lobby
>Click any lobby that isn't Badlands
>Click Engineer
>You have been kicked from the lobby, the host has left, or there is a problem on your end. Returning to menu.

>Every
>Single






>t
>i
>m
>e

>>172122
But it's just true in some cases. It's a harsh truth sometimes. Character X does not have that or this option that Character Y has in this or that situation. That's what makes a good character in a fighting game in particular. Options. Things they can do in any given situation, and not all characters have as many or as good as some others.
A better player playing Character X will still beat a worse player playing Character Y certainly, but only through time and work to bring to light before now unknown abilities, an even tussle between X and Y will end with a W for the latter. Dig?

>>172107
I definitely grant you, play2win communication only works if a team is all on the same page and if it's not just some jackass ranting at everyone else. Calling out threats and powerups is useful, trying to tell someone what to do isn't.

>get into lobby
>"YOU FUCKING SUCK YOU TERRIBLE FAGGOTS"
>some dipshit every time

>>172162
Oh, I get that. I'm just lamenting the fact that so much potential goes untapped because certain characters don't have a good reversal or divekick or whatever. Feels bad man.

>"blableeblooblaablaa remember I'm the pathfinder you need to be in close formation if we want to win this blahblahblah remember get the shotgun and only shoot the tank when its back is to you-"

"Shut. Your. Fucking. MOUTH, you nasally tryhard."
>voice chat is utterly silent of play2win for the rest of the campaign.
It works sometimes.

>trying for 100% in Psychonauts
>FUCKING FIGMENTS
>ESPECIALLY IN MILLA'S DANCE PARTY WHERE THEY ALL BLEND INTO THE FUCKING BACKGROUND

>Second Sight
>Get out of the elevator
>Guard notices you, tells you to not move, doesn't really fire at your or anything
(IIRC)
>Hit him with a trash can, he goes down hard
>Go to look at his monitor, there's a chat window open, it's his girlfriend/wife
>They were having a conversation when you interrupted
>If you watch the screen she becomes increasingly agitated and worried when the guard doesn't respond
>it's actually a lot of text that you see

And that's how I learned what feels was before feels was a thing.

>>172264
I gave up on trying to find all of the collectibles in Darksiders II. It's just so fucking tedious!

>>172318
I would have given up long ago, but there are two reasons I'm still shooting for 100%:

* There's a very brief after-credits scene that is apparently pretty funny.
* I've been told that Meat Circus is very difficult, and being that I am kind of...not good at video games attimes, I want to be prepared. I'm already up to the bare minimum suggested level for it, though, Level 90, which is when you learn Regeneration, and I saved all of the kids' brains so far. So at least I have Max Health and Regen.

>>172319
It's been quite some time since I played, but I don't remember the hard part of Meat Circus being attacks, but about jumping and timing.

I could be wrong.

>>172321
Jumping and timing are why I'm bad at video games. I don't know if I have bad reaction times, or if I just psych myself out to the point where I can't possibly do well because I'm too tense.

>Dealing with a friend who does the no items finaldestination bullshit.

Sort of game related.
>Watching MGSV trailer. Friend says "Oh diamond dogs. Like in My Little Pony"

>TF2
>Usual server has gone down on a clown while humping a mound
>Friend invite sent from another server
>Go on
>All-talk "professional" server
>Nothing but guys trying to boss one another around through sheer volume
>Half their voices are cracking
>Three guys keep shrieking about spies
>Run around as a pyro
>Medic out of nowhere
>Friend logs off
>Clantags ahoy
>"Okay pah-woe, we godda go doo duh bagh-"
>huddahhuddahnope.avi
>Medic pitches a massive bitch-tent but keeps following
>"WHADDUHFUGFUGYEWWAHAHBADDUHHEALINGDURRRR etc. etc."
>Go onto the roof
>Drop down behind entire enemy team
>Medic shrieks and hits the uber
>[huddah huddah huddah intensifies]
>Flamethrower takes out half the enemy
>Other half panics
>Nail them with flare gun and fire axe
>Medic starts shrieking about who knows what
>Log off
>Get friend invite from clantag medic
>huddahhuddahnope.avi

I still get friend invites from those tards.

>Oh great, yet another giant robot that fights a war against other giant robots on a robot planet that’s, surprise surprise, another giant robot. Yeah, this game’s just a Gears of War ripoff with its cover system.
...

>Hey dude, let's play Riptide. Remember the first one, where the government tried to weaponize a virus only for it to break containment and infect an island. You have to get out before they nuke it to avoid being caught. It’s awesome, you get to use a bunch of weapons to kill zombies.
...

>Dead Rising 2 looks stupid. You get to wear women's clothing and ride a tiny tricycle amongst a horde of zombies. You can't take it seriously.
>[Riptide] Hey watch this.
>Friend uppercuts an eight foot tall zombie, somehow electrocuting and setting it on fire with his bare hands, vaulting it a good fifteen feet before it clips against a wall, ripping off its arm.

>mfw

>DOTA2
>Random Draft
>Your team's first three picks are Sniper, Chen (You), Lina
>"Okay guys now we need one (and only one!) top-lane carry!"
>The last two guys pick Anti-Mage and Troll Warlord
>Of course they do
>The predictable happens

Sometimes I wonder why I even play this game.

Bonus:

>The antimage doesn't farm
>Like, at ALL
>It's forty minutes in and he doesn't even have a fucking battlefury because instead of farming he's running into teamfights and dying

>>173933
>When you make a hero choice for your team and everyone else just picks whatever.
>When you see the PERFECT level 1 lane partnership but everyone ignores synergy to do their own thing.
>When you're playing carry, but have to buy wards and couriers because nobody else will.
>When lane partners don't skill stuns first.
>When lane partners ignore your attempt to initiate a first blood kill.
>When people fuck up all match, but blame the loss on you.
>When people ignore their team all match to farm, but build shitty items.

>>173667
Well he's not wrong about the Cybertron games being awful at least.

>>173952
>All Random
>Phantom Assassin, Zeus, Chen (You), Ursa and Crystal Maiden vs Enchantress, Storm Spirit, Magnus, Brood Mother, and Mirana
>Zeus: "Chen you might want to repick if you don't know Chen well"
>Me: "Nah, I like Chen"
>Employ sentry wards and a controlled Satyr to First Blood Broodmother and Mirana
>Keep up a constant flow of vision, both general and truesight
>Rescue Zeus when he overextends with a Test of Faith so perfect that he tried to buy back a few times before realizing he wasn't dead and then raved about how great I was for like three minutes
>My team slowly but surely crushes the other team into dust
>Zeus: "Chen, I'm commending you."
>Two others do it too

Ah, yes. That's why I play.

>>174005
Sounds like someone was credit to team.

>>173954

> April 2009
> Get yearly reserve pay or whatever
> $900.00
> Buy a Wii and some Wii Motes, have a blast.
> Get Mario Bros, totally stoked to play with friends.
> Get two days off for gaming
> Buy all sorts of snacky food in preperation.
> Friend and his brother come over, watch a couple episodes of a show.
So, up for some Mario?
> Sure, where's the Wavebird?
Oh, you can't use Cube controllers, you have to use the Wii-Mote
> ಠ_ಠ
> Play for about an hour or two, me and his brother are having a lot of fun dicking each other over.
> Friend makes a bunch of whiny noises while fidgeting with his controller, not really playing.
> Finish the first land.
> Yeah, I'm not feeling this. It's not heavy, you know? Let's go to my place and play Resident Evil 5.
> Spend four hours shooting zombies
> Friend flatly refuses to play Wii anymore.
> mfw I spent over five hundred dollars on all these games just to be told they're bad and for stupid dumb babies, like me, the stupid dumb king of babies.

>>174044
Sounds like he was ready to hate it before it even began.

>>174044
Had a friend like that. Judged everything on sight and would refuse to have anything to do with it unless his entire family forced him into it. He despised Pikmin until I showed him some gameplay, for one example.

Yet he jumped on WoW without a thought and grinds through it religiously.

I hate graphics fags.

Brother of the final destination no items fag hated anything that wasn't CoD because it had the best graphics. Dude wouldn't even try Techu because it was older.

>>174074
This reads like a stereotypical Youtube comment complaining about today's youth.

>>174076
Haha no.

Dude wouldn't even play Fallout 3 because the same reasons. Keep in mind this is when it came out.

>>174077
The dude is also ten years older than me.

Also
>Check out this new game I got while you hang out over the weekend
>Only free tv taken up all weekend
>I know everything about God of War because he went through it in an entire weekend while I was stuck watching

I stopped being friends with them after the younger brother killed a bunch of kittens, bit me for putting my arm over my girlfriend and tried jerking off in front of me too furry shit.

>>174078
Wow dude.

>>people who think that because you are a gamer you must like or have played every game in existence
>>get annoyed when you haven't/don't

Also, an observation: Just as there are more women who play games than people might think, there are also a lot of dudes who don't play games. I guess part of me was in this assumption until recently that young American male always = gamer, but I guess a bunch of guys in the 18-34 demographic either only like older vidja, have kids/a job and can't play games, or are under this "gaems r for fat dum peepl who liev in mom's basment lolol" mentality.

>>174074
>CoD
>Good graphics
Wow, what a gigantic fucking casu-
>>174078
...

>>174078
>killed a bunch of kittens

And you didn't slam a knife into the base of his skull WHY?

>>174078
>killed a bunch of kittens

>>174086
He didn't mutilate them or anything like that. His dumb ass just fucking let them freeze to death outside in December. I remember I even tried to keep them warm by giving them my sweater as a bed and staying with them.

He couldn't be separated from Resident Evil 5 to take care of them.

So all in all I'm glad I called him a piece of shit and left.

Another story
>spend Xmas helping his family put up lights.
>He plays my brand new Castlevania the entire time, beating it
>have no drive to finish now that I've seen the entire game secondhand.

>>174078
Christ.

>>174096
> His dumb ass just fucking let them freeze to death outside in December.
Okay, that's much less terrifying. Still horrible, but less malicious and more neglectful.

>You
Oy
>I got Injustice: Gods Among Us, want to come play it with us?
I can do it tomorrow, yeah. I need to drop off wine anyways. Is it good?
>it's Mortal Kombat. Except instead of over-the-top ultraviolence, you've got Doomsday punching people through the core of the planet. -1/+1.
-1/+1? So it's...zero?
>No over-the-top ultraviolence like ripping out somebody's spinal column and clubbing them with it, (-1) but you've got things like Doomsday punching people through the core of the planet (+1). so, it balances out. To about the same as MK

~

>Playing Injustice, actually having fun despite being turned into finger pain within forty five seconds.
>You know what's annoying?
What?
>Superman doesn't kill anyone.
>Brief pause. Sigh, pause game, turn to face friend.
Elaborate, Subcommander.
>I mean, I know why he doesn't do it. It's just annoying that he just leaves them there after beating them up and flies away. Doesn't tie them up or anything.
...Where does killing them factor into this?
>Well, when the Justice league fights an army of robots, they rip them apart, right? Pretty graphically too.
Yeah?
>But if it's people, or even aliens, they just knock them out. Best case scenario, it cuts off like nine seconds before he's killed
I think it kinda depends on how human the robits are.
>What do you mean?
What measure is a non-human? Like, do you consider a given robit, with a personality and feelings, no better than a Battle Droid or a printer, or like a family member, like Rosie or Johnny 5?
>They're robots, they're not family. There's no relation to you at all.
Not the point. Alright, remember when Legion discusses how the Morning War began? Remember what started everything? "Does this unit have a soul?"
>No, because it's a robot. It doesn't have a soul. Neither do we, we're just sacks of meat and salt and something something christianity is a cult bluh bluh empathy has no place in society and I smell my own farts.

>Dropped a game for awhile, either out of boredom or new game
>Stopped playing in the middle of a crucial plot point/dump
>Picked it up, nearly forgotten all the mechanics or what I was doing
>Game continues its plot dump
>Homework Assignment Boss
>Requires intimate knowledge of several mechanics
>mfw this situation
And that's why I never finished FF XII

>Getting gold camos and max weapon prestige with a weapon
>By the time Prestige 2 Max or Gold comes around, you've got a good handle on the weapon
>By the time you have both you're a master with it, landing head shots from across the map, quad kills, taking objectives
>Have to move onto a different weapon to bling out and level
RIP in peace, Five-Seven and SWAT-556. You were amazing together.

>>174506
>Superman doesn't kill anyone.
>Injustice
It's like they never bothered with the story mode.
Also Subcommander sounds like a jackass.

>>174509
I may as well hijack this thread to complain about my friend. In his defence though he was talking about primary Superman.

This one was a while ago

>Hey man, mind if I borrow a couple games?
Sure, go ahead.
>Why do you have post-it notes on Arkham City?
Read it.
>Bam...Ham City? Oh for fuck's sake
Ha, yeah. So, anything interesting?
>Not really, you have such...bad games.
...We have ninety percent of the same games on my side.
>Take it easy, I'm joking. What's up man, you've been grouchy lately.
Just work. Now seriously, see anything? You're kinda in front of the screen here
>Maybe. What's El Shaddai?
No idea.
>Ascension of the Metatron?
Ok, yeah, no. You won't like that game.
>Why not?
Old Testament.
>What's that?
Bible.
>Makes a loud BEH and flicks the game across the room, desperately rubbing his pants, trying to "clean" his hands.
>Notices my incredibly unimpressed face, apologizes, plops down beside me on the couch and unpauses E3.

He really didn't this bad around these things until he started going to Reddit. He really liked Dante's Inferno for the most part, for example. He still took shots at religion or spiritual stuff, but it more just trying to be fun and get a rise out of me. Now he doesn't shut the fuck up about it, and hanging out with him frequently degenerates into bickering and yelling.

>>174514
>>Makes a loud BEH and flicks the game across the room, desperately rubbing his pants, trying to "clean" his hands.
Man I'm an atheist and your friend sounds like a spazz, how old is this lad?

>>174514
>>174506
>hurr drr drr religion lol posts
no. stop.

>>174514
Outside of the names, what IS El Shaddai actually about?

>>174521
An angel has to go down to Earth to stop other angels from making the world a giant drugfest. The art styles are really interesting, but the writing and gameplay are so shallow and purposefully obtrusive that it ends up being mostly unsatisfying.

>Playing Treant Protector.
>Notice a teammate being chased on the minimap.
>Heal him from across the map.
>As soon as I start healing him, he turns around and does a suicide run on the enemies who chased him.
>He's dead.
>Heal wasted.

Hey mom, can I spend this gift card on the Double Fine Humble Bundle?
>>Sure. How much is it?
Well, it's $8.45 right now for four of their games, plus a bunch of prototypes, but if you spend $35--
>>You're not spending $35 on a game.
Technically, it's four games, supporting their Kickstarter for a fifth, and prototypes. Also, you get a DVD of the making-of...
>>You can't get things sent to the house, your dad would freak out.
He buys stuff off eBay all the time. I'll explain it to him.
>>Just forget about it.

>>174525
He's not an angel, he's a dude sent down from Heaven to wrangle them. Turns out, that the six (seven?) Angels that fell royally fucked up: two of them losing their voices, one of them dying while falling, and their leader being reduced to a vegetative state.

It was fun to play on the weekend, and the gameplay was an...interesting take, but nothing to write home about. Bunch of loading issues though.

>>174506
>implying the world wouldn't be 10,000 times better off if Superman and Batman killed the parade of genocidal monsters they deal with on a constant basis instead of slapping them on the wrist and letting them come back next month

>implying farts don't smell great when its your own brand

>>174096

AND YOU DIDN'T TAKE THEM WITH YOU?

>>174631
I made the mistake of trusting him.

>>174514
Sounds like a jackass.

Also
>let friend borrow Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance
>let's some retard cousin have it
>never see it again

Long story short: If someone is so hung up on religion or lack of religion that they won't give a game a chance, even if they'd probably like it for other reasons, they're a moron.

I mean, I've never been religious, don't really believe in anything, but I'm looking forward to eventually playing Persona (and maybe Shin Megami Tensei). Because the gameplay, art, and story look interesting.

>>174651
Persona has a lot more to do with Jungian Philosophy and Shintoism than it does with any western religion. Shin Megami Tensei deals with Christian demons/devils and things more directly, but in Persona the bad things all more or less come from human hearts and minds, not from evil divine forced.

At least that's true in 3 and 4. I haven't played 1 or 2, so I can neither confirm nor deny that statement in their case.

>Natural Selection 2
>join server
>first thing I hear
>"Stop wasting your money on mines for fuck's sake retard."
>"Motion tracking is over fucking rated, you are the worst commander, faggot."

>The ending of Arkham City
Lets just say its no wonder that the side quests are missable.

>>174662
So I saw the Shin Megami Tensei trailer from the fighting game torny streams this weekend.
And I honestly don't see the point or the hype. It's just last gen graphics of a guy walking down streets.

>>174875
Are you really judging a game based on its graphical fidelity and basic transportation over it's art direction and game-play focus?

Try some out for yourself and see if you mesh with it. Couldn't hurt to see if it has something novel for you.

>>174876
>Are you really judging a game based on its graphical fidelity and basic transportation
Well seeing as how that's all there is to go on in the trailer; yes.

As for trying things out, I unfortunately lack the luxury of both expendable time and income for games to just try out.