No offense, but it sounds like the follow up to the PS3 may not be a worthwhile investment. I personally HATE the "social" shit. I hate the Nintendo Mii crap as well. I play videogames to play. Not to use my gaming device as a movie viewer or chat. All these non-gaming additions do is jack up the price undeservedly. And if its true that the PS4 won't have BC, then frankly I hope it fails and Sony is booted off the gaming industry.

>The new system will incorporate “more social gaming aspects”
It will be called Home and will incorporate tens of things.

> the PlayStation manufacturer considered removing the system’s disc drive in favor for an all-digital console
Considering how okay Sony and Microsoft are with offering different versions of their console, I don't know why they couldn't have offered one with a disc drive and one without; let users choose, and whichever one sells more leads the way for the 8th gen.

>>169439
I like the idea of social integration in my games as an option, not shoved down my front or created at the expense of something else.

>>169441
Sony tried that with the PSP Go and it bombed.

>>169445
And everyone knows once something fails the first time, you should never try to do it ever again, because circumstances never change and alterations to the original design never make something better.

>>169448
Sony's not exactly in a position to take another high gamble risk. PS3 is definitely in better shape now then it was on launch day, but the PS Vita is struggling badly in the handheld market.

With Sony experiencing losses in their once profitable divisions, the PS4 can literally make or break the company.

>>169449
Would you say that it is time to return to Nintendo for next gen?

>>169448
>PSP Go - Digital Only
>Every other modern system: Digital and physical

How would going digital-only benefit a console? The PSP-Go at least had the benefit of being more portable. A Console would lose the ability to play CDs and DVDs/BDs, along with costing more to accommodation a larger hard drive.

>>169449
>With Sony experiencing losses in their once profitable divisions, the PS4 can literally make or break the company.

This'll be fun to watch. Judging by how they've operated in the past 5 years, the PS3 will probably be built around tying into their other projects and addressing the strengths of their competitors. That means:

>Better Vita connectivity. (Not just for remote play, but possible Wii-U ports.)
>4K Something. (If not games, then movies. Possibly multi-layered BD Support and HEVC 4K movie downloads/rentals over PSN)
>Some sort of phone connectivity. (I have no idea lol)
>3D HMD's like the Oculus Rift(?)
>More of the 360 and Vita's online features, like Party Chat and social media integration.
>Apps. For real this time.

Of course, this is only if they actually try.

>>169451
I really hope whatever they do, they don't shoot themselves in the foot.

>>169455
You act as though they have feet without bullet holes.

I'll just wait to see if it gets a game I can't live without.

>TWO WEEKS

Please, please actually be HD this time.

If it's backwards compatible to PS3 I'll pick it up, cause I hate that I was too poor to get into the current gen market outside of the Wii that I own.

I like the controller holds your account thing that got rumored, that is cool.

>>169670
I was close to purchasing the new God of War PS3 bundle, before this big announcement. Now I'm waiting to see what the PS4 has to offer.

If Sony didn't screw up the PS3 launch so badly, I would have bought the system a long time ago instead of an Xbox 360. It sounds like they learned their lesson, with reports of the PS4 being more friendly to design than the previous system, but I'm still a bit pessimistic about it. It's their handling of the PS Vita that's making me think they haven't learned a thing.

>>169670
>If it's backwards compatible to PS3
That will only last a year.

>>169681
>It's their handling of the PS Vita that's making me think they haven't learned a thing.

There isn't really a perilous fuck-up concerning the Vita's launch. They just put a system out in a shrunken market (one in which they were always underdogs) and without killer apps.

>>169693
They also have the same issue the PS3 had at launch. Even with killer apps, it's still 250. I want to buy one but damn it's pretty hard to afford one.

>>169696

To be fair. 3DS was WAY MORE unreasonably priced than Vita.

And it had a much shittier gimmick.

>>169774
3DS is the successor to the DS, one of the most successful devices in gaming history with what might be the strongest game library of any platform. The "gimmick" of the 3DS was entirely superfluous to its success.

Vita, like any Sony console, needs a strong third party library to succeed. It'll get there eventually, I'm sure (Sony's very good at eventually getting great third party support), but right now the only Vita-exclusive game that's even really worthy of attention is Persona 4 Golden. And while it's not as good as Golden, Persona 4 is already available to people who don't have the Vita, which limits sales.

Vita's just off to a slow start until its game library comes around. If you'll remember correctly, the PSP wasn't exactly doing great compared to the GBA/DS when it first came out either. Like Moe said, they needed to wait until they had more killer apps if they wanted a strong launch. Nintendo could afford to learn the same thing (their launches have been fairly weak lately, and Wii U has just launched with an underwhelming launch library as well), but Nintendo fans are a lot more likely to buy a Nintendo system on faith than Sony fans are.

>A trusted source has told IGN that this controller is real. However, our source notes that it's an early prototype. The controller, in other words, is likely to change between now and when the console launches.

>>170213
Looks like a touchpad and a speaker. I will say that the speaker in the controller was one of the things I liked about the Wiimote. Holding it to your ear like a cellphone as Sylvia read off some weird-ass poetry in No More Heroes was a cool experience, though hopefully this speaker is more powerful than the Wiimote was.

I'm not sure how handy a touchpad would be. Maybe if the point was to just record swipes, that might be understandable. Now, if it was a mini touch screen that would offer game-customizable buttons or shortcuts, that would make more sense, and what I wish Nintendo had done with the GamePad.

Also, I wonder if the light on the top of the controller is more significant than a standard "yup, it's on" light. Almost looks like an adaptation of the Move's ball, which would be an interesting addition (and better than the Sixaxis.)

Courtesy of /v/.

>>170214
from the color tone that is my thinking too about move integration and a really good idea. Course the standard problem with a lot of features in a small space is some having not as good parts as if they were a separate peripheral. Hopefully it will be like the Xbox controller evolution where things started out as a brick but shrunk down and maintained and even added some functionality.

>>170216
Early dev versions of hardware are universally more bulky than their final counterparts. At this point the features and computer hardware are more or less finalized, so they throw the guts into some generic plastic chunk in order to get it to devs ASAP so they can get working on games to launch alongside the console. While we can get an idea of what the functionality of the controller will be from these, there will be a fair amount of change between what we see now and what ships with the PS4.

The gloves are off:

http://www.superpolypixel.com/sonys-pr-team-is-trolling-nintendo-microsoft-with-ps4/

>>170261
Wii fit came out half a decade ago.

But I'm interested to see what they do. Hope it's not too gimmicky.

Hey!

Guys!

Hey guys!

What if PS4 will be PS2 compatible?

>>170267
This is actually more likely than PS3 compatibility at this point.

>>170268
At this point I'd be surprised if it had even that.

Another leak?

http://onehitpixel.com/2013/02/15/second-photo-of-playstation-4-controller-leaked/44498

>>170268
I want to see what upscaling/smoothing/deinterlacing abilities that may bring.

Evolution of PlayStation: The Beginning

>Sony is planning to offer technology to stream games to its next videogame console, people familiar with the company's plans say, alongside other enhancements to bolster its position in the market.

>The new technology, to be unveiled Wednesday along with the new console, will allow users to play games delivered over the Internet, these people said. The streaming service, they added, is designed to use current PlayStation 3 titles on the new console; the new device is also expected to play new games stored on optical discs.

>Sony's plans come after it acquired Gaikai Inc. last year for $380 million. Though many companies now offer simple games over the Internet, Gaikai was one of several companies that offered online access to visually intense games, which ordinarily require specialized circuitry found on high-end personal computers and gaming consoles.

http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2013/02/wall-street-journal-playstation-4-will.html

>>170287
>mite b cool
>wait, why does this leave out so many interesting and important things about the first Playstatio-
>oh, it's just a glorified ad

>>170287
If you want real history, listen to the appropriately titled episode of gaminghistory101.

>>170306
>Implying the Move was anything but pathetic me-tooism

>>170314
But they toooooooootaly had it planed yeaaaaaaaaaaars before the Wii yo!

For the sake of my dad that they rip off the WiiU pad.
He really love playing cod:bo2 muli on that thing.

Also http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/h09zmi/playstation-4-top-5-playstation-moments
Good times.

Ultra-HD confirmed

>>170334
>The Sun

>>170335
This was my exact reaction.

>>170334
The fuck is "Ultra-HD?"

>>170340
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_definition_television

Essentially, HD is 2K lines (1080p), Ultra HD is 4K lines.

Sony's new marketing team is really stepping up for the occasion. Haven't seen ads like this or the yoga crack here >>170261 since the PSOne days.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=mTi5EaocGaY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmTi5EaocGaY

It's fitting, since the rumored tagline for the PS4 is "Play for the first time again."

>>170342
Crash Bandicoot Commercial with Nintendo

>>170340
Something we shouldn't have spent money developing.

>>170341
I'd kill for a 4K Monitor. Too bad they won't be affordable until around 2 years from now.

>>170378
You didn't honestly expect tech to just stop at 1080p, right? Especially after people spent 20 years complaining about "jagged" 3D graphics and smartphones/handhelds have given everyone a massive pixel-density hardon.

>>170342
I wish they wouldn't fuel the idiotic console wars. That's really something we should be moving away from.

>>170383
But that was their perceived Golden Era of recognition. Back when their only competition was Nintendo and Sega was bowing out. So yea a fallback to '90s era ploy while kinda childish makes sense.

>>170383
I don't think we've had a proper Sega-Does-What-Nintendon't bare-fist advertising battle between the consoles since the '90s. Since then the companies have only obliquely criticised each other and concentrated more on bigging themselves up and creating wanky university-graduate ad campaigns like that terrifying THE THIRD PLACE nonsense. Sony returning to brass tacks is actually kind of refreshing, but it's clear that they're out of practice considering they're attacking the competition for doing things they themselves do.

>>170387
Well they can't do Mascot Mocking since their "Mascot" has been out of the game for a while.

>>170382
>Too bad they won't be affordable until around 2 years from now.

Man, Sony sure is shooting themselves in the foot there, making a console with untapped potential that won't be viable for another few years, when Sony's TV and Monitor divisions can make products able to exploit them.

This next gens tag line (for all three) should really be: "We're really hoping you'll settle with at least one of us."

>>170391
much less anyone making games with that level of detail since BR discs are just now working out the specs for that level of recording.

>>170394
They used that this generation though.

>>170387
>I don't think we've had a proper Sega-Does-What-Nintendon't bare-fist advertising battle between the consoles since the '90s.
That's something I was very happy about.
The last thing the industry needs is companies encouraging its consumers to act like asshats.

>>170382
I thought the human eye could barely determine appreciable differences in anything over 1080p.

>>170404
the human eye can go much higher beyond even the maximum of Future HD. I believe the Human Vision acuity was equated to 500 Megapixels again its a hard thing to equate digital measurements to organic "analog" systems though what it can detect and appreciate so itcould be a personal thing (I dislike the High HD stuff because it makes it look "cheap" to me). What really stops HD is the current storage mediums and even at its Apex for next gen HD they'll have to figure out a system different than Blu Ray since it won't be able to handle the data on that level of processing gigabytes per frame even with upgrades to its writing medium.

Saw this as what a 15k Resolution would work out to


>A standard 1 1/2 hour movie would be 370,785,600 GB

So I think that end the end as with Digital Cameras its going to be what people see as usable as some are now saying we've largely reached a plateau with those where the average consumer doesn't need and won't desire a camera more than the 12-15 MP range.

I'm glad we don't have sniping in commercials in general as much anymore. I hate this whole "ours is better, you're not allowed to like both" mentality. It only encourages me to buy neither.

I wish there was more individuality between consoles, though. I know people who bought neither a 360 or a PS3 because they didn't feel there was enough of a difference to choose either.

The controller screen is so small. I wonder for what it will be used.

>>170436
Ain't been reading the thread? It's for the Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and Reddit buttons.

Things are finally coming up Sony:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/technology/article3681136.ece

Side Questing also tracked the popularity of the PS4 announcement with this informative graph:

http://www.sidequesting.com/2013/02/trending-february-17th-sony-is-up-nintendo-and-microsoft-are-down-down-down/

You know so long as PS4 doesn't have the "NO GAEMS" issue both the wii U and vita has I can see this being a successful console. I know it the reverse compatibility is an issue but if they have good games for it on consistent basis people will want to buy it.

Sony's stocks are back to "Buy" thanks to the PS4 (and Xperia Z smartphone being a top seller in Japan).

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/13432/article/sony-s-playstation-4-plans-attributed-to-huge-stock-increase/

There's also a strong demand for the PS4 from Gamestop and European retailers:

http://www.vg247.com/2013/03/15/ps4-gamestop-registers-strong-demand-for-new-console/

http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/03/13/retailers-experiencing-unprecedented-demand-for-ps4-pre-orders

>>170484
In theory you are right. In practice no fucking way. Generic shooters? Pass. Never was a fan and if I was I'd be burned out by now. Infamous is just another cheapquel.

Capcom now makes games with the purpose of PISSING people off regardless. Konami can't stop whoring Metal Gear games and that series has gone stale. Square Enix is now a shell of its former self when its best games are HD Collections from PS2's gen (KH 1.5) and its FF brand has been smeared thanks to FF13.

There is no guarantee of quality for the PS4 like how there was for the PS3 (til the disappointment came about). I know people who bought a PS3 JUST because of the eventual release of FF13. Now? Fuck if they'll even try to get a PS4.

To tell you the truth, the PS4 is a more difficult sell since the PS3 has been underwhelming gaming wise and it seems like its big focus was the social media shit that Sony whored out at the presentation and I frankly don't give a shit about that garbage. I won't even consider looking at a PS4 til after two price drops and for me to buy one I need actual games worth giving a shit about.

I think I would have been fine with them just making a less power hungry machine with similar capability to the original, non-stripped-down PS3. It was beefed up enough that I'd expect something like it would be able to compete with the WiiU and whatever Microsoft goes with, and developers have some actual experience with the architecture it uses now. Though that's partly because I have one already, and don't really expect to get a new console from them soon no matter what it is.

>>170382
I was hoping it'd at least wait another generation before bringing out an excuse for another line of televisions that "everybody needs to get". Still don't even care about regular HD, I'm not bothering with this. Though since Sony also makes televisions, it makes sense they would try.

>Square-Enix announced Final Fantasy Versus XIII years ago and the game was lost in the limbo. Square decided to halt Versus PS3 development two years ago, but the RPG wasn’t cancelled, why? Two years ago, Square-Enix moved the game to PS4 and Sony got in the project.

>Actually Sony is co-developing the game with Square-Enix, therefore, this game will be exclusive on PS4. Square renamed Versus to FF15 in the middle of this process. Sony’s studios are helping SE with FF15 assets among other tasks.

>We hinted this PS4 exclusive one month ago, but we couldn’t speak freely about this topic. Now, it’s all that we can say.

http://www.vgleaks.com/final-fantasy-xv-will-be-exclusive-on-ps4/

>>170857
Well, pretty much everyone saw that coming from a mile away.

>>170857
So I guess if the main KH team is being held hostage for this game that will be on the PS4....then KH3 will also be for the PS4 (unless they let the BBS Osaka team to make KH3) which is a console that CANNOT play PS3 games and is getting those HD Collections with new content like the Days movie. Eesh. Way to fail Square Enix.

Let me guess SE will make new HD Collections for the PS4 for these same KH games and FFX yet again?

>>170866
You still think KH3 is a thing?

>>170896
Dude, KH3 is one of those few games people want out of SE along with the fabled FF7 remake.

>>171598
KH3 is something I want because I'd like to see the story concluded, FF7 remake not so much (unless they're adding stuff from the later spin-offs). FF7 was done well the first time, there's no need to remake it. I'd rather see them remake a game they bungled the heck out of and do it right.

>>171600
Tear down Crono Cross and rebuild into an actual Trigger Sequel?

>>171603
Crono Cross was the actual sequel.

>>171603

If you do that it isn't Cross anymore.

>>171598
And TWEWY2: Electric Boogaloo.

And Bravely Default.

And a proper sequel to Legend of Mana, instead of the bullshit they've done in the recent years with the series.

...oh, and they need to get Quintet on the phone and talk them into resurrecting the Soul Blazer series.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/04/sony-indies/?cid=co6980084

>>172193
With the possibility of a AAA game crash on the horizon, everyone's looking for a way to court people who can make good games on a budget. About time, really. Too many good games got passed up last gen because they weren't retail.

Alright, the refurbished PS3 I ordered stopped playing games and cds. I had it two days, and it just stopped working.
.....but to be fair to the PS3, I was playing Sonic Unleashed. So it might have just said "Fuck this" and killed it's own disk drive.
Anyway, I'm thinking of sending it here after I mess with it a bit: http://www.endlesselectronics.org/
Oh, check out their wall of shame. Why would anyone take a heat gun to the guts of...anything is beyond me.

>Sony has proven itself over the course of the PS3's lifecycle that it's not afraid to try something different and target different markets.

>ModNation Racers, LittleBigPlanet, MAG and the likes of Journey or Tokyo Jungle on the PSN Store are all names that - while not huge sellers like Uncharted - show that Sony is willing to try new things.

>This will remain for the PS4, it seems, with Sony's Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida claiming in an interview in the latest issue of Edge that not all games will be targeted at FPS players.

>When asked about why the importance of the PS4 reveal's first game being decidely cutesy game Knack, Yoshida said "Yeah, it was pretty intentional.

>"Mark's idea was like, "What about a Crash Bandicoot for PS4?" When he suggested the concept of Knack, we were like, "Yeah, we hate to see all the PS4 games being FPS or action-adventure or very photorealistic" - you know, big-budget blockbuster games."

>Yoshida added, "We know that people like these games, but these are not the only kinds of games that people can have fun with."

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1880716/we_hate_to_see_all_ps4_games_being_fps_yoshida.html

>>172237
Sony confirmed for based?

>>172298
Maybe. We'll have to see how well they keep on it.

>Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida claims the topic of a PlayStation 4 locked down by always-on DRM restrictions never came up. While rumors of such things surround talk of the Next Xbox, Yoshida's sure to put some minds at rest.

>"Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it," he claims in a Game Informer interview. "The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust Internet."

>Yep! That is but one of several reasons why an always-online console would be a terrible idea, and I'm glad Sony at least has its head screwed on in that regard. Latest word is that Microsoft will not be doing it either, but the amount of rumors about the upcoming Xbox seem to indicate it at least considered it, going mentally further than Sony claims to have.

>The very fact the idea existed, even as a theoretical, disgusts me. But hey, at least Sony seems to have no intention of screwing both itself and its consumers in the pursuit of yet more toothless anti-piracy placebos. That's good.

http://www.destructoid.com/sony-didn-t-consider-always-online-ps4-restrictions-253318.phtml

Fun fact: If you own both a Sony Xperia Z and a playstation, you can get around 25 euros of free Playstation Store credit by downloading the 'Xperia Privilege' app. Check your privilege!
Not sure if it works in US yet, but UK and EU are fine.

>>173900
>at least Sony seems to have no intention of screwing both itself and its consumers
Oh, don't worry, Sony will find new and innovative ways to screw consumers.

>>173900
>Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it
I very highly doubt it. But the fact that they won't is perfectly fine.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/08/sony-ps-mobile-licensing-fee-lifted/
>Sony lifting development license fee on PlayStation Vita and Mobile starting ... yesterday
I don't know how much this will invigorate indie development for the Vita or Sony phones, but it's a step that shows that Sony is trying to do away with NO GAEMS. A positive, if minimal, move.

>>173912
I'll never understand why people keep saying Sony has no games when it comes to the home console when it's Nintendo with this problem now-a-days.

As for the Vita; good on them that they're doing that. I'm hoping for a Vita Skullgirls, but it would still cost the team money to convert it to fit and all that which is a bummer.

>>173913
Because the meme was born from Sony. And yeah, they have a nice PS3 library now, but the Vita's library is still fairly sparse, about where the 3DS was a year or two ago, and that's what this move targets.

>>173914
>the Vita's library is still fairly sparse, about where the 3DS was a year or two ago

The Vita's Library is better than the 3DS' right now. It's just a bunch of good games that nobody cares about.

>>173916
No Moe, the Vita has ONE good exclusive. ONE. Soul Sacrifice. Literally EVERY OTHER GAME WORTH PLAYING is already available on another system.

>>173917
Soul Sacrifice isn't even that good, anon. It's like SMG/Uncharted 2 where it gets a bunch of good reviews and hype, becomes "de facto good", and the platform gains good will for it existing. Gravity Rush was the "de facto good" Vita game before Soul Sacrifice, and both aren't really world enders. There are tons of better Vita games, but nobody cares about them because they don't carry a prestigious image.

Still, the Vita needs more games like that, because image matters more than having good games.

>>173921
> There are tons of better Vita games
You aren't actually naming any.

Gravity Rush was garbage as was the entire Uncharted series by the way.

>>173924
>Gravity Rush was garbage as was the entire Uncharted series by the way.
It's cute how you're bashing someone for not posting valid arguments/examples with their opinion and then proceed to do the exact same thing yourself. While I get that the Uncharted series isn't for everyone, calling it 'garbage' is just plain stupid.

>>173934
>you're bashing someone for not posting valid arguments/examples with their opinion
I'm not bashing "someone." I'm bashing "Moe."

The difference is significant.

As for Uncharted, there's not one creative or interesting thing about it. It stole the platforming from Tomb Raider, the shooting from every third person shooter ever, and the story/dialogue from Insert Generic Action Film Here. National Treasure comes to mind, except Nathan Drake will never be as entertaining for hilarious as Nicholas Cage.

It's the Frankenstein of video games, and a major step down from Naughty Dog's previous work with the Jak games (or at least Jack 2 and 3).

>>173940

>the Jak games (or at least Jack 2 and 3)

You mean basically every platformer except with a Grand Theft Auto map thrown in?

Also I went back and watched Jak 2/3's cutscenes. The plot is not as glamorous as I remember. A lot of characterization is spotty, dialogue ranges from from mildly entertaining to basically serving as exposition dumps and it's painfully apparent that the game was written from the perspective OF a game which makes a lot of cut-scenes awkward to listen to.

It's hard to take things seriously when a lot of the time character interaction boils down to 'Do this thing that'll advance the plot along maybe!'

The characters were... cache stereotypes and a lot of the conflict felt contrived at times. Jak 2 tries to emphasize Jak's DARK SIDE but this rarely if ever translates to anything from a game mechanics perspective as you're always in control of Dark Jak form and he doesn't cause any real harm or damage with it which never gives the impression that it'll destroy him. The story seems to try and pain Jak going through some kind of redemption arc but we don't get any dialogue that would imply it and no overt characterization to show it. There's ELEMENTS of a decent story in there but they all go by so quickly and with such carelessness it's like I'm watching an episode of Legend of Korra.

Jak 3 is hampered by a twist ending that at once is a neat idea, nay I'd say it's a GREAT IDEA, but again it's hampered by a confusing execution. If Daxter is a Precursor and the Precursors are Ottsels like him then what the hell is the Precursor Stone? How come Jack had to touch it without being corrupted by Dark Eco? How come the metal head leader didn't know Precursors were Ottsels, you'd think he'd seen one or two. If he did then why didn't he freak out upon seeing Daxter? Why did he think the stone was a precursor egg? Do Ottsels actually lay eggs? Pretty big fucking egg for a tiny rat thing. What was that thing that came out of the stone at the end of Jak 2? It appeared to be some manner of projection in Jak 3 but that just raises further questions. Was it some kind of Beacon that let the Precursors know what planet it was on and thus they sent the projection there? Was it just a special artifact that harnessed and powered Eco?

Why was Errol brought back as the antagonist of Jak 3? Why was he a cyborg? Did the Dark Makers find and rebuild him when he blew himself up? Did he rebuild himself with Krimson Guard robot tech and THEN make contact with the Dark Makers? Why? Originally he was just a dick who wanted the same girl Jak did and worked for Baron Praxis. Why is he now the harbinger of all that is wicked in the universe? Were the fucking Reapers not enough of a threat?

How come Jack was into Keira for Jak 1/2 and then suddenly be all up in Ashlynn's crib for Jak 3? I thought she and Torn had some thing going on! But maybe that's just my shipping senses talking and me being stupid. Seriously though I wanna like the Jak plotlines but goddamn the more I think about them the more they leave a million and one questions unanswered. And given Naughty Dog wanted it to be a complete trilogy and just made Jak X as a side game (and nobody likes Lost Frontier) I think it's a poor oversight they didn't at least TRY to have some of it make sense.

>>173944
Okay I take it back: Naughty Dog was never good.

>>173945
>Talking shit about the first four Crash Bandicoot games

Sony finally made a profit:

http://www.gamechup.com/sony-fy12-results-ps3ps2-ships-16-5-million-company-makes-profit-after-for-years/

>>173960
>Those comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trQXK8oBS4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

>>174126
http://www.psx-sense.nl/124432/playstation-4-console-gelekt-via-teaser-video/

Probably fake being how it's flat.

>>174126
Little on the creepy side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjXU1anoC5Y

>>174493
http://imgur.com/a/qjybv#vf6SyjP

Masterful trolling by Sony right here.

>Sony stocks going up after shitty Xbox One reveal

Absolutely justified.

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE

>>174544
It really doesn't mean that much without figuring out earnings-per-share and a whole bunch of other shit.

>>174544
From what I've heard, the spike in stocks is because the XBox One uses Blu-Ray, which is a pie Sony has their fingers in. It's still hilarious, because whether the XBO succeeds or tanks, Sony gets a cut of the profits.

>>174544
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/14819/article/sony-shares-surge-after-xbox-one-reveal-while-microsoft-s-fall/

Nintendo's stock also went up after the Xbox One unveil.

>>174561
An update on this story says that there was a report that Sony is looking to spin off their entertainment division (including the Playstation) that likely caused the spike. While the XB1 may have helped it, the larger surge seems due to this news; mostly just a funny coincidence.

I like how Sony doesn't even need to make attack ads for Xbox One. Social media is doing it for them.

>>174766
THAT'S AWESOME

>>174766
>UEFA Champions League
Day one purchase.
But for fucks sake that Nani Red Card...

>>174766

>>174766
Oh how I long for the days when console advertising was all about shitslinging attacks against competitors.

>>174815
But that's the beauty of the add, they aren't, they are drawing a comparison between the two company outlines for the two systems, it's not Sony's fault Microsoft looks dumb by comparison, they did it on their own.

Sony sent out their VIP invitations for their E3 conference in the form of a gold PSone. Classy.
http://pic.twitter.com/OmyHppnjbQ
http://pic.twitter.com/bhJ4cmSB7L
http://pic.twitter.com/d8kZQRxgyg

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-sony-mandates-vita-remote-play-for-ps4-games

PSeye3 bundled with the PS4 (boo), and Vita Remote Play mandated for all games. (yay!)

>>174966
>more stuff for my vita
Fuck YEAH

>>174966
>We saw Xbox do the Kinect thing, so we're doing that now too
>also please for the love of god buy the Vita!

>>174966
>PSeye3 bundled with the PS4
We already knew this from the glowing blue thing on the back of the controller they revealed at the press conference.

>>174935
But does it play?

>>174935
Microsoft's invitations?
Severed cat heads.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/It-Official-PS4-Feature-Used-Game-DRM-Like-Xbox-One-56264.html

>>175090
>any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers

Supporting bullshit is just one step away from doing it yourself.

>>175093
It's basically the same as PC. Just treat it that way. If a publisher tries to shit all over you with intrusive DRM, don't buy the game.

>>175094
>This publisher has opted not to put the DRM on the game.
>Content patch update. Update game to play.
>SURPRIIISE! DRM!

>>175095
That's happened to me with Dragon Age on PC. Suddenly I couldn't play the DLC content anymore without being logged on to an EA account, which also meant I could no longer load my saves.

>>175095
Don't buy EA titles.

>>175098
Though its why they touted their support of Pride Parades around the world so people won't care about this if that even makes sense. EA doesn't really understand that if they are still a shitty games company no amount of support for things OUTSIDE that wheelhouse will actually change the perception of them.

>>175090
>It-Official-PS4-Feature-Used-Game-DRM-Like-Xbox-One
>It's Official: PS4 Will Not Feature Used Game DRM Like Xbox One
fucking...

>>175106
seriously that's a horrible title.

MATT RANTS! Setting It Straight with Sony

>>175334
>Games like uh... you know... that one.
They better whip out a rainbow orgy of games at E3 if they keep jerking off all their supposed games.

>>175355
(Psst. That's not an ad for games on the PS4, it's an ad telling Indies how easy it is to develop for it)

>>175356
I know; but their big thing as of late is jerking off how game focused the PS4 is compared to the bone when they really haven't shown anything for it yet.

>>175419
Yeah, seems like they want to foster some goodwill before dropping the bomb themselves.

>>175419
Playstation Plus is so fucking good, goddamn.

>>175420
Well, the roll out on the "Instant Game Collection" WAS E3 last year, so it might be more to throw the success of that program into their big speech on the strength of the brand...

Which will help with whatever backlash, merited or unmerited, does come out of their announcements.

So how was Sony Conference?

>>175623
Still going, but they've won simply by not having DRM up the ass.

Official PlayStation Used Game…

>>175638
WHAM RIGHT FROM THE TOP!

XBOX ISN'T GETTING UP FROM THIS ONE FOLKS!!

>>175638

$399

>>175638
Oh, fucking SNAP. Microsoft is going to feel this one in the morning.

>>175638
This is the first time in like ten years I feel like using the term "Owned!"

>>175638
Based Sony.

>>175638
Arctic burn.

BUT
On PS4, PS+ will be required for multiplayer.

HOWEVER
They've already established PS+ as an amazing thing that I already have anyway

"Fly"

Why are all these games selling for $99.99 on Amazon? That's just a generic catch-all price set, right?

>>175667
oh wouldn't that be a horrifying kick in the balls. Welp back to my PC tower.

That kind of pricing is just Amazon taking shots in the dark

>>175667
It would be quite hilarious (and quite clever) if the price-point was $100 per game. They unveiled the console launching at $399, so everyone is mad hype about that, but if the games are that expensive that means they're shooting for the razor blade model, and the PS4 is taking a huge loss to enable that. It would also make their used games policy have more sense...

>>175673
Sony already said their games will range from $0.99 to $59.99.

>>175672
umm..where disk go?

guys my heart is racing I've never been an early adopter of a new console generation but oh god what do I dooooooooooooooo

It's Ogre. Sony has won.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/54373/playstation-4-will-not-have-region-lock-according-to-sony-pr

>>175672
Clearly this is Forerunner technology.

In any case; I was pretty pessimistic about this upcoming gen, but if Sony can land a few more exclusives I might find myself owning one. (provided I can duel mod my 360 stick to work with it somehow)

FFXV and KH3 are multiplats. Funny how Sony ended up doing what Microsoft did too.

>>175739
Sony seems to be going for an all-out pissing contest. I'm not surprised. They're a business who realized their leverage potential. There wasn't even a second where I believed they were doing anything out of the kindness of their hearts. But as long as the consumer profits, I don't fucking care.

>>175676
Here, I think.

So, I hear people like dem Kingdom Hearts.

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>>175744
As always, hoping for Keyblade Master Kairi and more obscure Disney characters.

Heck, go obscure Squeenix. Throw in a Parasite Eve or Bouncer cameo. Just for the love of God, no Star Wars or Marvel cameos.

>>175744
Starwars and Marvel levels are almost guaranteed.
If they give us a Treasure Planet or Robin Hood one I will lose my shit.

>>175771
Too many crazy crossovers spoil the broth. I like keeping it within certain company parameters. Although Loki would make an interesting boss.

Here's my list of wanted Disney cameos/worlds:

>>Treasure Planet
>>Atlantis
>>Robin Hood
>>Princess & The Frog (Facilier as boss. C'mon.)
>>Tangled
>>Wreck-It Ralph (Getting meta?)

FF-wise, I just want confirmation that Tidus and Wakka didn't die in the first game, nor did Sora/Kairi/Riku's parents.

>>175765
Why not? Everyone's gonna expect them.

>>175777
It just seems like it would totally, completely clash with the aesthetic and feel of the game.

Besides, Disney has enough characters to use even if they never use Pixar. (And they'll never get around to the obscure Disney characters if they start using Marvel and Star Wars...some of the movies Disney pretends never happened are among my favorites. I'm looking at you, Black Cauldron.)

>all these fucking fantastic multiplayer games coming for PS4
>still don't have a regular crew to roll with on PS3

>>175778
>completely clash with the aesthetic and feel of the game.

Well there's no way it could be worse than Port Royal.

Besides, I think they should focus on worlds with enough lore in them to build an original story out of them like the first game instead of reliving the movie plots lazily.

>>175778
>Black Cauldron
I will support this if and only if they can get John Hurt for Horned King.

The best part about bringing the Black Cauldron would be that they could just call on bits from other Prydain books rather than redo the plot of the movie.

>>175784
I don't know if they remedied this in Birth By Sleep, but dear god KH2 was a repetitive clusterfuck of mashing X or Triangle and heal spam without much strategic thought like KH1 might have with stuff like Strike Raid and Aero and the like. And also seconding the terrible rehashing of movie plots with Sora Stu. I don't remember it being nearly as bad in the first game, but that might just be my nostalgia goggles.

Controller demo:

http://www.viddler.com/v/944416f2?secret=82898940

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEs33aWkX2Q

Sessler really liked The Last of Us.

>>175775
>Loki
God no, KH fandom is terrible enough as is. Though it would be funny watching it go even deeper into full retard zone.

>>New Kingdom Hearts
>>Having to start from the bottom and relearn most skill as per normal.
>>Going to need a world to introducing gliding to the players.

Disney, I know you and I have had our issues in the past, but just give me this, and all will be forgiven.

>>175867
>Disney recognizing the 90's series outside of a few comics and the ducktales game remake.

>>175868
I can dream!

>>175825
KH1 only very very loosely adapted the movie plots for the game. Aladdin was the closest thing to it and the only things related are Jasmine getting kidnapped, Genie Jafar being sealed and Aladdin withing Genie free. And the subplots were always related to the overarching narrative, Sora helping movie characters out for a reason other than "Oh this guy is my friend even though we just met, I have to put myself in life threatening situations to save the land or whatever." KH2 redid the movie plots SCENE by SCENE and severely butchered several elements and gimped several characters. Keyholes were no longer hidden away in areas that made sense, but linked to random items that the heroes just HAPPEN to find. Finding a keyhole in KH1 was MAGICAL because it made you feel like you worked to find it and gave you a sense of accomplishment, with that awesome tune playing in the background. KH2 shows you the keyhole automatically with an item the heroes have that activates for no reason other than the game saying "Congrats, you beat the boss, onto the next world."

Now, I still love the game, but there are so many more things that irritate me about it than KH1 does. Button mashing, QTEs, convoluted plot, linear levels, unbalanced-as-fuck difficulty, FUCKING ATLANTICA and to top it all off the massive gay undertones.

>>175871
To be fair, all of those were big problems in KH1 except linearity and GTEs. And there were several parts of KH1 that really could have used some linearity (Monstro). Atlantica was technically improved in KH2 because you didn't have to do it.

And of course the KH2 Gummi Ship sections were the best Star Fox game ever.

>>175872
>all of those were big problems in KH1 except linearity and GTEs

Did you miss the part where I said convoluted plot? Because KH1's plot is not complex. At all. In fact by itself and not in sync with the rest of the series, it's pretty damn simple especially for a JRPG. And it may not have the most balanced difficulty in the world, but at least it didn't have any bosses that took me 5 times to beat because they were retardedly annoying. (Demyx, Xaldin) And it didn't have enemies that made me want to kill myself because they took so long to kill. (Those fucking cars)

The Dark Sorcerer | E3 2013

Fuck me, why are their tech demos so much better than their games?

>>175893
Because they are tech demos

>>175865
As do I, but keeping to the magic-using Marvel characters would keep the story reigned in a bit. Having to tie vats of radioactive goo and The Force into the plot would just convolute it further.

>>175867
>>175868
>>175869
Hey, acknowledging Ducktales now could be a hint at something more.

>This year’s E3 sent shockwaves through the gaming world yesterday when Sony announced a PS4 price tag $100 lower than Xbox One, and this is certainly having an impact on retail pre-orders already. Considering that neither console is out for at least another five months, it’s impressive enough that Amazon’s Top 20 gaming chart is absolutely dominated by pre-orders. By far the big winner so far, however, is Sony. Just a quick look shows 8 out of the top 20 gaming products on Amazon are PS4 related, including the PS4 itself which holds the top spot. By contrast, there are just 3 Xbox One related products. Just days ago, Xbox One held the top spot, so it’s clear that E3 has had a pretty big effect.

http://www.gamingfuture.co.uk/ps4-pre-orders-dominate-amazon-top-20/

>>175916
How the Xbox One held any spots in the firstplace (before or after E3) is confusing to me.

Content Patch - June 12th, 201…

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/sony-raises-its-sales-forecasts-for-playstation-4
The response to Sony's E3 conference and the amount of pre-orders was so unexpected and large that they've raised their own internal forecast.

I love how their success is formed on simply how bad Microsoft is handling this.
They look like gods in comparison in spite of being little more than NOT having all the anti-consumer additions.

I really hope this sends a strong message to Microsoft to get their shit together and stop treating their customers as moneybags that need to be closely monitored.

>>176029
The PS1 and PS2 were successful as a result of everyone else fucking up too.

>>176035
PS2 actually rode off the popularity of the PS1 and being a cheap (at the time) DVD player as well. The Dreamcast was technically superior to the PS2 in every way, launched earlier, but between the DVD playback, PS1 popularity, and Sony lying through their teeth about what the PS2 was initially capable of (Emotion Engine!). (Sega did mostly well with the DC, but they lost a lot of fan goodwill with the Saturn.)

It also helped that it came out before the Gamecube and XBox.

>>176098
PS3 at the time was a cheap Blu Ray player, but that didn't help much. Then again, FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS.

>>176104
The insane cost didn't help, but neither did the BluRay player. When it launched you still had the HDDVD vs. BR war, so people didn't want to invest in a single player in case the opposition won; most people didn't have TVs that could take advantage of the Hi-Def (flat screen prices were just starting to fall); it wasn't an ENORMOUS improvement over DVD as DVD was over VHS, so there was no huge consumer drive for a better format to begin with; the price of the PS3 was roughly the same as a regular BR player at the time.

So, while DVD helped initial sales for the PS2, BR did very little for PS3.

>>176138
Just to illustrate how fucking right you are.

http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/technology/60155-windows-8-enterprise-take-up-terrible

The data, from Israeli software solutions company SysAid, indicates that as of April 2013, six months after the official launch of Windows 8, only 0.53% of enterprise computers running Windows OS were running on Windows 8.

By comparison, six months after the official launch of Windows 7, stastics indicated that 11.3% of enterprise computers running Windows OS were running Windows 7, out of the 11.68% total market share (as reported by Net Applications.)

Windows is fucking gunning it as hard as they can to get Windows Blue out, which they RENAMED Windows 8.1 just so they don't have to admit they've given up on the giant flaming shit pile that is Windows 8.

>>176140
Sorry tiki, wanted to rewrite it.

>>176029
The fact that they stuck to Win 8 despite how much backlash it got because Microsoft suits wanted it to stay as it doesn't give much hope for backpedaling on the boned just yet. CEOs would rather ride the crash as low as it can go instead of just admitting they failed and lose their job.

Its the only reason why they're sticking to a "Can't afford Next gen gaming? Stick to the 360" message for anyone who dares to complain about bad internet connectivity or are acting as if the global market can be ignored. Especially when CDProjekt Red - you know, the people who made The Witcher Games are based in Poland. A country that isn't going to receive preferential support by Microsoft at launch until maybe somewhere in 2014.

>>176140
>Windows is fucking gunning it as hard as they can to get Windows Blue out, which they RENAMED Windows 8.1
Why the hell do they think attaching the name of a unpopular OS to their new one will help it in any way? Is it stubbornness? Is that what highly paid corporate marketers are doing these days?

>>176156
The worst thing is marketing is being unsure, so Microsoft is trying to appear as if they are 100% cock sure of everything they are doing despite having no idea what the fuck they are doing, EA being very similar in that ideology for example.

>>176156
>>176140
You guys do realize that Windows 8.1 isn't a new OS, but a free upgrade for Windows 8 users, right?. It's basically SP1 for Windows 8. Blue was just its code name while in development.

>>176106
Initially, sure. It's been a pretty big selling point in the past couple of years, though. People who are on the fence about buying a console usually get convinced to buy one for its added blu ray functionality.

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/PS4-Pre-Order-Launch-Day-Bundles-at-Amazon-Dominate-Movers-and-Shakers/12605

Age of Booty Preview-ish
>Sony hired this man to be one of their top tier guys.

Earlier today, Sony released a firmware update that allowed users to set trophy notifications on or off. It also had the unfortunate side-effect of removing the XMB from a large number of people's systems thus bricking it. Reports seem to suggest it largely affected those who upgraded their hard drive, but there are a few cases where people with the pre-packaged 160GB, 250GB, and 500GB HDD also getting their system bricked. Sony has since rolled back the 4.45 update, but those affected are still left with a system that freezes on the start-up screen, leaving them with the option to either wait and see IF Sony releases a fix for this or to simply re-format their system.

After the thunderous presence they made at E3, this is quickly washing a lot of that feel-good vibe away.

>>176470
Man I'm glad I don't play my PS3 regularly

Exclusive PS4 Interface video …

>>176470
Just another reason that game patches and system updates for consoles is A Very Bad Thing. I can understand updating some overlaying UI, but the underlying system should never be updated except in the most egregious of circumstances in order to avoid this kind of thing.

>>176479
For their sake I hope that I can still just be a username(Tenotmon4) and a avataricon(a cute litte ladybug).
OR ELSE!
Showing off all the games a buy on sale is okay doe.

>>176482
Not even if it would upgrade the performance of the console by making its OS more efficient?

http://shoryuken.com/2013/06/19/playstation-4-incompatible-with-ps3-mad-catz-fight-sticks/
And then I got less excited for the new gen... again.

>>176594
When have you EVER been able to use old console peripherals on the next generation? Seriously.

>>176597
The PS3 being compatible with PS2 controllers was the reason it had such a huge tournament presence early on.

>>176608
Were there a lot of fighting games on PS3 at the time? I only really got into the genre with Street Fighter IV, which is also the game Madcatz started making Arcade Sticks for. There WERE barely any decent affordable Arcade sticks available for PS3 when the console launched. That's not going to be the case for this generation.

Although we still don't have a fighting game for PS4, so the discussion is kinda pointless anyway.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/26/sony-sacrificed-the-playstation-4-camera-to-beat-microsoft-on-price
>According to multiple sources, in the months leading up to E3, Sony nixed plans to include the camera add-on with every system and shave $100 off its originally planned price of $499. Most importantly, it did so quietly, informing its retail partners only of the removal of the camera, not specifying the lower price so as not to tip its hand to Microsoft.

>The decision has also rendered a major design element of the DualShock 4 controller — the built-in LED Move tracker — largely useless.

>Microsoft's decision to bundle a Kinect with each Xbox One and require it for use may be unpopular, but it guarantees that every user will have the option to try Kinect-enabled games and experiences.
I never considered that. Also, it's not the mandatory camera bundling that made the Kinect One unpopular (though it didn't help the unpopular price), but the "always on and connected" requirement for it.

Now that the Xbone is popular again after Microsoft "took out" the pants-on-head DRM, more devs will create games for it, and possibly incorporate Kinect more if it "feels right". Of course, if they're making a multi-plat, they probably won't bother because they can't be sure of someone opening a PS4 camera or not.

My question is, if the camera accessory costs $60 on its own (according to the article), why was the original PS4 price $100 more? Extra milking of consumers? They could have had the best of both worlds by keeping the camera but releasing at $449, still beating the Xbone's price, and just eat a bit more in losses (which they are certainly already taking on the console alone at $399).

The whole camera thing will probably be shoe-horned again this gen, but if Sony had made it compulsory then it could have evolved enough to be not just useful, but perhaps necessary in the 9th gen. Now, probably not, because most devs won't put out extra effort to support it if they can't be sure of its use.

>>176920

Kinect functionality hasn't enhanced a game yet. I doubt very much that that's going to change.

>>176921
Agreed. However, the Kinect came out half way through the 360's life, was not a required component for the console, etc. So, devs could either devote extra resources to an input method that only a small-ish portion of the console owners had, or they could save money and focus on standard inputs. It didn't help that the quality was poor.

With the Kinect being required and included, it will make a lot of devs willing to invest in using it. We still won't see many good uses for it early in the Xbone's life (mostly it will be used for voice commands early on, I think), but after two or so years it will start having some impressive games that use the Kinect's functionality.

When that happens, the Xbone may take a leap ahead in the race by offering games and experiences that the PS4 and Wii U can't replicate (or that devs won't bother to, since neither would have guaranteed inputs necessary for such). This is what happened with the Wii--it offered an experience you couldn't even come close to approaching on the other two consoles (hahaha sixaxis), which is why it had massive sales numbers. So, assuming everything else remains the same, Sony's sacrifice of the camera will get them a head-start now, only to be overtaken later in the generation by the Xbone's offerings.

I read that the Xbone Kinect can read individual finger movements; this makes me wonder about reading eye movement, which might be great as a reticule in RTS games for the console.

>>176920
I don't know man. Nintendo already tried movement with the Wii, as much as the console worked out for them I don't think xbone has the same targets. The Wii was occasionally fun with a group of people, but when I'm playing I prefer to just sit with a controller like most people I know.
>I read that the Xbone Kinect can read individual finger movements;
A controller can do that too.
And as far as voice commands go, I hardly even hear people use siri anymore.

I hope developers have some good ideas because if not xbone will be far behind.

>>176931
>sit with a controller like most people I know
Aye, but the controller as we now it is still a recent thing. The NES controller, which set a standard used ever since, was quite different from prior video game controllers, most of which had a paddle/track ball, number pad, joystick, or combination thereof. Controllers since then have all built on that idea, until the Wii (which still had the original NES setup (sideways), but the controller's focus was on movement.)

We're nearing 30 years, so it's prime time for a video game input revolution. We're seeing that in touchpads, cameras, and microphones, but none have really done anything terribly well or put themselves on top. The WiiMote Plus was a good direction, but without any kind of force feedback it's still lacking for immersion.

I think that, in ten years, we'll have something akin to a bastard child of the Move and Wii controllers as a standard.

>A controller can do that too.
No, a controller can read two fingers: pointer and thumb. And then it can only read specific movements in the form of button presses. The other three are relegated to simply holding the controller. (I suppose you could use the middle finger as well with shoulder buttons, but I've always found this horribly uncomfortable on any controller.) The new Kinect camera can read individual fingers (and, I'd guess, their movements), giving you a lot more possibilities than just mapping buttons.

Now, it would be great if the industry could make a core set of hand gestures, like a Gaming Sign Language, that you can use across games so not every game is its own set of RPS25 (http://www.umop.com/images/rps25.jpg), but I don't expect this any time soon (assuming the Kinect can, in fact, handle such things.)

>>176923

The kinect shipped enough units to qualify as a console in itself. If there were good games to be made with it, we'd have sen at least a hint of them by now.

>>177022
Kinect units sold
>24 Million

PlayStation 3 units sold in America
>26.7 Million

Nintendo 64 units sold in America
>20.6 Million

>>176933
>No, a controller can read two fingers: pointer and thumb.

Three.

Remember there's an R2 and... Whaddya call'em on Xbox controllers, bumpers?

>>177025
Do you have a point you're trying to make?

>>177033
Gotcha covered:
>(I suppose you could use the middle finger as well with shoulder buttons, but I've always found this horribly uncomfortable on any controller.)

I feel like Extra Credits video on the Kinect kinda nailed my problem with it.

When you press a button and see a person move on screen there's enough disconnect there that it just registers as a simple command to you.

But when you mirror the MOVEMENTS of performing something in order to have a character do them it feels awkward, much the same way that a robot that looks human but not really looks kind of terrifying. Because we recognize what an action is and performing what is basically a lesser or incomplete version of it to get a similar effect feels strangely inefficient to us.

>>177037
Kinect is way more popular than everyone seems to think it is.

>>177056
I always thought motion cameras could be used as something more than just YOUR BODY IS THE CONTROLLER! *waggle*.

>>177067

If you measure popularity strictly by units shipped, sure - although it's been bundled with the system for quite some time so even that measure is a little misleading. But there. are. no. games. People might have a kinect but very few people actually care about it.

>>177069
Its mostly sold to parents as the ultimate party device or a way to get people together to play, it doesn't exactly work as advertised but it can get people laughing at how terrible the games for it really are.

>>177199
It might just be. Not gonna lie. I skipped this console generation, but I might get a PS4. I'm just kinda feeling it right now.

>>177199
>no mention of the wiiu
I know its not doing so hot, but they could at least acknowledge that the whole thing is a 3 way competition.

>>177201
But it isn't. Wii U is just doing it's own thing. PS4 and Xbone are clearly vying for the same market. Wii U is just gonna have its own cozy little niche, just like Nintendo had with the Gamecube: the people who will buy any Nintendo first party game regardless.

>>177201
This is the last time they mentioned Wii U (bottom right).

Oh edge.

At least they're mentioning the games.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/07/gamestop-ends-ps4-pre-orders-as-unlimited-supply-runs-dry/

>>177499
>Buying the first wave of a next gen system
When has this ever been a good idea?

>>177504
When preordering things started being a sensible thing in general.

Ratchet & Clank are back.

http://pixelenemy.com/ratchet-clank-into-the-nexus-is-insomniacs-next-game/

>>177687

>>177687
Meh, don't care. I've played enough Ratchet and Clank games to last me a lifetime. Once you play one Get All the Special Bolts, Max Out the Weapons (and do them again in Challenge Mode), Get all the Skill Points, you played everything the series has to offer. After Up Your Arsenal I was burned out and never again wanted to touch that series again.

I merely watched the cut scenes for the PS3 games and feel like I didn't lose anything. I will pirate the 2015 Ratchet and Clank movie and will watch the cut scenes of this new game on Youtube. That's how its done with this rehashy series.

More info plus a trailer at IGN.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/11/traditional-ratchet-clank-is-back-with-into-the-nexus

>>177692
Yep, definitively a rehash. The video confirmed the gameplay is doing the exact same thing the previous games made you do, get the Skill Points, get the special bolts, and grinding to max the weapons.

This game is so worth just watching the cut scenes on Youtube. Plus fuck Talwyn, Cronk and Zephyr. Those are shit characters from the Future Trilogy and my god are those shits a complete suckfest. Bring back Angela Cross at least (with all the melodrama about Lombax origins surprised she didn't make the cut and YES I know what went down in that radio broadcast from the Future Trilogy in regards to Angela, doesn't excuse not seeing her again when she actually has a real personality as opposed to those three crap fest characters from the Future games).

>>177692
LOOKS FUCKING SICK.

>>177687
Kind of miss the innuendo subtitles.

PS4: 20 Things You Didn't Know

>>177693
Fuck off. Tools and the one that came after weren't all that great, but Crack In Time was fucking amazing.

>>177830
I played Crack in Time and didn't feel all that impressed by it. Clank's gameplay improved but it also had its own set of problems like getting stuck on the time puzzles. But for the most part the game was the same shit we've been doing since Going Commando. Special bolts, grinding for max weapons, Skill Points AND the new addition of collecting annoying Zonis so that we can actually enter planets while previous games didn't pull that shit on you. So the Zoni collecting comes off as an artificial way to extend the game's length with filler.

PS4 In Our Hands! The PlayStat…

>>178257
>it got a LAN hole
THANK FUCK! My wireless sucks~
Keep losing contact all the time but I cant afford a better one...
Så, cables for the win!

>>178271
When we're talking online gaming, forcing wireless is an extremely stupid idea unless your first goal is compatibility (as in handhelds). No matter what your wireless connection is--a/b/c/g and eventually ac/ad--nor how close the wireless access point is to the system, you will always have far better latency and dependability through a wired connection.

So, that they put one on is no surprise.

>>178272
After the Wii & Wii U I dont take that for granted.

>>178294
Nintendo has been taking their stupid pills extra hard for a few years now.

Of course, no actual Nintendo console has ever had a LAN port from the get-go. Those that had network capabilities required some sort of add-on to use it. Only with the Wii was a Nintendo console network-ready out of the box, and then it was wireless.

But, as I said, if compatibility was a big part of your system it would make sense to leave a LAN port off, and that was a big thing about the Wii. The Wii U... well, they fucked that up 20 different ways to Sunday.

>Pre-orders for Sony's Killzone: Shadow Fall on PS4 are tracking ahead of next-gen rivals Forza 5, Ryse and Dead Rising 3, a report from analyst Cowen & Co. has revealed.

>The 2013 Cowen Video Game Odometer is based on an analysis of NPD sales data and Amazon.com best-seller data from past years, which the firm claims to give it 96 to 97 per cent accuracy. Data has been monitored since E3 in June and is updated every few weeks.

>Out of a maximum score of 100, Killzone: Shadow Fall currently scores 30.3, which compares favourably to next-gen competition.

>Forza 5 is the top placed Xbox One title at 18.8, followed by Dead Rising 3 at 15 and Ryse at 13.2. Sony may well be concerned about its full launch line-up, however, with Knack only scoring 7.7 and Driveclub barely registering on 3.0.

>Cowen states that we are "very early in the pre-order cycle for most of the games we are tracking".

>To put these figures into context, last year's Black Ops 2 scored 100 and went on to generate sales of $1 billion in 15 days. This year's Call of Duty: Ghosts has a score of 73, meaning it's on track to sell fewer units than Blops 2, but could perform better than Modern Warfare 3.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/killzone_shadow_fall/news/ps4-exclusive_killzone_shadow_fall_pre-orders_outpacing_forza_5_and_ryse_analyst.html

Enlightenment - PlayStation One Commercial
Aw what a blast from my past.
Have been wanting to share this for ages!

Vita sale at Target.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/318222-target-ad-818-824-all-ps-vita-systems-19999-splinter-cell-blacklistsunkist-offer-disney-infinity-new-release
-12-off-select-playsets/

Recent reports like this >>179212 are suggesting that the PS4 will release in late October. Here's another report backing up the October 21st release date.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2042406/is_ps4_release_date_21_october_reveal_at_gamescom.html

This would be a big advantage to Sony if true, as it would give them time to establish the PS4 base before Microsoft releases the Xbox One in October. However, it does come across as too early. Although, Sony has been one step ahead of Microsoft ever since they showed their next-gen system first.

>>178884
Speaking of Infinity, apparently the PS3 version's got some game freezing glitch right when you start the game and import a character.

List from: http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/08/here-is-the-ps4s-list-of-launch-games-as-well/
Physical PS4 Launch games:
• Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
• Battlefield 4
• Call of Duty: Ghosts
• Driveclub
• FIFA 14
• Just Dance 2014
• Killzone: Shadow Fall
• Knack
• LEGO Marvel Superheroes
• Madden NFL 25
• NBA 2K14
• NBA Live 14
• Need for Speed: Rivals
• Skylanders: Swap Force
• Watch Dogs
Digital PS4 Launch Games:
• Basement Crawl
• Blacklight: Retribution
• Contrast
• Counterspy
• DC Universe Online
• Doki-Doki Universe
• Flower
• Hohokum
• Minecraft
• N++
• The Pinball Arcade
• Planetside 2
• Pool Nation Extreme
• ResoGun
• Super Motherload
• Tiny Brains
• War Thunder
• Warframe
Confirmed PS4 Indie Games:
• Assault Android Cactus (Witch Beam)
• Fez (Polytron Corporation)
• Final Horizon (Eiconic Games)
• Guns of Icarus Online (Muse Games)
• Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number (Dennaton Games and Devolver Digital)
• N++ (Metanet)
• Rogue Legacy (Cellar Door Games)
• Samurai Gunn (Teknopants)
• Starbound (Chucklefish)
• Switch Galaxy Ultra (Atomicom)
• The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Nicalis)
• Velocity 2X (FuturLab)
• Volume (Mike Bithell)
• Wasteland Kings (Vlambeer)

#yolo

AM I the only person who saw that conference last night. Ugh I lost sleep because of that thing, had to be up for school so I couldn't sleep I mean. Anyway some of the games look lamn others look nice. Those fucking translators need to be fired and replaced. I lost my shit for like an hour straight because they were just bad. Killing the Vita console while announcing a new vita though is kind of lamn.

...lamn?

>Yesterday Sony Computer Entertainment surprised pretty much everyone by announcing the PlayStation Vita TV, that was almost immediately available for preorder in Japan. How did Japanese gamers react? Looks like they bought it in droves.

>At the moment the Vita-powered microconsole is already sold out on Amazon Japan in both its incarnations (stand alone and value pack including a DualShock 3 controller and an 8 GB memory card).

>Below you can check out a screencap of both offerings. If the initial impression is to be believed, looks like Sony has a winner here, at least in Japan. We’ll have to wait to see what the reaction in the west will be.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/10/playstation-vita-tv-already-sold-out-on-amazon-japan/

>>180120
lame... i was so tired that i was seeing double.

>>180156
Mite be cool.
But also, this could mean... TBFP vita games!

>>180200
INCOMING!!!

Vita Slim & Vita TV: Can t…
This is a really good explanation of why the new Vita TV could be very fun.
Vita TV part starts at 5:00

Since I already have a Vita, I have no intention of buying a Vita TV anytime soon (though if it ends up doing that Gaikai streaming thing some of the rumors have been talking about, I might change my mind later), but I'm still excited about how well it's doing--increased market-share for Vita will mean more good games for it, so mine can be something more than just a portable P4G machine.

NO PS4 GAMEPLAY on YouTube?!? …

What the hell is Sony thinking.

>>180322
Perhaps like Sakurai, they don't like it when people share gameplay video and ruin the experience for everyone else.

>>180322

If they're gonna provide their own free streaming service I see no issue?

Like, honestly the whole share video thing seems to be more of a tutorial for morons who get stuck and think "Metroid can't crawl" than anything.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/12/sony-not-bringing-vita-tv-to-west-yet-can-technically-play-ps3-games-via-cloud/

Not surprising, but I'm curious about the more technical details that would enable "streaming" PS3 games to the damn thing

Does anyone know how to transfer PS3 saves between two different PS3s with different accounts?

>>180889
But Taco Bell has the Doritos taco. How awkward.

>While giving the keynote speech at an International Game Developers Association conference in Toronto, Naughty Dog creative director Neil Druckmann revealed that The Last of Us was initially supposed to be a reboot of the venerable platforming franchise. The task the team was first given was to reboot Jak & Daxter, and they spent much time "exploring the . . . fantastical world."

>After some time, the creative team discovered that their best ideas were the ones that strayed from the Jak & Daxter reboot concept. This got the team wondering if perhaps the only reason they were rebooting the franchise was to fulfill marketing obligations, which they felt would have resulted in a lackluster experience for longtime fans. After the team came to this conclusion, they were given the go-ahead to come up with something new. This became what we now know as The Last of Us.

http://www.psu.com/a021201/The-Last-of-Us-began-as-a-Jak-+-Daxter-reboot

>>181239
>Super realistic ferret Daxter
Hooooly shit I'm glad they did away with the reboot idea.

...wait
>Ellie was originally your annoying but sometimes helpful furry pal
...

Official PlayStation 4 Perfect Day Commercial

>>181714
Sony missed a real opportunity by not releasing it on 11/12/13. 'Course, that only works in America...

>>181239
>Pabu the Fantastic Fire Ferret

For The Players Since 1995

PS4 controller and game unboxing videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWzpsVzLEOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliC9s3tXE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNqK9MQL3M

Target will have a Buy 2 Get One Free deal for the PS4 launch.

>>181840
Shouldn't those guys be in their 30s at the end?

Glad I'm giving this some breath room, that day one update is gonna be a BITCH with everyone trying at the same time.

Here's what you can't do with the PS4.

>No backwards compatibility
>No MP3s or CDs
>No external harddrive support
>No media streaming

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

>>182142
We've known about the lack of backwards compatibility for some time now, though. Since they switched architectures they would basically have to include an entire PS3 in the case to run PS3 games on the PS4, so they decided to just ditch it.

The MP3/CD and external hard drive things are surprising, though. Probably just Sony trying to hawk some proprietary bullshit.

>that URL when underlined looks like "the ultimate fag"

PS Vita sales are up, but still no good.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/203688/PS_Vita_sales_on_the_rise_but_Sonys_game_business_still_flagging.php

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/65193/playstation-4-retail-console-boxes-sure-look-thin
So they can fit more into stores.

There are no words.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/11/playstation4-teardown-video/

L-lewd.

>>182388
How can something still be hungry when it's already starved to death?

>>182388
so this for the current model or that next gen one I've heard and seen stuff about?