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>>7481 >>7485 Frankly, I'm not into the whole Incredibles thing that you guys have been pitching here, but I have been trying to think of the exact sort of kinks that most often go along with this fetish, and to try and think of a short description. Of course this is all my personal interpretation, so someone else might feel completely different. In my view the four big things are the power fantasy, the submission fantasy, the fascination with states of mind, and the "stupid human tricks."
The power fantasy is the really obvious one and the one that has the most broad appeal. It's the reason why plenty of comedic fiction or porn that isn't specifically fetishistic will have a mind control plot. More or less everyone has fantasies about having control over others, about having the ability to indulge themselves where no one can stop them or say no. Make people give you what you want, get back at the bullies and assholes in your life, attain those sexually unattainable people that you lust after. Make that bitch of a boss at your job metaphorically get off of your jock and then literally get on your jock.
The submission fantasy is probably the one that the most real fetishists are into. I think that for a lot of people in this "community" or whatever you want to call it their mc fetish is basically an outgrowth of or a really specific form of a D/s obsession. While it can be similar to or involve a power fantasy thing, the focus is less on what is done and more on what the relationship between operator and subject is. The incredible vulnerability, the subservience, and blankness and obedience say for example, is emphasized. Not to put anyone on the spot, but TDL seems to have a lot of his work inspired by or involve sort of crazy bondage rituals or the kinds of games that Doms play with their subs. In something like this the mind control is kind of like a shortcut to the deepest levels of submission, or even a means of accessing a level that is not otherwise possible depending on your view/portrayal of the mind control.
Another sort of fetish or fascination is what's with the state of mind of the subject. Here you might see some crossover with people who have a thing for drunk or drugged people. The fascination is less with the subject's body and more with what changes are going on internally, or how the subject's physical responses are indicative of what's going on in their head. What is the subject thinking, or how are they not thinking? Are they still "them," or should they be considered something else? This is the sort of thing that I guess depends on what flavor of mind control you're going with. One of the things that I think really effected me when I was young was some of Chris Claremont's old comic books. I can't think of any clear examples off the top of my head, but he used to do this thing where characters would just suddenly switch sides or become sort of evil versions of themselves under mind control. The thing is that they weren't sort of robotic or zombie like, they'd mostly talk and act still like themselves. I'd wonder what that's like, what could be going through their heads? And when it happened to the girls I suppose that I couldn't help but imagine myself in the villain's role and think about some things from option #1.
"Stupid human tricks" is a term that I've heard used to describe stage hypnotist shows. Maybe it's not quite right to say that this is something people are fetishistic for, but it can add a lot of flavor. If nothing else, narrative-wise I like to see hypnotists in fiction do something more and more creative with it than, "Zap! You are now my slave forever, come fuck me and then make me a sandwich." It's a way to both create an interesting spectacle and to show rather than tell the relationship between subject and operator, possibly catering to option #2 in the process. Take sort of physical control concepts and either play them straight or apply them to sex, like telling the subject that they can't move or respond while they're being molested, or stimulate them and make them unable to orgasm without a trigger. And of course there's post-hypnotic suggestions, like it seems you're planning to work with. I personally prefer sort of "Manchurian Candidate" style of mind control to "you are overtly my slave forever" sort of mind control. They way in which it's done can also help reinforce other themes. I personally really like the idea that a person is completely normal most of the time, but underneath, where even they're not aware of it, they have a subservient slave self, or an evil self, or a super-slutty self, or a robotic not-self that just carries out a pre-programmed command. You can get a lot mileage mixing this with #2 and/or #3.
By all means, anyone else feel free to chime in with any discussion, tell me I'm all wrong and I don't "get" this fetish, add your own ideas, whatever.
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