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223008 No. 223008
Old one was saging.

Ben Affleck Batman Shenanigans

Geoff Johns getting his overrated mitts on Superman again

Everyone's turning White.

Forever Evil was not as bad as Infinity, two more issues to see how it all wraps up

Harley showed Ivy her homicidal, pointy beaver

I think that's about it.

Oh, and JL 3000 is darkly comedic, action-packed fun
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>> No. 226234
The problem with focus testing is that humans are really bad at identifying what we like or don't like about something. It's certainly possible to tell through analysis what works and what doesn't, but our gut reaction isn't trustworthy. We all have a tendency to ascribe something's quality or lack thereof to superficial qualities that aren't actually at fault.

That's why, when Valve makes a game, they don't focus-test, even though they play test extensively. Instead, they have their playtesters play the game and they film their faces while they play. That way, not only do they get their genuine reactions in real time, they can identify the exact moment frustration or pleasure kicks in, and make minor changes to affect the reaction for the next round of play testing.
>> No. 226238
>>226234
So you're saying episodes should be reviewed before they actually air?
>> No. 226239
>>226234
That actually sounds way more informative. Maybe I should do that for those I ask to do a chapter review.
>> No. 226242
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>>226234

"How many of you kids would like Itchy & Scratchy to deal with real-life problems like the ones you face every day?"
All the kids raise their hands
"And who would like to see them do just the opposite -- getting into far out situations involving robots and magic powers?"
All the kids raise their hands
"So you want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots?"
>> No. 226247
>>226242
Loaded questions man.
What can you do?
>> No. 226284
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226284
From /tv/ with love.

http://picosong.com/evAq/
>> No. 226289
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226289
Here's hoping we'll see a Dick!Bats and Damian movie somewhere down the line. They had some good back and forth in Son of Batman after all.
>> No. 226315
https://movies.yahoo.com/video/batman-beyond-short-film-192211473.html
I like this.
I really like this!
>> No. 226318
>>226289
Batman: R.I.P movie when?

No? Yeah, didn't think so.
>> No. 226321
>>226318
Dude, the Animated movies are 90% Batman, it's somewhere on the docket.
>> No. 226326
And wow the quality of these movies has been dropping starting with Flashpoint, they are fucking super terrible now.

Also is there a more fucking lame, lazy, overplayed villain than Deathstroke?
>> No. 226335
>>226326
Doctor Doom?
>> No. 226336
>>226326
Doctor Doom?
>> No. 226355
>>226326
>Also is there a more fucking lame, lazy, overplayed villain than Deathstroke?

No.

>But Doctor Doom
Has actually been in less multimedia lately than Deathstroke. I wonder if he'll be in "Gotham".
>> No. 226365
>>226321
While that is true, trying to incorperate as much of R.I.P into an hour and a half or so film while still making sense might be a challenge.
>> No. 226367
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226367
>>226326
Deathstroke's plot armor isn't nearly as thick here as it usually is. He's skilled, but still vulnerable. So maybe that's a step in the right direction.
>> No. 226368
>>226367
No, using him at all here is fucking terrible, the whole movie was but his role in it especially.
>> No. 226425
I watched Bats & son today, and I have to say I enjoyed it, even it took the main premise of the comics and run it into the ground. Stupid, but fun and harmless.
Ninjas vs guns, Ra's al Ghul going full Yoda, Gatling gun that shoots arrows, Deathstrokevania, Dr. Langstrom going berserk on a antidote-shooting turret, and plenty of silly nonsense.

>>226368
Yeah, Deathstroke is terribly overused on the wrong scenarios, and it was ridiculous to see him as a ninja wannabee. But >>226367 has a point. Maybe, they'll stop using it as a generic batvillain and more as DC's Tasky...

Also, I found terribly disappointing that Talia was mostly a punching bag/damsel in distress for 2/3 part of the movie.
>> No. 226426
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>>226425
I don't get that complaint about Talia. She kicked ass for about 50% of the movie, killing dozens of Deathstroke's goons and quite a few helicopters. Even when she was caught and tortured, she refused to give any information away, including Batman's true identity. Not to mention the climax where she took a bullet for Damian so Slade couldn't coerce him into letting himself get killed. She even took her Lazarus Pit bath in stride whereas Ra's usually comes out of it screaming in insane agony.

Then there's this moment. Holy shit. Keep in mind, neither Talia nor Bruce is exactly shy about physical contact with the other (the yacht and sea base scenes), but during this really awkward, impromptu, and sincere custody battle, neither can really manage so much as a simple handshake. It says a lot about their respective shortcomings when put out of their superhero/villain comfort zones. Plus, it happens during the daytime, during which Batman's formidable costume and Talia's alluring catsuit look rather ridiculous.

Something to note is that both her and R'as stumble into Slade's deceptions because they're unused to not being the apex predator human; a mistake that Damian nearly replicates a few times if not for Batman holding him back and advising him to take note of his surroundings before running in guns blazing. In a way, that kind of shows why the League and the al Ghuls are so fixated on Bruce. Granted, the contrast could've been done in a manner more well-thought out than Talia raiding the castle through the front door (preempted by an explosion no less), but the writers were clearly fixated on getting to the scenes where Damian fights or quips at people as quickly as possible. Again, not an excuse, but you can see what they were going for and why they fumbled.

To the film's credit, it is trying to adopt the shakiest part of Grant Morrison's Batman run. It gives Damian a reason to be in Gotham in lieu of Talia sending him there to simply rattle Bruce and try to bring him to her side. R'as's death also creates a parallel between Damian and his father, building upon the unspoken implication that he isn't all too different from the furious, antisocial, and confused young Bruce Wayne who had just lost his parents; If that wasn't enough Talia is even gunned down in front of Damian. A premise that is arguably flubbed when Damian "spares" Deathstroke as there wasn't enough onscreen character development to make it organic.

The Langstroms served as an interesting parallel to the Wayne/al Ghul situation (note that Langstrom's wife and daughter have similar facial features to Talia and Damian's) as they are a family imperiled by the dealings between the League of Assassins and a "Bat Man" patriarch.

However, while I liked the movie, there are some things that I took heavy issue with:
>Damian's "and history repeats itself" line at the fairgrounds. Removing it would've made the scene more poignant with just the implication
>the Man-Bat plan being called "Operation Airstrike"
>Langstrom manning the antidote Gatling cannon
>the CGI vehicles
>the way R'as deflected bullets at the start of the film and his really dumb clip slow motion backflip

Other than that, I had a pretty good time. I hope they learn from this rough start and make some sequels; mostly because Damian's conversation with everyone (even Gordon, who doesn't directly speak to him) except Deathstroke were thoroughly entertaining.
>> No. 226433
>>226426
While you point out interesting things, like how shy both Talia and Bruce are, I have to disagree with something:

>She kicked ass for about 50% of the movie

She only was active on that part (which is less than 1/3 of the movie) and after that, shes easily taken out in Deathstrokevania.

Also, her design suspiciously looked pretty much like Asami Sato from Legend of Korra.
>> No. 226448
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226448
>A thrilling new chapter of Dick Grayson’s life begins in this new, ongoing series. It’s a super-spy thriller that will shock you and prove one thing: You might think you know Nightwing – but you don’t know Dick.

DC went there
>> No. 226452
>>226448
Man why wasn't that the cover image they lead with? Even Janin's best work has a weird plasticy quality to it.

A surprising number of those solicits seem heavily dependent on Morrison's work:
>Bruce continues to feel the fallout from his extreme new crime fighting methods — is he ready to face the might of Heretic?
>Luke Fox has rejected his father, which leads him to rebuilding a more deadly and dangerous Leviathan!
>Superman finally succumbs to the Doomsday virus and transforms into SUPERDOOM!
And the Futures End ones seem especially confusing. Then again those are slated for September, quite a few months of stories away, in the midst of a time travel event. I wonder if the Earth 2 team will finally be off Namek by then.
>> No. 226454
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>>226452
Don't forget, Bruce going up against the forces of Apokolips to cheat death (not his this time) once more.

>Superdoom isn't wearing his badass corporate Power Armor

Missed Opportunity right there.

But hey, look at it this way. Morrison referenced past stories all the time to add flavor to his stories. So it's come full circle, though it being less than a year since some of those ideas were showcased makes it look more like a blatant rip-off than a respectable artistic choice.

Plus, people reusing Morrison villains, that almost never, ever happens.
>> No. 226584
>DC Solicits September's "Future End" Comics, Doesn't Name a Single Creative Team

Although to be fair, I can't think of anyone who'd WANT their name on it.
>> No. 226586
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226586
Put on your Chastity Mind Helmets because Gothtopia's got nothing on this:

Teen Titans Go! - Dreams - Robin's Dreamyoutube thumb
>> No. 226593
>>226586
That was the worst episode.
>> No. 226596
>>226593
Every TTG episode is the worst episode.
>> No. 226598
>>226596
As someone who really liked [i]Teen Titans[/c], I have a good time watching them with my 13-year-old brother. I'd say they're enjoyably stupid, and they throw in a lot of DCU references that I like.
>> No. 226599
>>226598
I think I would like it more if the Titans actually acted like themselves instead of being onedimensional parodies for the sake of humor.
>> No. 226602
>>226596
>Every TTG episode is the worst episode.

I find most episodes average to decent.

Personally, I thought "Legs" "Be Mine", "Opposites" and "In and Out" were hilarious, but that's me.

Show has solid ratings, so kids some to like it at the very least.
>> No. 226603
>>226602
>some

seem*.
>> No. 226610
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226610
The comic is also pretty funny and possibly the best Teen Titans book in years.
>> No. 226611
>>226610
I'm gonna bet they didn't even MENTION Starfire because of what a goddamn shame what was done to her is.
>> No. 226624
Guess I'm one of the few whole likes this show. It's fine, not great, but just fine.
Love all those DCU callbacks, and it's a show I can't take seriously. Silly and fun. Something thatDC hasn't been in a long time.
>> No. 226628
>>226624
Yeah I agree. As I said, I find most episodes at least decent, with 4 or 5 being actually very amusing and quite fun. It's not like the show is designed as anything other than comedy, and in that aspect it had at least a few home runs, going by my personal taste of course.
>> No. 226629
>>226610
From which issue number is that panel btw.?
>> No. 226630
>>226629
Nevermind found it and downloaded it, it's issue #4.
>> No. 226631
>>226628
>>226624
My beef with the show is not the quality of what it is by itself, but what it represents. After years of Teen Titans, a still very popular series by the time it was cancelled, being off the air...all this hype about a new series, with the original character designs and voice actors made everyone shit their pants with excitement. And instead of a new season of the brilliantly actionpacked, dark yet fun smoothly animated series we had before...it's now cheaply animated in flash and a sitcom. All because Stuart Snyder has this idea that comedies are inherently more profitable than action shows.
>> No. 226634
>>226631
Yup, my beefs the same.
>> No. 226637
>>226631
I think it was rather unrealistic to expect them to do a direct continuation. I know that such revivals happened for Futurama and Kim Possible, but those shows were without new content for a shorter period of time and had a larger adult audience. Doing a few one-minute shorts is different to doing a 26 episode long season.

Besides, the series had 5 seasons, that's a good and long run, and it ended on a pretty high note (quality wise). A direct continuation with a mostly different writing team (many of the writers of the 2003 series are tied down to different projects), is just asking for an underwhelming continuation.

Take a look at Xiaolin Chronicles as a sequel revival of Xiaolin Showdown, it's of such a poor quality that I would've found it preferable if they just rebooted the damn thing instead of calling it a sequel. There's other examples. take seasons 3 and 4 of Dexter's Lab without Tartakovsky. Or even the above mentioned Futurama Comedy Central seasons (which were very uneven).

The only direct revival of a US Cartoon where a drop of quality didn't occur is Kim Possible, in my view.

Why do so many people demand for good series to continue indefinitely until they become unwatchable?

I prefer some loose ends not getting tied up, than having a zombified show that's jumped the shark. I don't think a full blown comey spin-off was such a bad idea.
>> No. 226644
I'm relatively Ok with the series, but that episode was awful. We were told we were getting uniquely animated vignettes of the dream sequences and all we got was cat heads, live action, and a scathing dub job.
>> No. 226651
>>226611

I think that they mention how she's dating Roy Harper now, something she seems kind of uncomfortable with though seemed psyched about it.

In other Teen Titans related news, it seems that Cyborg's going to be in Superman vs Batman...
>> No. 226654
>>226637
You forgot a revival with closer ties to Teen Titans: Batman. I still hope someday that will happen again. They'll bring as much of the old crew back together again and give them 20 more episodes to play with.
>> No. 226662
Kid Bruce Wayne chosen to be Captain Marvel? Cute.
>> No. 226665
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226665
>>226651
>I think that they mention how she's dating Roy Harper now
Indeed they do. Though the word "dating" is never used. But anyone who gets the joke knows what is being implied/referenced.

>>226654
>You forgot a revival with closer ties to Teen Titans: Batman

You mean the 4th season of Batman TAS, "The New Batman Adventures"/ "Gotham Knights" on Kids WB?

I'm not so much forgetting it, I just don't know if one can really count it as revival. Yeah there was almost 3 years between the broadcasts, but almost entirely that same team worked on the first two seasons of Superman TAS in the meantime, so it never really split up. The (2003) Teen Titans writing team has now been split up for 8 years, so it's not really comparable.

Besides, even if you count it as revival it doesnt really undermine what I said, the Kids WB Batman TAS season was by far the most uneven of the 4 seasons. It had some real clunkers like "Critters", "Cult of the Cat" and "Animal Act". And they also lost Eric Radomski with his dark sense of humour and his fantastic and incredibly well drawn title cards for each episode.

Of course I'm still grateful that it exists, since without it we wouldn't have such gems like "Growing Pains" or "Beware the Creeper" ("Mad Love" would've still existed in its comic form). But it's hard to deny the season was more uneven, than any of the previous 3.
>> No. 226666
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