>>221303
Just a clever little way to get around SEGA's "No family" mandate, I think.

>>221310
Fucking Sega and their mandates. What do they think they are, the owners of Sonic the Hedgehog?

Oh.

>>221310
But they've been doing it like that since forever, the comic just started calling him "Sir Charles" too, which was kind of stupid.

>>221314
...why was it stupid? He was knighted in SatAM. There's nothing wrong with showing him a bit of respect and using his honorific.

it's actually kind of a loss

Jules was bad-fucking-ass

I dont even remember the name of sonic's mom though, totally under used, no memory of her at all.

>>221319
I just feel like it's weird how some characters switched between the two. It's not like Antoine being "Ant" sometimes, Sir Charles is the kind of name you use when you have a very different relationship with the guy.

If it'd just been people in politics like Max saying it I'd probably not mind, or if he had been knighted after Max came back and people started calling him that, but it felt really dumb when everyone else suddenly adopted "Sir Charles" when that totally wasn't a thing they were doing before.

I mean, imagine if it was revealed Rotor was actually knighted at birth and everyone totally knew this and Tails and Bunnie just started to call him "Sir Rotor" most of the time out of nowhere. It's strange and kind of stupid.

That's just an opinion on a really, really minor detail, though.

>>221324
Bernie. She never had the same hair-style twice.

>>221333
The last one made her a total MILF and not in a Milfy way

So who do ya think will get a SU arc next?

What I want - another Chaotix arc, but I'm betting it'll be Babylon Rogues since we haven't seen them in a while.

Remember that time when the Chaotix were playing tag and Mighty tried to SMASH VECTOR'S FACE IN WITH A TREE so he wouldn't get tagged?

That was great.

>>221357
Knuckles would probably be a good choice. He's got a lot of questions to answer, and we haven't seen him in a while. The Chaotix would get to have some screentime with that too.

>>221357
>>221368

Man this makes me sad. The new Chaotix won't be the same.

>>221372
Why not? The only thing that really changes about them is Charmy's comedy not being hindered by the brain drain backstory.

>>221373
One of the cover artists implied the new Chaotix is going to be like its game counterpart.

>>221372
You realize I said the thing about the tree sarcastically because it was absolutely absurd and terrible, right? It wasn't even used to be funny or something, Mighty was just accidentally written as a sociopath.

So someone on BK came up with the following examples to explain why people are upset with the reboot.
>Imagine if characters like Mighty, Ray, Nack, and Bark were built up alongside the current main cast and just disappeared one day in a similar reality warping incident.
>Let's say in the next Sonic video game, the following random characters were removed from the series for the reason that someone at Sega created them and no longer wants them in the games- Knuckles, Amy Rose, Metal Sonic, and Chaos.

Is it a bad thing that I would be mostly okay with this? I mean, I'd really miss Knuckles, but I don't think I'd be that upset.

>Let's imagine Dragonball Z right after Cell has absorbed Androids 17 and 18 and achieved his perfect form. Then out of nowhere, a random machine of Dr. Gero's appears and warps reality in an attempt to get revenge, turning Perfect Cell into his imperfect form and making a large chunk of the cast, including the Z Warriors, disappear. Then, Imperfect Cell runs away in fear, ending the arc.
> Imagine the battle with Tobi and Naruto being interrupted by the completion of Project Tsuki no Mei and then the genjutsu world being improperly reversed. As a result, a large chunk of the cast is now removed from the series with all their lingering plot lines being ignored. Then a weakened Tobi or even Madara runs away, resulting in the end of that arc.

And is it a bad thing that I'd actually PREFER if this happened? Naruto's been stalling itself for like three years and hasn't been good in a dog's age, and the Perfect Cell dickwaving and the Cell Games were probably the worst parts of the Cell arc, and it would have left Cell open to return again and do something cooler.

>>221373
Now it's only hindered by his being entirely unfunny.

>>221378
*rimshot*
He has potential, you just have to do him right.
It's like Marine.

>>221374
Yeah, which they already were.

>>221377
That example places the characters being gotten rid of as far more prominent than they should be (besides Chaos.) The main characters are there, as they always have been, with some very few exceptions.

> I rather resent the fact that the videogames and their characters--which I find at best inoffensive, which is a quality I ironically find rather offensive--have now become the main source of backstory in this brave new 'verse

I don't get you guys sometimes. Every time I browse your "actual" forums I find stuff that just bewilders me.

>>221394
Plus4chan is Plus4chan's actual forum. Each community is separate, even if some members overlap.

>>221394
People who grew up with the comic have a reason to be reasonably upset.

>>221405
I understand people being reasonably upset.

Complaining that video games are the main source of backstory in a video game adaptation isn't reasonable.

Image of Sonic Archives.

Is this the first one to credit writers?

>>221407
Apparently 22 is getting the same treatment.

It's also really weird that Penders gets top billing even though he only wrote 1/8th of the content of this volume. Fingeroth or Bollers should be getting top billing, but Fingeroth isn't even on the list. Neither is Maxwell, even though he drew the cover story.

>>221406
Consider it just being upset that something good was turned shitty. That's reasonable.

>>221411
Mav, what's your problem with understanding that people have different opinions? I would argue that a lot of the shittiness is thankfully gone now.

>>221412
Not Mav, and it's pretty funny that you can say that with a straight face since your entire post is about stopping other people from expressing their opinion that things are currently shitty.

Grow up and accept people won't like what you like. I'm not forcing you to hate it.

>>221412
Also not Mav (in fact I can't stand him) and giving you the bird SOOOO hard right now. Ian might be able to make this bearable, but we lost a LOT of good things. Don't be an ass dude, long-running plots got thrown out and while tons of unpopular chars were lost, tons of popular ones appear to have been too. You don't need to be Mav to be seriously honked off by all this nonsense.

I've been arguing for the quality of the comic book (and I still will,) but yeah not everybody who's angry is Mav and they're right to dislike what happened. I don't really think the book's been gutted, but side characters like Elias did have their fans and it's not a good thing they don't get to see him. If that colors their opinion, then that's just what happens. Nothing is gained by making it a big fight about who's betraying the fandom by liking it or not liking it.

Complaining that the video games are the backstory is really stupid, of course. But we've moved on from that.

>>221415
> (in fact I can't stand him)
While this hurts, I can understand why it is. I am who I am, I suppose. Sorry I'm such a bother that I have to be brought up so often.

>>221411
>Consider it just being upset that something good was turned shitty. That's reasonable.

Woah woah woah.
When did we jump from "I'm mad that Sonic comics are basing their backstory on video games" to "the comic is shit"? That's one heck of a leap. If you don't like it because you don't think it's any good anymore, that's one thing, but that's a totally different matter in and of itself because that's something determined both by a variety of factors and personal preference.
And I would hope that video game comics referring readers to video games wouldn't be the ONLY reason someone would think things are shitty now, since the comic did exactly this back in the day anyway.

>>221412
>>221414
>>221415
>The one time I'm not the person calling Mav out, it's not Mav.
Hue.

I'm really not as bothered by the characters leaving as other people are, but I totally get why some people don't like it. Maybe I don't mind as much because the comic's lived way past its natural lifespan? I'm not sure. All I know is I'd still be willing to see if the comic's good or not no matter which characters you removed. But, again, I can totally see why some people are super upset.

The thing I don't get is that I've seen people call the new issues shit or bad solely because of the lack of previous characters. Like, it's way harder to find actual critique with the writing, and that's concerning. A lot of the best stories didn't HAVE a lot of characters who are gone now in them, and a lot of good ones were the ones only introducing those characters for the first time, so I don't really get when people evaluate whether the comic is good or not based on if characters who showed up only a few times over the last eight years are showing up in again or not (I think Elias showed up...fourteen(?) times over Ian's run? Mostly at the beginning and the end, and about half of them as a very minor figure). I get why they'd be peeved, but saying the comic is good or bad based on that? I don't get it.

>>221416
I'm pretty sure that cover is the only time Max's Naugus Armor hasn't looked like absolute garbage.

So uh, new discovery in the MJ vs Sonic 3 debate. It's a couple months old but nobody brought it up.

The Jetzons - Hard Times

Sonic 3 Music: Ice Cap Zone Act 1 [extended]

Hard Times x Ice Cap Zone - Wave Comparison

So here's a question that's been bugging me.

Is new Antoine supposed to be taller than Sonic?

>>221473
Antoine has almost always been slightly taller than Sonic. Sonic's quills just reach higher than Twan's hair. Bunnie and Rotor are too.

In fact, Sonic heights tend to correlate with age.
Silver is exactly Sonic's height and Blaze is just short of that and makes up for it with her heels, and they're only a year younger. Knuckles is a year older and happens to be 10cm taller. Tails is significantly shorter, and Charmy and Cream are shorter than he is because they're pre-school age. The guys in their 20s, like Vector and Big, have traditionally been way bigger than Sonic, and Eggman's the tallest guy ever because he's old (and human).

http://boards.4chan.org/co/res/57559850

Is this guy for real or not? definitely not, as there is so much stupid-sounding stuff here

>>221474
>In fact, Sonic heights tend to correlate with age.

It's almost like people tend to grow bigger with age.

>>221483
>20 year olds tend to be 2 feet taller than 18 year olds.
> Variations in height regardless of age do not exist
> Tall and short di not exist

>>221480
Yeah, not buying it at all. It was sounding very unlikely to begin with, especially when it became "time travelling high school Sonic", but Shadow and Rouge were what sealed it being fake. That said, I almost kind of want to see Shadow in a Hawaiian shirt.

>>221484
Oh, is that what I said? No, what I'm pretty sure I said was that people tend to grow bigger with age. Tend is not an absolute.

>>221467
http://gene.sonicretro.org/Tuneage/Frozen%20Times.mp3

>I almost kind of want to see Shadow in a Hawaiian shirt.

Drawfag from /co/ delivers

>>221494
NSFW version

And Russian Blaze

>>221496
I'm confused

>>221496
L-lewd.
>>221497
That's adorable. I'd make a pole(sky) cat joke, but she's not a skunk.

Im confused. Ian's posted a few things on Bumbleking today, one of them confirming that the cut content isn't coming back.

http://bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6338&start=5235#p377810

At first I thought he mean't just Penders' work, but not just his stuff has been cut.

So is that confirmation that Mina, Monkey Khan etc are gone for good too? :/

>>221523
People keep trying to find meaning in every single thing Ian says despite Ian saying he's not trying to sneak hidden answers in his posts.

Ian said the cut content isn't coming back unless something crazy happened. We knew this already. Finding any deeper meaning in that is pointless. We don't know if "cut content" refers to anyone non-Penders, or if it just means the stuff Penders ran off with.

If we're going to assume everything that hasn't shown up yet is 100% gone forever, we'd be including people like Munch the Rat or Alan Quail too, since they haven't been mentioned yet. Who's to say they exist?

New thread: >>221521