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220059 No. 220059
Old thread: >>217079

Forever Evil is still happening.

Bane: We Bats now.

Bob Harras: Still ruining DC.

TV Shows: Plenty of rumors for new series, including Young Justice.

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>> No. 222293
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He knows how to drive.
>> No. 222301

>>"open to change"

Open to buying books about a completely different character who shares a name with a character you like; because DC has no fucking idea that we like the characters not just the name.
>> No. 222302
Seriously, why DC keeps pushing Deathstroke as a bat-villain?
>> No. 222303
>DC comics
>> No. 222309

Probably because, history aside, he makes way more sense as a Bat-villain than as a Teen Titans villain, or a villain for most anybody else in the DC universe for that matter.

That said, that trailer looks like complete ass.
>> No. 222311
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It had its moments.
>> No. 222312
To be totally honest, I don't love Bateman and Son, but the whole point of the story was a big homage to the 70's Neil Adams super suave James Bond Batman stories. Damian for all the hullabaloo was barely the focus at all. And this movie seems to miss that.

It seems that the DC direct to DVD, since they started to almost exclusivly do adaptatons, the features tend towards adaptations that completely change the style of story so much it makes you wonder why they didn't do an original feature or they adapt almost panel for panel and loose the magic of comics without using things film can do to compensate.

Though in fairness the 90 minute runtimes are a big obsticle that they have to work around. Actually, I've missed a few recently, are they all still 90 minutes?
>> No. 222313
How does that make sense? The only basis for him being a Bat-villain is the one DC uses: he's popular.
>> No. 222315
James Tucker straight up said upon succeeding Bruce Timm that they weren't really going to do adaptations anymore and that if movies were based on specific stories those stories would be jumping off points for them to do their own thing.

They're all 75-80 minutes. Except Batman Year One, it's 65.
>> No. 222324

Ask a random person who makes the most sense fighting the villain who is essentially 'Batman, but a mercenary' and guess who they'll say? I'll give you a hint, it isn't Starfire.
>> No. 222325
Shame, I'd really like to see the Titans get development like that.
>> No. 222327
That's idiotic. You're saying he makes more sense as a Batman villain because you used the word "Batman" to describe him.
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They managed to fit this in, at least.
>> No. 222329
Slade is more actually "Captain America, but a mercenary".
Even his origin involves a super soldier serum.
>> No. 222330

Because he better fits the tone and content of what you would expect from a Batman comic. Is that explicit enough for you?
>> No. 222333
You're correct that Slade isn't out of place in a Batman comic but he isn't out of place in a Titans comic. No one reads Titans and wonders why they're fighting a highly-skilled assassin when only Batman fights those. Every superhero fights'em. It's so generic he could have been created as a villain for nearly anyone: Green Arrow, Flash, even Superman. He still makes the most sense as a Titans villain because he was created for Titans.

You equate This Character Could Be a Batman Villain to mean This Character Should Be a Batman Villain. People make the same argument about Toyman. It's why Prankster is a Bat-villain now. I'm certain people would argue Captain Cold makes more sense as a Bat-villain if Batman didn't already have a guy with a freeze gun. All it does is remove the variety of villains from other characters.
>> No. 222334
I thought this was about Deathstroke, not Catman or Prometheus or original Deadshot.

The joke is that there are too many Evil Goddamned Batman characters.
>> No. 222335
Don't forget Wrath. Hush. A couple Owlmans.
>> No. 222337
Killer moth
>> No. 222342
Black Mask for "reverse Bruce" more than "reverse Batman".

But no, Deathstroke isn't evil Batman.

He's DC's Taskmaster. His schtick isn't that he's supersmart and resourceful. He happens to be, but that's not his defining trait. His big thing is that he's a Team Wrecker. Wolfman loved doing that with Taskmaster, so when he moved to DC he went "I wanna do that thing where one dude just keeps mopping the floor with an entire team, again. That was awesome!"
>> No. 222345
All this talk of team wrecking anti batmen has me wanting one of these loose adaptations for Morrison's first Jla arc. You can strip out a lot of the "leaving the 90's behind" stuff and still have a good "JLA comes from behind" story.

I know that the pilot of the Justice League cartoon is sort of that, but not really. Though its been years since I've seen it.
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So, I'm catching up with the DC features. I have three movies that i missed before I get into the two new JLA movies that are out now/coming out soon.

Just watched Emerald knights, I don't really know why I've waited on this till now, it came out long before comics took a backseat in my life. It managed a couple of really boring stories before straight dumping the two Alan Moore stories. The Mogo one being a straight adaptation with all the fun sucked out and the Ysmault one being totally different and pretty lame. And unlike Gotham Knight there wasn't the same visual diversity that made that movie such a treat. This was the one I had hopes for since it seemed like mostly original stuff and I loved Gotham Knight, so I'm starting on a disappointed note.
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Dark Knight Returns Part 2.
I saw part one a while ago, but never caught this. I really do love the art direction here, it looks spectacular and exactly like a Dark Knight returns movie should. But that's the problem, aside from a few changes that niggled my "This isn't accurate!!! *push up glasses*" senses, it's JUST Dark Knight returns, and because of that, it does nothing better than the books does, and at a combined length of over two hours, it takes longer than reading the book to boot.

It's a nice novelty, but it's a novelty. Also, the snow effect in the final fight scene is so fucking bad guys, so bad.
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Hrm, giving the past kinda hard thinking they go for this now without planning another bad end.
>> No. 222388
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Presenting the best part of Justice League: War.

Now you don't have to waste your money (don't laugh) or more likely your time watching it.
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>> No. 222411
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Superman Unbound.
The first movie in a trilogy of sorts of Geoff Johns comics, and going into this, the best of the three comics (Which is damning with faint praise if I ever head it), so let's see if it was the best of the three movies.

This movie is a shock after DKR because it pretty much has nothing to do withe the story it's based on. The art direction looks nothing like Gary Frank's style. The personal conflicts, breakdown of events, ending, pretty much everything is different outside of "A semi organic Brainiac attacks with an army of Skeleton robots" I guess it's a good thing they chose the most generic Brainiac story ever to base off of.

Also, there's quite a few shots of violent deaths that do not suit the tone of the story, just like in the Green Lantern movie. But, I guess at this point pointlessly violent death is as much a staple of DC as anything else is. Plus, if it didn't have the rating to get away with that, then it couldn't give us the picture here, which was legit funny.

All in all, it was its own fun movie, John Noble was fantastic as Brainiac though the dialogue was a little corny all around and the same "Superman is caputred and restrained, but then breaks out and beats Brainiac up, but then Brainiac turns out to be fine!" scene happens like, four times throughout the movie.

Better than I had expected. Something to watch if it's on tv if it's on and you're bored kind of deal.

Better than Flashpoint. We'll see if it's better than Doom. But first? That bizarre all ages JLA movie that DC just released with no warning at all.
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JLA Adventures: Trapped in Time.
This thing feels like a two parter of a cartoon that doesn't exist.

It's a fun kids cartoon. The focus is on action, there's comedy but nothing very sharp. It's sweet and short, but lacks the edge or focus of the later Justice League stuff. It doesn't take a lot of chances, but because of that, there's not much bad I can say about it. Action's nice and fluid like I've come to expect from these features.

It's nice to hear some old voices too, like Bader as Batman.

If this was the new JLA cartoon, I wouldn't mind at all. It's going to be so weird watching War (I fucked up last post, I meant War, not Doom) after this
>> No. 222414
Maybe it really is an episode of a cartoon that doesn't exist? It's not unheard of for dropped cartoon pilots to be repackaged as direct to video movies (see the Atlantis the Lost Empire "sequel".)
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Green Lantern takes on Darkseidyoutube thumb

>> No. 222426
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JLA: War.

The plot is stupid, and the character drama is so lame it's a cross-eyed donkey and all the characters are completely one dimensional.

But honestly, the dialogue is really funny. The banter in the comic was the sharpest humor Johns ever did and it's enjoyable here too.

Now, like I said the plot and drama are mega simplistic, and unlike Trapped in Time, it tries to pretend it's serious and for adults and makes itself look like a clown. But still, it's funny! A bunch of super typical characters taking amusing pot shots at each other for an hour. And the animation is spectacular, just fantastic. The style tries to be Lee, but not too hard. Think what they did with the All Star Superman movie, but for Lee instead of Quitley.

I enjoyed this slightly more than I thought I would. I guess when watching an an animated feature in a series where every movie is set pretty much on it's own with it's own history and set of rules it's a lot less offensive than when it's the herald of an initiative that's actively rewriting the serial history that it's regular readers have been enjoying for the past 20 years. And to give credit where credit is due, it's rewritten enough to help its events flow a lot better, though the Darkseid battle drags on forever.

As an aside: Watching five animated features in two days has reminded me just how tired I am of hearing Steve Blum in EVERYTHING. Holy shit man, the only one I think he wasn't in was Superman Unbound, he was for sure in all the others. That's 4/5.
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>> No. 222569
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So with Lobdell's run and this iteration of the New52 Teen Titans ending, I must ask:

How would you have done it, /co/?

Who would have been on YOUR roster?

What would have been your overarching premise?

What villains would you have had them face?

What stories would you have liked for them to be a part of?

What new members would you have added into the group? Surely you could do better than Skitter and Bunker!

What would you have changed (optional) about their backstories?
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Meanwhile, at /co/ Prime...
>> No. 222658

>> How would you have done it, /co/?

Well, I wouldn't have used the DCU as my cum rag to begin with. It's not that Teen Titans was a bad book (which it was) but that it trampled around the DCU with the rage of a rapist's dick. Danny the Street shows up only to die soon after. Artemis shows up only to die a few panels later. Bart Allen is some random evil person?

If it was any other writing, I would think he was trolling; but after reading about Lobdell's sexual harassment problems, I think he just truly has no idea what human beings like or pisses them off.
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>> No. 222697
Nice OP.

Earth 2 Batman is a Thomas Wayne/Hour Man mash-up.
>> No. 222725
Man, that means no Rex or anyone in his legacy. What's even the point of keeping Earth 2 going when it's no longer about the characters related to the Justice Society.
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>Larfleeze's ring is saner and greedier than he is.

This book is just magical.
>> No. 222774
You know what? If the next animated flick DC announces ISN'T The Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special, then I'm not sure I see a point in giving a fuck.

And before you say anything about how it's nowhere near Christmas: I don't care.
>> No. 222776
Pam and Harley road movie or better yet Gotham Sirens road movie. To that matter why not resurrect the team title, Pam and Harley being a thing now and all, just toss one or two more girls into the mix. I just really want something that I look forward to reading not something I dread will continue to be an on and off slog with the occasional good run. I still want a Batwoman Omnibus. Some Delicious stupid coffee table book.
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new costume, awful parts now 30 percent more obnoxious.
>> No. 222943
That seems to just be the normal new 52 costume, but drawn by John Romita junior.

Wait, is JRjr going to be doing a Superman book?
>> No. 222947
Yup, with Geoff.

Gonna be godawful.

“kind of reset Superman and his universe in the New 52,” said Johns.

I can't properly sum up how retarded that sentence is.

>> No. 222950

Johns. Johns. The New 52 is a reset. You're doing a reset within a reset. A reset you originally oversaw, remember?

Fuck me, why does anybody pay this clown?
>> No. 222951
"reset"? Are they fucking kidding? Geez, resets, reboots, retcons or whatever else you want to call them have just become the running gag at DC, haven't they?
I for one think JR Jr.'s Supes is kinda hunky, but that's me. And it's not enough to make me get the book.
>> No. 222955
Sounds like just a normal creator team shift. Actually with this team replacing Lobdell, all three superman titles have strong teams.

If this were say, 2009 I would be super excited for this. As it stands I may give the first issue a shot. Which is more than I usually do for DC. But I still probably won't unless DC begins overhauling its editorial.

But for those willing to read DC in the first place this seems like a fine book to try.
>> No. 222963
Can't say I'm too excited about Johns writing Superman. Morrison's run on Action already drew on the concept of revisiting just what it is which defines Superman. Lobdell has been all about moving from one stupid fight sequence to the next with little interesting or well-scripted plot inbetween. Doesn't matter much if he outright ignores important continuity notes from the past 3 years because the books aren't very well synched. Plus the guy just seems to be spread a little thin.

JRjr, well, I'll wait until I see some more Superman sketches. That Superman isn't great, and man were there some low points in Captain America. But he still has a really distinctive look that I'd like to see applied to Superman's world.
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How is that Connor?
>> No. 223314
It's not, It's an alt Roy Harper.
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