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>>216260 The editorial problems have been happening for a while. Cry for Justice was Eddie Berganza fucking with Robinson the whole run, and Robinson basically negotiating to only Star City to being destroyed (As opposed to every major Superhero City [Centeral, Coast, Opal, etc] aside from Metropolis and Gotham) and is a bad example of what James Robinson can do now. When i referred to Starman, I was referring to that era in the late-eighties to early two-thousands where DC basically let Creators do their thing. If you recall, that's also when we got Hitman, some good Batman stories, Kingdom Come, Young Justice, and the like. Hell, we even got Chronos which, despite poor sales, managed to last about 12 issues without finding an audience (which is a shame, since it was pretty good). We also got a few good Lobo stories, including when he was a part of L.E.G.I.O.N. We also had JLI, and Animal man, and The Invisible, Doom Patrol (Which I was never very keen on, but a lot of people loved it), and Sandman Mystery Theater.
Like there was a solid decade where DC was outdoing Marvel creatively (which kills my Marvel-Fanboy heart to say) by letting artists and writers do their thing, with being able to really cut-loose in Vertigo being an extra incentive, and the worst thing that happened was the start of big wigs deciding they needed to get their fingers in and the beginning of the DC universe becoming homogenized, bland, and boring. Like, I feel like Geoff Johns really exemplifies this attitude. They both tried to return the universe to it's "roots" while also modernizing it by making it edgier and more "mature" (read: OH MAN LOOK AT ALL THAT SEX AND VIOLENCE). Like I think a big example of this sort of thing would be Blackest Night which killed off a majority of legacy characters, a majority of which were non-white, in favor of bringing back the older, whiter, characters. Hell, even before that we can look at Green Lantern: Rebirth, which brought back Hal Jordan as the "GREATEST GREEN LANTERN", absolved him of all wrong doing (IT WAS A YELLOW FEAR PARASITE), as well as re-characterizing other Earth GL's into being something less (Kyle being a preening artist who spent too much time redoing his constructs, John becomes HURR SOLDIER, and Guy... Actually Guy was alright, because I think this series might have done away with that Awful Warrior shit that Guy was stuck with for a long time).
The point is, slowly, most noticeably, I think, since around 2003/4, DC has been moving towards this path of completely bland and unappealing comics.
Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of shitty DC books in the late eighties and nineties, but at least not ALL the books were like that.
I guess we could also blame some books like Miller's Batman stuff, Watchmen, and the like, for this attitude that comics aren't allowed to be fun, but mainly that's higher-ups not getting what people liked about those books in the first place and just imitating certain elements.
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