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211189 No. 211189
Old one's on autosage.

First trailer for Frozen comes out tomorrow and we've got some images here. It's actually looking kinda cheap.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/06/17/frozen-disney/2389171/

Also in other news, D23 has begun their Free Membership tier, which basically amounts to special access to online content, access to their exclusive Disney Store merch, and discounted Expo tickets. Some of this online content includes a full new online version of the Disney A to Z encyclopedia and stuff detailing more stuff they keep digging up in the Disney Archives.

https://d23.com/
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>> No. 211190
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>> No. 211194
I sincerely hope that Frozen bombs. That piece of shit doesn't deserve to thrive after the bastardization that the story went through and how they forced it to be CG to look straight up like Tangled in a shameless attempt to cash in.

Sadly being Disney Princess shit fodder means that this movie will undeservedly make money. Just like how Pixar can shit out a cheapquel or a bad movie idea and just make money because of pure brand fanboyism legion.
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>>211190
>> No. 211212
>>211194
Agreed. Much like how tangled was originally gonna be a moving painting. Disney removing any artistry for cheap pop culture dreg
>> No. 211213
>>211190
Hello Jarjar, it's been a while.
>> No. 211215
>>211212
Wasn't the moving painting idea just not working out?
>> No. 211216
>>211215
Nah the filter effect was apparently too heavy a burden on the equipment they were using at the time at it wasn't coming out as nice as they had hoped when a lot of things were in motion.
>> No. 211223
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At least we'll always have Doc McStuffins
>> No. 211224
And here's the teaser which is basically a copy of every Ice Age teaser trailer ever.

Disney's Frozen Teaser Trailer Sneak Peekyoutube thumb
>> No. 211225
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211225
This was my favorite Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale. I was actually excited to think that Disney could bring this artfully to film but based on everything I've seen that's not going to happen. It's a shame they're running back to their generic old tricks with these sidekicks and totally altering the story/character traits.

I think I'll just stick with this one for now unless it somehow turns out fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39PH16vpyXE
>> No. 211239
Guys can't we just discuss how awesome Lone Ranger looks?
>> No. 211240
>>211239
As in, not at all?
>> No. 211241
>>211239
Looks decent I guess cept Depp looking goofy. Also giving the Silver Bullets a Supernatural reason for existence rather than a High Moral one..ehhh.
>> No. 211243
>>211241
I'm sorry, the bullets have a whatnow?
>> No. 211245
>>211243
Yea its all kinda Silly.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Lone-Ranger-Brings-Action-Packed-Fun-Filled-Footage-CinemaCon-37041.html

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/lone-ranger-exclusive-trailer-why-does-silver-bullets-194331607.html
>> No. 211246
>>211245
>A Wendigo in the middle of the old West.

Oh, Disney's gonna get a lot of angry letters along the lines of "Why you think all Native Americans are the same thing?" over this one.
>> No. 211248
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211248
>I'm willing to give Frozen a chance before writing it off as a bad movie
Screw me, right?
>> No. 211249
Its not like there is a relevant kind of creature for that area..oh wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker
>> No. 211250
>>211248
Yes. Screw you.
>> No. 211251
>>211246
Is that really any worse than, say, unicorns showing up in a celtic setting?
>> No. 211257
>>211246
Maybe it's meant to be an oblique reference to back when Tonto was played by a Mohawk, rather than a white dude?
>> No. 211259
>>211245
I hate to sound like one of those guys but there's no way I'm going to watch this. Dynamite's comic with the villain who used human skin as leather for furniture was the breaking point for me. I just can't take the Lone Ranger as super serious or dark. I mean I grew up on reruns of the old show. Plus the way the guys holding the property acted to Clayton Moore in his later years pisses me off.
>> No. 211281
>>211259
From everything I've read, Disney's version will have a large amount of comedy and over-the-top fun in it. And tbh whether it's faithful to the original or not I'm still going to go see it since I loved Pirates.
>> No. 211323
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>>211251
The unicorn was a very popular mythological creature in the middle ages. The Celts had extensive contact with English people (not always in a friendly way) and did exchange mythology; even if English creatures weren't part of their culture they probably still would have heard about them (especially people living in Scotland and Wales). However, North America is a pretty fucking big place compared to the British Isles, and unlike the Celtic Nations and England, there's a pretty huge expanse of land between northern native cultures with the wendigo myths and the "Old West" cultures. While a lot of Great Plains cultures were nomadic, the wendigo guys had villages set up and were too far to the northwest for Old West people to have many opportunities to hang out with them and share stories about horrific cannibalistic zombies.

People just tend to glob together every Native American culture out of ignorance. They don't know or care about the differences between them. That's pretty offensive imo. Even if mistakenly adding a unicorn to Celtic myth was geographically implausible like the transfer of wendigo myths to the Old West, it's still not the same because at least most people understand that Ireland and England are not the same fucking thing. Plus this is a big budget film we are talking about here, not some 13 year old's first fantasy story, so they SHOULD be doing their research to make sure the mythology they are using works for the setting. Anything else is just laziness or willful ignorance and both are bad.

So no, it's not comparable at all.
>> No. 211325
>>211323
While I'm almost certainly being too generous, they COULD simply have a scene in there establishing that Wendigos are from way up North "but for some raisin they're going Wendigo Wagons West".
>> No. 211352
>>211248
>I'm willing to give Frozen a chance before writing it off as a bad movie
>Screw me, right?

Well when you put it like that, the anger people are showing without even seeing the movie is extremely unreasonable.

So yes. Screw you. Screw you for putting it like that. Maybe Frozen will make for an entertaining viewing experience. Maybe there will be some scenes everyone loves, even the harshest critics. Maybe.

What we know is that The Snow Queen was to have visuals that would have been a far cry from the usual Disney and Hollywood fare... and they've been abandoned for some extremely generic CGI. The Snow Queen's story is much-beloved, would make for an excellent movie (and HAS in the past!), and would be a much-needed breath of fresh air. And it's been gutted and replaced with a safe and formulaic story.

We were on the road to getting a modern masterpiece, only for it to be abandoned in favor of paint-by-numbers movie that looks to have little in common with the original intent. And maybe that movie won't be dreadful in its own right. But looking at what we were originally going to get, being pissed is absolutely the right response.
>> No. 211365
>>211352
You echo the sentiment of the fans of adapted works since the invention of the film adaptation. "If they had taken more risks, it would have been better." An easy thing to say, but talk is cheep.

I honestly had never heard of this story until I read of Disney's plans for the film, so you'll forgive me for having less of a horse in this race. Even "formulaic" stories can be enjoyable.

Really, I had no idea there were so many fairy tale nerds on this board. Weird.
>> No. 211400
If there's anything to judge from the frozen trailer it's fuck the snowman. I thought we learned our lesson after Martin sheen bot in treasure planet
>> No. 211401
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Hans Christian Andersen wrote The Snow Queen because he wanted to inverse and the tired old damsel in distress story. Even though he penned it in 1845, stories where a heroic girl sets out alone on a journey to rescue a boy are still a rarity. This story was important to me personally as a kid for that reason.

Frozen shits on Andersen's vision by changing the plot for "girl travels north and helps/is helped by people along the way in order to save the boy she loves" to "girl gets escorted by manly guy and two comedy relief guys to the north to beat up her sister." It is actually really offensive to me that they did this, it's not just a matter of changing stuff like Disney usually does with the fairy tales they adapt.

It's not like Little Mermaid or Hunchback of Notre Dame where they changed their endings to happy ones. It's not like Aladdin where they simplified the plot but kept the major events and characters. It's not even like Tangled, which they actually had to change significant portions of because the actual Rapunzel story is fucking brutal all the way through. The changes they did to The Snow Queen completely changes the plot and I have a sinking feeling they did it because they don't think moviegoers would want to watch a film about a female hero on her own. They thought she Needed male help and a love interest to be by her side, so the purpose couldn't be to rescue her defenseless love interest from a witch. But god, they didn't even keep the male damsel part at all, which was the fucking point of the original story. It wasn't even a kidnapped younger brother, it is just nothing. They wrote it out completely. Awful.

Fuck Frozen.
>> No. 211404
>>211365
While you are correct in saying that Hollywood has a reputation for hollow adaptations, I do not think you are fully appreciating the unique features of this project.

The Snow Queen project has been in development by Disney, off-and-on, since the 90s at least, with more halting attempts going back to the very earliest days. The idea of doing something with The Snow Queen originated with Marc Davis, one of the original Nine Old Men that basically founded Disney, who produced gorgeous art for creating a Snow Queen ride at Disneyland. Marc is, after Disney himself, probably the most influential of the Nine Old Men. Aside from designing many of the most iconic old Disney movie characters, he dreamed up many of their most famous attractions. Pirates? Splash Mountain? Haunted Mansion? That's him. And his art for the Snow Queen had been shown often on tours, along with art for the halting attempts to make a Snow Queen movie. So Disney finally adapting the story has turned into something of a Holy Grail for animation fans. Moreover, past production art has leaned toward embracing the cultural differences of the region, whereas the latest shift has been to instead go with some shockingly generic designs. The desire to bring the unique flavor of a different culture to the screen has been excised.

Moreover, the story itself is unique in fairytales. To be blunt, you will find no more positive fairy tale for portrayal of female characters. Period. They do not exist. No, not even Mulan. In The Snow Queen, The hero is female, the villain is female, all the significant supporting characters are female, with the exception being the one main male character playing the role typically reserved for damsel in distress. And it's stood the test of time, still considered to be one of Anderson's finest stories if not THE finest one. This has been abandoned in favor of giving the female protagonist a male hero to accompany her on her journey, along with masculine "funny animal" companions.

Yes, Hollywood has a tendency to adapt things poorly, but the circumstances here are unique. Compared to most adaptations, expectations were higher, the wait was longer, the shift in animation style more jarring, the story more beloved and widely-known, and the alterations made to the plot are far far far more telling about our society. In short this is a project that's been kicked around in one form or another since the earliest days of animated movies, and the story would have been extremely different from the standard Hollywood experience.

The decision to rush a new version into production after all this time, that bastardizes the source material on such a fundamental level, is far more painful than your standard cowardly Hollywood fuckup.
>> No. 211405
>>211401
>Frozen shits on Andersen's vision by changing the plot for "girl travels north and helps/is helped by people along the way in order to save the boy she loves" to "girl gets escorted by manly guy and two comedy relief guys to the north to beat up her sister." It is actually really offensive to me that they did this, it's not just a matter of changing stuff like Disney usually does with the fairy tales they adapt.

Agreed. I'd go so far as to say this is the biggest "fuck you" Disney has given an entire chunk of the population since the genuinely terrible portrayal of black people (and white women for that matter) in Song of the South.
>> No. 211410
>>211405
Song of the South was a genuinely terrible portrayal of humanity in general.
>> No. 211413
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>>211410
"Ginny's dress is dirty and my daddy didn't come visit like he said he would and my mom dresses me like a homosexual!"

"You do realize I was a slave, right kid? I mean, I was fucking whipped, and you're bitching at me that your clothing has frills and your sister's dress is muddy?"

"My daughter's dress is muddy? Begone with you, may you never appear here again, this is clearly all your faul... oh it's not? Whoops I almost ruined that black man's life! Well, I'm a stupid mother who will get no comeuppance for acting like a complete self-absorbed selfish shit throughout the entire movie!"

"Ha ha ha, you sure are!"
>> No. 211462
>>211413
>get no comeuppance
Watching your son get f'ed up by a bull dont count?
>> No. 211466
>>211462
Well, considering the son got the worst of it, and that the bull probably didn't have "make this lady pay for being a racist bitch" in mind when it decided to do that... she got off pretty scot-free.
>> No. 211474
>>211470
I'm...not sure how he did it, but Misogyny Troll has somehow managed to post a reactionary rant against Song of the fucking South.
>> No. 211520
>>211413
This can't possibly be that bad.
They're all smiling. It looks like a happy movie to watch with kids.
>> No. 211521
>>211520
It honestly isn't. Just a little uncomfortable for a contemporary audience that wants to bury that bitter time in history.
>> No. 211522
>>211521
>It honestly isn't

It genuinely is. The animated segments are too short to redeem it, and even cutting out the insulting depiction of race relations in reconstruction South, and the magic negro shit ("He cured Johnny with his story!") it's still cringeworthy. The story itself is just awful, most of the cast are horrible actors and horrible people... the only likable guy is Remus, who just fucking stands there and lets people treat him like shit. Painful to watch.
>> No. 211524
>>211521
It was comfortable for white people to watch back in the day, and it's uncomfortable for white people now. But it has always been uncomfortable for people who aren't white.
>> No. 211525
>>211522
>>211524
The animation/live-action integration is really fluid, and I wish they could use Br'er Bear and so on by themselves without associating with the film.
>> No. 211527
>>211522
>the only likable guy is Remus, who just fucking stands there and lets people treat him like shit
Because he was in a position to be so confident and bold right?
>> No. 211531
>>211524
>It was comfortable for white people to watch back in the day

Not ones with taste. The acting and plot was always dire. Wah wah I'm a spoiled rich kid whose daddy has to work for a few weeks and daddy's never been away from me for five minutes before. Wah.

Give me a fucking break. Leave it to Beaver had better plots. It was a shit story with ear-grindingly bad dialog and horrible acting from most of the cast, and I'm tired of apologists going "well it wasn't THAT racist..." as if that somehow makes the movie any less of a steaming turd.

Animation was 'salright though, no argument from me there.
>> No. 211532
>>211531
Okay. I understand.
>> No. 211533
>>211525
They do, just not a lot.
>> No. 211647
Yeah Disney already lost me with Frozen I'm sorry but why would you focus on the comedy sidekick in the teaser trailer? I mean aren't trailers supposed to get people hyped up for a movie?
>> No. 211648
>>211647
This. When Monsters Inc had its teaser made, they showed Mike and Sully and a sample of what their relationship is like for the final movie and it worked just fine. This was just stupid.
>> No. 211649
>>211648
Actually it wasn't a lot like that in the movie, as far as I remember.

Too bad that scene didn't make it into the movie though, I had a good laugh at it.
>> No. 211650
>>211649
Monsters Inc. Trailer (HD)youtube thumb

Admittedly Mike going "Don't make me like you Sully!" was awkward and exaggerated, its still more similar and grounded to the final product compared to Frozen's crap.
>> No. 211655
>>211650
OOPS!

My bad, actually. I had read before as if you were talking about the Monsters University teaser. Actually, I really liked this trailer you linked now.
>> No. 211656
>>211650
Funny how this trailer has Mike as the class clown type and Sully is the studious one, given MU
>> No. 211661
>>211656
That's what ruined MU for me. Their chemistry was completely fucked up.
>> No. 211662
>>211661
It kinda had to be.
>> No. 211671
I kinda liked the original idea I heard for Monster's Inc. 2 better, even though I don't know if it was a rejected idea for the sequel, or if it was just a fan idea. It involved something like Sulley and Mike running into a grown-up Boo, who actually remembered them.

I remember seeing fanart of Andy and Boo going off to college and being animators, sorta implying the movies were being told by them, and it hit my soft spot.
>> No. 211673
>>211671

That wasn't a sequel idea, that was the original ending.

When Sully opened the door to Boo room, A young woman's voice was going to say "Kitty."
>> No. 211676
I understand why they'd change it. Relative timeline and all.
>> No. 211699
http://video.disney.com/watch/disneychannel-no-service-4df889ed3d82b43c9c01a272?cmp=Embed|vid|ExtEmbedRedir||||||||||
wut?
>> No. 211708
>>211671
>>211673
No, the sequel idea by Circle 7 was Mike and Sulley planning to visit Boo for her birthday only to discover that she moved, leading them to try and figure out where she went.
>> No. 211847
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And just like Tangled they took the most amazing concept art and reduced it too watered down diarrhea.
>> No. 211852
>>211699
I really like the art direction.
>> No. 211853
>>211847
There shouldn't even be a snowman in the first place.
>> No. 211855
>>211853
Fair enough but a not bland as shit version might have softened the blow.
>> No. 211863
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http://mickey.disney.com/mickey/video

These new Mickey shorts make me feel good.
>> No. 211869
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>>211863
Oh my God thank you.
>> No. 211875
>>211863
I hate you so much Disney Latino.
(the videos aren't available for me).
>> No. 211879
>>211875
Even with Media Hint?
>> No. 211901
>>211875
Try their YouTube channel, maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/user/DisneyShorts
>> No. 211903
>>211901
Brasil here. They didn't enable it to play in my country.
>> No. 211909
>>211903
>>211875

I don't see the point of keeping up such charades when globalization is relatively just around the corner.
>> No. 211915
>>211909
Because as of right now it's illegal for them to distribute it in your territory. Distribution rights, when bought, are only bought for a particular region, and the home company just doesn't distribute outside of its primary territory as a rule because doing so would make the property worth less when trying to sell distribution rights to a local company for localization. Even multinational corporations tend to have different divisions for each region which have exclusive control over distribution in their area because otherwise local workers in that region don't get any money for the money being spent, and the governments would enact higher tariffs.

Region-locking isn't a charade, and it's not something they do just to irritate you, it's a necessity for doing multinational business in the year 2013.
>> No. 211921
They don't even allow it to be played in Canada.
>> No. 211922
>>211915
And its an outdated model that's getting in the way. Especially considering the vague territory of online property.
>> No. 211932
>>211901
Blocked as well.
Thanks anyways.

>>211922
Pretty much.
>> No. 211995
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Haven't tested these links. But, here you go.

Croissant de Triomphe:
http://www.4shared.com/video/7m1dI5HH/Mickey_Mouse_in_Croissant_de_T.html
No Service:
http://www.4shared.com/video/cJIJpU8S/Mickey_Mouse_in_No_Service720p.html
Yodelberg:
http://www.4shared.com/video/bpXJ6XSN/Mickey_Mouse_in_Yodelberg720p.html

Don't thank me, thank some anonymous /co/mrade. Non-merrica bros need the Mouse too!
>> No. 212014
>>211995
Hm, might check it out. I wouldn't normally be interested in this sort of thing, but it's reminding me of a really earwormy music video:
Daddy's Little Doll - Animated…youtube thumb
>> No. 212019
>>211995
Thanks for linking anyway. Was having trouble finding a way to watch it.
>> No. 212051
>>211995
Thanks!
I'll test those links when I get at home.
>> No. 212192
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I love Disney, but when I show non-Disney cartoons to people I know, they inevitably ask if that's the new Disney/Pixar film.

Everything vaguely "goth" is "a Tim Burton film".

All anime is Pokémon, Dragonball Z, or Sailor Moon.

I need to explain them a thing.
>> No. 212205
>>212192
I remember back in'99 I was at the movies with a girl, she saw the new Pokemon movie's poster, and I don't remember exactly what she said but suffice to say she thought that Pokemon was done by Disney.
>> No. 212206
>>212205
To be fair, the message of that one was kinda Disney. But that's it. I think they have more in common with Miyazaki than anything.

...Although I have seen some great Disneyesque Pokemon fanarts.
>> No. 212221
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>>212192
Whoa there anon settle down
Why don't you play the nintendo and relax a bit
>> No. 212230
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>>212192
I wonder if rival tissue companies ever get pissed off about everyone calling their product "Kleenex".
>> No. 212231
>>212206
No dude, it was pure "if it's an animated movie, it must be Disney" thinking.
>> No. 212252
>>212221
I'm very mildly grumpy at the most. Not even mad.

>>212230
Probably. I remember my grandmother called every refrigerator a "Frigidaire" her entire life.

>>212231
Gah. I dunno how to explain to people that a lot of different people animate.
>> No. 212357
I don't like the whole SECRET POLITICAL MESSAGE bullshit usually, but Monster's Inc. does make a good analogy to the oil vs. alternative energy debate.
>> No. 212468
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Got a newsdump here.

We got the first footage of Saving Mr Banks, the movie about how Walt Disney (played by Tom Hanks) tried to convince PL Travers to let him make Mary Poppins, on Entertainment Tonight around the 6:30 mark.

http://www.etonline.com/full_episode/111836_Daily_Full_Episode/index.html

The lineup for Disney Feature Animation post-Big Hero 6 has been announced as well.

http://www.therotoscopers.com/2013/07/10/new-disney-animation-films-announced-zootopia-giants-moana-more/

>Zootopia (March 4, 2016)
>After Big Hero 6 is released, WDAS will take a year off before releasing two films in 2016. The first is currently called Zootopia, which will be directed by one of Tangled‘s co-directors Byron Howard. This film will star Jason Bateman (who previously been penned to voicing a character in this film). Unfortunately, that’s about all we know about Zootopia…for now.

>Giants (November 23, 2016)
>Next comes Giants, which will be directed by the other Tangled co-director Nathan Greno. This film will be a new twist and take on fairy tales. It’s good to see that Disney will continue its fairy tale film legacy after Frozen. Fairy tales are so key to the company, its legacy, parks and future, it makes sense that it will continue producing films here and then in this direction. It makes sense that Giants possibly could be The Name Game, which was a Disney film reportedly based on the Rumpelstiltskin.

>Moana (March 9, 2018)
>Next comes the return of the famous Disney directing duo Ron Celements and John Musker with Moana. This film is a Polynesian story that follows island inhabitants and tiki idols “made famous the world over.” This very much gives an Enchanted Tiki Room vibe and could be a potential tie-in to that ride and the parks. The style of this film’s animation is unknown, but it will either be their first CGI film or a CGI/2D hybird much like the short Paperman.

>Untitled Dean Wellin’s Animated Feature (November 21, 2018)
>Dean Wellin (writer on Tangled and animator on Princess and the Frog) will tackle the last film of the bunch which is a “teenage space race” that has a story very unusual for Disney Animation. Apparently, much like Big Hero 6, this film will help to change and mold the public’s perception about what to except from the Mouse House.
>> No. 212470
>>212468
....a lot of those just look horrible. Like so bad in concept that not even CG animation can help them make the Big Bucks. The upcoming one Big Hero 6 being too obscure to gain as much traction. Even something like Watchmen at least had an obsessed cult following.
>> No. 212473
>>212470
Big Hero 6 is so obscure that it's obscurity is irrelevant. They're not going to be discerned from new characters like The Incredibles.
>> No. 212476
>>212468
And the actual trailer for Saving Mr Banks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kYmrjongg
>> No. 212546
>>212468
>Giants (November 23, 2016)
>Next comes Giants, which will be directed by the other Tangled co-director Nathan Greno. This film will be a new twist and take on fairy tales. It’s good to see that Disney will continue its fairy tale film legacy after Frozen. Fairy tales are so key to the company, its legacy, parks and future, it makes sense that it will continue producing films here and then in this direction. It makes sense that Giants possibly could be The Name Game, which was a Disney film reportedly based on the Rumpelstiltskin.
>new twist and take on fairy tales
>Its tangled yet again, complete with single word title vaguely referencing a theme.
oh yippee.
>> No. 212548
>>212468
>Complimenting Frozen's approach to fairy tails

Dammit, I may have cracked a molar.
>> No. 213223
Wander Over Yonder - Battle For Power - Promoyoutube thumb
Wander Over Yonder - Best Friend - Promoyoutube thumb

Wander over Yonder promos. I'm interested though wish they were longer so I could get a better feel.
>> No. 213232
Another new Mickey short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BeQrjmaA4
>> No. 213236
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>>213232
Aaaaand some links for non'merrica brethren.

New York weenie:
http://www.4shared.com/video/D7qGkNA7/Mickey_Mouse_in_New_York_Weeni.html

Tokyo Go
http://www.4shared.com/video/JU0LtfDD/Mickey_Mouse_in_Tokyo_Go720p.html

Stayin' Cool
http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/28774984/file.html

If a link ain't working, say something and I'll keep my eyes open fo some mo links.
>> No. 213238
>>213236
Also;

Stayin' cool (again)
http://www.4shared.com/video/_ZJGhln6/Mickey_Mouse_in_Stayin_Cool720.html

For those who want consistency.
>> No. 213246
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>>213232
This series is the best thing they've done with Mickey in a while.
>> No. 213436
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>The Imagination pavilion at Epcot will cease operations on January 2nd, 2014. The Captain EO show will not reopen, while the ride and retail location are rumored to remain closed for one year for renovations. There is no official statement from Disney on the scale of work at this time.

[hope intensifies]
>> No. 213452
>>213436
What are you hoping for?
>> No. 213516
>>213452
It's been a consistent rumor/hope for about ten years now that they'd bring the pavilion back to something closer to the original rather then the crappy Imagination Institute bullshit they have presently.

Of course, there's rumors that they might slap Phineas and Ferb in there for some raisin, but I'm keeping cautious optimism because I don't think Disney's dumb enough to remove Figment entirely.
>> No. 213517
>>213516
>I don't think they'd shit on something awesome and old just to pander to something newer

I direct your attention to the OP.
>> No. 213532
>>213517
I dunno, the backlash from when they fucked up the ride in the first place is one of the few times Disney actually caved in to fan demand. The way they band-aided the situation was kinda clumsy, but they learned that Figment was too popular and marketable to mess with.
>> No. 213550
Say that I wanted to go to Disneyworld and spend a week there to see what I can.

When would you recommend that I go, how much money do you think I'll need to put away for it, and just any other tips about it would be nice...
>> No. 213700
The ARG Disney's put together to promote Brad Bird's Tomorrowland is getting interdasting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwyq0mLoW3k
>> No. 213727
Star Wars convention talking about Rebels series. Will have a strong McQuarrie inspired style.
>> No. 213788
Someone running a story time of the Frozen kids book on /co/ anyone care for a solider proofed repost?
>> No. 213887
>>211847
are people still bitching about this?

of course he looks horrible. That's a /major plot point/. Did you read the summary of his character?
>> No. 213888
>>213887

I think Tiki means that the snowman has been made kinda ugly cute or goofy, rather than outright ugly. (In addition to all the other changes, too.)
>> No. 213889
>>213887
He's not supposed to exist at all.
>> No. 213890
Susie the car...really cute ca…youtube thumb

My god, right in the feels and got me all teared up. Anyone else?
>> No. 213990
>>213888
So was the "Ice Queen" for lack of a better term more an antagonist originally? Because according to the kids book stuff she was just accident prone in giving her sister brain freeze and almost harming her when her sister was being crazy flighty wanting to marry a man she'd only known for a couple of days. At which point she moved up into the mountains to make her ice castle and be away from everyone so she couldn't hurt them. And the snowman is her creation from childhood.
>> No. 213992
Wander Over Yonder Title Seque…youtube thumb

I'm digging it.
>> No. 214085
>>213990
You mean in the original story or in the various Disney versions?
>> No. 214194
>>214085

the earlier Disney versions I guess going by that artwork.
>> No. 214350
http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-animated-ipad-64847/

Holy crap!
>> No. 214379
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Pictures of D23 Expo are popping up from bloggers attending previews.

A motherfucking Rebuilt Hatbox Ghost showed up at the Imagineering pavilion, though the context isn't quite known yet.
>> No. 214380
>>214379
Del Toro's supposed Haunted Mansion movie?

I'm really curious to see it, to the point where I could honestly wait a few years for Pacific Rim 2.
>> No. 214381
>>214380
Look at that screen at his feet, presumably for animation programming. This guy's probably going back into the ride soon. Del Taco's movie is still in pre-production and apparently he's already accomplished what was probably his goal with the film project in the first place of getting Disney to put a new Hattie back into the ride.
>> No. 214382
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Silhouettes of the Big Hero 6 team from a postcard
>> No. 214383
>>214382
Hmm. So definitely no Silver Samurai or Sunfire there, then.
>> No. 214396
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Marvel is adapting the rejected Museum of the Weird concept for the Haunted Mansion into a comic series.
>> No. 214402
Casts for some of the new Pixar movies have been announced

>The Good Dinosaur
>Lucas Neff - Arlo (the main character, a sauropod)
>John Lithgow - Arlo's dad
>Frances McDormand - Arlo's mom
>Bill Hader & Neil Patrick Harris - Arlo's brothers
>Judy Greer - Arlo's sister

Inside Out
>Lewis Black - Anger
>Mindy Kaling - Disgust
>Bill Hader - Fear
>Amy Poehler - Joy
>Phyllis Smith - Sadness

Finding Dory
>Diane Keaton - Jenny, Dory's mom
>Eugene Levy - Charlie, Dory's dad
>Ty Burrell - Bailey, a beluga whale

And at the DisneyToon section of the panel, they revealed Tinker Bell and the Pirate Fairy is an origin story for Captain Hook with Tom Hiddleston playing the part of Hook as a young cabin boy named James.
>> No. 214403
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>>214402
Oh and Christina Hendricks is the titular Pirate Fairy Zarina.
>> No. 214406
>“2016 film from Walt Disney Animation Studios: Zootopia. Original film. “Zootopia” will be directed by Tangled’s Byron Howard. Written by Jared Bush. Zootopia is a buddy action comedy in animal world where humans never existed. Bambi, Jungle Book, Dumbo, Lion King, Robin Hood - all inspiration for Zootopia. Animals in a modern world designed by animals in Zootopia. Unlike anything before in Disney history. Imagineer Joe Rohde was consulted for Zootopia. And Bob Iger nearly got eaten by a lion. Yeah.”

>“Zootopia locations: Tundra Town, Sahara Square, Rain Forest, Wild Times, Anamalia, The Canals, and The Burrows.”
>> No. 214411
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Inside Out's cast
>> No. 214412
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>> No. 214416
>>214411
Why is Meat Boy wearing a suit?
>> No. 214417
>>214416
He's now a Hard Broiled Detective
>> No. 214419
>>214411
I really love Angers design for some reason. Shame he's probably just going to be a butt-end comic relief character.
>> No. 214421
>>214419
I've always wanted someone at Pixar to take the models of the characters voiced by comedians and animate them doing their standup.

Remy the Rat doing Patton Oswalt's bit about KFC's Famous Bowls and Uncle Touchy's Naked Puzzle Basement. Or Anger going on about Yom Kippur and the Gay Banditos.

The Genie from Aladdin was pretty much Robin Williams doing standup. That'd probably work the easiest.
>> No. 214425
>>214416
>>214417
Shit, I can't unsee it either. Someone send this to Edward McMillen.

>>214406
Isn't Zootopia already a book? I remember the illustrations being gorgeous and somewhat surreal.

>>214402
Diane Keaton is good. Tom Hiddleston...eh. I like him as an actor, I hate Loki's fangirls and how he eats up their attention.
>> No. 214427
>>214425
Super Meatboy as McPatty Hard Broiled Detective, make it a beat'em up.
>> No. 214434
>>214421
Pretty sure they did that for testing out the models. Also fun fact about Patton and Ratatouille: Brad Bird cast him after hearing the Black Angus bit.
>> No. 214494
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So how long till Disney gets freaked and this gets shredded into something super kiddie.
>> No. 214495
>>214494
Let me dream of what might be for now.
>> No. 214496
>>214494
They'll bail on it just like with American Dog by Chris Sanders. Frankly Disney already got their asses eternally handed to them in terms of animated concepts with anthros. Sly Cooper already is king of that.
>> No. 214497
>Sly Cooper already is king of that.
Well...its certainly not bad...
>> No. 214503
>>214496
Go to bed, Twister.
>> No. 214504
>>214503
Oh come on, that doesn't even sound like me!
>> No. 214506
>>214504
Nobody but you thinks Sly Cooper is king of animated anthros. Nobody. But. You.
>> No. 214508
>>214496
Yes, I quite agree.
Blacksad has DEFINITELY proven itself on a worldwide scale.
Thanks for mentioning it for me.
>> No. 214515
i thought it was referring to the fact that it sounds like a clone of Sly Cooper's basic concept

>predator animal and prey animal
>they are Cop and Robber
>they inevitably fall in true love over the course of a couple hours chasing eachother because relationships work that way
>> No. 214518
>>214506
You. Replied. To. The. Wrong. Post. Dumb. Ass.
>> No. 214519
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>>214518
No I didn't.
>> No. 214520
>>214519
Man why don't you post as Pulitz anymore, Pulitz?
>> No. 214521
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>>214518
i was just about to delete this picture, too
>> No. 214523
>>214434
If they release Ratatouille on DVD they need to have those testing videos released.

Remy doing the KFC stuff with visual cues played by the other cast would just be awesome.
Chef Gusteau playing the KFC billionaire, all the side characters being the Megaleg ad staff, just have a whole shot playing with all the characters dressed up for each crazy scene.

Or his brother doing the 'God of Slobiness' bit.

I really like Patton Oswalt standup.
>> No. 214531
>>214508
Blacksad is a comic, not a piece of animation though.
>> No. 214540
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214540
Airs on Disney XD towards the end of the month. They've got a good fall lineup forming.
>> No. 214546
>>214540
Raimundo has never looked so sassy.
>> No. 214547
>>214523
Ratatouille's been on DVD and Blu-Ray for years. No stand-up based footage though.
>> No. 214549
>>214520
Because it's a dumb name.
>> No. 214555
>>214540
this is the version with the uglytastic cg fights yes?
>> No. 214556
>>214555
yea the CGI showdown thing. Thankfully those are usually short and in the last half of the episodes.
>> No. 214558
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>>214396
Cleaner version of the teaser image

Old Disneyland TV show footage featuring Museum of the Weird concepts including the coffin clock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NgsA3v56gGg&t=97
>> No. 214559
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214559
http://www.slashfilm.com/tomorrowland-box-opened/

Here's a breakdown of the contents of the 1952 "mystery box" behind Brad Bird's Tomorrowland movie and hints at the alternate history that Disney is creating for the film.
>> No. 214562
>>214559

>“Medallion City,” a model community for the electric age.

Oh Walt, one of those many other men with those many other Lighthouses.

Rapture should have had a mascot.
>> No. 214583
>>214562
>Bioshock
>Theoretical Epcot edition.
I might.
>> No. 214585
>>214583
From what we hear in Bioshock 2 audio logs it almost was until Ryan went the other way and twisted it into an "educational" amusement about the evils of the state and whatnot.

Would love Infinite DLC where they end up though a doorway and creep about a back set of some amusements only to be greeted by a "Walt" at the end.
>> No. 214677
http://animatedviews.com/2013/mike-disa-and-the-seven-dwarfs-how-the-snow-white-prequel-became-a-dopey-movie/

Now that would have been some epic LOTR type shit.
>> No. 214685
>>214496
>>214506
Related: Do you guys consider video games to be animation?
>> No. 214686
>>214685
Videogames HAVE animation.
>> No. 214688
>>214677
Fuck, that sounds awesome. Also, I find it interesting that it had a "Magic Mirror is the Queen's father" thing seeing as Disney used that for "Fairest of All", a novelization that takes a Wicked-style look at the Queen's background
>> No. 214689
>>214685
Videogames have animation even if its CG or 3D models. In the case of Sly Cooper it has that 2D comic book style for a lot of segments. Hell speaking of videogames and animation with anthros, Ratchet and Clank will be getting a theatrical movie in 2015. So things are turning interesting.

If that movie succeeds at the box office, then not only will it be the first videogame movie done right in the history of ever (its actually made by the original writers of the games), but also it would add another bit of healthy competition studios like the Disney and Dreamworks.
>> No. 214709
>>214686
>>214689
I know, but what I think what I'm trying to ask here is if there's really no difference between cartoons and video games, other than that one's interactive, and one isn't. I did a research project on how video games were made for a tech class last semester, and I found a lot of overlap. Not just stylistically, obviously, but also in terms of technique.
>> No. 214799
>>214677
Really surprised this didn't sound bad at all. Gives me a Bone by Jeff Smith vibe before it became The Traumatic Dopey Movie.
>> No. 214882
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New new mickey shorts!
http://www.youtube.com/user/DisneyShorts/videos?shelf_index=0&view=0&sort=dd
for youtube, if you forgot

And links! For those who can't watch the y-tube.

Bad Ear Day:
http://www.4shared.com/video/2AaVeDFy/Mickey_Mouse_in_Bad_Ear_Day720.html

Gasp!:
http://www.4shared.com/video/c28-BdX-/Mickey_Mouse_in_Gasp720p.html

Panda-monium:
http://www.4shared.com/video/S15KDKmp/Mickey_Mouse_in_Panda-monium72.html
>> No. 214890
>>214882
Disney Australia's got another new short called Ghoul Friend

http://disney.com.au/mickey/
>> No. 214895
T is for Telephonophobia - Figaro Phoyoutube thumb

they got some crazy shorts
>> No. 214918
HA HA, this is great, Hater is the best worst.

The Picnicyoutube thumb
>> No. 214923
>>214918
Lord Hater is my spirit villain.
>> No. 214925
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>>214890
Awesome. Now I will check up on that for new episodes.

But there was one thing bothering me while I was watching it the whole time: Are these airing in China? And if they are, how would this episode be edited to be safe for Chinese consumption? Or would Disney just not 'air' this ep?
>> No. 214948
>>214925
Probably not air it.
And my GOD do I love this series. It's like it's modernizing the classic shorts while still retaining the heart of what made them interesting in the first place. Or something. Whatever. It's great.
>> No. 215151
http://anoia.tumblr.com/post/58841429153/keaneart-glen-keane-talks-beast-prince-adam

I need to draw Human!Beast with a beard now...
>> No. 215164
>>215151
He looks like a nice guy, Mr Keane.
>> No. 215166
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/08/21/exclusive-lots-of-details-of-disneys-unannounced-animated-movie-giants/

Giants is apparently just Jack and the Beanstalk again.
>> No. 215478
Those Disney Movie Club Talespin and Gargoyles sets are on the Disney Store site now.
>> No. 216730
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Pixar-Pushes-Good-Dinosaur-Leaving-2014-Completely-Pixar-Free-39476.htm

Well crap no Pixar films for next year. First year without since 2005l
>> No. 217386
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That Museum of the Weird project by Marvel teased at D23 has been revealed as "Seekers of the Weird", and is set to be the first in a new imprint called "Disney Kingdoms" that'll be focused on telling stories based on park attractions.

First issue (out of five) comes out in January.
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Also, Disney has announced its first Marvel ride with the Iron Man Experience coming to Hong Kong Disneyland. Basically looks like Star Tours: Marvel Edition.
>> No. 217394
>>216730
So I guess the animation oscar automatically goes to whatever Dreamworks is doing then.
>> No. 217395
>>217394
course Laika might actually get a chance but I doubt it.
>> No. 217518
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217518
So what are the odds Disney actually does something with Oswald soon? He supposedly had a cameo in one of the recent Mickey Mouse shorts but it turned out not to be him.
>>217386
>>214558
>>214396
I am going to read the ever living hell out of this. I picked up a book detailing the history and art of the Haunted Mansion last week when I was at Disney World, and Rolly Crump's concepts for the Museum of the Weird made me disappointed that the project never really came to fruition. Crump's artwork is just so damn strange an wonderful, and I love it. Hopefully this creepy bastard is in there somewhere.
>> No. 217528
>>217518
> So what are the odds Disney actually does something with Oswald soon?
Epic Micky 2 killed the company they had making it so Disney might be backing away from him for a while.

Misappropriating causation. Blaming Oswald as a poor draw instead of the lackluster presentation, the clunky gameplay and progression, and terrible 90's style camera.
>> No. 217532
Mickey Mouse in Dog Showyoutube thumb
Mickey Mouse in Ghoul Friendyoutube thumb

Where do they keep the people that make these?
>> No. 217536
Just rewatched The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I still can't believe it's an actual Disney film that actually got made. The whole thing screams "Cool concept that regrettably didn't get made because not marketable/stupid executives", except for the fact that it actually did get made.
>> No. 217540
>>217536
It still bastardized the original story and characters. Just like how the upcoming Frozen is an abomination to the Ice Queen story.
>> No. 217544
>>217540
The original versions of both still exist. There is no reason to act as though the fact that it's wildly divergent from the source material means it can't be entertaining to watch. Look at Blade Runner.
>> No. 217547
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>>217544
I have no problem with the Disney Hunchback. There was never EVER a hope of there being a proper animated adaptation for English-speaking Audiences.

Blade Runner was pretty different from Electric Sheep, but Sheep wasn't exactly unique, nor was the genre of Sci-Fi as limited as the genre of "traditional fairy tales". Things get added to the former more than the latter. And Dick himself gushed about the final script and the effects that he saw. It wasn't sticking that closely to his story, but it did a fantastic job with some of the ideas and messages he wanted to get out there.

But Frozen? Frozen deserves nothing but scorn, because regardless of how good it might be - and it might be, I don't know, I suspect it'll be as watchable-yet-unremarkable as hotel Transylvania - it's preventing us from getting an adaptation of one of the most unique things to ever fall under the label "Fairy tale" (which is the genre most chosen by Disney). Find me another classic tale where the male and female characters switch "rescuer and rescuee" roles. Just doesn't exist. We can try to force classic tales into that mold, but it's guaranteed to be awkward every time. And adding to the irritation, the Snow Queen has a production History at Disney with a capital H. It's one of those projects the company has thought about doing for a loooong time, kicking around different versions, like they have with Chanticleer and Don Quixote. Disney's Chicken Little was a pretty damn bad movie in its own right (with a kinda horrifying ending in a few ways), but I think it would be fair to hate it a lot more if we were told we were getting that instead of ever getting a Chanticleer movie. Which is what happened here with the Snow Queen and Frozen.

tldr Fuck Frozen, even if it does end up being kinda watchable in its own right.
>> No. 217548
>>217547
>it's preventing us from getting an adaptation of one of the most unique things to ever fall under the label "Fairy tale" (which is the genre most chosen by Disney)
Except that the Snow Queen is in the Public Domain, and the Disney movie isn't even called The Snow Queen anymore--only insiders and/or enthusiasts are even aware that it's based on the Snow Queen, and those are exactly the people who will know it's an imperfect adaptation in the first place.

As a matter of fact, another animation adaptation of the Snow Queen already came out this month.
>> No. 217549
>>217547
> Find me another classic tale where the male and female characters switch "rescuer and rescuee" roles. Just doesn't exist.

Oh yes because switching gender roles is so unique and inspiring.
>> No. 217550
>>217547
Tam Lin.

I've actually been wanting Disney to do an adaptation of Tam Lin for a while now. Though I'd probably be happier with an adaptation of The Wee Free Men, which would be much the same thing only funnier.
>> No. 217551
>>217548
>Public Domain
How many high quality animated adaptations did we get for Beauty and the Beast and Little Mermaid after Disney's? Public domain ensures someone will do something but that's about it. In terms of getting something of quality, the odds are damn low. "The Snow Queen" is a unique enough character that even showing up in a bastardized form, the odds are low that any really competent animation company will tackle the story. And really, this was a project Disney's been tossing about for long enough that I wanted to see their take on it. It should've been playing to their strengths.

>There's a version out now
And of the 6 reviews I've seen, all 6 were very negative. It's just not a good movie. Poor CGI animation, a muddled script, bad dubbing into English (it's Russian originally). It might not have been direct to video, but neither was Alpha and Omega.

>>217549
>Oh yes because switching gender roles is so unique and inspiring.

A reversal that makes both villain and heroic protagonist women? And makes the male protagonist an individual who just gets rescued, taking no active role in his rescue? Rare in general and extremely rare in the body of stories that Disney draws most of its inspiration from.

Out of Fables and Fairy tales I suppose Tam Lin does come the closest that I can think of (and it's been modernized in very fun ways), but... seriously? Your average telling has the female protagonist getting herself mysteriously pregnant, thinking about getting an abortion, and "riding" a naked man. Disney's no stranger to taking liberties, but that one's pushing it way past the plausibility point. They've Seen Some Shit and still adapted it, but Tam Lin just ain't gonna happen. And Tam (unlike Kai) plays a fairly active role in his own "rescue." Plus the Snow Queen plays around more by having Gerda run into female variants on some classic hero trials - befriending the (female) thief on the road, being tempted with eternal happiness (and forgetting her past) by the Circe-like sorceress. It was already great fodder for a movie, so getting Frozen instead... this blows.
>> No. 217553
>>217551
The pregnancy itself isn't that key to adapting the story. Like I said, The Wee Free Men was essentially Tam Lin, but "Janet" in that one was an eight year old, and obviously not pregnant.
>> No. 217556
A good 2D version does exist, story in tact and all. It's just very old.
>> No. 217557
>>217553
It's not essential to the story, but it's an element people would likely come across if they did any research, and an element that Disney (and every other sane movie studio) wouldn't go near with a ten foot pole. Something vaguely inspired, like Tiffany Aching, I'd put down as "unlikely". Disney making a movie that flat-out references the legend is about as likely as a bus full of nuns going to Hooters.
>> No. 217558
>>217557
And Sleeping Beauty was raped and gave birth while she was sleeping in the original stories. I don't think "You can find out more serious stuff if you look the source material up" is a very strong case.

For that matter, the Little Mermaid was actually about a homosexual man tearing himself up over his love with another man who was getting married to a woman.
>> No. 217559
>>217551
There's an older Russian version of The Snow Queen that was made in 1957 that I'm told is pretty good, if you can get your hands on it.

>>217549
I think that you might be taking for granted the fact that most stories (not just fairy tales) have heroes and villains of your gender. When there are female leads they are usually accompanied by male co-stars to help the heroine along the way, like in Frozen, and men are very rarely damseled. (This even goes for very abstract "damseling," such as a character becoming deathly ill and their spouse going to desperate lengths to save them.) I can count on one hand the amount of stories that follow a woman on a journey to save a man held captive in a similar way to The Snow Queen. There are probably not enough fingers in my city to count the reverse. So yeah, it kind of is unique.
>> No. 217560
>>217556
And in Russian. But yeah, no disrespect intended to Soviet production. That thing's gorgeous even after all this time.

Unless you're talking about the British version from the 90s. That thing was awful. Found it in a pile of £1 DVDs in a WH Smith and it was dragging down the quality of everything else in the bin, including the old racist Buzzy the Crow shorts.
>> No. 217569
A very rough adaptation of Tam Lin would be cool, maybe in a style similar to Secret of Kells to avoid Brave comparisons, but don't kid yourself about the story. It's about a Knight brought low, someone that's normally a badass but who's in a pickle thanks to an accident he had, who needs rescuing and has to make do with the worst of all possible saviors: a girl. In the end she manages to save the day by doing exactly what he told her to do word for word. The climax is basically "can this girl follow simple directions or not?"


The Snow Queen on the other hand is about a boy getting straight-up kidnapped Princess Peach style and everyone in his village going "welp, he's dead" except one girl that embarks on a proper hero's quest to rescue him, prevailing because she's fearless, noble, good at making friends, clever, and because she refuses to give up. It would've made for a great Disney movie, I confess I find the changes bafflingly pointless.
>> No. 217570
>>217559
>There's an older Russian version of The Snow Queen that was made in 1957 that I'm told is pretty good, if you can get your hands on it.
And you'll never guess what else we got out of it:

The Snow Queen (1957) "Gay As …youtube thumb

Also the film's really nice.
>> No. 217571
>>217570
Also the whole thing why not:

Snezhnaya Koroleva [The Snow Q…youtube thumb
No subs but you should still get a feel for the original story. Also, gorgeous animation. Though that's pretty much true for any pre 60's Russian animation.
>> No. 217572
Oh and a subbed version of slightly lesser quality.
(improved)The Snow Queen 1957 …youtube thumb
>> No. 217578
>>217569
Walt would rightly slap them all for some of the changes. To them being sisters and this whole sisterly love thing and the boy now being raised by trolls (the only interesting bit in this which will likely revive zero play in his personality or methods) and with the capstone being that damned Snowman he'd likely fire all their asses. Hell he'd fired them all for sure after the cockup that was Brave. I know his stuff used modded versions of the classics but this is getting to the point of why even fucking bother referencing the classics in the first place when the base story isn't fucking there.
>> No. 217580
>>217578
It makes sense in the cases where there's very little story in the original - Rapunzel's pretty thin - but Frozen is a head-scratcher because it's like Anderson wrote a movie specifically for Disney to make. Just subtract the pit about praying and you're good as gold. There's princesses and princes, a magic mirror, a bitchqueen that makes Maleficent look warm, thieves that manage to be fun, a thief girl that talks to animals, and a pure heart saving the day. Just a few pirates and a dwarf short of being the ultimate Disney plot. Welp, that's modern Disney for you.
>> No. 217594
>>217580
Modern Disney is so far from Walt Classics its sad. Whomever is heading the Mickey Shorts needs to be made head of Animation and not Lasseter since those feel closer to classic Disney than anything else they've made in years.
>> No. 217616
>>217518
Apparently he's playing a major role.

http://www.newsarama.com/19206-nycc-2013-marvel-visits-disney-parks-with-seekers-of-the-weird.html
>> No. 217724
New trailer. I'm kinda distracted by Avatar Roku's narration though.

Frozen - New Trailer (with ELSA)youtube thumb
>> No. 219157
http://choppi.tumblr.com/post/67075118456/olafquest2013

His madness is seeping.
>> No. 219158
http://choppi.tumblr.com/post/67075118456/olafquest2013

His madness is seeping.
>> No. 219170
Maleficent trailer starring An…youtube thumb


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