>peppers and onions for greens, mostly

I'm not really a salad guy. I think calorie counting (maybe) and ensuring that you get a wide variety of solid, mostly natural and unprocessed foods is more important than just angling for greens. I think Slowpoke said in a different thread that Celery actually causes you to burn energy to eat it, which means that it's energy input is actually negative. And this is a problem with a lot of salads; any iceberg lettuce you find in a fast food salad, for example, is practically devoid of useful nutrients. It's like eating rice except not as absorbent.

>>375867
oh wow

>>375869
No really. There are benefits to eating "greens" but certain greens are pretty hollow, nutrient-wise. Focusing on a wider variety of plants like potatoes, cauliflower (also technically broccoli, and brussel sprouts), carrots, yams, tomatoes, peppers, I think you get better nutritional bang for your buck. Salads have never been filling to me, and that's in part because a lot of the "meat" of salads, the lettuce only has so many nutrients we really use. I generally take my veggies as part of the main course or as a side, but I've never felt they were enough as a whole meal (granted I haven't really tried to pursue vegetarianism or whatever it's called now). That the diet is diverse and gets all the nutrients you should require is a bit more important to me than merely reducing my consumption. I work out enough that I don't worry too much if I burn off a bit of excess. The issue a lot of the time is knowing how much food to eat.

You probably can lose weight eating at Subway, for example, because their meats are no worse than supermarket meat and you can pile veggies on them. But I'd stick to 6 inch sandwiches, apples and water.

Sorry is this supposed to be about starving yourself for beauty instead of trying to eat like a reasonable human being?

Since the most common issue with green vegetables is how bitter they are sometimes, I'd consider starting with green beans, spinach, and cauliflower. Mostly though, just try out a bunch of different ones over a few weeks to see what you think. Personally I enjoy stuff like radishes, spinach, and broccoli for salad. And yeah, celery is pretty much just a mass of fibrous stuff to smash through your digestive system. Also: Apple a day is a good idea, in case you weren't already having them often. I think I'll go eat one now... Wait, but then likely no one will eat that banana before it goes bad.

Hmm, I might not be deciding this one quickly.

also 4 your consideration:
Debunking the paleo diet: Chri…

For some clarification, I eat just about every goddamn thing I can get, I just wanted to add some greens because I seemed to be very lacking on that front only, I am in no way trying to lose weight at all.

I've never been able to eat anything green.

I'm not sure why but whenever I eat something like spinach, or even lettuce, I start gagging and possibly vomit. I'm betting on it being psychological but I'm not sure exactly how.

SPINACH DA BES
wilt some down with a bit of bacon fat and salt, add some beaten eggs, scramble like you normally do, mmmm

I also really like cabbage and brussels sprouts when cooked right, which no one in the south does but oh well......
actually i tend to prefer cabbage more raw than cooked in any way

also edamame is technically green and I love the shit outta that but I don't think it actually counts as a green

>>375867
Also looking back into this apparently negative calorie foods have no scientific basis. I guess that's what I get for making a suggestion based on something I read from a few sites years ago without looking into it again!

Mostly frozen broccoli, cauliflower, and green beans. More infrequently I eat sweet potatoes, carrot chips (not baby carrots because those are cores, which lack most nutrients), onions, and tomatoes of just about every kind.

Scrambled eggs for breakfast, packed full of peppers, green onions, and mushrooms!

Lunch would probably be some type of salad where it's more of the tasty stuff than the actual lettuce - tomatoes, alfalfa sprouts, and cucumbers, but beets would be an absolutely delicious addition as well. Ohh, and maybe avocado too..

And for dinner, lightly steamed broccoli where it's soft on the outside but still crunchy on the inside with some home-cooked chicken.

I'm probably missing all sorts of important nutritional stuff, but this stuff's easy for me to make and it's delicious.

I love pretty much all vegetables and like to eat them as much as possible. i like to dip kale and brocoli in hummus as a snack, I add green peppers to a lot of dishes, I saute or steam or wilt wild greens, mustard greens, collards, dandelions, etc. I just like them and think they taste good, it's not a diet trying to be skinny thing

For a long time most greens would give me bad gas. I have bad gas in general, but they made it worse. However, recently I've started on a number of gut-meddling things (Mirilax, fiber, Activa) and one of the nice results is that I have lost most of my lactose intolerance and my ability to handle these have gone up tremendously.

Sadly, my doc recently had me try out some probiotics which seems to have completely undone this and made my gut activities worse. D: I also switched to regular yogurt from Activa, so maybe the cultures in Activa really were useful enough. I'm going to start a different probiotic trial Friday, and next time I need yogurt switch back to Activa (cost be damned), so hopefully I'll go back to better times.

I bought a giant bag of frozen broccoli from Costco and a big bag of black olive as well. I always have string carrots on hand. I try to incorporate veggies into everything as much as possible, preferably more than the rest of the meal, but I don't always do that (usually out of laziness).

>>376039
>I have lost most of my lactose intolerance
That would probably be the yogurt. It contains lactase, which is the enzyme lactose-intolerant peeps lack, so it breaks down and help digest the lactose for you.
If lactose-intolerant dudes eat some yogurt beforehand, they can generally have ice cream and milk and all that delicious stuff afterwards since the yogurt itself helps them digest it.

>>376041

And then some sad bastards have milk protein allergy, where their body goes into varying degrees of fuckup, regardless of lactose.

Being dairy free already cramps my dietary options. Mild grain allergies also limit carbs. If I was to actually follow my diet, I'd be eating nothing but veggies, meat, nuts, and fruit.

Eggs and coffee for breakfast, salad, smoothie, wrap or sandwich for lunch, meat/veggie combo for dinner. Veggie chips, jerky, nuts, or dark chocolate for munchies.

I so miss ice cream and grilled cheese. ;~;

Today I had baked fish with potatoes, zucchini, bell peppers, tomatoes; all sprinkled with lemon. It was very good.

>>375882
there's no such thing as negative calories, but digestion has a minimal calorie consumption that some food may not even cover, and that's what people call "negative" calories.

>>376080
Oh I know that "negative calories" are not actually a thing, I just mean according to Wikipedia the very idea is a load of whooey, and even stuff like celery which is literally just like fibrous water still contains more calories than it would take to digest it, and said that the only "food" that actually fits the whole negative calorie dealio is ice water, which is calorie free, but your body has to burn a tiny amount of energy to bring itself back up to heat after you fill it with frozen liquid.
So yeah.

>which is calorie free, but your body has to burn a tiny amount of energy to bring itself back up to heat after you fill it with frozen liquid.

but this is even more of a mumbo jumbo, you don't generate extra heat to melt ice, your natural metabolism will use its natural heat to begin with.

>>376082
No, but your system will cool slightly from the introduction of the ice water, and the body has to burn extra calories to bring it back to the normal temperature.

There's a reason that American soldiers stationed in cold weather areas have Cold Weather MREs with almost twice the calories of normal MREs. The body has to burn more calories to stay warm than cool before you reach the temperatures beyond hope in either direction.

>>376087
Shit, the military's site about MREs seems to be dead/down. I actually find this kind of stuff interesting, and it helps that I was taught about it (albeit briefly) while training to be a cook in the army (fuck did I hate that job.) MREs tend to have between 2000 and 2500 cal per package, depending on the meal; three of these make a day's "rations".

MRE Cold Weathers (MCWs), on the other hand, are between 4100 and 4500 cal; once again, three of these make a day's ration. Aside from the extra calories, these also differ from MREs in that the meals are more resistant to freezing (so no soup-ish meals) and contain extra beverage powders (essentially Gatorade drink mix to be added to a canteen to help with hydration).

I doubt they have the cappuccino or pudding mixes, though...

>>376089

but cold weather is where you burn the calories, nothing to compare with a glass of cold water. you don't enter a fever everytime you eat some ice cream, because the body will get his temperature back from his normal consumption, it will just evacuate less ot if until the temperature is reached.