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374447 No. 374447
GUYS.

WHY ISN'T THIS REAL.

THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER EVERYTHING WOULD BE.

tl;dr- let's talk about this.
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>> No. 374449
Because money and airline lobbies.
>> No. 374450
It would be awesome, but there are a lot of things that work against such a thing.

Like the government. :(

I don't know that Chicago would be the best location for a mass hub like that. While it has many train lines through it, introducing 220 MPH trains to these lines would be a logistical nightmare (as far as I know, I don't do trains.)

I would think that it would be better and easier to have a massive hub in either south Illinois or Arkansas, where you would have more open space to build from.
>> No. 374452
Because when Obama tried to give money to Florida to build it, Rick fucking Scott said "Fuck you, we don't want a bunch of construction and later railway jobs brought into our country if it means we have to accept it from a Democrat."

And that's reason number #276 why Rick Scott is an asshole.
>> No. 374453
>>374452

This actually happened. I have graphs and everything.

Data show that Rick Scott is an asshole.
>> No. 374454
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Because in bourgeoisie "democracies" like ours it's very difficult to accomplish anything quickly. Let me give you an example:

In 1993, the same year Don't Ask Don't Tell was implemented, polls showed a majority of Americans supported open serve for LGBT soldiers. However it took Congress 18 years to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Basically Congress doesn't give a shit what the American people think or want at all. Instead of concentrating on rebuilding infrastructure, ending the war on Afghanistan, implementing universal healthcare, arresting wallstreet criminals, rasing the minimum wage, or creating jobs. However, US politicians say nah, let's concentrate on things like restricting a women's right to choose or vote suppression laws or privatizing the schools, all of which has been implemented under my governor Tom Corbet.
>> No. 374455
>>374447
>Monterrey
>Monterrey to god damn anywhere.
GDI this is the most perfect thing ever. If I had one wish it would be this made.
>> No. 374457
You'd need ungodly amounts of cash even just to create such a system for the northeastern seaboard. I would imagine the freight lines becoming denser as you get closer to major cities would create planning problems, too. You can only tear up so much existing infrastructure.

Also people with more power than you don't want it to happen.
>> No. 374459
>>374457
This.

Cities are in more or less constant states of repair, certain parts of the roads and public transport as well as other public programs need their due maintenance.

Bullet train systems don't have to cover nearly the distance that these sorts of trains would. Not saying you couldn't, but we'd need to restructure around a bullet train so that it would not be interrupted en transit.

In addition to all these difficulties, in the wake of the recent hurricanes, there may not be the interest to build in potential danger zones. I'm not saying California's going to fall into the ocean. I'm saying if, in the next big one, it does fall into the ocean, that's a lot of Tax dollars flushed into a system we can't use.

I don't know that flying's necessarily cheaper, but it is certainly faster and it does not rely on as much infrastructure.
>> No. 374460
>>374459
Eh.
I dunno, I think in the end its about giving people as many available means as possible. Give them the choice and not go into some sort of "transportation monopoly" so to say.
>> No. 374461
>>374459
I'd rather take a nice train ride that's a bit longer but a lot cheaper than the shitty state that airlines are currently in.
>> No. 374464
>>374461
Then take the trains.

We have an existent rail system. Prices are comparable to airlines. You can hobo it, but that's dangerous, ghetto and illegal (trespassing).

I've never quite understood the notion that travel entailed true freedom. Especially now, in the networked age.
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>>374457
>You'd need ungodly amounts of cash even just to create such a system for the northeastern seaboard.

As opposed to the ungodly amounts of cash we spend on our occupation forces in our colonies in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc.

As opposed to the trillions we spend on new jets, fighters, drones, aircraft carriers, and have military spending more all of the worlds nations combined.

As opposed to the trillions of military aid we give to Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc.

As opposed to the corporate welfare that allows for redistribution of wealth from the poorest of society to the top 5% on wallstreet who are doing great.

We could eliminate all unemployment easily by have trillions spend on massive investments in infrastructure. Instead all we are talking about is cuts, cuts, cuts, and austerity. That's because the oligarchy controls the media and ergo controls the political discussion and demonizes the poor. The media ignoring the real problems. What I want and the American people is turn the American empire of consumption and greed into and empire of love and charity.
>> No. 374470
>>374464
Trains right now take as long if not longer than taking a bus somewhere, which already takes longer than driving. It's absurd that in a nation this size we don't have better means of accessible public transit that aren't airlines. Bullet trains would be phenomenal, for people that are medically unable to fly, and idealistically they'd have less baggage restriction than airplanes do.
>> No. 374473
Because Texas, California, Illinois, and New York and have major issues with construction.
>> No. 374474
>>374470
> idealistically they'd have less baggage restriction than airplanes do.

coming from a country where trains are common and efficient, this doesn't happen, because needs to be filled with peolpe to be profitable not luggage. So don't expect more than the usual personal bag + on or 2 big luggages, just like a plane.
>> No. 374477
Also, I predict that as the cost of all-electric vehicles goes down and we finally get self-driving cars, we'll get more "insta car" rental agencies. Instead of owning a car in a city, you'd pay a monthly fee (comparable to or less than a car payment) to a company for regular use or pay a higher one-time fee if you rarely need one. The cars would be one-size-fits-all, varying only in color, about the size of a VW Bug or a Honda Fit, if not a bit smaller. Because of their size, they could be stored vertically in an automated facility so you don't need a huge parking lot (or even parking garage).

All of this would work great with a bullet train. You arrive in a city, order a car, and take it wherever you wish. Because they're self-driving, you only need to tell them where you want to go and don't have to worry about the city layout. Taxis? What Taxis? No one would need a taxi when they could easily get one of these, for a comparable or better price. In addition, in large cities the companies could have "drop suites", locations scattered around the city that would maintain a dozen or so cars that could be dispatched to a nearby hail for shorter wait time.

>>374454
>Because in bourgeoisie "democracies" like ours it's very difficult to accomplish anything quickly.
And thank goodness for that. DADT wasn't the government moving slowly, it was the government being a stallwart shithead likt it currently is. The government moving "quickly" results in things like two unnecessary wars overseas, the DMCA, and more. It allows the government to act on the immediate swell of emotion of the populace, which is never a good idea. I'd rather have the government put disaster recovery plans in place for as much as possible, and anything else requiring laws or funding should spend more time going through it to make sure it's all fully thought-out.

>>374459
>I'm saying if, in the next big one, it does fall into the ocean, that's a lot of Tax dollars flushed into a system we can't use.
There are a lot of big ifs that would halt society in totality that aren't worth doing so over. Make sure that it won't suck the rest of the train system down with it if it does drop and move on with the plan.

>>374474
While true, I think that trains like this, were they to run quite regularly, would open themselves up to "day trips". In Kansas and really want to see a play in New York? Hop a train, go there, see it, either spend the night or take a red-eye and sleep (far more comfortably than a plane) on the way back. Little-to-no baggage required.
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Would you still have to get a license with a self-driving car?
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>>374477
>And thank goodness for that. DADT wasn't the government moving slowly, it was the government being a stallwart shithead likt it currently is. The government moving "quickly" results in things like two unnecessary wars overseas, the DMCA, and more. It allows the government to act on the immediate swell of emotion of the populace, which is never a good idea. I'd rather have the government put disaster recovery plans in place for as much as possible, and anything else requiring laws or funding should spend more time going through it to make sure it's all fully thought-out.

So you don't think the elected REPRESENTATIVES who were elected to REPRESENT us shouldn't REPRESENT us?

So you are perfectly ok with personhood bills, even though places like Mississippi roundly reject them when voting on them. Personhood bills that would not only ban all abortion, but ban contraception and invetrofertalization. After all since Congress no longer needs to abid by what the people want. Also while we are at. Let's also cut social security, medicare, and medicate.

I never said the government moving quickly is always a good thing however saying the Congress should just outright ignore the view of the American people is insane.
>> No. 374505
>>374477
Yeah, the day trip thing is really my big hook. In Korea right now, I'm constantly just hopping on the bus and going around to different cities cause they're close cheap and easy, I'd love something like that to be more possible in the states.

>>374474
I meant restrictions on what you can carry, less so the quantity. Although that's just hopeless optimism I guess.
>> No. 374508
>>374478
Depends on how self-driving they are. If you have automated taxis with no option to take control, probably not. If the option is there, you might be able to get a cheaper, limited license, something to basically just allow you to pull the car over if shit goes down.

>>374503
I'll reply to you in the politics thread, because this is too off topic.
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