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91749 No. 91749
>>91748

As mentioned above, I am feeling morbidly curious:

Is there anyone that honestly _prefers_ the movie to the series?
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>> No. 98897
>>98893

Review of M Night Shyamalan's …youtube thumb

Goddamn it. Even now I still want viking water benders. Inuit tribe with LOL WHITE PEOPLE? What arbitrary nonsense!
>> No. 98984
http://www.agonybooth.com/video356_Last_Airbender_Movie_Shyamalan.aspx

>Hint: it sucks.
>> No. 98989
>>98897
What would other western cultures translate to in terms of element?

Earthbending European knights?
>> No. 98990
>>98989

Fire Nation architecture would be Gothic (or Baroque maybe) as fuck.
>> No. 98991
>>98990

Adding on to this with some terrible suggestions

Water Tribes: Scandinavia or maybe Russia
Earth Kingdom: Germany (Toph in lederhosen), Britain, Holland?
Fire Nation: Spain, France (Azula with a boat on her head), Portugal, Italy
Air Nomads: Roma or just Christian monks
>> No. 98992
>>98989
>>Westernized Avatar

Earth Kingdom = Byzantine Empire, with a splash of Eastern Europe
** Kyoshi Island = England
Fire Nation = (Western) Roman Empire
** Fire Nation Colonies = France/Gaul
** Sun Warriors = Ancient Egypt
Water Tribe = Vikings
** Foggy Swamp = Irish/Scottish
Air Nomads = Jews/Gypsies

The cast names could all be based on the cartoon's VAs:

Jakobson (Sokka) = Jack DeSena
Mae (Katara) = Mae Whitman ('Mai' would be a better Norse-ish conversion of 'May', but I figured that'd be confusing).
Prophet Zachariah (Avatar Aang) = Zach Tyler Eisen
Jessika von Blumen (Toph Bei Fong) = Jessica Flowers
Shepard Jennie (Suki) of the Blessed Order of St. Hale (Avatar Kyoshi) = Jennie Kwan voices Suki, Jennifer Hale voices Kyoshi
Dante Aléxandros Caelum Ambulator (Zuko)
Imperator Destinatus Grey (Azula)
Gryllus (Mai) -- Mai's VA is named Cricket Leigh, 'Gryllus' is latin for cricket.
Olivia (Ty Lee)

The Blue Ghost (rapier) = The Blue Spirit (dao)
Space Spatha = Space Sword
The Shadow Valleys = The Spirit World (a play on the 'I walk through the valley of the shadow of Death')
>> No. 99041
>>98992
>Fire Nation Colonies-Gaul

There's an Asterix joke or two just waiting to happen here.
>> No. 99043
>>98992

Go on.
>> No. 99047
>>99043
>>Go on.

ZACHARIAH considers himself but a simple friar, but in truth he is the time-lost MESSIAH. Stranded in a war-torn world where he is the last of his Order, Zachariah must depend on the friendship of two siblings of the fearsome SOUTHMEN: JACK, a young warrior, and MAE, a water witch. These three friends will be hounded to the ends of the Earth by the likes of the scarred exile DANTE, foul-tempered ADMIRAL ISAACS, and cunning IMPERATOR DESTINATUS GREY -- fire witches all. But they will not fight these enemies alone, for the trio will be aided by the mysterious gladiator known only as the LADY OF THORNS and the exotic warrior SHEPARD JENNIE of the Blessed Order of St. Hale.

Can Zachariah master the LORD GOD's four blessings before the return of the fiery MORNING STAR at summer's end and save the world?

(And coming in April 2012... The Pilgrimage of Cora.)
>> No. 99048
>>99041
The year is 10BSC. All of the Earth Kingdom is under their control. All? Well, not entirely. One small colony of indomitable Fire Nation citizens still holds out against the natives...
>> No. 99053
>>98989
Back when we were dipping our toes in all kinds of collaborative AUs, I vividly recall a very well-thought-out "western" version of Avatar. Let me see if I can dig it out of the archives...

[some minutes later] Welp, I can't find hide nor hair on plus4chan, but found some repostings on the main 4chan archives (unfortunately, NSFW):
http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=6229583&x=Western+Avatar

Basic gist is that the Fire Nation is based on chivalric France (due to the whole Louis XIV "Sun King" thing), the Earth Kingdom is a collection of Holy Roman Empire-esque Germanic states, the Water Tribe is Scandinavian and the Airbenders are an order of monks protecting the Avatar. It had some damn nice art and a good few stories, but I think came a cropper due to a descent into Zuko/Azula incest tales. For some reason.
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99064
>>99053

Glad to hear some one else remembers that little project.

Hell, I remember suggesting that the Earth Kingdom be inspired by the Holy Roman Empire.
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99066
>>99064
On a side note:

The idea for the setting funnily enough actually came about when people started making incest jokes about Zuko and Azula comparing them to Jaime and Cersie Lannister.

And then people started making comparisons with A Song of Ice and Fire and it sort of spiraled off from there. (ex. Long Feng = Littlefinger, etc.)
>> No. 99071
The movie ended up making a decent profit. They would have been justified in making a sequel if they wanted to, bad as the movie was.

A lot of people complain about the supposed racist casting, and frankly I don't understand why. It would have been next to impossible to find kids who could actually duplicate the looks of the Gaang. Katara and Sokka in particular don't look Inuit at all. IRL they would probably be closer to Ethiopian or Somali. I know M. Night handled this whole thing in the most ass way possible, but folks really need to give this issue a rest.

I think what happened here is that Paramount just never intended to put much effort into the project from the beginning. They probably just figured it would be a dumb kids movie that fans of the show would watch and make a tidy profit with minimal cost. Clearly they weren't going to recreate the feel of the show. Especially since doing that would require a Star Wars special effects budget that was never in the cards. I will give Dev and Noah props for trying to make the best of it. And the guy who played Iroh was pretty good too.

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>> No. 99072
>>99071

>A lot of people complain about the supposed racist casting, and frankly I don't understand why. It would have been next to impossible to find kids who could actually duplicate the looks of the Gaang. Katara and Sokka in particular don't look Inuit at all.
Not this shit again, ffs.
>> No. 99077
>>99071
Banned? lmao wtf?
>> No. 99080
>>99077

It's for two hours, he'll deal. It's long enough to sit in the corner and think about what he did.

>>99071

For when you come back:

Bullshit and fuck you.

I don't think I need to explain why a stylized anime-esque cartoon won't look totally representational, but the movie's profits sucked ass.

54% of it's opening weekend was 3D sales, so it wasn't very popular, just that half the audience paid double. It's profits dropped off very quickly, reviewers trashed it, and the money it made worldwide, given a generous estimate of 50% for the cut taken by the theater chains, would have managed to break even or make a small profit at best.

Besides that, DVD sales sucked almost as bad as the movie. In six weeks, it only made about 20 million dollars in sales. Despicable Me managed to rake in four times that in a single week (as did movies such as Iron Man 2, Inception, and James Cameron's Avatar.) That's the kind of money that says "sequel" not some piddling nonsense like what it managed.
>> No. 99085
>>99077

Sharky has a thing for race-bending.
>> No. 99089
Shark is officially one of my all time favorite mods now. lol
>> No. 99117
>>99080
Just to shore up the financial counter-argument, M Night's TLA certainly wasn't made on the cheap. Despite shooting in Massachusetts and taking the lazy option in every aspect of its production, Shyamalan's inexperience with fantasy blockbusters led to wild cost overruns. Its production budget was $150 million, which it only just managed to scrape back by digging its fingernails into the bottom of the international pot, and even that's from an over-generous estimate of how much the studio made from the box office. Its marketing budget, which was just as humongous, disappeared down a black hole and never saw the light of day again. Advertising costs are usually offset by DVD sales and merchandise, both of which sold like ass, as Sharkman explained.

The movie was dead on arrival, and the "trilogy" was stillborn. Shyamalan has guaranteed that through bad press and his own incompetence.
>> No. 100067
>>99117
Asshole still stands by the movie, saying critics are just haters and he knows what he's doing.
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102308
>I ended up having lunch with the creators Mike and Bryan. They’re like, “Don’t watch the film. You don’t even want to.”

http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/188973-dante-rufio-basco-on-the-asian-pacific-film-fest-and-the-hook-prequel
>> No. 102315
>>102308
>Are you playing the same characters or any new ones?

>I can’t talk about. I can’t even talk about it.

Zuko confirmed for season 2?
>> No. 102316
>>102315
Probably sooner. Dante tweeted about going in to record for Korra last year sometime, I think.
>> No. 102318
>>102316

I think it was in November 2010.
>> No. 102357
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102357
Stupid sexy Iroh. Yue was very pretty. Those costumes were fucking amazing.
That's... About all I can remember.
>> No. 102367
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102367
Ai faund this.
>> No. 102618
>>91818
Seriously, the Rifftrax is worthwhile. If you haven't seen it, and are curious how bad it is, but don't want to be tortured... Rifftrax. It lets you see how bad the movie is while easing you through it with a background of mockery.
>> No. 103594
I liked how Yue's hair turned dark after she died. Nice touch.
Other than that it was boring, unpleasant, and also boring.
>> No. 103772
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103772
Thread necromancy should never be encouraged, but I just found out this film exists and I'm not resting until everyone on the internet has seen the trailer:

" TAI CHI 0 " (太极) OFFICI…youtube thumb

It got me thinking about the prospects for a live-action reboot. Despite everything, the movie did have an extremely good opening weekend ($70million in 5 days, more than it would make in the rest of its run), and the continuing success of Korra demonstrates that there definitely is a market for such an endeavour. Where Paramount went wrong was in hiring a director constitutionally incapable of overseeing a summer blockbuster without fucking up everything up to and including the release date and the budget. So why not hand the keys over to people who know their way around a good martial arts epic and...more importantly...have proven they can do so on a tight schedule and a shoestring?

In the time since Avatar's inception, there's been a goldrush of Hollywood companies trying to break into the Chinese cinema market, which may soon rival the North American market and recently relaxed its import quotas and distribution tariffs. China's also made it easier to co-produce movies with native partners: http://www.screendaily.com/reports/in-focus/chinas-new-global-strategy/5043104.article?blocktitle=In-Focus&contentID=1521

This new strategy is borne out of frustration that Hollywood movies do storming business in China, but Chinese movies are lucky to make it out of the California circuit (the problem is partly structural, since it's hard to come up with a compelling IP while a lardass in a red-star tie is mouth-breathing over your shoulder yodelling "I DON'T LIKE TIME TRAVEL, IT SCARES ME"). Prospects have improved since the Chinese Bona Film Group bought AMC, the second-largest cinema chain in the US, but they still need a property that can break out of the foreign-film bubble and make a mark on the American market.

Avatar is a property that seems custom-designed for such a challenge. Put it in the hands of the Detective Dee bunch and we'd have a corking franchise that could put bums on seats both sides of the Pacific.

Just thinking aloud here, but who else thinks it's a workable strategy?
>> No. 103894
>>103772

We'll know if somebody tries...though oh my god that trailer is exactly what The Last Airbender should have been. If anything, it's better as a Korra movie, but please don't let them make a Korra movie.
>> No. 103926
>>103772
What is this? Is this a foreign film?
I already informed what little browse Korra-chan about this.
>> No. 103968
>>103772
Avatar isn't popular overseas so they have no reason to jump on board this or make a movie based on it.
>> No. 104007
The thing that always depresses me the most about this movie is that M. Night said he did it for his daughter, who was a big fan.

I mean... fuck. Put yourself in her shoes. Not only did daddy butcher a show you liked, but he tanked his entire career in the process, and pissed a fortune down the drain right on front of your eyes.

Fucking hell.
>> No. 104010
>>104007
"I'm still living in a mansion and daddy still has millions and millions; I'll live.

And go back to watching Johnny Test."
>> No. 104016
>>104010
>Going from watching Avatar to having to look forward to Johnny Test

Wow, now I feel even worse for the poor kid!
>> No. 104067
>>103926
>Trailer entirely in Mandarin
>"Is this a foreign film?"
Oh you.

Yeah, Avatar doesn't have much presence outside the US. But it does have presence inside the US, which might make it an attractive IP for a Chinese studio seeking crossover appeal, if Paramount's willing to dip their toes in such a partnership.

Like I said, throwing ideas at a dartboard here.
>> No. 104074
>>103772

"Taichi" Movie Trailer (HD) "太極"预告片youtube thumb

HD Version of the trailer.
>> No. 104143
>>104010
>"I'm still living in a mansion and daddy still has millions and millions; I'll live. "

Being rich is great and all (seriously, I highly recommend it), but it still kind of blows that she's going to be growing up knowing that Daddy for all intents and purposes nuked his career (he might still get work, but nothing on a large scale) making a movie out of a cartoon she loved.

Awkward dinner table silence is awkward.
>> No. 104153
>>104143
She probably grew out of liking the show since it's been over for years and she's older now.

Also money.
>> No. 104154
>>104143
>>104153

I have a feeling that, even if she's a fan, Korra gets watched at a friends house and she doesn't tell daddy.
>> No. 104168
>>104153
Even if she somehow grew out of the cartoon (that's a thing people can do?) it's still gotta be awkward.

Her dad did something supposedly for her, $280 Million was spent on it, it was released globally, it got a single digit score on Rotten Tomatoes, and it closed the book on him as a major director.

Ouch.
>> No. 112403
>>104143
>>104168

Not to mention one of the reasons she liked Avatar in the first place was because she identified with Katara, partly because they both have dark skin. So naturally, Daddy figured that Nicola Peltz was perfect for the role.

Whoops.
>> No. 116733
Okay, I have to ask, who's the asshole who keeps ghost-bumping this thread?
>> No. 116734
From what I've seen, it's a spambot which just posts a URL.
Thread gets bumped and the post gets deleted.
>> No. 116735
>>116734
>>116733
There has been a pharma spambot that has been plaguing all the boards, which also seems to have teamed up with the nasty CP spambot as well.
>> No. 116736
>>116735
I see! Which leads me to wonder why it keeps necroing this thread specifically.

Maybe an algorithm in their code? "LARGE BOX OFFICE ACQUIRED - MINIMAL DISCERNMENT DETECTED - COMMENCE SCAMMING"? Goodness knows how many Transformers movie threads get targeted by these things.
>> No. 116794
>>116736
Well, there's a thread on /pkmn/ that had to be locked because it was constantly targeted by a spambot. So that isn't really surprising.
>> No. 116915
Sharky, I think it's time to lock this thread
>> No. 116944
I'm not typically in the practice of locking threads, but Murph is right.

Luckily for us all, the movie stopped being relevant soon after it's release and we can rest easy that it's good and dead, so locking it to stop a spambot is small potatoes.
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